Vince Staples & Noreaga Reflect On Rap History After Exchanging Disses

    Vince Staples lit up Twitter as people blasted him for his comments in a Time magazine interview about 1990s Rap. Staples exchanged words with some of the detractors on the social media site, but further explained his comments with Sway in the Morning.

    “You saying that nobody else’s artform matter unless it’s in the ’90s? That’s corny,” he says. “‘Cause we all Black people trying to feed our families. You got a preference on which niggas you think need to be supported?…My whole thing was the comments of, ‘You wouldn’t be shit without ’90s Hip Hop. Nobody would know who you was.’ First off, I’m a man at the end of the day that gotta feed my family. That whole statement coming from mostly Black people is really the funniest thing about it to me ’cause it’s like I’d never wish harm or anything wrong against any Black person.”

    Staples further explains that, being born in 1993, he didn’t listen to 1990s Rap because he was too young and his parents were trying to protect him from the street life that was portrayed in the music.

    “I would hope any parents wouldn’t want their six-year-old child or younger listening to music that was carrying this kind of content that was carried in these groups that people is talking to,” he says. “My father went to prison for the majority of my life and my mother’s a full-fledged gangbanger. They was making sure I went to church. They was trying to keep me out of that. They didn’t want me to listen to people talk about shooting people and selling crack.”

    On Twitter, Noreaga joined the conversation and questioned why Staples wasn’t showing respect to his predecessors. Staples says that the Queens, New York rapper spoke without hearing Staples’ original comments to Time.

    “Nore called and apologized because he didn’t watch the interview,” Staples says. “When he watched the interview, he understood that it was no harm felt. He thought I was trying to be funny, when I told him my favorite Nore songs I’ve ever heard came in the 2000s but he said himself, his biggest hits he’s had came in the 2000s. People say ’90s Hip Hop artists as if Nas didn’t release music after the ’90s, Jay Z didn’t release music after the ’90s, which is disrespectful to them because they’ve been doing it for a very long time.”

    Noreaga called into Sway in the Morning today (October 30) to share his side of the story.

    “It was 100 percent a difference of opinion,” he says. “One thing you can’t argue with anybody is a person’s opinion. If you like Nike’s and I like adidas, there’s no way I’ma ever get you to cross over to my side.”

    Noreaga Compares Rap From Different Eras

    He compares the situation to him being a fan of Floyd Mayweather, but says to be fully educated in the sport, he has to appreciate the accomplishments of Muhammad Ali even though his glory days were before the 38-year-old rapper was born.

    “I want to be a professional boxing fan,” he says, “so every time I had a greatest of all times conversation and I said Floyd Mayweather, a lot of people who are boxing professionals always look at me and say, ‘Man, you’re crazy’ and they reference Muhammad Ali. So what I wanted to do, was I wanted to have this greatest of all time conversation. So what I did was, I went back and I studied Muhammad Ali.”

    He continues by comparing today’s mainstream Rap scene to classic Rap and how people appreciate it differently. He describes waking up and watching the boats on the marina outside his house.

    “I counted 16 boats, 16 boats, all of which was White people and each one of them was either playing Fetty Wap or Future,” he says. “You think I look down on that? You think I say, ‘Naw, man, they should be playing Rakim?’ No dude I live in this time. I appreciate this music.”

    Noreaga says that he is glad Staples is part of today’s music scene and is glad to serve as a mentor to him.

    “I appreciate Vince Staples,” he says. “After listening to his music, he’s one of the guys that I want to lead in this new generation. I want him to be one of the leaders of this new school. I’m gonna support him….He won’t be 22 for the rest of his life, but guess what? Here’s the beauty part about it, I was 22 before. I understand his attitude. I understand his approach. I understand his feelings, so me being an elder, I feel like this should happen more.”

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    126 thoughts on “Vince Staples & Noreaga Reflect On Rap History After Exchanging Disses

    1. Amazing how fast it gets straightened out when niggas actually TALK instead of typing shit on social media. When will niggas learn to leave that shit alone.

