After Joell Ortiz released his version of the track “Big Pun’s Back,” 
Pun’s widow Liza Rios isn’t happy with the results. In a Facebook post, she wrote that she considered it “disrespectful” for the Slaughterhouse rapper to claim he’s the next Big Pun.
“A lot of people are asking how I feel bout the Joell Ortiz BIG PUN is Back,” she wrote. “Well it was a good attempt on Joell Ortiz part BUT a BIG PUN he will Never be! Found it a bit disrespectful that he would say he the next Christopher Lee Rios to say the least.. With no regard to Me and My family especially My Son PUN’S Only Son which should Be the ONLY one to Claim that BIG PUN is Back.”
She continued by reiterating that it’s her son’s “birthright” to continue Pun’s legacy. “[L]et me tell u something if Puns tourch is being passed donwn then it will be to his Son it’s His Birth right Not Joel..,” she continued. “And the fact that he didn’t even ask to begin with to see if I was kool ‘Passing the tourch’ is Disrespectful!! Point blank.. At the end of the Day Only how I feel matters cuz that’s My Husband My Name My Tourch to Pass!!”
Joell already responded on Twitter by dismissing her tirade. “Shout to Nicole, Pun’s Sister and MaMa Pun for the kind words. GOD will judge by my intentions. Im good with that,” he wrote. “No matter how good your intentions may be there will always be some negativity if you take action. still gotta do what you feel is right.”
Shout to Nicole, Pun’s Sister and MaMa Pun for the kind words. GOD will judge by my intentions. Im good with that.
No matter how good your intentions may be there will always be some negativity if you take action. still gotta do what you feel is right.
Stupid bitch
If shes a bitch then I guess your Mother, grandmother, aunts, cousins, and sisters are bitches too!!!
^Yeah, they are. The fuck you want?
Damn thats fucked up that all the women in your family are bitches. You seem proud of that well at least your honest for whatever its worth!!
SUMONE TELL THIS BITCH TO GET BACK IN DA KITCHEN B4 I SMACK HER WIT THE MAC 10 PUNISHER STYLE
If shes a bitch then I guess your Mother, grandmother, aunts, cousins, and sisters are bitches as well!!!
bitter ass women.
havent been paid in a while? looking to get some bank. lets make a hiphop headline! ( too easy now adays, its alll trash)
way bigger frish to fry, this is just a song, the pun family needs to fall back,, the man they are defending gave himself to the world, expect ppl to embrace it.
bitter or not joell is not Pun and had no right to do that no matter how you flip it.
she must’ve not heard, “Happy Birthday Pun,” by Joell.
Word.
I agree with Pun’s wife. Joell has no business claiming such nonsense. It’s up to the fans to put titles on you- when you do it yourself it is straight up wack. Its like calling your own album a classic when it just drops. Let the fans judge in ten years if that shit is classic/ Joell is just another insecure rapper who craves legendary status but isnt there yet.
Kill Yaself at 2:26am ….. maybe his widow is insecure.. its a song. So if he didn’t do the song and everyone else did a Big L, Pac, Biggie…song. She’d be on twitter yelling Joelle Ortiz is a pussy because he is Puerto Rican and he didn’t do a tribute song to Pun…. you damn’d if you do and damn’d when you do.
This female want money if you are going to exploit his name. She wants to get paid. I can’t blame her. Big Pun is dead. She and his Kids are still alive & Require MONEY to live. Outcast used Rosa Park name as a title of their song. Her family sued. They won MONEY! Pun’s widow wants money. He needs to break her off some MONEY!
Well she could always do the unthinkable and get a job?
This article is about Joell using Big Pun name without permission. Keep to the subject matter at hand. He was wrong.
i’m cool with this man. -iz
is it joells fault lil puns wack?….
Atleast listen to the kid first!
That may be true what she said, but Joell has respect for Pun and just making sure nobody forgets him, a lot of artists do that with Pac and Biggie, not many puerto ricans is as lyrical as Joell. He just honoring your man ma, chill.
yet, Liza, it wasn’t disrespectful for you to air out your husbands business about spousal abuse years after he passed away and he’s not alive to rebut your claims?
Kettle meet Pot.
