Fans of Slaughterhouse have been clamoring for a reunion since KXNG Crooked announced his departure last year. But Joe Budden, one of the group’s core members, has consistently maintained that will never happen.
During the October 12 episode of Budden’s YouTube series Pull Up, he and Freddie Gibbs were chopping it up about career longevity. The ever-outspoken host not only reiterated a reunion wasn’t in the cards, he also revealed he’d once suggested his fellow Slaughterhouse members Joell Ortiz, Royce Da 5’9 and Crooked replace him.
“That’s why I ain’t doing it,” Budden said. “I can’t speak for why they’re not doing it. When I suggested that they find probably another rapper to take my place and still put out music, they didn’t think that was the greatest idea, and that was years ago. That might’ve changed.”
Budden then outlined his initial issues with the group.
“But my fight, with that even, without the extra Eminem bullshit is just ownership,” he explained. “I cannot devote this much of my time to a project, eat a fourth from the project, and then it have to go up the chain of command?
“I gotta make sure all these niggas are making sure our project do what it gotta do and then we gettin’ the scraps from the bottom? That was my fight. We an independent outfit.”
Slaughtherhouse formed in 2008 and released two studio albums, culminating with 2012’s Welcome To: Our House.
Check out the full episode above.
Joe has made more impact from speaking out of his a***, than rapping. Ironically, he wasn’t even the best in Slaughterhous.
Only in hiphop is a tired, one hit wonder given this kind of platform where he is able to dump on and tarnish the legacy of a legend. Only in hiphop do we s*** on our legends while they’re alive and worship them when they’re dead.
Our tabloid magazine culture has bred the likes of Joe Budden, Lord Jamar, Vlad and Akademiks.
Non stop coonery.
Those who can make a living rapping, rap. Those who can’t make a living rapping, start podcasts and do Love and Hip Hop.
Only in hiphop is a man like this given a platform to say what he wants and dump on a legend. He has done zero for the craft. Zero.
A revisionist history tells us hes a revered lyricist. Hip hop has many more and better than him. None of them have the clout that this man has.
Men like Joe, Akademiks, Jamar and Vlad contribute to a culture where we perpetuate negativity; we destroy our legends when they’re with us and worship them when they’re taken.
Our culture is a joke.
Damn fucking straight!
Blaming Eminem because you guys couldn’t decide on a creative direction? Joe Budden really is incapable of taking responsibility for himself.
Em is wack as a label head. Factoid
That’s BS and you know it. Joe ruined it for himself. Crook said they got plenty of cash from the last project. They got their way and made glass house as they fit, but Joe wanted to go independent, but half of the group wanted the shady deal.
No it’s not bs. Welcome to ur house was pure eminem trash he had a hand orchestrating.
No it’s not bs. Welcome to our house was mostly pop trash eminem orchestrated. Factoid again bub.
You’re defending four grown men against one grown man! Get a life! At the end of the day it’s up to the artists to make their art, not the one who commissioned them.
most of yall dont understand the business…interscope gets paid 1st then shady records (eminem) gets paid then these guys split the last but throughout the group…trust me its not any money they will circulate to uphold they puttin there heart an soul into the projects….if it dont make dollars it dont make sense
I think everyone is saying Joe had been in the game over 10 years at that point. He knew that shit before he signed it. Hell, successful groups that are commercially relevant split up over that the money is always funny, so wtf did he think was going to happen with an underground group?
The group would be better without him.
Any time where Crooken and Royce get more room for bars the better.
I don’t think Shady is a good label to be on. But I do think that these guys screwed most of this up themselves.
These guys are hardcore lyricists, if hardcore lyricists drop music the fans will find it.
I always said that when I’d hear their songs. If only Royce and Crook was on this shit by themselves, lol. No disrespect to Joe because he’s cool, but those dudes on another level, and I’m not an Ortiz fan at all.