      1. Let me say one thing when the youth do not respect there elders there alway going to be miss guided and speak about things they don’t know about. To add to survive it any ghetto is not easy to see 40 years old. So it’s live young and die fast bs. Who in there right mind want to die young with nothing ? At the same time all this shit going on in the black community is really a mind fuck. If you do not respect your self by getting knowledge of self as a black man or black woman or your history as people or culture you are lost everything you built for yourself if it was right or wrong it will be taken. If the youth do not respect anybody they are going to kill at will .

    2. See I was right on that last article about this all these old black people bringing us young blacks down because of pride in a past era. If we don’t like 90s hip hop don’t ay i’m ignorant or dumb just understand and respect that times are different. stop being old crabs in a bucket. 90s babies are just a new wave. If 90s hip hop never existed we still could have lil wayne or drake they might just have different names or something but to totally take credit for another man’s career is arrogant and selfish!

      1. Its not what you say its how you say it and Vince couldve saved himself a lot of trouble by keeping that in mind.

    3. Again, we understand what vince was saying but he couldve said it differently. The way he said it made it seem like 90s rappers are just a bunch of old niggas.

      1. No matter how he said it if a nigga say he don’t like 80s rock yall aint gon talk shit but since a NIGGA say something that’s on his mind all you old trolls start hating.

      2. Why bring up rock, though, when it has nothing to do with rap? Rock artists constantly pay homage to those that came before them. Hating? No one’s hating at all. Expand your horizons for once.

      3. music is music I have never read an article where some old white man was mad at a young white man for not liking 90s rock so why is it so common in the black community for old niggas to say to young niggas we don’t respect old music? That’s all my dad says “you don’t know nothing bout this” I’m like nigga fuck that slow sounding low mic quality simple beat music. I want to hear some J. Cole or Kendrick not LL Cool J.

      4. Why is Jay-Z still around and everyone else except Nas’ career Dead? because they left that old sounding shit in the past.

      5. @ 90s Nigga, you should change your name to 2010s Nigga since you want to keep shitting on the old school. Tell me this, what drum beat did J Cole sample for his song “Wet Dreamz”? “Impeach the President”. What song did Cole sample for “Land of the Snakes”? “Da Art of Storytellin” by OutKast. What about “Forbidden Fruit”? “Electric Relaxation” by Tribe, which sampled Ronnie Foster’s “Mystic Brew”. Who’s voice did Kendrick sample for his “Mortal Man” interview? Tupac. Which veteran rapper made an appearance on Kendrick’s “m.A.A.d. city”? MC Eiht. If J Cole and Kendrick can show respect to those that paved the way, then you can, too.

      6. you idiot J. Cole and Kendrick weren’t born in the 90s. Us 90s niggas grew up listening to lil wayne and kanye. And you’re also an idiot because sampling is not paying respect it’s reusing what you’ve heard before. I don;t respect samples i like the way the sound especially if i don’t know the sample. not saying don’t learn from the past but don’t act like the 90s which is 25 years ago was hip hops greatest time ever because there was good and bad music made then just like good and bad music is made today. You’re just a 90s fanatic.

      7. Wow, you’re either trolling or you’re just stupid. 1) Sampling IS paying respect. Because you respect an artist and sound so much that you reuse them for your song. 2) The reason you don’t hear about older rock artists complain about younger rock artists paying homage is because those younger artists are actually paying homage to those older artists. 3) “slow sounding low mic quality simple beat music” LOL have you even listened to some of the music out now? You got those simple ass DJ Mustard/trap beats that are always on 80/90 BPMs and sounds like they were made on a demo version of FL Studio. 4) Not all 90s babies think the ignorant way you do as there are 90s babies who love and respect 90s rap and there’s rappers born in the 90s who pay homage to that music (Joey Bada$$). There’s no excuse to be ignorant in the internet age. Don’t speak for others, not yourself.

      8. I’m not reading all you bull shit but 1 question. If a sample is paying respect why do people sue over samples? I think you’re too sentimental…. I don’t care about old CDs I buy new ones.