You must have not seen the video of Pun slapping her around. Without a doubt Pun was kicking her ass there would be nothing to rebut. Like i always say do research before you speak!!
i guess tupac, biggie, and big L’s people didnt care about rick ross and meek, jadakiss and uncle murda, and ron browz songs about their dead relatives being back
probably not
Shit here we go everybody gonna expect
Afeni, Snoop & Fatal (Pac Back)
Violleta, Diddy & Kim (Biggie Back)
Large Pro, Cam & Ma$e (Big L)
to fucking protest… I think not!
What’s next Proof Back, Eazy Back & Run Back etc then we gonna have D12, Lil E & DMC upset… Move the fuck on bitch you didn’t love Pun like R.Pgh pretty much put it you shitted on Chris when he was gone!
That bitch is fucking gassed. Pun didn’t even like your ugly ass. Go get pistol whipped.
JOELL ORTIZ! #SLAUGHTERHOUSE
Hahahahahahahahahah
“Go get pistol whipped.” so wrong here, but LMAO!!!
Just cause other artist have remade 2PAC & Biggie songs doesn’t make it right either. I believe that if Pac and Pun were alive they wouldnt fuck with more than half these artists. So with that said Ms. Rios is right it is disrespectful cause there will never be another Pun.
Joell is one of the few rappers who regularly gives shout outs to pun for his main source of inspiration, if Pun could have heard that track, I really doubt he would have minded. Would she rather him be forgotten? Although I do agree Joell isn’t even close to Pun as an MC, I hated all those Tupac Back remix tracks.
Liza Rios needs publicity. Same chick who was on TV and radio talking about Pun used to whoop her ass, and how he wasn’t sh*t, now cares about somebody else using his name. Same chick that was expecting Fat Joe to support her and her kids because Joe and Pun were tight instead of getting off her ass and working.
Joell– there is no god, asswipe, and your music sucks. Stop jocking your superiors and learn something about the REAL Latino history all around you.
That you suck is totally disrespectful to music, period.
BUT Big Pun’s second album was a fucking abortion too, so ya’ll are even.
Shut up you damn spic. Go cross the border and get decapitated already.
y when chino xl made da same reference she said nothin (on poisen pen album)…even nino bless said “it’s bless kid i do da undoable/went to da X spit n made PUN’S mural move” n she said nothing.now joell sign to shady she open her mouth, bytch is just lookin 4 another pay check sense f.joe aint helpin her ugly ass no more…FYI just cause he’s pun’s son,it only makes him his son not a rapper..most rappers kids aint no where near as good as da father n e way
Ahahahaha, this bitch has no job and begging Fat Joe for money because she said she’s homeless but she has a computer and time to twitt?
Go get a job you fat lazy kunt!
Sounds to me like she’s pissed that she didn’t get a check. Hip Hop is no one’s birthright. Just cause she cracked her legs open for Pun doesn’t make her an authority on his legacy. If moms is good with it and gave her blessing, wifey should shut the fuck up.
Ol girl need to chill
now i know why pun beat this bitch
Is she not the same wife that was going on about how pun beat her? Besides-she clearly missed the point of the track and her reaction and clear ignorance-even in her comments actually gives insight in terms of who she is. Oh and had JOELL said ‘Heres some money’ this would not have been news
Any money Joell has goes ** SHOULD ** go to pay child support…
Does it, fat boy?
Why must he contribute ANYTHING financially? He didnt make them kids or marry her. She should invested and spent that money wisely. She broke looking for a quick 15mins or a VH1 special. GTFOH Liza Rios………R.I.P PUN!!
id be mad too joell had a spark when he first started but hes fucking corny trash now
haha who does she think she is, shes the bitch that got her ass beaten by pun, and if “big pun’s back” he would beat her again for this.
lol she should be fucking happy joell is keepin Puns memory alive dumb bitch
http://www.youtube.com/user/305ilovemia#p/a/u/1/VRz1F72j828
NEW MAD IZM KNOWLEDGE REIGN SUPREME VISIONS
DONT f**k WITH ME >>> DREAMS MONEY CAN BUY
Shame she cannot spell TORCH. There is no “u” you half wit.