Mixtapes were FIRE! As soon as they signed to SHADY they started putting out bullshit songs like that joint with Cee-Lo Green… Smh! Eminem tried to make them into a commercial group with those cheesy ass singles. Joe created Slaughterhouse! Without him there is no SH Period! This is why the group didn’t continue without him. That shit would’ve felt fake af continuing a group without the person that created it. You fake clowns would not understand something real like that though. I guarantee if they would’ve stood independent or NOT signed to Shady, Slaughterhouse would still be putting out music! Royce got back to being cool with Eminem because of Slaughterhouse, caught a new deal and chose defending Eminem’s corny ass moves with the group then defending the ones that revived his career! I f*cks with Royce too but lets call a spade a spade. Joe was the only one with the balls to call Eminem out on his bullshit while the rest stood quiet in fear of upsetting and offending Eminem! Anybody agreeing with corny sh!t is clearly a cornball themselves!
That makes absolutely no sense. Joe himself said he was upset at the Em and Shady not doing more to promote them to make more money. So Eminem put some of his own money into ideas to try and make them more marketable which including 4 grown men agreeing on the direction with the songs with Cee-Lo Green. Quit making it seem like Eminem held a gun to their head and forced them to make certain songs, when Crook himself said no one made any of them do anything they did not want to do, and Joe said he wanted more Shady involvement, but no Em beats because they weren’t making money. So which is it? What was the “No Eminem” plan to make money? That is why Em stepped away from the last album Glass House….let them rock 100% on their own and Joe wasthe one not showing up for studio time, meetings, etc. I get it, niggas don’t like Em, so everything is just always his fault when Joe is the one person who has had multiple fallouts in other situations similar to this, yet it’s never his fault. You can go down a long list of things Joe flaked on from shows, label situations, shit, even his relationships. Nigga be real and stop making this your perception of Em over what is the obvious truth.
@jakeone you mean similar to how Em has signed no less than 30 artists and all their careers died once signing to him but it’s never Marshalls fault then?
Name a label where all of their artists took off and all went gold or made big money….I’ll wait….
And one last fuck you is: Most of the dudes who did not make it on Shady were risks the label took to build them up like all labels. Stat Quo? Slim the Mobster? Cashis? You heard of them before signing to Shady? Weren’t they on a lot of projects and just didn’t take off? What about Boogie, or 50 Cent or Yelawolf or Obie? They don’t count right?
This the realest post I’ve read here…
Say what you want, but no one forced them into the booth and their heads to the microphone to record those songs or make that album. They’re four grown men. SHADY this, SHADY that….get of SHADY’s D**K. How can you call anyone but Joe Budden a cornball? He’s another Lord Jamar. Saying things for the sole purpose of getting attention, which is the only way his name gets discussed. I’m not really sure what bullshit you’re referring to and I doubt you do either. I’m pretty sure Eminem, alongside all the four members and their teams, just wanted some exposure and radio play. In order to achieve that you have to come with something else other than the underground joints they were making. The point is you weren’t there, and nor was I. Difference is you’re the one acting like you were.
Joe has a funny way about things. First and foremost, Slaughterhouse was HIS idea. He wanted the song to come together and they all clicked, and the group formed when Em wanted to sign them all as a group. Outside of Shady, did they ever discuss distro, management, how to get paid, etc? I doubt it when it was started out of love for the craft. It seems like Joe has great ideas, but his personal self conflict gets in the way of it progressing the way it should, then he either dips or blames other people. You could have NOT signed the Shady deal in the first place and tried to manage the group, or you could have been up front with how the money works before signing the deal. Instead, you went into the deal for the wrong reasons it seems, and when it did not make money, because no one is ever making a group of 4 lyricists platinum, you didn’t like the reward anymore, which was respect as one of the best groups ever. Come on Joe, you just have to admit when you are wrong and just have a problem towards commitment because you overthink things. That is why I think the Podcast works, because you have 3 other people to help balance it out. Otherwise, he might have quit on that too….smh.
False, slaughterhouse existed before Eminem and Shady. They put out a album independently first.
The internet was on fire with the Fight Club, Onslaught records – they were showing out just because they could.
Seller this shit
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14 uninformed idiots liked your post who aren’t part of Hip Hop culture. SH released 2 projects, and did multiple tours including a European tour before Eminem and Royce had even even started speaking again after a 10 year beef.
All Em did was get hand delivered the hottest group in Hip Hop at the time and fucking destroyed them.
and I suppose you were there when Eminem and Royce started speaking again? Were you with them when they met? Have you seen the text messages? FOH you were being your irrelevant self, in your irrelevant location, typing away your irrelevant thoughts.
