Joe Budden was an outspoken critic of Eminem’s 2017 effort Revival and consequently, Slim Shady blatantly dissed the former Slaughterhouse MC on the 2018 follow-up Kamikaze. On Friday (January 17), Em blindsided his fans once again with another surprise album called Music To Be Murdered By.
During episode #314 of The Joe Budden Podcast with Rory & Mal, the show’s hosts dissect the new project and Budden is unexpectedly positive.
“I’ll tell ya one thing, buddy: that’s how you start a project,” he says. “People are gonna replay this album. This is the best we’ve heard him in a while — the best album we’ve heard from him [in a while].”
Then Budden addresses the perceived disses that pop up on the album, which reunites Slaughterhouse vets Joell Ortiz, Royce Da 5’9 and KXNG Crooked on the track “I Will.” Aside from Budden being noticeably missing — which could be considered a subtle slight — many people assumed the line, “Your group is off the chain, but you’re the weakest link” is about Budden. However, he says that’s not the case.
“The Em line in that song, when he was tearing Lord Jamar’s ass up on old group flips, that led to ‘Your group is off the chain, but you’re the weakest link,'” he says around the 47-minute mark. “In a song featuring [members of] Slaughterhouse, I could see how that looked like it was about Joe. Joe says it was not.
“That’s about Lord Jamar, obviously, if you listen to the eight bars coming before it. You [listeners can] get your panties out the bunch.”
Budden also reacts to “Lock It Up” featuring Anderson .Paak in which Eminem raps, “Try’na save at Kroger, so why would I give a fuck about back-stabbin’ Trader Joe for?”
“Trader Joe, Trader Joe, Trader Joe — that’s hurtful,” he says. “[Laughs] That’s not right! [Laughing] That’s offensive, man. Trader Joe? I’m Joe. [Laughs] You’re telling me Joe is a traitor?”
But Budden is ready for all the shots to stop flying in his direction.
“The same way I feel like [Eminem] should stop dissing Lord Jamar, he should stop dissing me. [Laughs],” he says. “Hey, whatever we had—that exchange when you did all the [multi-day interview segments with Sway Calloway], and whenever I said whatever I said on the pod’, it a moment in time.
“We had our exchange. It’s over. In 2020, I can’t harbor negativity not only towards one of the best rappers, but somebody I’m not angry at. That’s what I gotta stop doin’. I don’t be mad at the people I come in and kill. There’s no hostility after that.”
Ultimately, Budden insists he’s cool with everybody — including Em and KXNG Crooked.
“I don’t have a problem with anybody,” he says. “Everybody has to do what’s best for them. Everybody has to move in a way that they see fit. So when it comes to [it], the word ‘traitor’ is just a little misleading. I have no beef with Em’; I have no problem with Em’. I’ve only ever had but so many conversations with Em’. I’ve been very consistent in my message though: the only problem or issue that I had was in how our business was set up. The end.
“Does that make me a bad guy? For having a different perspective for how the business should go or how we should be treated, or how we should be handled—especially when it’s our sh*t? Like, I know now, ownership is cool and all. But some of us were fighting for it then. I don’t think that should make me a traitor.”
Listen to the full episode above.
Fuck both these mother fuckers. Son of a bitch. Mother fuckers. Fuckin peice of shits. Mother fuckers. They both sound like garbage. Hoe budden needs to get smacked silly. Son of a bitch. Mother fuckers. Fuck.
OMG you’re like everywhere with that. I really don’t get why you talk that way. I’m going to assume age or pure hatred over an artist that is better than your fav’s.
LMFAO you seem so angry…. Calm down and stop raging on the internet.
Im an em fan and understand why hes upset but at the same time hes taking it overboard. Minus a song or 2 Revival sucked.. last 2 albums were much better
If Joe would stop giving him so much material, he wouldn’t have any reason to diss him. Joe sits on his butt and judges others on his podcast. That’s fine. But when you say something negative about someone, they might just diss you. Joe would like nothing more than for ppl to forget about his issues with Em. But we won’t. He’s a jealous, angry & hateful person. He clearly has seeked therapy to have finally said anything positive about Em.
Joe knows he’d demolish Em. When you KNOW you’re better than someone it doesn’t matter how many times they diss you.
Em just looks like a fucking puppy nipping at his masters ankles trying to get their attention keep dissing Joe.
