Joe Budden is still not impressed by Drake’s bars and says that the “Hotline Bling” rapper and other mainstream artists like him are more concerned with their image than their music.
“I feel like a lot of these, him, Nicki [Minaj], a lot of them, Meek [Mill], they all piece of shits,” he says on The Brilliant Idiots podcast. “They just hide behind their celebrity.”
The Slaughterhouse rapper has dissed all three on his podcast. Most recently, he questioned Drizzy’s VIEWS album, saying he sounds “uninspired.”
Budden has released three diss tracks toward Drake. His latest attack, “Afraid,” came after the Toronto rapper finally responded on wax with a verse on French Montana’s “No Shopping.” (French later said that the verse wasn’t intended for Budden, although that hasn’t really changed the narrative much).
Budden says he knew Drake’s disses were coming long before the full release of “No Shopping” over the weekend. Like most people, he was tipped off to the bars when a clip surfaced of Drake rapping “pump, pump it up” — the same lyrics of a 2003 song by the Slaughterhouse rapper.
“Maybe I’m about to get some pub money,” Budden joked. “They flip songs all the time, French. Maybe they’ll flip ‘Pump It Up’ and that’s it.”
Well, Budden says because the industry is so small, word got around about the content of the full song.
“I’m hurt. I am hurt,” he says of his initial response to the full “No Shopping” verse. “I’m appalled that that nigga who know my pen game. He know I don’t play. He know I don’t care about none of that fame, success, attention, none of that, he know what I do, and you want to use your celebrity to do that to me? We smoked hookah together. How could you do that?”
Clocking in at more than six minutes, Budden’s “Making A Murderer” is packed with jabs hitting on all aspect’s of Drake’s career.
“I’m aware of the length, people told me to cut it down,” he says. “I was only ever concerned with how he was affected, him. I don’t care about what the public thought. I don’t care about, when I put those hundred-something bars down. It’s bars in there, it’s only for him. It’s so much cold you can’t even understand what’s going on there. I would like to think if I’m guessing, it gave him some pause.”
He explains the timeline of how the song was created and how he was playing a game of cat and mouse for its release.
“So that French record, they did that clip in May, we immediately went to the studio and spent the night there,” he says. “We thought [Drake’s full diss] was coming. Now I’m trying to guess. Alright, they had the Bad Boy shit at Barclays. Then Memorial Day Weekend, Drake was having a party. All that shit, it never came. I said, ‘Woah,’ then the ‘4 p.m.’ shit, I think Drake was dissing Puff, then I’m like, ‘Wait,’ I’m real confused now.”
Even though Drake’s “4 p.m. in Calabasas” wasn’t direct shots at Budden, he says he could read past the subliminals. He explains that the artform of rap is a language that the public doesn’t fully understand. That knowledge also helps explain his plan of attack.
“He does that often to people,” he says. “I’m such a big fan I just know and I’m a rapper so I know when it’s happening. You’re not going to do that to me because when you do that and because I’m so insignificant in comparison to him, nobody will ever know. So it’s really just me knowing. It was my job to call it all out. I knew the media would say I’m crazy. I have to call it out because later on, y’all will get it. It’s not my fault that the business side of things is making him take so long with that record. Me, I’ve never really had the best business. I’m on your ass. So I put that out, smoke screen a hundred bars, clear signal to the rappers. Ok, here we go again. Here’s another one. Four days, five days later. I’m still here, nigga. I’m not leaving this one. Oh, you left it alone? I’m back again. I’m gonna be on his ass and he won’t do it again. You won’t hear another word out that boy’s mouth about Joe.”
Meek Mill and others have questioned why the New York rapper keeps persevering at the battle, saying that the 35-year-old is irrelevant — a claim that he vehemently denies.
“It ain’t ’cause I’m irrelevant,” he says. “Y’all can paint that picture. Y’all can keep painting that fucking picture.”
When Drake can’t will the rap battle, he switches to a popularity contest. And if it’s someone equally popular, (Jay-Z) they turn it to an age thing. You will never beat Drake because his fans change the rules. I miss the days when I was by fans on merit, not by hurt feelings and feeling attached to an artist #Facts
When fans judged on merit *
I’m a big Drake fan but that’s so real. Super true
Joe said himself that Drake makes better songs than him and that Drake hurt his feelings lol
Otherwise I agree, although you could say the same about Jay when he ignored 50, Cool J, and many others that he didn’t feel worthy of a full on response, maybe a line here and there with no names on the songs. He learned to duck opponents after the Nas thing turned nasty lol
Yup! Takeover was the secret weapon. We saw what it did to Prodigy. Jay didn’t anticipate Nas bouncing back the way he did. I mean, if your own team can say Nas threw him off (Dame), which imo shouldn’t have been shared, there’s no way you’re going in on rappers with a full fledge diss anymore, not when you have an empire you built. Just subliminals and let the fans create a fake ring and the stans decide the winner.
First, Jay Z didn’t care what the backlash would be. Although he had to end up caring. I would have been upset how unfair it got. He thought and still thinks he is better. Yes the public did pick Nas but it wasn’t over Takeover. The Hot 97 radio station, did what most fuck shit radio stations did. Which was cheat and then say “we are going to forget about Takeover and make this a Ether vs Super Ugly contest.” That shit was mad shady cause they knew Jay killed him on Takeover. With this Drake shit. I can’t see the argument in this situation because Drake, like Joe was explaining is an idea. A concept manufactured by the record label, which in turn pays off publicist, radio stations and blogs to enhance his celebrity. He is not a real hiphop artist like Jay, not at all!!! You can’t be signed to multiple people and be a boss. You can’t be the greatest and need help with your lyrics. He uses ghostwriters and reference tracks to help him sound like he is from different parts of the United States. That shit is crazy weird to me because when i try and listen to him. I can’t, it just sounds so fake to me.
