After releasing Hell The Sequel, his collaborative LP with Eminem under the name Bad Meets Evil, Royce Da 5’9 started noticing that lyrics were making a comeback in Hip Hop. Speaking with Thisis50.com, Nickel Nine explained that artists like J. Cole, Drake and Nicki Minaj are helping to bring back lyricism and changing the culture’s landscape.
“I think with Hell The Sequel, Watch the Throne, Drake, Nicki, Wayne, they whole camp, J. Cole, they whole camp… These guys that are lyricists are making it for lyricists to be cool again. I do think there was a time in Hip Hop where it wasn’t cool to be lyrical. Even Waka Flocka made a comment, he said, ‘I ain’t got no lyrics. Lyrics don’t make me money,'” he said. “I think that’s kind of changing a little bit now with the main guys being lyricists. The young guys is coming up. They’re killers.”
Watch the full interview below, where he also speaks on how he considers Eminem the best lyricist alive, what he would be doing if he wasn’t rapping and more.
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yep. But both Drake and Cole are some soft nigg@s making songs for them CHicks……………
J. Cole has like 3 songs for chicks, the rest of his catalogue is not
lol im guessing he did kill somebody if he didnt respond
If a top notch lyricist is praising nicki minaj and drake as premier artists in today’s hiphop, then this is a sad day. SMH i expected more from Royce… nigga leaves me disappointed
Man , royce is selling out his own believes because he’s rappin on a comerical level , its all about the money , money shows people’s real face , fuck royce , if drake’s lyrical nicki minaj is the king of hip hop haha
LOL U MAD?
Drake is a very good lyricist.. Do you even listen to hip-hop?
Jason, first of all if you think that’s lyricism, no i’m not mad, i’m sad for u.
hahaha for real! using royce’s logic, gucci mane is the new Nas!!!!
Drake is not hip hop , he’s plain rap , give me one example how he’s a lyricist ? get the fuck outta here , you the same guy who thinks wayne raps hard
Grafh f. Joe Budden
“It’s Just Music”
This niggas a killer.
This niggas a killer…
Drake, Nicki Minaj??? Bringing lyricism Back???? Royce called that lyricism??? Hip hop is doomed
LOL U MAD?
Drake is a very good lyricist. Do you even listen to hip-hop?
Jason u call nicky minaj hiphop??haha wow man if thats what u call hiphop then idk what to tell u lol
jason u ever hear of Jay Electronica? LOL
jason you FAILED
You may hate Drakes glossy look and pretty boy swag but he is a true lyricist, this kid came up on some slum village tribe shit,. he is nice,. when he hit you with that double dutch sing song flow , its crazy,. Lil wayne is far from lyrical.Dude talks about nothing,./he on som A.D.D shit switching topics every 2 seconds, thats trash
It’s interesting that everybody’s favorite rappers and producers are cosigning new cats like Drake and saying their bringing lyricism back, but a large amount of their fans can’t see the same thing. I remember how everybody jumped on Preem for saying the same thing. Even Nas said the same shit if I remember correctly. I just think it’s interesting. You people who hate on this obviously don’t remember the dark ages of hip hop in the early to mid 2000s when new cats in the industry didn’t give a damn about lyricism. You might not like Drake or Nicki but you gotta admit that they at least put in an effort to be lyrical with their craft, no matter how much you think they might fail. They might not be the best, but at least they are gonna influence the younger generations to bring more lyricism to their craft. You can already see the positive effects of this shit. Mainstream Hip-Hop can only get better.
BTW, this comment is coming from someone who avidly listens to acts like Little Brother, Jay Elec, Kendrick, Common, Mos, Rakim, Nas (pre-stillmatic), Pac, Talib, Pharoahe, BIG, Outkast, Kenn Starr (google that) etc. So please don’t tell me I don’t know shit about “Real Hip Hop”, whatever that bullshit term means.
Your opinion burns when you believe that drake is good lyricist. Im tried of marketing schemes like this claiming to have drake as good. he just aint. Drake is to hip hop as Carlos Mencia is to comedy.
Light skinned cats usually go the extra step to be down but all kidding aside I love your perspective, it’s refreshing and very unbias. I disagree with Nicki taking pride in her craft she has a 7/10 but no content, just thrown together things and punchline that serve the sole purpose of shocking the listener (they just aren’t clever)
Drake is actually a very good songwriter, I like his style. Shad, who’s from Canada, too, is better though. Nice that you mentioned Kenn Star, loved his debut. Very refreshing. Reks, Vakill, Skyzoo, Joe Budden, Elzhi, OneBeLo and Crooked I are some of the best lyricists out there.
You know, I don’t really care if Nas or Preem think Drake is lyrical, because when I compare Drake to shit i listen to, like Outkast for example, there is no comparison.
Its not that I’m hating on Drake trying to be “lyrical” but he thinks he’s nice when clearly there’s no substance to his raps.
He uses punchlines that don’t connect to eachother in any form and aren’t clever. “I’m in the dominican, Big Papi Ortiz”….that ain’t creative. He’s in the dominican and Ortiz is dominican…how is that interesting at all? I just think the game’s gone soft. Not that i think music today sucks, but rappers are all looking for a way to get more publicity/fans, so if co-signs with Drake and Wayne work to reach out to more fans, then Royce is gonna say this shit.