      9. People sue over samples because usually, either the artist didn’t get permission to use the sample or didn’t pay properly for it. And nobody buys CDs in 2015. Ever heard of ITunes?

      10. It’s not respect to copy without paying? or Copying is respectful so they pay? I’d rather get my own drum piano and guitar and make my own music. Fuck samples that shit is for new niggas just new niggas don’t get involved!

      11. You’re supposed to pay for samples, that’s how the law works. I highly doubt you can play any instruments, so cut that shit. Unfortunately for you, everyone samples. Newer artists are constantly sampling all the time. It will always be a part of hip-hop, no matter what you think.

    4. The problem is that younger folks dont have a great appreciation for older music, or nor do they understand the impact of rappers before them. Some do, most dont. Before the 90’s rap music wasn’t as mainstream and not widely accepted. They disregard the older people who cultivated the art form.

      1. I think I hit the nail on the head with that one Don. If we just kept reverting back to our ancestors for everything then I want my 40 acres because my great great grandma was a slave.

      2. Again, you’re missing the point and are just spewing out nonsense. If you’re in music, you’re supposed to pay homage to artists who came before you.

      3. We are not going to have new people every 10 years paying homage to the people that came out or 20 years before them. YALL ARE CRAZY and I’m tired of yall saying “spew” that sounds so stupid.

      4. “We are not going to have new people every 10 years paying homage to the people that came out or 20 years before them.” Yes, we will and it will never stop because you don’t want to.

    5. I don’t even know if people are saying the young artist or just young people in general don’t appreciate old music. Either way new music is new because we don’t just remake what we already heard. Why do old niggas think that we have to listen to they shit to make our own shit? They make these comments not knowing it slows down our progress as a people. White people don’t say you didn’t pay respect to the great Elvis before you made that rock song. tf wrong with niggas?

      1. Nobody says you have to like music of the past, but pay homage and respect it. Learn from history so you can build the future. Artists in other genres of music pay homage to the ones who came before them. Why is it so hard for rap to do the same thing?

      2. “new music is new because we don’t just remake what we already heard.” Then why is 90% of popular rap now is the same Autotuned, 808 trap shit about money, drugs, and bitches?

      3. There’s a whole generation of musicians that have never heard a song from some of the old composers or musicians. Music is not a Hierarchy it is a form of personal expression. If I want to say fuck the past I’m doing everything with a new sound I have the right to declare my work as new product just as the 90s hip hop that came after 80s hip hop and today’s rap artist don’t have to pay homage if they don’t want to it’s rap it’s gangster fuck that paying respect shit respect this bullet

      4. And too Really? when I said we I meant ME. I’m on the come up yall just don’t know who I am because this is an Anonymous post. hehe

      5. Young people want the torch but don’t value the tradition and older people don’t wanna pass the torch unless young people value the tradition.

      6. 90s Nigga, if you honestly believe the bullshit you spew, then you’re never gonna make it in life. It’s mandatory to respect and pay homage to the past when doing music. Many artists have done this, especially those of this generation. Those that don’t have short careers. So you’re an inspiring rapper? So what do you have to say that million of other rappers haven’t said? Because that gangster shit is played out.

      7. “I’ve been all the way across the country recording music in the best studios in Cali” Which is it, the country or California? Your sentence contradicts itself. In the words of Hova, we don’t believe you, you need more people.

    6. @90s Nigga: You’re a bitch. 80s and 90s rappers paved the way for you “young niggas”. That’s why you should respect them. You don’t have to re-create their sound, but respect your elders , you bitch!

      P.S. I’m young too. And I don’t give fuck about you other young niggas’ shitty auto-tune music.

      1. you a bitch and you can suck an aids cock you weeny idgaf about old niggas that dgaf about me and id put a hole in your head if you tried me so fuck you bitch

      2. Elementary insults and threatening violence over the internet. Yeah, you’re so tough. *sarcasm* You’re all bark and no bite.

      1. What you know about grown man shit? You a teenage white boy typing on your MacBook Pro your mom’s bought you FOH!

    7. rip to pac and big but they dont care about nobody but they fam and they self one of 90s rappers care about me so id never show them respect. You get respect when respect is given. I’m nt gon dick ride so old 90s rapper nigga that would care if i was gone 2maro. I’m too real for that.