Instead of trying to OWN his memory, she should be happy Joell thinks enough of PUN to honor him like they did Tupac. by referring to him as the greatest. She need to stop acting spoiled and entitled and thank Joell for making him and her relevant, which they’re not right now. AND honestly Joell is better lyrically. so enjoy the free publicity and be thankful people are talking about Pun positively.
thiss is some of the stupidest shit
I ever read.
Joell is dogshit– about half his first album was “OK,” and he’s been horrible since. Keep your own name in your mouth, jackoff, and pay your CHILD SUPPORT.
FUCK BIG PUN!
Fuckface Tyson come say that in the Bronx where the man is still a Legend
Get snuffed you raggedy ass boat hoe
” take some Big and some Pac, mix em up in a pot, sprinlke lil bit Big L on the top, what the fuck do ya Got? you got the realest and illest killas, tied up in a Knot ”
Dont see that Fat Fuck Pun’s name in there anywhere, he was garbage!
This is why white guys don’t date puerto rican and dominican women. We would rather date mexican women because their brains are better. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are mixed with black and it slows their brains down. It also gives them an immature wannabe hard ass attitude that is unnattractive.Hey here’s an idea, STOP ACTING LIKE THUGS AND MAYBE YOU CAN IMPROVE! White people grow out of the thug phase at the age of 18, what the hell is taking you so long?
Shut the fuck up.
EAT A SHITTY DICK YOU DUMB FUCK FACE BASTARD. Black dudes rather date Puerto Ricans & Dominicans because Mexican chics have NO ass..LOL
But you stayed in the ignorant phase???? Speaking for all people as if you are omniscient. Kill ya Self you peeon (sic) know-nothing
fuck black bitches dumb jungles whores white girls all day
I think Marcus is right. Not to repeat what was said but Mexican women seem to fall off quicker than Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. And then theres the thing of having no ass.
Shut cha racist ass up. It’s dumb women in every race. I’m tired of y’all punk ass racist crackers coming on this site talking bs. Y’all probably some pussies jerking off at home and probably can’t get no real life pussy.
Atl2Trill u say u tired of racists then u call out crackers…. im tired of hypocrits
Joel doesnt think hes “the next pun” all these tracks are like a shout out to legands…his wife shout pipe down its not that big a deal
This bloated fat bitch just looking for a check and a lil 5 min’s of fame who care’s how u feel at the end of the day Joell is doing something postive by paying homage u fat goya bean! stay a baby momma it anit like u putting out record’s.
If shes a bitch then I guess your Mother, grandmother, aunts, cousins, and sisters are bitches?
im not trying to stick up for rip7 but your argument is false.Just because he called one woman a bitch doesnt mean he his calling all woman bitches. Your reply doesnt make sense cause he is not calling his mom,sister or aunt a bitch just the fat bitch that thinks she has any relevance in the legacy of big pun….
WTF is she talking about??
Joell Ortiz is the next rapper no one will give a f*ck about. A change should be made to the 2nd Amendment (Declaration Rap Edition) banning him from even speaking Big Pun’s name.
i think you mean first amendment dumbass..
* 1st amendment haha
if i was Joell id smack that bitch up……oh wait hold on didnt Pun already pistol whip that hoe?
song sucked anyways and i swear slaughterhouse is the most pussy-twitter made group of all time niggas stay on twitter more than a hoe
UHHH HELLO WHAT ABOUT TUPAC BACK??
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LATINO FAT BURRITO BITCH
FUCK JOEL
IF YOU BABY PUN IS 10000000000000000000000x TIMES BETTER THAN JOEL. HE CAN’T FUCK WITH PUN, NOR HIS SON.
hahaha. thanks for the laugh about Pun’s son is better hahahah
Joell Ortiz is the best rapper to release one these songs with (name) Back, but it’s still a bad song and it is disrespectful saying they are the new Big Pun or Biggie or Tupac when in reality their not even close. Just leave their legacies alone unless theirs unreleased material to be brought to the public and those songs should be made with producers that the person worked with frequently.
A big butt doesn’t equal a good wife or mother. And who is this guy calling ignorant? I have facts to back my statements, all you have is ignorant teenage slang. The sad thing is you’re probably 30 years old. Here’s an idea, LEARN HOW TO SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH! Or just blame the white man for all your problems and never improve.