Hip Hop is still in the Dark Ages son, in the early to mid 2000’s there was more variety in the mainstream than there is now. Atleast back then you had guys like Nas, Jay-z, Luda, Eminem, Game, T.I. etc in the mainstream dropping hot shit. There was always that balance of lyrical content and pop shit but now it’s mostly pop shit. We still in The Dark Ages!
Game & T.I. have always been pop garbage.
The Game doesn’t say anything but has a good ear for beats
first of…lyrics never went ANYWHERE,all the lyrics are coming from the underground cats who keep it 100 like copywrite,co$$,apathy,vinne paz,immortal technique,junclassic,kev brown,la coka nostra,evidence…i could go on for hours!! dont get me wrong ima royce fan but drake? and j.cole? is some soft shit! fuck outta here wit dat bullshit NOT HATING JUST SAYING peace!! long live hip hop
royce goin commercial on us .. fake ass nigga is not keepin it real since he made mad funny….. FAGET he used to be good back in 04 then he fell off u suck
u mad bro? and he didnt talk about drake he only talked about jcole
Drizzy mad nice on the mic,. and Cole aint ever spit nuttin wack…so yeah lyrics are comign back to the mainstream…thats what he meant
i dont give a fuck what royce says I’m a listener not a fanatic of his. (big difference) i use my ears and intellect to detect good music and NOT the opinions of those who have kissed fame.
There some major damage to your ears and intelligence if you think drake and nicki are good. I could write a whole literally write an entire literary analysis on a BIG L song. I cant do that on a half sang drake song.
he never said anything about niki stop putting words into peoples mouth
is not nicki in the article??? i did read it and it clearly says nicki…idiot ass
I cosign with Cole, but Drake? Haha get real Royce. Hip Hop never left.
Oh so royce says drake is good so now i have to listen to drake.
Thank the fucking lord I have my own opinion.
LIL’ WAYNE ABOUT TO BE EXPOSED FOR THE WACK LYRICIST HE IS ON THE CARTER 4, DUDE CAN’T SAY ANYTHING WORTHWHILE
***nevermind my spelling errors. My phone is on the auto correct shit. Point is drake, nicky, the whole click is garbage!!!
1.JAY-Z
2.BIGGIE
3.NAS
4.EMINEM
5.TALIB KWELI
6.PHAROAH MONCH
7.COMMON
8.KANYE WEST
9.OUTKAST
10.J.COLE/DRAKE
side note – 2Pac aint a lyricist. hes a rapper,.and he wasn’t lyrical.
You put Kanye West above Drake in lyrical skills?? OK man whatever.
someone is a mainstream bitch!!!
Ever heard of Mos Def? GZA? Do the names Common or Canibus ring any bells?
Elzhi? AZ? Rakim? O.C.? That list is dog eared. Outkast is a group dumbass.
you dont know the fuckin first thing about lyricism fool, Tupac is one of the greatest lyricists to ever live he defines what a lyricist is, Kanye doesnt even write his own fuckin rhymes clown
bein a lyricist is about being able to write on any subject matter, using multiple rhyme schemes, metaphors and wordplay Pac did all of that, its also about being able to alter and adapt your vernacular to suit different audiences in order to get your message across Pac did that better than any other rap thats ever lived, he knew when to dumb his language down to ensure his message reached the most people possible
name a single drake track lyrically fuckin with any of Pac metaphorical songs like “Me and My Girlfriend” or a story track on the level of “Brenda got a Baby”
Pac proved himself as a lyricist able to write in any style, Battle tracks, Club tracks, chick tracks, storytelling tracks, street tracks, political tracks, introspective tracks, brag tracks, loungin tracks, radio friendly tracks the list goes on
PLUS HE COULD FREESTYLE
Shyt Posdnous from de la soul shoiuld make everybody list, who raps in 3 different decades at a high quality too
Psssssssshhhhh. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Ok i dare any one of you to name a good drake lyric. Think long and hard until you admit you aint got shit!!
Royce is funny as fuck with that shit!
Last name ever, first name greatest
Like a sprained ankle boy, I ain’t nothin to play wit
Started off local but thanks to all the haters
I know G-4 pilots on a first name basis
Any city faded off the brown, +Nino+
She insist she got more class, we know
Swimmin in the money, come and find me, +Nemo+
If I was at the club you know I ball, chemo
Dropped the mixtape, that shit sounded like a album
Who’d a thought a country wide tour be the outcome
Labels want my name beside a X like +Malcolm+
Everybody gotta deal, I did it without one
Yeah, nigga I’m about my business
Killin all these rappers, you would swear I had a hitlist
Everyone who doubted me is askin for forgiveness
If you ain’t been a part of it, at least you got to witness
Bitches
LMAO @ quotable. You a clown for that shit.
that was gay. What’s next wiz khalifa is good???