      1. You dumb FUCK, so you think Vince Staple is gonna give a fuck if you die tomorrow? He don’t even know you exist dumb bitch!

    8. Tgese yung imbeciles mad cuz tgey coud never make it in tge 90s, you actually had to have talent. Your favorite rapper couldnt nake.it in tge 90s and you’re hating haha

      1. Damn, judging by your spelling you must be from Chicago. But it’s cool. Thank you and we appreciate you having an opinion, Tyrone.

    9. If old niggas run around begging and pleading for respect, how can a young man respect that? Truthfully, all I see are a lot of salty old guys still trying to play cool in a young man’s game. The smart guys like Dre and Jay-Z have already made their fortunes and are smart enough to let the young ones shine. Losers like Nore and Raekwon still act like they never made 20 dollars lol.

      1. Wow, you just went full retard. Never go full retard. I don’t see anyone begging/pleading for respect, just a couple of ignorant fools who forgot their history. Guess what? Jay Z and Dre are always working with younger artists and so are Nore and Raekwon and those artists respect them.

      2. SMFH, can you read? Seriously, can you read? I said Dre and Jay-Z let young ones shine. In no way does that sentence imply that they’re hiding in a hole never to be seen by the rap community. Old heads take a lot of jabs at young niggas, and if you have no idea what I’m talking about, then pay a little more attention not just to rap lyrics but to rap interviews as well. Judging by your comprehension, I thing you a younger nigga than me.

      3. I understood perfectly what you said, but it’s still a dumb ass comment. Guess what? Young dudes take jabs at older dudes as well (like what you and 90s Nigga below are doing right now).

      4. SMFH, well yeah young niggas are gonna jab back when old heads make old comments. I’m gonna guess by your dumb ass comments that you’re an old head but aren’t that smart. So you want young rappers to constantly pay homage to old niggas over and over and over? In what music genre are the old heads so adamant about being in the spotlight?

      5. Old heads only make jabs when the younger ones make dumb ass comments. If anyone’s not smart, it’s you. I’m an actual 90s baby, so miss me with that old head bullshit. And yes, I do want younger rappers to pay homage to the ones that came before them (I didn’t say anything about constantly doing it over and over) because that’s just what you do. This happens a lot in rock, R&B, and many other music genres.

      6. So you’re not a dumb old head, you’re a dumb 90s baby. You’re still a dumb nigga to me lol. Well when you become a successful rapper, feel free to spend a third of your time paying homage to old niggas since sucking another man’s dick is so important to you. I personally think that’s retarded, but if you like smacking your lips on foreskin, then continue to do so.

      7. Resorting to weak insults and gay jokes. Yeah, that doesn’t make you look dumb. Paying homage is retarded. Guess what? Many rappers have payed homage to those that came before them, including your favorites, so you’re basically insulting nearly everyone in hip-hop. You fail big time, E-thug.

      8. In your very first post to me, you called me a retard and set the tone for our conversation. Just following your lead. Doesn’t make me look dumb, makes you look like the week teenager you are for talking shit then complaining when your feelings get hurt lol. Paying homage is fine, I never said it wasn’t. Then again, your reading skills are pathetic. Spending as much time, hand work and saliva as YOU want to pay homage to an old nigga is time wasting and in your case, gay. Buy hey, do you.

      9. I never called you retarded, though. You started this shit, the only thing I did is correct your stupid original comment. You’re the only one making yourself look dumb. You look like the weak teenager talking shit. My feelings hurt? LOL not even. You might want to look in the mirror for that. You just contradicted yourself because you said that paying homage is retarded. I never said someone has to constantly pay homage, so you might have to work on your reading skills. And you made another gay joke, once again, making yourself look dumb. Just quit.