I fuckin love it when I watch Elton wearing his diamond cock ring whilst he is balls deep in Eminem… I love sucking Elton’s spunk out of his Slim Anus!!! Marshall often says we should invite his friend round, I believe he is a doctor of some sort.. I’ve heard he has a thing for dressing up in drag…. I do love it when I have 3 big cocks in my face, especially a big black one after suffering Elton and Marshall’s little white peckers for so long!!!
Remember when Nino Bless was in the group? Actually he was on the original song then was absent when the group formed a few months later.
I’ve always been a big Budden fan…but my man, how you gonna be a vet in the game and sign a bad deal then complain about it? I understand when new cats come in and get the shaft, they don’t know no better and are just excited to get that deal. But you was already in the game and established…sounds like your business was bad. You didn’t do your homework and signed a deal you didn’t like in the end…and when you’ve been in the game already that’s nobody’s fault but your own.
Eminem the GOAT… his label sucks tho, as big as Eminem is and no one that ever signs to his label makes it big, they just release a couple albums then dip. I think EMS label has him by the balls so he always has to add some bs pop shit to their album
50 Cent was the biggest rapper in the world from 2003-06. I guess that deal was also with aftermath though.
Obie Trice?
He owns the label they don’t make him add shit he’s just a horrible artist who raps decent, but rapping is only one small aspect of song making and he sucks at all other aspects aside from rapping.
50 Cent was extremely popular and still doing big things, albums did very well, Obie Trice if I’m not mistaken went platinum also, first 2 albums did well, D12 went platinum with their first 2 and were very popular and didn’t have Em on every song to do it, Yelawolf does pretty well also with his last few projects soooo whatchu mean?!
went double wood anyway. he probably lost money signing them
Em said in an interview he put up 2mill for Slaughterhouse that he never earned back.
Joe’s just emotional, he fucks up pretty much every situation where he has to coexist with other people.
This is an underrated fact.. Just a matter of time before the podcast implodes also.. What is the over/under on that one for a 2020 downfall?
He hates:
Iggy Azalea
Eminem
Justin Timberlake
Ed Sheeran
A.N. Other white artists.
Or…maybe you all just always had shitty beats. But what do I know
He ist right about the biz, but he stays a asshole.
again… Joe doesn’t give a sh!t about fans or the culture. like everything its all about “the bag”
Just replace Budden..Simple..He was always the weakest out of all of them.Wasnt Nino Bless supposed to be S.H at one point?There are hundreds of lyricists they are cool with who could replace Joe and they wouldnt even miss a beat.You really want to throw salt in the wound?Put Em in slaughterhouse..lmaoooo..Joe would be beside himself and he’d be the new MJ crying meme..lol
Slaughterhouse had a few dope songs here and there but were never really that great. At least not as great as those four ego maniacal hot heads would have lead you to believe with their braggadocio lyrics. Someone I know went to see them live in Bmore and said the show was lame as hell, less than 50 people in the crowd and no females. Don’t get me wrong, they are obviously very skilled emcees but they all lack one of the main elements that makes a rapper successful : CHARISMA. Joe was always the weakest link in the group and no one will forget the time he got a trademark around his eye for talking shit on the Wu.
i was always pissed that they signed with em
he ruined them
1st album a classic
Joey, always the emotional one making emotionally-charged irrational decisions. You can tell he pissed off his groupmates with his constant bullshit. The guy just doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut. He should try to learn to be a better rapper instead of a wannabe podcast host.
His podcast is fire so he should stay right where he is. I’d rather hear him talking than rapping tbh.
Joe and is not huggers are in the comments here.
Does Joe take responsibility for anything in his life? The dude clearly has anger issues and can’t stay focused on projects to save his life. His ego and arrogance constantly works against him. Why hasn’t anyone around him told him this? Probably because he wouldn’t listen, get pissed, and then blame someone else. We’ve all heard comments from the Slaughterhouse crew stating repeatedly that Joe was the problem. He attached his career to a white boy that was ridiculously famous hoping he could ride off of it. Well clearly he didn’t and he continues to blame others for it. Enough of Shady Records this and Shady Records that. The artists are the ones solely responsible for their art. Shady Records supported them even when they lost money in the deal because they believed in them. But god forbid Joe gives any credit to that. He just keeps complaining because his moment to shine passed years ago. No wonder he retired from rap. He had nothing left in him and failed as it was.