Either release a full blown track going at Joe like he challenged you to over a year ago, or just STFU already Marshall.
Budden is in my top 5 but come on, he’d get eaten alive by Em. He released 4 diss tracks at Drake but a year later hid behind retirement when Em challenged him. I was so disappointed, he’s never ducked anyone, but to be fair could’ve been bad for his career, look at MGK, all he’s asked about is Eminem, which is annoying.
Bruh I was mad AF at Budden for bowing out.
He didn’t hide behind shit, he’d been retired, and hadn’t even mentioned Em in over a year. Why should he break his retirement for 1 mediocre as fuck Barr on Kamikaze. You expect him to take time off his real career to choose a beat and write a track to reply to 1 fucking Barr, 1 mediocre as fuck Barr at that. FOH!!!!
Joe Buthole RETIRED for a reason, NO ONE CARES about Mr. Pod ‘I Like Hearing My Own Voice’ Cast. He dissed Em and f*cked up Slaughterhouse, so deserves ANY Heat comin’ his way! Em’s headlining STADIUMS and Joe couldn’t fill a club in most cities…… Double fck No Go Joe!
Even Budden can’t deny this album is dope as fuck.
Nah, Premonition good
I had to stop listening to the podcast because they couldn’t stop shitting on white people and blaming them for every negative thing ever …. he’s a racist and so are the cousin toby white bits he has
welcome to america. where black america can literally just blame everyone of their communities issues on white folks..must be nice being gays, woman and blacks being able to be fully grown men and woman and still find someone else 2 blame for their fuck ups
Clearly you have been watching too much Fox news
No i just watch ig and twitter and watch black ppl do everything but fix up their own lives
That`s funny, i`m white and i never felt like Joe and Mal ever has shitted on white people.
You must be mad sensitive or something.
Em and joe would be an entertaining beef if they both traded full diss tracks against each other for real. But Em don’t stop lol joe would get tired of it and em would wash him with the last diss….my opinion lol
Drake will have bigger sales than eminem when comparing latest albums despite eminem being pop and drake being hiphop and R&B
Who mentioned Drake? What does he have to do with this? Is he your crush or something?
Now that’s sound like a guy who knows not to mess with em, he knows his place now
As someone who was a big Budden fan dating back to MM2 I’m pretty tired of his act. He retires from music and the running joke on his podcast for the longest time was who was an MC capable of saying something that would take him out of retirement. Enter Eminem on his last album and what does Joe do?? He gets on the mic to bullshit and bellyache about how SH was handled at Shady when ANYONE could’ve told them how all of that was going to play out for them. The respectable thing to do would’ve been diss the shit out of Em with bars not sitting around with his two yes men and have a yuck fest. Even if Em would’ve won as far as bars go I’d have still respected Joey for stepping up and giving Em a challenge considering he’s never really had one.
Budden probably would have been the best opponent Em ever had. But, he’s happy in retirement
I think Em is just baiting Budden and Lord Jamar, he keeps taking lil shots cause he’s hoping one, or both, of them will come back with a diss song so he can comeback with a full diss song, but neither of them are biting. Would be cool if they did tho, Em against REAL rappers.
We’ve already established that Budden & Jamar won’t respond. If Em actually wants to battle them, then he needs to SAY THAT on wax! But instead, he’s coming across like a whiny narcissistic b!tch, who’s sad because he found out that not everyone likes him.
He BODIED Jamar w/that Line “Ur Group was off the Chain, but Ur the weakest Link!” And Joe Budden got BODIED by Jigga back in like 2003, right?
Of course all the old beefs are dug back up whenever a new Eminem album drops. Thats just his whole gimmick and marketing angle and shit been like that since day 1. Nothing personal just release strategy. Guy’s still dissing Mariah who he dated for like 2 seconds 20 years ago for fucks sake, so don’t expect them Jamar and Budden subtles to stop anytime soon.
Em’s a grumpy old man who can’t handle any form of critique, even if it’s constructive. And that’s the sad truth. No wonder, if you isolating yourself from the world for 15+ years. You become bitter and stuck in your ways.
Maybe if they kept his name out of their mouths. he wouldn’t be destroying them. But the bottom line is , no one is hearing from these cats, until they start talking about EM… sad situation really. i don’t doubt he wishes he never started it.. That Trader Joe line was straight FLAME