      10. Every post you’re constantly being a bitch and taking jabs at me instead of discussing in a civilized manner. I gave an opinion and you immediately called it retarded. Point out what post I said paying homage is stupid? I said old niggas need to stop begging, and I stand by that. Look, it’s obvious the more we talk that your role here is nothing more than to react to me. Even your name is a reaction to my post. Playtime’s over, son. You, young boy, will stop experiencing the privilege of me responding to you. But you love my dick so much you’ll try to get something out of me lol. Mark my word lol.

      11. “Every post you’re constantly being a bitch and taking jabs at me instead of discussing in a civilized manner.” Dude, that’s all you right there. Yes, I did call your comment stupid because it is. You said paying homage was stupid on your fourth and fifth comment. No old dudes are begging, so you were wrong. “the more we talk that your role here is nothing more than to react to me.” You’re still responding, so actually, that’s you right there. You’re the only one playing and I guarantee you that I’m older than you. And why are you talking about dicks, you closeted homo? You keep shooting yourself in the foot with each comment.

    10. When the most popular music now comes from Drake, Future, and Fetty Wap, yeah, I’ll stick to the 90s. Then again, Kendrick Lamar and J Cole exist, so there is hope for this generation.

    11. I BUY NEW CDs FUCK OLD CDs All the old sentimental music bitches talkin shit. Fuck all yall favorite rappers! I’m trying to murder these niggas! I’m trying make sure nobody ever heard of those niggas!

    12. Man I don’t even care anymore. Old dudes young dudes…there’s no genuity in the game anymore anyway so it’s whatever..but as a whole the youngins don’t compare to those of the past..I don’t disrespect them but their music has no substance in it..they didn’t go through enough to even have that type of substance to it..so if you’re just money driven that’s cool dead ass idc..but overall if your music doesn’t hit the soul then it’s just not comparable to the likes of the greats.

      1. Yall had greats we have greats stop being a crab the people in our generation inspire millions. If your soul can’t connect to new music maybe you should do some soul searching. I can listen to old music and appreciate it and new music and appreciate it so why does it matter so much I don’t have to pay homage to every talented mutha fucka. them old niggas got yall on that dick riding shit strong. Life long fan looking ass nigga. if a nigga dead or fell off move on to the next artist we can’t stare at Michelangelo’s David forever.

      2. Rap isn’t even about being the best MC. It’s about expression. If the art was really about who is the best a writing bars then Drake would not have a number one. All this competitive talk from old people that can’t even rap anymore is preposterous. I’d have to say if you want to claim greatness over a whole generation of artist you can only be an arrogant fool or a power hungry hypocrite.

      3. You really are thickheaded. You’re the one being a crab, being close-minded when it comes to music. It’s common sense to pay respect and homage to those who came before you so you can be better. The worst artists out there don’t do that. And rap IS about being the best MC, only stupid ass pop music fans think that. You make all 90s babies look bad with your arrogance and lack of knowledge/logic.

    13. 90s Nigga doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. Yes, there is dope music out now from great artists of this generation (K. Dot comes to mind), but the 90s is without a doubt the best time for hip-hop. It was at its creative peak and a lot of classic records that are still remembered by everyone were released during that time. Of course you’re supposed to pay homage to and respect greatness.

    14. Vince staples comments give me the visuals of a someone running down a steep rocky hill…niggas can sound intelligent in 16 bars but can speak a bit of sense in a Paragraph…

    15. 2090 will be a great year for hip hop. but if we keep the mind set of the old niggas hip hop will die from suicide. think you stupid old niggas are giving our brand a bad name. PROGRESS means MOVE FORWARD. why would we say the past is better than the future that’s just depressing and stupid.

      1. Please. Hip-hop will never die. Paying homage to the past isn’t gonna hurt anyone. The ones giving hip-hop a bad name is you young dummies. You want people to forget about the past, which will never happen. There’s nothing stupid or depressing about saying music of the past is better than now, especially when artists of now are making the same stupid shit over and over AND THAT’S HOLDING HIP-HOP BACK.

    16. Please. Hip-hop will never die if it’s paying homage to the past. If anyone’s giving hip-hop a bad name, it’s these wack ass rappers of now making the same stupid shit over and over. That’s not progress, that’s devolution. That’s depressing and stupid, not saying the past is better than now. And you’re the salty one who keeps commenting and saying stupid shit.

