On the heels of Eminem’s Machine Gun Kelly diss track “Killshot,” the fourth and final installment of The Kamikaze Interview arrived on Friday (September 14). Once again, Eminem and Sway Calloway chopped it up about several subjects, including a line on Kamikaze from the song “Lucky You” that many assumed was a subliminal shot aimed at Drake.

“I got a couple of mansions,” he spits. “Still I don’t have any manners/You got a couple of ghost writers/But to these kids it don’t actually matter/They’re askin’ me, what the fuck happened to hip-hop?/I said, I don’t have any answers.”

Em told Sway that’s simply not true.

“Drake is always going to be in my good graces because he did something for one of my daughters that I will never forget and he will always be in my graces for that,” he explains. “And I like Drake. What I’m telling you with these lines is I don’t know what’s real and what’s not. You hear shit about this rapper, that rapper — whatever.

“He [Drake] makes great music. On this Kamikaze album, I feel like I was pretty direct about who I was taking shots at and who I wasn’t. I wouldn’t send subliminals to Drake. There’s no reason to do that.”

Shady then went on to explain why he’d rather quit rapping before using a ghostwriter.

“I’m telling you that I don’t do it,” he says. “I never have and never will. If I ever need a ghostwriter, I just need to fuckin’ put the mic down. That’s my personal belief. As far as anybody out here that use ghostwriters, that’s fine. If that’s what you do, that’s fine.

“Hip Hop was the most important thing that empowered me. I have a line where I say, ‘It made me feel tough when I wasn’t.’ When I was a scrawny little kid, growing up on 8 Mile, walking up the fuckin’ block, put headphones on and it made me feel powerful. It was like my dad, Hip Hop. The excitement is being able to come up with the shit.”

Em later added, “I have never, not even a line. I wouldn’t be able to have fun with it if I couldn’t write it.”

The topic turned to ghostwriting again. Em talked about the N.W.A cut “8 Ball” and the moment he heard Eazy-E rap about Ice Cube writing his lyrics.

“Hip Hop, since it’s beginning, I was always under the impression that every rapper wrote their rhymes,” he says. “Who’s going to be able to say the best shit? Who’s the cleverist and the wittiest?

“Then years later, fast forward, you hear Eazy-E saying ‘Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say.’ I remember being a kid and hearing the line and I just didn’t really care. It didn’t affect the way I felt about Eazy-E or the way I felt about N.W.A.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Em insisted JAY-Z or Kendrick Lamar should have won a Grammy last year, said the late Proof was the “glue” of D12 and explained why music is his therapy.

Watch the full episode up top.