Long before Machine Gun Kelly and Eminem’s war of words popped off, there was Evidence versus Slim Shady.
During a recent episode of the People’s Party With Talib Kweli, the Dilated Peoples MC opened up about his past beef with Eminem and explains how former House Of Pain MC Everlast sparked the whole thing by dissing Em on Dilated Peoples’ “Ear Drums Pop (Remix).”
“That whole thing was a big mistake,” Ev told Kweli. “That was the funniest part about my ‘beef’ with Eminem. It was a big mistake. Ah, fuck. It’s so bad. When he said, ‘I buck a .380 on ones that act shady…’ Planet Asia was there, Defari, Phil Da Agony was there … everybody was in the room.
“He didn’t come out the booth and none of us went, ‘Damn!’ It wasn’t there. Then I listened back after I realized what happened. He said ‘Hailie’ maybe a line or two later. Whatever it was, it went A to B and I was out of that. C your way out… that was me. I didn’t even understand what was happening.”
Evidence admitted he and Madchild had hung out with Eminem at an event in Los Angeles. He believes it was one big misunderstanding. Nonetheless, Em and Evidence wound up sparring for a couple of rounds.
“We were watching EPMD or something like that — me, Em and Madchild, just kicking it, watching,” he said. “He was around the scene doing a lot of the same shows we were at that time, so it wasn’t weird to me. I guess he felt like maybe we had met and been cool that I singlehandedly allowed Everlast to diss him. It wasn’t the case. It was just something he just did.
“Everlast knows, he didn’t warn any of us. He did that. He [Em] went back at me personally because of it. Getting dissed by Eminem in the prime of his career, it was not cool. The real Slim Shady was out … one of biggest moments in rap history, arguably, is the emergence of Eminem.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IGEl5w2rbs
Evidence said shortly after the beef started, it felt like everybody knew about it. In fact, a random barista at a coffee shop laughed in his face before asking him, “What are you gonna do?” Naturally, he fired back.
“I went back and wrote a rap against him … I got respect,” he said. “I thought I did good. I said some good shit. I just had some more info ’cause he famous and I knew some girl in Detroit who knew things and she snitched on a bunch of little things, and he hit me back with another diss and it wasn’t that good.”
Ultimately, Proof (RIP) and Bizarre were able to help squash it.
“That thing couldn’t work out any fucking better,” he concluded. “Nothing really happened. I got to get respect to not backing down from somebody who was Godzilla and that was fucking it.”
Revisit the “Ear Drums Pop (Remix)” below and watch the full clip above.
Probably the best diss against Em. The only reason not many people cared is because Evidence was such a small fry to Eminem. Regardless, if someone’s reading this check out Evidences shit, he’s got the best ear for beats probably ever. In fact an Em/Evidence collab would be amazing in 2019
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I love evidence, but no, in a collaboration with Em he would get absolutely washed.
’ Planet Asia was there, Defari, Phil Da Agony.” LOL. A bunch of no name backpacker rappers. He’s acting like he had Rakim, Dre and BDK with him. Evidence is a good producer and a mediocre rapper. He takes himself WAY too seriously, and thinks he is way doper than he is. Dude grew up in LA and has an East Coast black dick lodged in his throat 24/7. Him “beefing” or saying he “stood up to Em” is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. Dude is on a Razor scooter trying to play chicken with an armored truck. His little diss tracks were stupid as fuck. He was just jealous that em was making tons of money and had all the fame, while Dilapidated PooPoos sell out 1500 people venues full of white backpackers and taggers who have never heard of EPMD, which is who Ev stoke his style from. Fun fact: Evidence grew up in Santa Monica, but claims Venice. He used to be in a gang called “Southside Surf Máfia.” I couldn’t make this shit up. He grew up with Rich kids his whole life, and always was an arrogant piece of shit. Dilated used to be called “Phatlinerz.” Fucking dork. Once he started making money he no longer spoke to a lot of the people he grew up with.
So now you have to be broke to rap or something? I don’t think he ever raps about coming from poverty, so you point makes no sense.
And how do you know he was jealous?
Oh and you’re a fool.
yeah.
Peace.
Tonto.
ok.