    17. Everybody acts like hip hop doesn’t involve talking about money bitches cars cloths chains watches and drugs but in reality that’s where it started from. NWA didn’t only talk about politics they were just as much sinful in they music as today’s rappers so chill out with that we were the pure ones shit. we are the offspring of the fatherless. 90s niggas have gone through so much so young you old folks don’t get it. Our generation speaks from the heart and the world is burning! music sounds so evil and sexual because that is our real world. Accept our shit or we don’t need to pay homage. it’s just different

    18. Dads always think they son won’t out do their legacy. We just started impacting this world with hip hop. Let us work stop hating old niggas

    19. Why do people only focus on the bad rappers of our generation? in the 90s there was people that were trash but they made hip hop so what is so different about today that old people didn’t understand back then? THEY ACT LIKE YOUNG THUG IS THE ONLY RAPPER. There are plenty of talented you people like VINCE STAPLES that are impacting the state of hip hop. k dot cole drizzy and big sean pay homage but that doesn’t mean they have to do that shit. they could still of made it without bowing down to some old pimp.

      1. Damn Vince give it a rest…you won’t sound any smarter by arguing a baseless point…its like how can you even talk when all the fashion is from the 80s and 90s ? You niggas wouldn’t know your left nut from the right if not for what came before…

    20. “Everybody acts like hip hop doesn’t involve talking about money bitches cars cloths chains watches and drugs but in reality that’s where it started from. NWA didn’t only talk about politics they were just as much sinful in they music as today’s rappers so chill out with that we were the pure ones shit. we are the offspring of the fatherless. 90s niggas have gone through so much so young you old folks don’t get it. Our generation speaks from the heart and the world is burning! music sounds so evil and sexual because that is our real world. Accept our shit or we don’t need to pay homage. it’s just different.” You obviously don’t know your history because hip-hop didn’t start like that. Most of these rappers now have never been through a struggle. Only speak for yourself, not others. “Dads always think they son won’t out do their legacy. We just started impacting this world with hip hop. Let us work stop hating old niggas” You’re the only one hating here as no one’s hating on the entire generation of now, only the wack ones getting popular and entitled babies like you. “Why do people only focus on the bad rappers of our generation? in the 90s there was people that were trash but they made hip hop so what is so different about today that old people didn’t understand back then? THEY ACT LIKE YOUNG THUG IS THE ONLY RAPPER. There are plenty of talented you people like VINCE STAPLES that are impacting the state of hip hop. k dot cole drizzy and big sean pay homage but that doesn’t mean they have to do that shit. they could still of made it without bowing down to some old pimp.” The wack rappers back then didn’t get any shine and were laughed off unlike now where it’ll be considered hating. Those rappers you named wouldn’t have made it without the older generation who put them on, so they have to pay homage/respect to them. “I win haha” No, you lost.

    21. GRRR! I’m saying this too many old niggas think they can just get respect from me and I look at them like when I was at my worst they weren’t the ones I was listening to. In the prime times of my development I didn’t go to old music I went to new music. I learned from what’s going on today more than the time before me so if anybody deserves my respect it’s the current generation. 90s 80s 70s 60s don’t get no love from me because it didn’t do anything for me. If you grew up without a parent you would understand. Being born in the 90s you were introduced to a new style of living people don’t fight no more its guns. Saying we don’t go through shit is for naive mfs that don’t bang no more. I’m over 20 and I don’t care who was the president in 94 I can about 2016 election. IF WE STAY IN THE PAST THE FUTURE WILL BE MEANINGLESS

    22. You just can’t stop commenting, can you? Nobody cares about you, you’re irrelevant, making a bunch of empty statements that don’t mean anything in the long run. Those rappers you listen to? They listened to the ones that came before them. Expanding your music tastes isn’t gonna hurt you. Of course they deserve respect since they made classics. Your last sentence is WAY off. If you don’t learn from the past, how can you build a future?

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