I heard better lyrics at recess from drunk special ed 3 graders!!1
And I ain’t tryna get to know nobody but you
Do me a favor tell me what’s happenin’
I am drinkin’ XO D is sippin’ some Appleton
Usually the things I desire I always apprehend
Back again return of the mack again
‘Deceiving’ was cool I’ll never record the track again
Even though my ex is fuckin’ one of my rapper friends
I don’t wanna seem like I am always attacking them verbally
You can stop frontin’ I know you heard of me
Babygirl ya, ya, ya heard of me
Little me
Pay attention I guarantee you it’ll be
One of the best, decisions you’ve made
I’m sonnin’/sunnin’ them all I live in the shade
Previously mischievous behaviour was the leader of me
You could say I was fresh to some conceited degree
Steppin’ out the house tryna figure out where cameras from Cheaters would be
But now I need a culprit
I am talkin Long Sands Beach, condo adult shit
I am talkin’ all day shoppin’ sprees in the mall with
Friends that I ball with
Hear me Trey’s girl go and get you some Fall shit
Sweetie I am a track’s demise
I will kill this song ’til it actually dies
With a military jacket and some packed supplies
I won’t say I’m the best ’til the stats arrive
And all these a-list parties you fraternize
Where you can’t wear hats inside it’s only slacks and ties
Bu you don’t never act surprised
You just hold it down for your boy ’til the plaques arrive
And girl, I used to blow a couple thousand at the shake joint
Now it cost a couple thousand for a Drake joint
I gave up a lot to make a progress
I give it to you, and you take it the best
I’on think they really ready for my wardrobe
I show up rite before the store clothes
And blow the feed from my last 4 shows
I do 1 song & use 4 flows
She use to be a christian before…
But now all she wanna do is shop for Christian Dior clothes,
Like baby those are cute I adore those
Me & the salesman build a reporso
He understands tha fact that I’m spending all sure doe
Cash only, transactions homie,
And please no receipts the feds like to explore those
They can’t audit if they dnt know I bought it
I been doin this for yrs homie, thoroughly I thought it
Thru, what it do? I am currently recorded on a track & made most of my currency’s imported
We’re too late now, too legitimate to hit ’em with
Lawsuits even if they’re crimes that I did commit
Repeat offender, Anita Baker, playin’ in the whip as they pull me over my sweet surrender
I gotta jewish lawyer as my lead defender
A mis kite as they say is a legal bender
And ATF is present every legal memeber
The coalition, is so officient
You have to be invited or there’s no admission
We know tradition
We spend money so dnt try to make Compete if you’re in no position
I wish you would listen,
I take you back to this trial
Where I am about to be home again like New Edition
My foot is solely fit for this shoe it fits in
Use to record in a basement that rennie gru was pimpin
When pops turned over the keys like a new ignition
If Hov is Jordan, I guess I’m cool with pimpin’
’til I met janette I wanna play a new position
No team playin’, no screen settin’
Because I wanna win games, coach I’m through assistin’
The take over, the break’s over, NIGGA
And I’m a keep killin’ em until the day tht Drake’s over
The wait’s over, the tape’s coming
They bullshittin’ but I’m a comer w. great plumbing
The human mentality’s so eager to hate somethingg
I try to play it off like it ain’t jumpin’
And it’s the predicament that you found Drake in
They collo that I just purchased is sound vacant
’cause I have just been sittin’ in this cell
Thinkin’ what I coulda done to make my first video ground breaking
And whenever I’m flowing on the mic,
Aside from the d I’m throwin’ in ya’ wife
I treat this one session as if it was my last
And I pretend tomorrow is the day I’m going in for life…
lol yall niggas actually going on google and copied and pasted this shit? now when he rehershed these verses was he half singing on autotune….lol!!!!
The christian dior lyric wow i am amazed!! Yall niggas is corney
Kendrick Lamar “section 80” five mic calssic.
I second that homie
Wayne is the one who brought lyrics back starting in 2007 with his mixtapes.
You must be drinnking the same cough syrup as dat nicca
Ohhh NOW you guys don’t give a fuck what Royce says. And Eminem was just being kind hearted when he gave Wayne his props too right? Oh I see.
LOL! You mad?
Royce has officially sold out. Success is certain was trash. You’re officially a nobody to me.
Kendrick Lamar’s flow is overrated too btw great content terrible flow
Its not a bad flow. The southern drawl is strong in his voice so he’d probably sound like heavyweight If he were from New York.
WOW!!! Alright, I’m not commenting anymore on HHDX. Everybody DEFINITELY got they own opinion. After reading this comment, there’s no point in voicing mine. LMAO!! Overrated??? SMH niggas… seriously…
All I sd was he has great lyric not the dreatest flow, his hearts in the right place. The media and fanboys overrate him right now similar to how they did with murs a few years back and he’s so irrelevent right now. stop acting so light skin b, i only state facts, shyt black thoughts from the roots flow is better & I bet kendrick will tell u the same
Waaaahhhh… But Royce you can’t say that, sniff my little nerd head can’t take it. Waaaahhhh please say Eminem is better please. Please don’t say anyone on Young Money can rap because I spend all day hating on them with my dick in my hand.
YES you bitchmade weirdos Drake can spit. Based on the shit I read in here, Slick Rick, Big Daddy Kane, Run DMC, EPMD, Special Ed wouldn’t be considered hip-hop.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
To think you’d compare drake to hem is sickening
This nigga is also a 2 faced bitch.