I called you ignorant and just because you can name a few examples from the total population of the globe does not make it fact it just makes it your dumb ass opinion and an ignorant generalization you use to compensate for your wanting humanity.AND THE WHITE MAN NO LONGER HAS THE POWER OR INFLUENCE TO WARRANT ANY BLAME FROM ME OR THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ANY REPARATIONS FOR MY PEOPLE for thier past crimes. Wheres the slang in that?!!?
Man all these nigga are just trying to use these death rapper to make money point blank, it’s one thing if you come out with a song giving that nigga respect for what he have done, but there is another thing when everbody see you just using that nigga name to bring attention to yourself and your music man, its fake and disrespectful and there is no good intention in that period.
Damn why people always complaning tha nigga trying to show your deceased husband some love and you complaining. She always complaining about something he got the right to rep pun if he want to she should be happy for that
Are people taking this literally? I believe these songs are just the emcees showing respect to one of their favorite rappers. Not to be disrespectful, but I’m not sure this woman really cares that much other than it gets her name on a few hip-hop websites. From what she has told us is that Pun use to physically abuse her; to me she should be against that and helping out with young girls experiencing this pain. Instead of her lashing out at rappers who use her late husband’s name in a song.
Whiny-ass Joell should stick to what he knows, like eating too many White Castle and blaming ** EVERYONE ** else for his problems.
It’s never, like, you know what?
I suck.
But Joell does, he’s CORNBALL, and the sooner he admits to it and gets his GRE or a real job (try UPS?) the better for all of us.
** PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT JOELL **
you know what i read from your comment?
hate hate hate hate hateiwishiwashimhate hate hate
comment on his music because you can know it, but stop bitchin about his life that you only wish you knew
THS BITCH IS THE SAME ONE THAT PUT OUT THAT VIDEO SHOWNG PUN GUNBUTTNG HER ASS!!!!STFU U WASNT THE ONLY ONE INFLUENCED BY PUN, THE DUDE WAS PAYIN’ HOMAGE AND DOES HIS SON EVEN RAP?!
check the typos in this article HHDX.
Keep eating Joell, you’ll be Pun-fat soon enough.
Otherwise, stick to keeping Em’s cock in your cornball mowf. You had a hot 10 seconds on the “The Brick” and you been straight ass ever since.
And you keep hating you clown ass buffoon.
joell even corrected himself in a freestyle in 2007, when he said “when i rhyme they say that i bring pun back…hold up bring pun back??? there will never be another big pun boy there was only one”
what is this bitch retarded?
she talks about disrespect and then she does the same to joell ortiz (which joell was actually trying to pay tribute)
and she is so self-centered “only how i feel matters” noone gives the fuck how u feel…even though i dont agree with all the (name) back, bitches shouldn’t be trippin like they are something
She just wants some money. Nothing else but that.
Joel Ortiz = Spanish for CORNBALL.
Hey Joell, how’s that solo career coming along? Anyone signing your fat ass because you’re such a money making entertainment machine?
yeah, acutally he just signed with Steve Rifkin’s SRC/Universal Motown as solo artist. And he’s on Shady/interscope with Slaughta. I know dumb shits like you don’t know how to count so that’s 2 major deals. ahahahahahahaha
So where’s your record deal Papi Foolio?
Fuck this witch.
Liza`s just mad that Joell ain`t give her any money, it`s obvious that she just cares about gettin` a lil` something for herself. All mad because she isn`t livin` that lavish life. If anything she should be thrilled that Joell is helpin` keep Pun`s name relevant, what the fuck is she doing? Aside from releasing that Big Pun documentary with the footage of Pun pistol~whippin` her a few years ago she hasn`t done shit!!!
R.i.P. BiG PuN…
Joell don’t give a fuck about Pun. He don’t give a fuck about his children. Joell is only using Pun name to advance his own career. Don’t be fooled.
Respect. I’m all about people giving Pun “And his Family” what they are due. More people should have paid homage since he passed.
Anyone seeking to use Pun to advance… Especially those who didn’t ever rock with him… That’s bunk.
I wish everyone would lay off Pun’s Fam. They are all we have left of the man.
