If there’s one thing rap fans love debating more than the greatest rapper of all time or the best album ever made, it’s Verzuz match-ups.
As one of the biggest rappers in history, Eminem‘s name naturally crops up in such conversations. Busta Rhymes has long eyed a battle with the Detroit rap icon, even if Fat Joe believes he’s unfuckwitable in the Verzuz ring.
Marshall Mathers has yet to step into the arena — and there’s been little indication he ever will — but that hasn’t stopped the chatter.
Dr. Dre added fuel to the fire on Sunday (January 23) when he posted a video of his good friend Eminem spitting his tongue-twisting closing verse from 2020’s “Godzilla.” The clip was originally uploaded by Em to Triller, the video-sharing service that bought Verzuz last March.
“Marshall Mathers vs Who???!!” Dre captioned the post.
Dr. Dre‘s question may not have been strictly referring to a Verzuz, but his question nevertheless sparked a debate over who (if anyone) would make a worthy opponent.
Veteran Hip Hop photographer Jonathan Mannion (who shot Em’s Marshall Mathers LP album cover among other iconic rap albums) agreed with Dre, writing, “Nobody. Eminem is surgical.”
However, Verzuz co-founder Swizz Beatz sees it differently, and he made no bones about who he’d love to see take on Marshall Mathers in the Verzuz arena. “BUSTA !!!!!!!!!!! Let’s go,” he replied.
JAY-Z, Lil Wayne and fellow rapid-fire rapper Twista were also brought up as a potential opponents.
Charlamagne Tha God Lists Off Rappers Who Would Shred Eminem In Verzuz - Including 6ix9ine
If you ask Charlamagne Tha God, though, Eminem doesn’t stand a chance in the Verzuz arena.
“Em gets washed in any Verzuz,” The Breakfast Club host said matter-of-factly during an episode of his Brilliant Idiots podcast last year.
“Em don’t have the songs like that. Em can rap and we like Em as a rapper, [but] Future washes Eminem in a Verzuz. Em don’t got nothing that slaps like [6ix9ine’s] ‘GUMMO’ to these young kids. Yo, Young Thug washes Eminem in a Verzuz.”
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Thank you, I scrolled through all these comments and yous is the very last one. Otherwise I would’ve had to write it myself.
To whomever wrote this, I’m going to say let Em faces his REEL TEACHER. ESHAM. That’s where he got got his style from. Just listen to all ESHAM music. Em is just a copycat. REELLIFE…..
Yout all pathetic
Busta vs Em is a good versuz
Jay Z is the best opponent for Em but Swizz and Timbaland dont want their mans to lose
Stop it lol
Let’s be forreal. Em is a lyrical GYMNAST. One of the best at that STYLE. However, that does not translate to GOOD MUSIC.
The fact is Em raps on that “Lyrical Miracle” style that rappers have loooong stopped practicing and he has made it his corner stone for the past 15 years.
Em is NOT “better” than Jay-Z or Nas or J.Cole when it comes to the art of RAP.
He can’t even write in their style. But they CAN write in his… but choose not to because the age “lyrical gymnastics” has moved on. It’s like being a Break Dancer in todays world of modern hip hop dance. Yes, it takes skill but people are past it.
Bro you can’t be serious. Saying one person is “better” is subjective. In what metric are you using to define that. If it’s not your preference in music, cool. Funny how rappers don’t want to “RAP” when someone comes out clearly better. In turns of songs. I’ll put songs like till I Collapse, Stan, soldier, way I am, lose yourself, sing for the moment…. etc against anyone catalog.
Yall get it twisted because he like to joke around in his music alot. His creativity is facking unmatched.
Yea, but those songs you mentioned were before the “lyrical miracle” style the OP mentioned (he said 15 theast 15yrs, the Eminem show came out 20 yrs ago!) Also, yes, this is all subjective, but opinions exist, and dude isn’t coming out of left field with his take. I love the first three Eminem albums, but few songs since.
Yeah I think his reply is missing the larger picture. All the songs that they named are incredible works. And Em is a lyrical genius, but again I will refer to the Break Dancer analogy. If I were a break dancer I would have to be able to to incorporate other styles of dance to be an over all incredible dancer. If I stay within the confines of a single attribute how good am I really? What makes MMA fighters GREAT fighters is there ability to mix up different styles lol
Em has more success but Em can’t rock a crowd like Busta. If it came to fruition it would be funny though if Bus dragged Mariah out as a guest. As far as Jay goes, there’s only one he can go up against and that’s Nas, and Nas would win.