“If you down with young money, Imma definitely diss you”
Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, & Drake>>>Nicki Minaj
Fucking morons in here for real. I don’t remember being this stupid in my early 20’s or teen years. I haven’t heard one sound argument on why Drake isn’t a lyricist, NOT ONE.
Then I hear Drake is lyrical but Wayne isn’t. Wut? Or maybe I missed the part where hip-hop is only one style now. Maybe Nikkie Minaj should be rocking baggy jeans and screaming thug life or speaking on quasars and astronomy. Why would she ever speak on the concerns of women????
But hey Bad Meets Evil is full of depth and insight about world issues right? Not one song on party and bullshit because the legends NEVER do that, right? OOOh he SPIT BARS DAWG! That shit was like a movie YO!
Ain’t nothing wrong with these rappers or hip-hop its you clown ass wannabes in here.
Well smart one, define lyricism.
i pop in a big l cd. and i laugh at how people like you would even consider drake good. for one i never condone a nigga using autotune. Drake loves that shit. The only nigga ever to pull off a mono tone style was Guru. Drake sound unmotivated and rehearsed (as if they arent his lyrics) it sounds like A,B,D -D, E, F, G. No storyline nor substance. Every lyric after another is boasting a rookie who i’ve only seen on Degrassi. which makes people question his acting behind the musicality. I can go on but honestly fuck drake and fuck this rant…..
get your head out of your ass
We buy into that mothafucking marketing schemes. fuck any of our opinions. fuck royce’s retarted ass opinion at the end of the day the industry is going to feed us mierda and some of will eat it and even come on blogs like this to defend it. and then there are the few of us who will say “FUCK THIS SHIT” and jam to raw the unmarketed, un-industry touched and manufactured….Your opinion does not matter fuck this site and fuck drake. where’s my immortal technique cd at?
filthy ass marketing schemes killing this stuoid public educated children.
yes royce drake is mos def bringing it back with lines like…..I love u like millhouse loves liza/i love you like the ninja turtles love pizza…WTF man i agree with the j cole statement and i’m not a nicki minaj fan really but she’s mos def better than drake and everybody else under the ymcmb imprint unless game goes there then lil wayne anit even the best rapper in his crew anymore…The real people that are bringing it back are tech n9ne kedrick lamar tyler the creator jay rock yelawolf the whole shady camp game lupe…..Drake is overrated and he is just ok he’s not horrible but you can’t put drake on j cole’s level you can’t even put drake on my level
Kendrick Lamar and Tyler certainly aren’t lyricists, Drake is nothing special at all and J.Cole is ok.
Kendrick isnt a lyricist? clean out ya ears and listen to ronald reagan era and rigamortis
Not to mention its usually teenagers w/ no identity that write on these blogs and the fed up people who argue with them. For now on i will read the article laugh and move on.Royce is clearly connected industry wise with niggas like drake its a good business move to talk good about drake. i dont think he is a man of the people..
Yawl need to chill on your goddamn hating as comments. Drake is NICE on the mic. And quit insulting the intelligence of your favorite rapper. JAY Z and Eminem BOTH did songs with Wayne and Drake. Neither one needed to do that shit.
extra money/fans on both sides of the spectrum. to be relevant…to strengthen/tighten the web of mainstream artistry…I mean the list goes on. Take a class in public relations. It doesnt matter how good you are, it matters how many other relevant people co-sign that you’re good. What royce is doing is exactly that he wants to make it in the MOB of mainstream
That lil fancy boy Drake is DEFINITELY one of the illest rhymesmiths in the universe. I was listening to the R.E.D. album the other day and he blew my fucking mind when he spit “i love you like Milhouse loves Lisa…I love you like the Ninja Turtles love pizza!” OH SHIT!! THIS MUTHAFUCKA JUST CHANGED THE GAME WITH THESE DEEP PROPHETIC RHYMES!!! ILLMATIC REINCARNATED!!!!!!!!!!
Drake, Nicki, Wayne, Eminem, and Royce all aren’t talking about shit in their songs now that’s that interesting.
For all the people arguing about lyrics here, someone define what lyricism is and why Drake and company have it.
It took Eminem to help this man named Royce go Gold so why even get upset at anything he says. Lyricism has been around even when Drake and J.Cole were out of the picture so it hasn’t really even gone anywhere. What happened was lazy ass people didn’t use or keep their ears stuck to the underground and that’s why they thought it went away. They’d rather suck off on the pop sh-…
Have you considered the idea that Royce IS talking about the mainstream? How could Royce not keep his ears stuck to the underground scene when thats exactly where he’s been?? Yea the Bad Meets Evil is doing well but he’s not exactly a household…
Look at who used to fill the space that Drake, Nicki & Wayne and filled…It’s not so long ago that the airwaves were dominated by artists like Nelly, Lil John, not too long ago that 50 was the biggest artist out….Soulja Boy etc. I could go on…
You cant tell me that the Young Money trio isn’t a step up lyrically than where mainstream hip hop was before.
supposed to say *not exactly a household name…
Nobody fucks with Elzhi, Lupe Fiasco and Vakill. The midwest got some of the best rappers ever.