No matter what did or did not happen… Or who did what? That’s Pun’s legacy right there. Paying her/them the royalties they’ve always been due would be a start.
Failing that they have plenty of right to be salty. I am on their behalf.
At least dude stayed positive in his reply tho. I’d feel much different about the whole situation if he was openly and overtly disrespectful.
Having said that I agree 100% (Pun intended) with everything you said.
Liza Rios looks like a chick from operation repo, god I Hate that heffer.
thank goodness joell’s not pun and never will be.
she’s bitter,disgruntled,and probably broke cause if he wasnt disrepecting the man or his family then it really shouldnt make a difference.being broke springs so much emotion out of people to were she cant even see what he was trying to do.i guess he was paying homage i dont know cause i dont know him or her or big pun but i figure he wasnt tryna dis him the man is dead and to dis a dead man is a bitch nigga move cause they cant act or speak only thru fam.this aint butt masterass flex its not that type of situation.so why get ralled up.
Yo, I see your point. Or at least the one you were trying to make. Espaecially because I’ve always been offended how the east coast forgets to rep Pun. The man was a pun-god. There are pieces missing tho.
Fact of the matter is that Fat Joe refused to pay her the over $2M in royalties she was already due. I don’t think it’s a case of “being broke springing emotions”or anything like that causing anyone to “get ralled up”
I think simply, you can only get fucked over so many times by people who claim to be “family” in public… But snub your seed in reality.
Idk? I’m just a longtime fan. I’m nowhere near “the industry part”. I’m outside looking in. He still bumps on all of my best playlists. And I guess I understand how they could feel that way.
Having said that… At least dude tried paying homage. God knows he was due a lot more cred than he will ever get. I was always surprised how quickly everyone forgot about Pun.
THING ABOUT IT: IT IS HER RIGHT BY MARRIAGE AND BEING MOTHER TO PUNS KIDS TO ACT A BITCH. BUT THE CHOSEN WORDS SHOW THAT SHE WANTS “IN” ON ANYTHING WITH THE BRAND “BIG PUN” ON IT. WHICH IS OKAY…
JOELL BETTA WATCH OUT TRYING TOO HARD TO COMPARE WITH PUN – IT DISTRACTS FROM HIS ACTUAL SKILL AND I´M REAAAAALY GETTING BORED OF HIM REPEATING HIMSELF ON FREESTYLES, ON RADIO AND ON MIXTAPE.
HE MIGHT NOT HAVE A BAD INTENTION BEHIND THE IDEA – BUT HOW WOULD MOTHERFUCKERS REACT IF SOME ASSHOLE SAYS “I´M THE NEW PAC” OR “I´M NOTORIOUS BIG”?
Plain and simple, if she had kept the financial affairs straight, she could have not only kept Pun’s legacy going, but made it where other rappers would want to come to her if they were planning on saying something about her husband in a song.
Wrong Nico, what’s up? She’s raising Pun’s children. It’s a shame everyone makes the huge deal about biggie, pac, whoever… But conveniently leaves Pun outta the equation. Kind of hard to manage “financial affairs” when TS and Fat Joe’s big ass only kept getting fatter off Pun while refusing to give his family a dime on the 2 million plus they are due in royalties. Where doez that factor into this legacy you speak of?
Facts are facts. Call it how you see it. Tho, Regardless of what she did or did not do… That’s his family. They are entitled. End of story. No matter how you spin it.
By her own admission she says Pun used to beat the shit out of her. BIG PUN was a wife beater. Sucks to hear, I lost most of my respect for him when I read that. Now she jumps back in when there is money involved. Joell trying to get fame off of a dead man like puff swaggy…. this industry is shady.
Yeah and liza is a cheating slut who sleep with other man to get money
Whoever says Joell is “using” Pun’s name just to get famous, get money, be real. His fucking credentials speak for itself. He only has two Pun tributes and over 100 tracks, freestyles, guest appearances. Respect his fuckin’ grind.
He should’ve called it “On Big Pun’s Back” and made it about his career.
Wow. I don’t think that rap skill is really a hereditary trait that can be passed down, as she seems to think. Sure it *can* be passed down: some artists have artists for parents, but to assume that her son will be a good rapper is foolish. What if he’s a shit rapper?