A new episode of The Joe Budden Podcast dropped on Wednesday (December 19) and addressed one of the hottest topics of the week: Tory Lanez vs. Royce Da 5’9. Budden, along with co-hosts Rory and Mal, examined the brewing feud and took issue with some of Tory’s behavior in the recent Twitter exchange.
“Once you start adding in the ‘suck my dick,’ I think we’re past rap music at this point,” Rory said. “Suck my dick, that’s fighting words.”
Budden, who was running side-by-side with Royce during their Slaughterhouse days, tried to provide some perspective on his old collaborator’s mindset. According to Budden, Nickel Nine wasn’t trying to get into a viral war of words.
“I know Royce well enough to kinda know his thinking here,” he explained. “And his thinking is gonna be, ‘No nigga, I’m not talking rapping. I’m not talking fighting. I wasn’t talking to you at all. I’m not here for these little kid games.'”
As the discussion continued, the hosts said there was a problem with Tory being so defensive about Royce’s opinion on his battle with Joyner Lucas. But in Budden’s mind, this was indicative of a larger issue in this era.
“Today, I would argue that it’s kinda not OK to have your own opinion, now more so than ever before,” he stated. “Today is when your opinion will get you loss of your job, loss of your friends, loss of your reputation. Actually, everything that I see these kids doing now is to hide whatever the fuck their real opinion is. You don’t know what’s going on.”
Throughout the conversation, Mal contended that Tory wouldn’t have been so antagonistic with other older rappers. He cited names such as Gucci Mane and Rick Ross as examples of people who wouldn’t have been told “suck my dick.” Budden tried to play devil’s advocate and argue that Tory’s been willing to instigate with anyone.
“Tory has had his fair share of R&B fights,” Budden said. “He’s fought some fans … Just a few weeks ago, he was in a small back-and-forth with Game where I thought that he said some shit that was like, ‘Alright, I wouldn’t have said that.’ So, what I’m saying is it might not be whatchu saying.”
But, Budden did agree with Mal about Tory’s lack of knowledge in this specific situation.
“He clearly does not know Royce very well,” he remarked.
Yet in Budden’s mind, Tory actions were less about specifically disrespecting Royce and more about attempting to recapture the attention garned from his battle with Joyner.
“I see Tory and Jacquees kinda attempting to do the same thing,” the rapper-turned-podcaster said. “Tory ain’t had as much engagement going with him as he had with his Joyner exchange, and he kinda just bounced into that.
“I think that once he saw the effects from it — first of all, that was an audience that you neglected. But now that you see that audience is alive and thriving and you see the amount of engagement that you was able to get going, now you’re playing into that. You then came at Push. So, I see what he’s doing. He came at Push and then he was in a club in Toronto and came at any American rapper. He was feeling himself.”
Check out The Joe Budden Podcast’s “The Physical” episode below. The Tory/Royce analysis begins about 11 minutes into the latest installment of the show.
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Oh. So now do a review about what a podcast said about a Hip hop situation?
Tory Lanes has obviously never seen Royce box with Lazarus
..Obviously Royce has never seen tory lanes porn career…
Dude you are the first person to mention this ive seen. Never understood why he chose that name
honestly Joe skirted any real opinions on the topic and coasted Mal and Rory to voice opinions instead. love the podcast but Joe has been doing this a lot since his recent deals.
But when he doesn’t do that everyone calls him a narcissist. He’s good at asking questions, and is very opinionated, but doing both can be hard at times.
Here we go… this talentless hack is trying to chime in to be relevant. Do the world a favor Hoe Studden, STFU
You do know Joe and Royce were in Slaughterhouse together. I don’t see anything wrong about him giving his take on it, especially when it comes to how Royce may handle this situation.
Do you listen to rap and I don’t mean just want is played on the radio? If so and your not just a sheep that likes and listens what old wealthy white men who control the radio waves and sell the time slots (how radio works the same way commercials on TV and many other things in corporate America work …. –> consumerism) well then you would know Joe Budden has talent and is a true emcee and lyricist even if you aren’t a fan of his style or sound. Second entertainment is apart of talent and women eat up Love & Hip Hop and hip hop fans underground and mainstream are entertained from his talent enough for his podcast to get signed to Spotify and for him to grt a deal signed with Diddy to create a show together State of the Culture. I’m not even a big Budden fan just hate fake ppl and or ignorance.
Bruh Joe Budden gets millions of viewers a week- without having to rely on guests unlike all other big hip hop radio stations & podcasts. He doesn’t need to do anything to try and be “relevant”. The exact opposite if anything. These days rappers and other hiphop personalities are using Joe’s name for clicks.
& I ain’t even a fan of his music. You’re just ignorant.
Tory is on an ego trip, plain and simple. No respect like the whack ass Migo with Layzie Bone and the OG’s in general. Whory-Tory is no different. Young cat with some clout gets big headed and chooses to cross boundaries with one of the greatest on the mic. Opinions are like assholes, cuz everybody’s got one (quote from Ras), but opinions have accountability as well (aka, Budden with Eminem).
Tory needs to sit his The Children’s Place shopping ass down and drink some Canada Dry. STFU, Tory. You wouldn’t be mouthing off walking in the streets of Detroit or anywhere else in America looking like a fuccin midget.
This is what this fuck social media era has done. Back in the day, these two wouldn’t even cross paths with each other. It’s like diluting the genre because the R&B lane dudes are set in the same big pot with dudes that can hardcore spit. I don’t need that shit in my life. Like what does it accomplish. Lanez should be beefing with other wack people who made it like Cardi B or some shit.
Tory Lanez is too arrogant. he’s clearly talented an should let his music speak for itself
Who the crap is Tory Lanes..???
Wow you are out of touch