Ya pretty boy undercover homo lyricism they aint bad tho
Well fuck my life.
I always thought good lyricism was rhythmical poetry. something as expressive and comparative to works of Pablo Neruda and Gabriel Garcia Marquez, I thought hip hop was music of the people carefully describing and poetically defining life!
Silly fucking me to think all this shit when all these artists mentioned are narcissitic children writers at best. The most randomist shitty ass lyrics ever…And then you pricks have the audicity to call me a hater for defending the dead poetry in mainstream hip hop. Y’all people are on some coon shit satisfied with mediocrity. I bet you guys are the same people who aint doin shit to fuck over filthy corporations, corrupt governments, and tyrannical elitists….fuck it i’m ups!
fam relax…lol…but J Cole is nice
everyone got “opinions” and unfortunately they are all the same liking Drake is the cool thing to do & niggas will do anything to be cool even if it means listening to bullshit.
Drake is okay but NOT hip hop he’s hip pop
Royce funny for this shit…lol….but at least people not putting Cole lyrics down on here
J Cole has great lyrics, but he ain’t bring it back though always been around….if he talking about ‘mainstream’ then I get what he trying to say…but I wouldn’t put drake in there
niggas got”opinions” unfortunately they are all the same. fuck mainstream
Drake isn’t bringing anything back, except maybe horrible music, but thats already been around so.
J. Cole is good though.
I agree yo.
Do y’all realize the futility of speaking your mind on this forum?? You guys aren’t having any meaningful discussions, you’re just deadset on putting down the next man as much as you can for their musical preferences. All you so-called hip hop heads LOVE shitting on other people cause you don’t like what they like. It’s called opinion niggas, catch up. Get it into your heads that there is no such thing as “Real Hip Hop”. It’s a bullshit term y’all invented to feel more superior for listening to some underground/old school rap. The mentality is basically: “I’m better than you cause you like [insert rapper here], but that shit ain’t REAL hip hop.” SMH to all you niggas! LMFAO! I laugh at your arrogant asses everytime I read this shit. Lames, fucking children… My bad, I don’t know why I’m getting so worked up about CHILDREN venting online. Just remember that “kiddie-poo niggas ain’t really that cool.” 😀
“Real HIP HOP” doesn’t have to be underground young dog, the content of the lyrics dictates that, along with the overall sound of the music(beat)….
There is a difference between RAP and HIP HOP…We have a lot of Rappers out here that’s mainstream….very few HIP HOP artists though
Co-Sign!!!
Of course all-knowing saint of music! You are totally correct and your opinion reigns supreme! SMH again… Peep the condescending manner of calling me a “young dog” like I have no idea what I’m talking about! LMAO
Wasn’t condescending dude….I said that out of respect…I see your pic bro…I’m older than you…chill guy
I think term “Real hip hop” is good to seperate us from that corporate mess, and the other thing is the media over sexed opinion of black people, deposing of the fact that wisdom and understanding is the most important factor of life. We tend to look down on the commercial side which is very negative and does’nt promote the rise of our people who are still mainly at the bottom of every society in the world
I’m sorry if I misread your intentions. All I’m trying to say is that you yourself have proven what I just wrote. Who are you to decide what “real hip hop” is? People will always disagree with you as to who is real hip hop and who is not, so why do you portray it as fact? That’s why the term is crap. When you call someone a rapper and not a hip hop artist, you automatically are trying to diminish what they do. Only in hip hop can you get so many fans waving other people off for liking what they don’t. Why are we so fickle? I have no idea! We can’t appreciate others for their different styles because we are so used to the golden age that we can’t let go of it. It’s a different time, and there are enough people keeping that old spirit alive. So stop shitting on the people who are doing something different from that. I’m not saying you have to enjoy every single thing that comes out, hell no! I’m just saying that you don’t have to label someone in your head as being an idiot for thinking that artist is nice.
BTW, you are judging my age on a picture I took 5 years ago? Ok, old dog.
The fans decide what real hip hop is, the real core fans not the ones who jumped on the bandwagon. The reason people complain is if you look at the mainstream you would hardly recognize this art form which at a certain point you had to be legit to enter the game..Hip hop is not for everybody to come in and just claim!!
Hey Alex Hayford, go fuck your mother before I come up to Alexandria, Virginia & do it myself, also nice pic of you & your life partner.
Under the explanation above, over half of the rappers some consider to be real hip hop artists are now only just rappers. Say goodbye to Luda, BIG, Jay-Z, Outkast, NWA, The entire Wu-Tang Clan, Redman, Snoop, Dre, Busta, most of the Boot Camp Clik, Kanye, Eminem, Pun…. I can keep going if you want.
All of those names are just about imperishable and are the exact definition of what hip hop is..YOU say goodbye to the LEGENDS because most of them are not hiting the billboard top 20??? But you see, this is more than just corporate that SHIT what is programmed to these younger generation of fans..Raw talent has nothing to do with being played on radio and television, real fans decide what they want and must keep complaing and become a force for change and decision when it comes to deciding whats going to be the sound of the culture, not the programming directors, who want to put a cap on the mouth peice of the voiceless
You have some issues @Alex, was just making a distinction between the two…never said I didn’t like rappers…lol…Jay is a rapper now and I fuck with guy heavy, but I’m also aware that his content has declined from the 96′ days. And the same can be said for lots of OGs in the game.