Tonto? LOL. I obviously grew up around dude and had the same circle of friends. He said on several occasions back in the day that Em couldn’t rap, and that Em only made it due to Dre, when Ev only made it due to Cypress. Rakaa is cool as fuck though. Eat a bag of dicks, backpacker. LOL.
Kinda makes you a real live hater. Just imo. Especially if you know or knew of him, and you up here thumb thuggin. I don’t even rock w/ Ev like that. Talking about flow biting when coming to rapping is like talking about phonetics in speech…its rhetorical. Go DM him what you think; we all have the same access. Whether or not he spurned your come up(sounds like it) you gotta respect the sport, regardless of the team. Not like it, but respect it.
Nah dude. Biting is just biting. You don’t rock with dude like that but are sucking his dick all on the internet? Hahahaha. I don’t have to DM shit, I can just run into on these streets. I’m a West LA motherfucker. I just like exposing fake mitherfuckers for who they are. Dude claimed crews he isn’t form, talked a GANG of shit on Eminem, saying he couldn’t rap etc, then went back on it, when the facts are, he can NEVER fuck with Em freestyles or written. Simple. Thumb thuggin? Hahahahaha. Did I say anything about violence or fighting etc? I spoke on his history, character and the “gang” he was/is from. South Side Surf Mafia. Santa Monica. Hahahahaha. I wonder why he doesn’t claim that on tracks? Hahahahaha. Your arguments in defense of this dude all fell CRAZY short, so now I’M the problem, and “respect the game” LOL.
Kinda makes you a real live hater. Just imo. Especially if you know or knew of him, and you up here thumb thuggin. I don’t even rock w/ Ev like that. Talking about flow biting when coming to rapping is like talking about phonetics in speech…its rhetorical. Go DM him what you think; we all have the same access. Whether or not he spurned your come up(sounds like it) you gotta respect the sport, regardless of the team. Not like it, but respect it.
Put some respect on planet Asia bruh. Fuck a name….Respect the BARS!!!
What bars? Dude is ass Cosplay east coast loser. He is a UPS driver. LoL. Walk down the streets of the Bronx, or Inglewood and ask anyone if they know who the fuck that dork is. Crickets. My packages arrive fresh Your hero makes $18 and hour. Real dope.
Facts
He lucky Em even gave him the time of day. Small fry rich kid whiteboy. How does that B Real nut taste that you’ve been gargling for the last 20 years? Dude should just move to NY, with his cosplay ass.
Eminem is such corny crybaby …. he maybe the greatest technical rapper ever but he only has like 8 songs that contains any real substance … all the rest of his songs are bullshit braggadocios I’m so tough I’m so great lyrics …. mixed in with rhymes put together just because they rhyme but hold no real meaning … I fell for him just like everyone else back in the early 00’s …. but as rap as evolved and numerous mc’s with high level skill spitting substance have dropped projects …. it’s easy to see his limitations
Give me two fat tabs and three shrooms and you wont see me like fat people in steam rooms.
He is a monster. Haha. ?
Hey Em … Rakim called … he wants his style back …. and all the speed rappers are on the line …. just wanted to keep it real seeing as you feel you need to run your mouth or sneak diss other rappers if they use the Rakim style or speed rap flow … fake ass hypocrite
I got something he can squash….
Evidence and Everlast are some of the wackest white boys eva
The way this article starts acts like evidence is the biggest beef eminem has ever had, I wish these articles werent written by people who are finding out about these topics yesterday
This is Mike Perertta from Southside Surf Mafia. Who is talking shit?
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Yup. Dude is trash homie. Evidence sucks. Thanks for the support.
These dudes are boring as Fuck. Decent beats, repetitive lame music.
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Fuck eminem challenge him to a celebrity boxing match that white boy can’t fight. He sold out hip hop for pop sewage. M and M stop acting black. Your black card has been revoked. Slim shady is a perfect name for a trader. Shady white boy musical career is over. R.I.P. 2019
Lol yeah right trader wow ur trash for saying that just a troll em is the goat
Suck a dick
Your boyfriend can handle that.
Planet Asia is one of the GOATS. How dare you….
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Goat mouth never been UPS/Uber driver you mean. LOL. East coast dick all in his trachea.