No one can. Busta literally built his career on being animated and hype. He would be a mismatch for almost anyone including Jay and Nas. Just a clash of styles even tho we all know busta not top tier. Versus is made for his style
Yeah. I agree 100%. But now that I think about it. Redman might be a good match for Busta. They both go nuts live.
Now that would be an amazing verzuz! We gotta make this happen.
I think Jay the greatest but you dudes high that Em can’t rock with him. Charlemagne said Em don’t have hits that speak to the youth… hey dum dum… Em has records that are still hitting Diamond nowadays. His curtain call been on BB for how many years now. Check the numbers for his Monster track with Juice.
Verzuz is more a black platform and the same reason Black Twitter try to cancel him, same reason he wouldn’t be great in a verzuz… hint. His skin color.
Thats why charlamagnus lol is only on tv cuz em already washed u up.
I want a fair. Erzuz and everyone knows that white people don’t know how to be so I figured he best Verzuz opponent that we can find for Eminem would be Kid Rock. They’re both famous white rappers from Detroit. There’s no home color advantage. May the best white rapper win. ?
Literally the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard.
If you want to put him up against a white rapper it should be El P.
Em vs Busta is disrespectful but y’all gon say I’m hating on Busta or dick riding Em so nvm. The only worthy opponents are Jay Z, nas, Wayne… and that’s it. Em obliterates literally anyone else as the best selling rapper of all time
Dr. Dre grew up with white boys him and 50 cent.
No gangsters listening to NO EM!!
TELL DRE TAKE THAT WHITE BOY TO HOLLYWOOD TO RAP FOR THEM
Eminem was based in L.A. for a short time. He went back to Detroit. I don’t think Dre will convince him.
Ok, “gangster”. Lmaoo sit yo minimum wage ass down.
Jada Vers Em. These muhfuckas stupid coming up with other shit. Wash ya ears, The fucks your problem!?
The longer Eminem makes music the more unlistenable it becomes. His early albums had some joints but listening to someone try to cram the dictionary into every verse is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!
I agree I haven’t loved his last 3-4 albums or more. I think he’s an all time great though, because of his cover to cover classic albums to start his career. I never got into “versuz” but he definitely has enough hits to go back and forth with anyone.
The crazy thing is if you listen to his older work, it’s almost just as terrible. But this was early 2000s. Even Ja Rule was going triple platinum. MTV still had complete control over the “next big thing,” and Eminem got in just before the door closed. Dre’s a genius to have made a career out of that sound. He’s one of the most obnoxious, empty human beings I’ve ever heard step to a microphone.
Tech. N9ne. ?
TECH.
N9NE.
Tech N9ne the only one on the same level and Em knows this. He has spoken highly of him multiple times.
You mean a white man approves of a black man’s work? That’s incredible!
Good thing Dre approved of Eminem’s early psychobabble, the boy didn’t sell more than 1,000 albums without Dre. Look at their net worth values sometime. lol Eminem’s just a white dude who fit Dre’s suit. He’s trash. But these black boys know there’s a lot of angry, single white men in the world angry cause they’re not rich. If Eminem had been black, he wouldn’t have sold half. He wouldn’t have sold anything.
Only Hip Hop artist I can see performing with a similar amount of flow and energy with Busta is Tech N9Ne.. but he don’t have the hits Busta does. Otherwise I can’t see anyone fucking wit Busta on tha stage!!
Facts.
Eminem is straight trash. Dude has Cat and Hat rhymes…
Nah. More like silver blue cats, chilling crew hats. So that makes it better. /s.
Catching hat rhymes??? LOLOLOLOL, damn….hip hop fans these days…hilarious
He’s better than the new trash rappers that’s out now,the stuff they say now is cat in the hat rhymes.
The cat
The hat
The mat
My sack
Rectal thermometer
Rihanna is taller than (me)
Yeah he sucks shit, I can’t believe anyone is this stupid.
I’m just gonna state some facts.
Eminem was just announced as Spotify’s most listened to Global Hip Hop act of 2021. He won that spot the last 6 years in a row. His international appeal far out does Drake, The Weeknd and other artist.
Eminem has sold more copies of physical albums than Drake, Jay Z, Kanye West, and Lil Wayne Combined at a little over 200 million albums world wide.
He even physically out sold the Beatles from 2000-2010, significant because the Beatles held that title for 40 years.
Eminem has no one who can face him in a versus because his world wide appeal would break the servers, from Tibet, Brazil, Ukraine, Japan, Australia, to all of Europe. His fans are not outnumbered.
His catalogue of singles like Shake That, With Out Me, Stan, The Real Slim Shady and even the non single Til I Collapse could easily hype people the same way Future or Drake’s club music does. He’s never been a club rapper
Everyone also assumes the new generation doesn’t care at all about Eminem. False.