J cole is a Hip Hop artists that is trying to maintain his sound (although he’s having a battle with his label)…But I think there is a clear difference in the styles, and I’m sure you can tell too….Understanding that the music isn’t HIP HOP doesn’t mean you have to dislike it, just means you know what you’re listening to.
(PS…OG is cool)
Ehh, this is useless. Ur too young to even make a statement about other hip-hop fans that actually been around the genre in the early to late 90s… I say real hip-hop when it comes to the rap I remember, yes its obvious an opinion but if u compare the shit thats out now, its nowhere close to the music back then… i honestly think shit like gucci n waka shouldnt be considered rap, but hey, just an opinion.
Alex Hayford fuck off
Damn, stop arse licking Royce.. first EM now the whole of Jay Z and lil wayne crew!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3_JfmBejjw
This is true Hip Hop.
What.The.Mother.Fuck., Drake is fucking terrible, I bet he has a pussy, Royce please stop giving this little bitch props.
J Cole >>>>>> Drake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicki Minaj. Can’t stand that chick. lol
didn’t this dude share his dislike for young money? now hes on their dick????????????
Why is it that someone gets famous as fuck and people first dig him then diss him/her. For example, no one was hating on Drake before he blew up neither were they hatin on Nicki so much. Success = Having ALOT of haters.
Drake ruined himself by talking too much..the second dude started doing dumb shit like “freestylin” from blackberries and doing interviews saying homo shit he lost a lot of people…Can’t hide being corny, and his overall music changed. He trying to fit in these days, dude wasn’t doing that when he came out….
Nicki was getting hated on fam…lol…guys really wasn’t paying attention to her though honestly…nobody thought she would blow….and her music was way different, she came out on some Kim nasty type ish…
And joell ortiz doesn’t use his blackberry?? kill yourself
Joel ortiz? don’t fuck with guy
FUCK THE FAKE
There were A LOT of nicki haters from the start. Drake only got a lot of haters when he went to young money and when he sounded like he was biting off kanye and wayne
Drake might have lyrics but he ain’t got the voice. Like Guru said if your voice ain’t dope you need to chill !!!
Drake?!?!? BWHAHAHAHA …………. Fucking dumbass.
Drake?! BWHAHAHAHAhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa … Fucking dumbass.
Andre Cooper is drakes bitch
Drake not a lyricist??
– Verse 1]
Look, here we go,
the first time around,
I left the cars at the house and I put the diamonds down,
them things come and they go its about the rhyming now,
I’m seeing it clearer the season is nearer,
and still I must change,
I’m like a broken bill,
conservative for the most but I’m outspoken still,
they not sure of the work but they all hoping he’ll,
emerge to victor my words are pictures
and guess the colours so loud that you heard my scripture,
with 4 walls give me the right brush and I draw all,
I promise I’ve been thinking before ya’ll,
I barely get tired Im rarely inspired,
and you accomplish in a week what I’m daily required,
I meet quotas while you rappers having sleep overs,
spending nights in the studio trying to beat Hova,
be in the throne instead of being your own,
but Look
I’m making moves in my city so,
my ex girls wanna be up in the video,
they ex girls is steady tryin to get with me though,
important an’ vital I’m caught in a cycle,
this is all I know,
and yes I know it well,
I try to explain it, my effort comes to no avail,
Im from the place where they release records and no one sells,
and still they claim king n-gga it’s the same thing,
all day long,
but thats a screw face,
rappers befriend you at first but really they two faced,
hoping they slip and trip over your own shoelace,
thats why I tuck em in not giving a f-ck again,
D.R.A you add a K.E
a couple mill and you labels cannot play me,
I never go broke I’m far from a flash in the pan,
I am a passionate man, plan it with cash in my hand,
uh
are you drakes bitch
DRAKE IS MAINSTREAM TRASH
Every drake hater kill yourself!!!
[Verse 3]
I got few days left,
but I’ma make use of every single one until every singles done,
until every record is sold, every string is strung,
tell me take a breather Drake and everything will come,
dog its always been the same,
it’s all love like no score in a tennis game,
for the son of Dennis James,
owner of the city down town on a Friday,
streets behind me like I took a picture in the driveway,
I roll down strips and hose down whips
lyrics courtesy of killerhiphop.com
that when turtle wax up they would close down Richmond,
with no down shifting,
haters would say Im adequate,
think I got the type of flow that would make an addict quit,
21 years I’ve been pimping since being
repurchased trap music 4 times since then,
seemless transition Im the new fresh prince
getting pennies for my thoughts,
so I put my two cents in,
top of the morning I am dropping the coin in,
plus I’m changing the game,
you hear me swapping the joint in,
they put the fires out and bring the buyers out,
and try and box us all together before they buy us out,
if they profit from the events we handing flyers out,
then we profit from the attempts to hand desires out,
but rich is how we all ending up,
Im at the label in the elevator send them…up
drake is gay fuck gay money
Andre Cooper IS IN LOVE WITH DRAKE FAG
Andre Cooper is gay and drake is fake and gay
Andre Cooper GET A WIFE AND A LIFE
Used to respect royce you know
so he has his own opinion and now you don’t respect him?? nigga you better check below me….. Drake the truth
Andre Cooper GO SUCK DRAKES DICK YOU DICK RIDER
Nicki minaj isn’t lyrical too me…..