IT SAYS EVERLAST ON THE FRONT PAGE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The Alchemist (Best Prod Ever) has done alot of work with Evidence and not with Eminem! Alchemist was with the Re-Up crew which was Shady Records! Why has Alchemist not produced more for Em? Cause Eminem don’t sound right!
Dude. Alchemist is the biggest biter ever. He’s not top 5. You’re a delusional fan. Primo, Showbiz, Pete Rock, Dre, Diamond D, Rza, Large professor, Neptunes. Alchemist HAS worked with em before. He’s DJed for him live on stage. You’re a new booty poo butt scrub.
Don’t forget easy moe bee
Rick Reuben?
Putting together drum sounds does not make you a producer and anyone who doesn’t think dre is one of all time greats in production don’t actually know shit about production
So Preem, Showbiz, Pete Rock don’t know shit about production? LOL. They ALL lost Dre as top 5. I guess they could learn something from you though, right? LOL
You lost all credibility when you listed Dr Dre as one of hiphop top producers LMFAO. That’s like calling Eazy E one of hiphop greatest writers. Dre is known for using no name ghost producers. Most of the chronic was Daz Dillinger. Most of DOGGYSTYLE was Daz Dillinger. Eminems biggest hits like Real Slim Shady, not Dre. DRES biggest hits that he “produced”, he usually just mastered, or did the drums lol. The melody is the important part. The last time Dre made full out beats was NWA. I love Dres old-school work, but he’s not a top producer AT ALL.
You’re a total clown, poo burg moron. Dre produced 100% of Straight Outta Compton. Top 5 albums ever in Hip-Hop. He produced Supersonic by JJ Fad. Deep Cover introducing Snoop. You’re an ass clown. Found one name on a list to nit pick. It was the wrong name. LOL. Jackass.
You’re a moron. Premier, Timebrland, Pete Rock all call him too 5 dead or alive. The nerd saying Alchemist’s buying ass is the best knows better? Hahahahaha. Ever heard of the Wholigans? Dude was in a rap group with ascot Cahn, Danno from Hawaii Five o. LOL. Total Preem biter. I like the way you attacked Dre, called him Dres repeatedly (he’s not in Blacksheep) then danced over the fact the he produced ALL of NWA, which aside from maybe PÉ, was the most influential hip hop group ever? Hahahahaha. Talking about I don’t know my hip hop? Dude. Hold these L’a like you hold Ev’s nuts in your throat. Nerd.
Hopsin easily is better than Premo and all those dudes you named. Knock madness is better than Illmatic and Paid in Full
Oh that’s right….Alchemist did Have Eminem on his album Chemical Warfare! Probably the worse song on the album!
On that garbage album that went wood? LOL
Nice diss by Evidence….but the hardest blow deliver to em was by k-rino..”fuck eminem”…..K caught a body on that one….if em heard it, he wasn’t going to respond
Fck out of here with thats trash
Evidence GASSED eminem on the searching fot Bobby Fischer joint. Em’s popularity compared to Ev’s overshadowed the issue. If social media existed the way it does now there would’ve been more discussion.
You’re a delusional moron. YOU THINK EVIDENCE CAN FUCK WITH EM LYRICALLY? Hahahahahahahahaha. Ask any member of the Wu, Rakim, Public Enemy, EPMD… the list goes on and on. They’d all laugh at the suggestion. I get it, you’re a delusional fan, and feel you can go to their backpacker ass show full of white kids, you’ll be safe. UGK would beg differ. OutKast wouldn’t agree. You’re high on crack.
Your the delusional fan. You fail to understand that music is tastes. Evidence diss to Eminem was fantastic. If you actually loved hiphop music, you’d likely love both tracks. Instead, your a typical dick riding Stan. Yes, Eminem used to be 1 of the best on the mic. But that doesn’t mean Evidence didn’t have amazing tracks too. The diss was so right. Eminem became a sellout, and went pop, something Evidence wouldn’t do.