Here, here. I hear you all the way. But quite honestly, as Ether was Nas’ response, Jay failed by doing Super Ugly which we know was a desperation move. When you murk yourself, or misfire, you are accountable for that. Ether was a great response. If Jay played the field well, and didn’t get his emotions involved, he would’ve claimed victor. Early Jay was reckless. He knows better now. A lot of artists should learn from this. Drake is probably being instructed to keep his Chippettes in line and not be reckless. History repeats itself. The corporations, the machine are profiting off dude. His skin color, everything. Burdens can destroy that. But lucky for “Drizzy” he has his Chippettes to poorly dictate how great he is. Real heads know the culture was jacked from us.
For real bro, hip hop/rap aint nothing but a popularity contest. Bars used to mean something but now it’s all about the chorus and fire beat
Joe budden is so desperate for attention by drake. Joe budden is trying everything in his power to have drake make him relevent for a weak. That aint going to happen cause Joe Budden is a cockroach to drake. He is the definition of irrelevant. Once Joe Budden sells under 2k albums with his new album he can go back to doing reality TV shows and being irrelevant. Then all you fake ass Joe Budden fans who claim you are fans of him simply because you all are a bunch of drake haters can move on to the next rapper that comes at drake. Drake runs this rap shit and all you old heads can stick to listening to your outdated 90s music while the rest of the world passes you stuck in the past losers by.
My…just stfu for one day. You’re that one annoying kid at an adult party that thinks they’re funny until you get bitch slapped.
Drake runs pop, budden is real rap. Drake and more than half these artists are pop no real emotion, just paid writers to keep them at the top of the billboards. Not gonna lie towards the end of the verse drake was goin in against joe but Joe still got more bars over Drake
It’s sad that when a Drake fan hears someone saying “yo, Buddens killed that diss track”, the person who said it is a dick rider. Guys, stop being so biased. Give credit where it’s due. I don’t really fuxk with Aubrey in his current state, but am objective enough to say “back 2 back” killed meek. I don’t own any of Buddens records, but know he has a serious pen game. “Wake” and “Afraid” were great diss tracks. Hands down. Call Joe irrelevant or whatever, but bars are bars. Give the man credit.
This guy need to learn to stfu. He dik ride them more than their haters.
Jay never dodges he’s the KING of subliminals and will constantly throw lines at rappers. From Dipset, Wayne, Budden, 50, Nas & Game. Drake has adopted Jay’s subliminal warfare tactics but whenever directly addressed Hov came with bars!!! I’m a Drake fan but not a Stan. Im a Budden fan from way back in the Clue days and I highly anticipated his debut album and I liked it. I think Mood Musik 2 is classic and Joey has great songs like 3 Sides of a story and Who. Now I love Comeback season Drake up to So Far Gone. Take Care I think is his best album but Drake has stopped improving and like Budden(another Drake fan) we just want Drake to stop resting on his laurels and keep pushing the genre and get back to bars!! Drake knows Budden’s pen game and it’s best to leave that man alone but Budden isn’t gonna stand for the subliminals.
bro you a wordy bitch lol. aint nobody gonna read your wall of shit text lol
Only reason Jay Z is subliminal and doesn’t go hard at anyone is the last time he did that to someone he ended up on Hot 97 crying. When Nas Ethered him he had to go after Nas kid and baby mama and his HOV’s mom made him apologize on the radio to Nas. Do people forget this stuff?
HHDX stop misreporting with the click bait. Joe Budden isn’t impressed with Drake’s “comeback.” Anyone following this beef knows No Shopping was recorded BEFORE Joe Budden’s diss tracks. Dummies.
Bottom line Joe can rap yes is he reaching bet your ass he is … Can he or will he ever be on the 6 God level never never. Artists like Drake come around once a century period! If he wanted to shut Budden up with a diss record he would and shit who knows he might. Budden never had so much publicity since that pump pump pump it up song.
You are a guess in hiphop. Relax and ask your mom for warm milk and go to bed. You my friend have no idea what your talking about.
Once in a century, he’s a radio artist nothing special. There’s dozen’s of them
fake drake is this generations milli vanilli, vanilla ice, mc hammer. there is nothing authentic about someone who has other people write his songs, rips off numerous artists for their verses, beats, concepts and tries to pass them off as his own. ducks and dodges challenges from REAL MC’S. overall bitch made behavior. #DRAKEISFAKEDRAKEISWACK #THE 6FRAUD WITH VIEWS FROM A BITCH
What the fuck is 6god? Man that shit sounds weak az fuckk
JOE BUDDENS BEST RAPPER EVER!
Once a century mate before Drake there was Rule yeah Ja he played the radio better than Aubrey
Drake is an ok rapper. But top 5?? No chance….. what has he really done… make a few decent albums and singles? Rhianna does that year in, year out.
His influence is candy rap without any real message. Drake makes the top 15 of all time, if that.
Joe budden New York Rapper????? He’s from Jersey, Victoria you gotta get the basics facts right when covering material.
code not cold
Joe buddeln sounds like the name of a football player that just lost half his money cause of the divorce and she got him paying childsupport for 18yrs, in addition the money he got left can’t support his lavish lifestyle.