These haterz making it too easy for me…
[Drake:]
I ain’t been here in a minute
Cut the lights off I feel fantastic right now baby…
Yeah… Look…
I said I used to cut the porch lights on and now I cut the porches lights on just to let them know their foresights wrong
Where this rapper going with that obscure ice on he a lame I’m just tryna get my mature life on
O D.
O. D. Everybody know me, even fans that resemble them kids in the O.C.
Oh me Oh my them girls love me like Seth Cohen,
So get a grip get a glass pour the X. O. in
I did want one these niggas to say that I’m not the same
Pick a road cause where you drivin is not a lane
And rest in peace to Pimp C life is not a game,
Taking over the world no pinky just a lotta Brain
He bout to send them the shit that I’m on (Yeah)
You prolly could have predicted I’m on (Yeah)
My sense of judgment is a officially gone
Up into the air all the smoke from the swisha is blown
Ahh… I’m grown I’m grown I’m living in this elevator zone alone
I’m up so high I’m never coming down and you say you got them hoes but they never coming round
I got pent house walls I stay high above your ass
And I can see it all, my balcony is glass
And wifey’s over (Bitches)
But moneys over (Her)
Cause money’s under (Nothin)
My life is such a (Blur)
That’s not the way it has to go it’s jus what I prefer
And do not disagree with me it’s best you jus concur
I’m a legend with a legacy that can’t help but survive
Even when I fuckin die they gonna bury me Alive…
“THE SQUARE ROOT OF 69 IS EIGHT SOMETHING”
“THE SQUARE ROOT OF 69 IS ATE SOMETHING”
I want Drake to paint my face with his cum while Jay-z rapes my face!
royce wtf drake wow
i used to respect royce, wtf…
fuck drake is a pop artist
im Andre Cooper i suck drake dick
fuck gay money
FUCK YOUNG GAY MONEY
i love drake im gay
fuck Andre Cooper and drake
Andre Cooper IS IN LOVE WITH DRAKE looll
Andre Cooper go die dick lips you look like a bitch
drake is a fake a sell out, fuck young money and the south.
you should know a FAKE when you see one
So, everybody who gets success is a sellout?
DRAKE IS lyrical IS THAT A JOKE
He is -sometimes- yall just assume all mainstream rappers are never lyrical. And no I do not like Drake I think his music is terrible.
IT IS A JOKE LOOL
IS royce high ,fuck drake and fake ass young
money they do POP music you stupid nigerr not hip hop
MY NIGGA 5’9 needs to put his earphones on and listen to some BASEDGOD AKA LIL B NAHMEAN?
BASEDGOD – I’m Gay is the best album of this year……nahsaying……..that nigga is the truth, great productions and lyrics.
FVCK Cole and Drake punk ass
Drakes OK lyrically but I don’t like him. J cole is good.
Okay Royce… wtf are you doing? Nicki Minaj is bring “lyricism” back? Are you kidding?
Nigga’s about to be removed from my top 10.
I figured y’all wouldn’t like it so this is more y’all taste…
[Waka Flocka Flame]
I step in the club, rollin on that loud shit
My weed keep your security saying be quiet
My bread startin a riot, your girl getting excited
hold on wanna try it, I’m like why not try it
My swag they wanna buy it, my juice they wanna try it
club going stupid, when I Oh Lets do it
Chu ain’t gotta chew it, juking and she moving
Grove street villain nigga who you killin?
Broke two years ago, now I’m worth a million
Jacksons to the ceiling that’s how we ballin
You know that I’m rollin
Throwing up the mean bread
Now I’m bout to meet her in the club with a heater……….. KILL YOURSELF
LOL@ THE HATERZ…..i AM DICK RIDING DRAKE? BUT ALL I SEE IS MY NAME!!!! WHO DICK RIDING WHO??KILL YOURSELF
wayne, drake, cole thats kool but how about krit, wale, freddie gibbs, meek mill, cyhi, & pill
What a joke. Aint none of these dudes no lyricist.
agreed
J cole is but the other two used to be before signing to young money
Its cool that im gay but i lick my own asshole
Royce is cool that he acknowledges j cole as a person to bring back lyricism, however nicki minaj??? wtf shes a dumb ho that cant rap for shit.
nicki can actually rap drake also if yu listen to their old tracks they had lyrics maybe hes referring to that
j cole yeah the rest are wack
it’s his fucking opinion, so yall need to hop off
At the end of the day, this is the pure truth. Royce said what he felt. Don’t miss the forest for the trees.
lol-this must be a comedy sketch or Royce must have gone deaf after that wack hell the sequel….makes me not want to cop that forthcoming slaughterhouse
Royce is just sayin this shit in the hopes of appealing to and attracting some of their fanbases, it’s nothing new he’s always been a mainstream groupie dude’s fuckin desperate to be consider successful by the retarded standards of the mainstream
he’s the furthest thing from being Hip Hop all he cares about is sales and money dudes corny as fuck, dope as fuck rapper but nothin Hip Hop about the man
REALLY ROYCE? YOU KNOW THAT IS BULLSHIT… EVERYONE OVER AT YOUNG MONEY IS GARBAGE
I don’t understand why people are buying the Young Money crap. it is shitty lyrics, shitty people and shitty beats… i hate Lil Wayne and don’t understand his popularity.