That shit wasn’t fantastic, dork. No one heard it. He had a slow ass, fake Erick Sermon flow, and just failed miserably. Everyone laughed at his bitch ass for that track. He co produced one song on Kanye’s first album, then dissed Em and was all happy to get a response, which is all he wanted all along. The only track ANYONE other than white dorks, and his circle jerk of LA underground rappers who are kicked by white dorks, that anyone ever hear was “this way.” That only hit because of Kanye’s production and verse. You’re probably a fan of that hypocrite racist Twaweeb Kwawee. LOL. Tastes. Your mom shouldn’t have fucked your dad. Poor taste. This is that real West LA shit. Shut your bitch ass up. Fuck this B list Black Eyed Peas. You like them too, huh? Hahahahaha
Your talking about “white dorks” while defending Eminem religiously. Idk why Y’all feel so insulted that not everyone worships Eminem like you do lol. FYI, most of Eminems fan base aren’t huge hiphop heads anymore. They are white kids who listen to logic and G Eazy. Eminem had an amazing run, but if you don’t think he went completely downhill after Eminem Show, then idk what to tell you. Eminem doesn’t have the sound these days to rap over DJ Premier beats. Evidence does. That tells us something. Evidence reminds us of old-school hiphop. Eminem reminds us of Logic, and Tech N9ne, sadly.
Dude, I don’t worship Eminem at all. I actually don’t have any of his shit on any of my playlists. Dilated either. Em can actually freestyle and rap. He has made countless platinum albums. Your lack of knowledge in Hip-hop, or the dude your trying to defend is hilarious. LOL. Eminem was rapping before Logic or Tech N9ne. Hahahahaha. If he reminds you of them, you’re a poo butt loser. Hahahahaha. How wrong could you possibly get while trying to send your loser hero. Hahahahaha. I’m dying here. Just stop. He said old school hip hop, than said a dude reminds him of other dudes, when that guy was rapping first. Hahahahahahaha. The same Old School Hip-Hop heads you speak of (NY OGs, Rakim, BDK, Nas, Cool J and West Coast OGs Cube, Dre, Snoop, King Tee) all have Em on their top 5 or top 10. Ev isn’t anywhere on that list. Punk ass little kid. Grown men are talking. Go bump some Lil Xan. That geek is more relevant than Ev. Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha. Going pop is something evidence wouldn’t do?you mean COULDN’T? Hahaha. Remember the “this way” track, dick guzzler? Kanye west production and verse? A bunch of little kids singing background on the hook? Hahahahaha. Their first album had more tracks with features than not. You’re a herb. Dummy. Bitch ass little kids in skinny jeans would pink you all day. Probably arguing about how dope Drake is, citing “taste”. Hahahahaha. They tried to go pop and flopped. Hahahahahaha. Dude got his name from Will I Am. Hahahahaha. VERY UNDERGROUND!! Hahahaha
Ev can make better music than Eminem though….
Nice to see this neverbeen reminisce on the highlight of his career and existence. Getting a nod from Em. Luckily he didn’t get Já Ruled on… we’ve got Wv and Everlast vs. Eminem and Royce. Hahahahahaha. That’s Rinda Rousey vs Anderson Silva shit.
Your such a Stan bitch. Eminem used to make amazing music, but to call Evidence “never been”? Your obviously not a hiphop head. Evidences diss to Eminem is a fantastic hiphop track. People who really like the art of hiphop appreciate both sides of diss tracks, so long as it’s two talented artists. Fact is, evidence diss went harder than Eminems diss. Evidence perfectly embodies good hiphop.
Nah dude. I grew up around that dude. I’ve been in the mix of hip hop since the 90’s. You OBVIOUSLY don’t know shit about him, or hip hop in genera. Ever heard of Southside Surf Mafia? LOL. AWR? Funny. Do you know who gave him his name? How did they treat the dude who made their first jam, Kit Masta Kurt? Eat a bag of dicks buddy. You probably thing Westside Gunn is better than Ghostface. Ev’s jealous ass was talking mad shit about Em back in the day, then lied about it…
Sounds like your jealous going on the internet talking about another man. Evidence is far from washed too. He got a grammy with Kanye and made some good music within the last 20 years so sit your hating ass down clown
No, Westside Gunn cannot TOUCH ghostface! Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m talking about Evidence, not everyone he rolled with. I don’t listen to the rest of them. Fact is, evidence has good rap music. Most people who get to rap on DJ Premier beats is decent enough.
Honestly, what the hell is going on lately? I keep seeing articles about ‘someone saying something about Em’ for attention. This is stupid and major old news. Em is so irrelevant but everyone is trying to ride off his fame with one story after another. Give it a rest already clout chasers.