I’m 17 and think he’s the best. I know kids who are 3 years younger than me who have him as a favorite and my uncle who showed me Eminem is 40 something. I think he wouldn’t just win any versus, he would embarrass most people’s legacies.
But what do you old farts know?
Signed Gen Z
Eminem has not sold more records than them combined that’s foolish Jay z has over 100 and 20 million records all Kanye West has over 175 million sold Drake has about 200 million salt himself Emmett Lil Wayne has about a hundred and million album sold himself… Eminem is the highest paid for happy holidays
Reading that just killed all my brain cells
I just crunched your numbers you included stream equivalent in those totalsm check soundscan if you think I’m lying. But if we go by streams Eminem is at 700 million copies world wide which still outnumbers the tops you mentioned. No disrespect but you can’t make shit up
I’m gonna state one fact:
MGK embarrassed him.
Dre gave him a career in exchange for royalties (Look at their net worth comparison)
Aftermath pays for those YouTube and Spotify numbers in spades
Why you think he’s got 50 million YouTube views but can’t sell 2 million albums?
Why you think everyone’s listening on Spotify but he hasn’t gone triple platinum in 11 years?
Look at Joe.m the one MGK fan had to make a comment.
MGK got bodies so bad he switched genres.
No one will know who he is in 10 more years. But I bet people will still be playing Ems music.
As far as Ems net worth. $250 million from pure music. No endorsement, no huge collabs, mainly just royalty checks. Dres a billionaire from selling Beats to Apple.
To the other guy, your wrong. Jay has 80 million equivalents sold, Kanye only has 25 million equivalents and Drake has 100 million equivalents.
Eminem has 220 million physical copies sold. That’s CD, vinyl or digital album purchases, not streams.
I think a 1000 streams is like one album sold or something like that. Do the math. No body is messing with Eminem.
Correction, MGK switched genders and genres
Mystikal all day…crazy bone…bizzy bone… c’mon man
Did charlamagne the racist really just say 6 nine would beat em? Wtf ! He must still be on that rack pipe..such a clown
Number of people who listened to Eminem before Dr. Dre made him and took all his royalties:
He sold 1,000 albums. That’s how many albums pre-Dre Eminem sold. MTV created him.
What you’re thinking of as “Em” was an early 2000s-2010 star during an MTV era when even Ja Rule went triple platinum.
Eminem was a novelty back in a day when any rapper could sell. Did they sell as much as him? No. Because he’s easily the most relatable artist and Aftermath packaged him perfectly. How many angry white teenage boys you know who are pissed because they’re white and not rich? Lots. He’s relatable as a person, but as a rapper, he’s a joke.
1,000 albums. That’s what he sold without Dre. And what he would have always sold. Why you think Dre is worth $900 million and Eminem has $230 million? He fit a suit Dre gave him. That’s it.
Eminem vs. Slim Shady….he’s been in that battle for years.
If we’re all honest with ourselves, MGK already embarrassed him. Not only does Rap Devil have nearly the same number of views as -honestly can’t even remember the name of what Eminem’s response was, that’s how forgettable it was-, but MGK’s last album had better first week sales than Eminem’s. Which is pathetic.
Throw in the fact that high school girl’s who talk fast and valley often perfectly rap to Eminem’s bizarre rhyme style, and you’ve only got one choice if you’re Dre: Throw him against Britney Spears. That’s about the only person he’s better than at this moment. His style is almost completely incoherent and bizarre and maybe always was. But MTV could make a star in the 2000s, it was a different time. Even artists like Ja Rule were going triple platinum. So the area – other than gangster rappers like Dre and Snoop – was just incredibly soft. For awhile there, anyone could be a star, even a nasally dork. He fit the suit.
MGK embarrassed him? Are you nuts? Dude, you’re an absolute idiot if you think Rap Devil was a good diss. Clean your ears out.
Your hater stitch is foul!
Are you smoking crack nobody can fuck with Em at all bro that’s fr look at wat that man did to this rap game he made it possible for mgk to even be in the rap game stop playing with the ?
Damn you really riding that MGK dildo hard that your puppeteering as a fangirl.. :.D
The whole concept of “battling” with pre-recorded songs is corny.
I sorry Em is the G.O.A.T. His lyrics and delivery is everything. People love and can’t deny real. Em is the crazy guy he speaks about.
You have obviously fell out the dumb as a bag of rocks tree and hit your head on every branch on your way down if you think MGK even came close to touching Em at any point in his pathetic carter
Busta would kill Em
Lmao, yeah right