YM has lyrics -sometimes- its just they make pop music and they can’t flow and they sound annoying.
wtf? nicki minaj is lyrical? come on royce everybody know nicki & drake are GARBAGE
but about j. cole i agree with u!
LOL, Really? Come on, look at the underground its all about lyrics. Ill bill, Slaine, Tech N9ne, Brotha Lynch Hung.. Like this is garbage, but for the mainstream, ANY ONE would think that lil wayne is an amazing rapper, or rick ross.. or whoever.. but people need to seriously look beneath the mainstream, Jedi Mind Tricks for example, amazing. Heavy Metal Kings, amazing. People are just too dumb when they listen to the mainstream to not realize that theres better hip hop out there. /rant
JMT and similar artists blabber big words to try to sound intelligent and have no idea what the fuck they are saying. Pure rubbish, and I’m not even British. Some underground I like, but this dictionary rhyming bullshit sucks.
jus because your stupid ass doesnt understand the lyrical content doesnt mean its “dictionary” rapping, I understand every single verse JMTs has ever spit and non of its “jibberish”
Just because you don’t understand what he’s saying don’t mean it’s smart to paraphrase Jay-z.
what you jus posted is retarded, now re-read it over n over until you realise why its dumb as fuck
and I never said what they spit was “smart” I said I understand it and it makes perfect sense, which it does,
jus because YOU cant understand it doesnt mean its nonsense it jus means YOUR NOT SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND IT!!!
Your right, JMT is so relevant because they are so damn entertaining. Lets spit some political conspiracy bullshit on every album over some mediocre beats and get all these fucking internet losers help us get past the 1,000 album sell mark.
I’m all for lyricism, but you can’t be stuck on the underground. People who say mainstream is whack, doesn’t spend the time to find the GREAT mainstream that is put out daily. Y’all listen to the radio and that’s as far as you go, but there are still so many cuts coming from the mainstream it’s ridiculous.
Being an underground fanboy is, in my opinion, just as bad as being a radio fanboy.
Being underground, your basically using your own brain and not leting the powers that be dictate to you whats hot, thats all. And if it was’nt for groound breaking lyricism there would not have been a hip hop explosion in the mainstream in the eighties with LL, RUNDMC, PE,NWA,KRS 1, we were listening to the powerful words they were saying. Lyricism is the only thing that seperates rap from normal pop culture
So borderline, nobody in the underground would trade places with Drake in an instant? I think a lot of “underground” rapper aren’t that by choice.
love the taste of drake’s dick up on my lips, waiting for the night he gon grab me by the hips,
want his cum in my ass, give it a sip
Thats the reason i’ve never bought any of his albums. Even though he has skills i never really agree with anything he says. He always sucking up to the people that are making it big.
Word!
Wait a minute! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Drake Sucks, I can’t believe Royce would say some shit like this 🙁
Drake? “She will, the again she won’t but then again she will” those are great lyrics??
lmao at these kids; that’s just a hook, songs are structured differently than rap verses you retard, have you honestly read the lyrics to famed R&B/rock songs? think about the vocal instrument and how the lyrics and the background melody conflate to create a sort of atmosphere
So i am bored and decide to check back in on some comments and what do i see…. Someone using my name lmao!!!! I could care less…. The proof is there and if you disagree you just ignorant and stuck in the early 90’s….. I have damn near every rap album to name from big pun wu-tang the roots all the way down to master p gucci waka and so on…..Royce can say whatever he wants because at the end of the day he has his own taste… Haterz just find reason’s to hate…I can’t wait til nas says waka is his fav rapper…Watch how many nas fans turn there back…Kill yourself
That’s terrible going from wutang to master >>>wacka flame
Ok, music is good to have fun and party, but at some point you have to challenge your brain and stop being an embarrassment…. stick with your nas!
Lyrics have been in hip-hop forever, throughout the bullshit trends that people hop on and abandon, and lyrics will still matter.
Now, it seems to me that Royce is just following the script that many artist who are mainstream (now) are doing. There is a big difference between stating your honest opinion and following a script to stay in line. Mention someone who people in your camp have worked with before as “bringing something back” when it was never “gone” in the first place.
Lyrics always mattered in the underground, but now that people like “Jay-Z and Eminem” say it matters in the mainstream, it happens to make a comeback. Lyrics always mattered to Canibus, but will Hiphopdx mention this????Of course not.
Good luck with that.
how the hell did he not mention lupe?
Did Royce Da 5’9″ just say that Young Money is contributing to bringing LYRICISM back?…..Hip hop just died