If he was so irrelevant than why is it such a big deal to tell a story about em? You not liking him is a huge difference from being irrelevant cause everyone still cares when you mention eminem, irrelevant would be if nobody cared at all like if they wrote an article about you
No you completely misunderstood what I was saying. I’m saying if his is (as others have tried to say). And I am a huge fan of Em. My lord learn how to read instead of insulting me.
Excuse me, random guy on the street. Yes, you. Have you ever heard of Eminem? Why, yes. Of course. How about evidence? What, you mean evidence that I’ve heard of Eminem? No. Evidence. The rapper, MC. From dilated peoples and Southside Surf Mafia Gang? What? Is that an episode of CSI or some shit? No. He’s a rapper. Never heard of him.
Popularity doesn’t eqaute to good music fool. I bet you 99.9% of millenial populace that claims to like rap have no idea who MASTA ACE is either! And Masta Ace has always been amazing. I hate when people eqaute stardom to skill in artistry. It’s bogus, and petty by your logic, Tekashi 69 would be leaps and bounds better than many amazing hiphop artists. Popularity doesn’t equate to quality.
Dude, just stop. Eminem is 1000% better than this clown. Ask Rakim, Chuck D, Snoop, Dre, Big Daddy Kane, Jay Z, shit even backpack rappers who are garbage that I’m sure you jock, like Twaweeb. They’d all unanimously say that Eminem is lyrically and technically a better rapper, and has had better music. YOUR arguments are retarded. You prefer a Prius over a Mercedes. Your taste sucks, and you’re wrong. I know groups like Dilated make you feel safe because their shows are filled with other dorky white guys who used to think they wrote graf or breakdanced. you’re just wrong on this one. Technical skill, hits, freestyles and universal acclaim don’t come anywhere near when compared. You’ve lost like your boy did. Just take a L from the Hollywood sign, still not big enough. LOL. Sorry man, in some cases your personal tastes and opinion, is WRONG. LOL. You like Big Macs better than Double Doubles, five guys or Fatburger. Cool. You’re wrong.
What beef em eats people alive
You good?
Tiejt thats trash he cant fck em
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Truth ur trash
Someone is still in desperate need of attention after putting out boring ass, sterile albums where every track sounds the same. Old Culture culture ass Evidence, who claims he is underground but got his name from Will I Am from Black Eyed Peas, who’s biggest hit was “this way”, produced by kanye with a verse from Ye, that had little kids singing in the bcakround on the He’s also always throwing up LA in pics etc, total East Coast dick rider, who completely bit Eric Sermon’s flow style. Real heads know what’s up with the guys. Their shows are full of 40 year old skateboarders turned hipsters. Hard pass.
?????But he won the back and forth, Em left Ev alone and kept going at Ja Rule,Everlast, Mariah Carey,?Nick Cannon etc. The Fuck you talking bout plus Black Eyed Peas Will I AM records are world wide and in Motion Pictures bruh, Will been making money since Ghost Writing for Easy E. You do know Em and Ev are like the same age right foh
More of why I hate Em fans. Ev was humble about their back and forth in this interview, but still getting hated on for some reason. I actually found this interesting because Ev has never addressed this situation in such detail in the past, and I’ve always wondered how he feels about it now, considering that his close friend Alchemist is Em’s tour DJ. We all know Em can spit better, give it a rest. Em still hasn’t made an album as good as The Weatherman in at least 15 years (I’d say TES and MMLP were much better but those are ancient), even if his bars are sicker his production is predominantly made up of weak mainstream pop shit now.
Kamikaze my brother. Where Em finally murders the type of production you want.
“I did pretty good, a random chick snitched on him, my diss was good. His wasn’t very good.”
1) He knows people like me remember Em’s diss being better, and i was one of like 2000 fans who even knew his face right? None of his monotonous raps then or since approach that level. Stop gas-lighting.
2) To the everpresent 16 year old parrot trying to look like they are in the know about rap by starting their comment with “i hate Eminem fans” … He’s famous on a Tyson, Trump, most globally famous people in modern history level for his culture changing raps. 99 out of 100 people worldwide are an Eminem “fan”, dipshit. If you dont like that truth tell the other rappers to make trancendent art at that level. Sorry reality doesn’t suit you.