While speaking with Vlad TV, Ja Rule offered his thoughts on white people using the n-word.

According to Queens, New York rapper Ja Rule, “there’s no way around” keeping white people, the youth in particular, from using the n-word. While speaking on the matter, Ja recalled a concert he attended where the n-word was faded out in a song, but the concert attendees, who he says were mostly white, still sang along during that particular part of the song.

“It’s Hip Hop, man,” Ja Rule said. “The kids listen to Hip Hop. They use the n-word. Point blank, period. There’s no way around it. You know what I mean? I’m at a concert the other day. Nothing but white kids at the concert. Metro Boomin is deejaying and shit, right? What does he throw on? ‘All day, nigga’…And he’s fading the ‘nigga’ part. And those white kids are singing that ‘nigga’ word like a mothafucka. You know what I’m saying? I’m up in the balcony dying laughing because I’m like ‘Yo, what do you expect them to do? What do you think they’re gonna do?’ To them it’s a song. They just singing a song, having fun. So, now what do you do? Not play that song when you have a white audience and you deejaying? I don’t know—I really don’t know how to combat this.”

Given his belief that the word “has a different meaning now,” Ja Rule explained that he’s still unsure of who should and shouldn’t use the n-word. He also used singer Justin Bieber as an example of a white artist who likely received a pass when he did use the word, because of his age.

“Let’s bring Justin Bieber into this for a great example,” he said. “He has the video that came out a few years ago. He’s singing ‘one lonely nigga’ or whatever. He got a pass. He got a pass because we all looked at it like ‘He’s a kid. He doesn’t know no better. He probably doesn’t even know the history of the word.’ But he got a pass. I don’t know why he got a pass, but he got a fuckin’ pass. It’s hard to determine who can say the word, who cannot say the word…The word has a different meaning now. It’s not the same.”

Video of Ja Rule speaking on white people’s use of the n-word, can be found below.