Earlier this month, Lord Finesse spoke to HipHopDX for “The Making of Big L’s Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous,” which was to be a feature piece commemorating this year’s 15th anniversary of the album’s release and coinciding with this month’s re-issuing by Traffic Entertainment of L’s often overlooked classic debut from 1995 on double-vinyl.
But although only one man actually committed to speaking with DX (Buckwild agreed to speak, but proved unreachable several times) for this piece, the commentary that was provided came from the man who knew Big L best, Lord Finesse. And before Finesse broke the disappointing news to DX that there will “never” be a second posthumous L album to follow the gold certified The Big Picture, Big L’s big brother in the Rap game came through with enough fond recollections of his fallen friend to keep a smile plastered to the face of anyone who takes the time to devour this detailed breakdown of L’s one and only album released while he was still with us.
So while the piece below is a lengthy read, it is definitely a worthwhile one for anyone old enough to remember coppin’ Lamont Coleman’s classic cassette, or anyone of any age who appreciates the history of Hip Hop’s legendary lyricists, of which Big L might just truly be the “M.V.P.”
“Put It On” featuring Kid Capri (produced by Buckwild)
Quotable: “I push a slick Benz / I’m known to hit skins and get ends and commit sins with sick friends / ’Cause I’m a money getta, also a honey hitta / You think you nice as me? Ha, Ha, you’s a funny nigga.”
Lord Finesse: [Columbia Records] wanted something with a hook that would be kinda catchy, and something they could get radio play with. Like, everything [L] did was dark, and it was gangsta, and it was…what was the [popular style at the time]? Horror-core. So they needed something bright, something friendly. And “Put It On” just matched everything perfect.
I don’t think that was the last song [recorded for the album]. I think the last two songs actually were “Street Struck” and “M.V.P.”
“Put it on,” the slang…was like… “do your thing.” “Put it on Big L, put it on…” [meaning] you gotta do your thing, you gotta represent.
Kid Capri is like really somewhat an honorary member of D.I.T.C.…because Capri has been there for damn-near all the members since the beginning. Whether it was [my] Funky Technician LP – that’s where I first met Kid Capri at, was The Castle [nightclub in the Bronx]. Me, Show and all of us used to hang in The Castle. [So] we used to see him on a weekly basis, and he would break [our] records [for us]. If he liked it he played it… And that’s how Funky Technician – him and Brucie B broke [that], just like [he broke Showbiz & A.G.’s] “Soul Clap,” and [Kid Capri was responsible for] how Show got the hook for “Party Groove”: “Do the bend, and stretch.” We was Kid Capri junkies with [his mixtapes]. So he’s always been like an honorary member of D.I.T.C. And [so] L wanted him to do the hook because of his pizzaz, because of his style, ‘cause of his character and because of his voice. [He was like], “Damn, if I get Kid Capri on a hook, this gon’ be the shit.”
It was rough [in terms of the commercial response to the song at the time]. It was rough on the whole D.I.T.C. [commercially], but it was really rough I’d say on L. Because, you had “Put It On,” which was a great record, and Columbia did push it – to a certain extent, but I don’t think they really put the full blast on it. You know when a label put the machine, put the power behind something. I think they gave him a push, like a nudge, but they ain’t really give him that push you over the roof push. And I think it was hard on him because they had such a unpolished gem there.
And I think what took away from the luster of Big L’s album was when [Columbia] finished up the Nas album, Illmatic, and he had [production from] Pete [Rock] and Large Professor and [DJ] Premier and Q-Tip. They had some of the top producers in the game on his album… So they felt [like], “Okay, we gonna go with this now!” And [Columbia] kinda liked slept on [Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous]. This is what I personally feel anyway.
[D.I.T.C.] brought him in the game, [and so L was loyal to us for his production]. And at the time Diggin’ was Diggin’. We went though high and low for this dude: from me discovering him, from me trying to do beats for him at the time [in 1991] when we was first getting his demo together. And it wasn’t until L and Show did “Devil’s Son,” [which was released as L’s first 12” in 1993], that [L] got that attention from Columbia. But, if you go further back, L was with me everywhere… It was like, “Wherever I can get you to shine – you just hang on to me, just stick with me and I’ma get you as much exposure as I can get you.” It wasn’t no I had him under contract, [so] I’ma pimp this young artist [kind of thing], it was just like, “Stick with me [and] you gonna get on.”
L’s LP was before Nas’… Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous was [recorded between 1991 and 1993], before Nas’ [Illmatic]. And then Nas started getting a buzz [after “Halftime” and MC Serch’s “Back To The Grill” dropped in ‘92], [so] then [Columbia] started pushing Nas over L. And then [in the months after Big L’s album was released] The Fugees came [with “Fu-Gee-La”], and once The Fugees [started making noise] L got lost in the mix up in the Sony machine.
“M.V.P.” (album version produced by Lord Finesse, “Summer Smooth Mix” video version produced by Salah)
Quotable: “In a street brawl I strike men quicker than lightnin’ / You seen what happened in my last fight friend, aiight then / L’s a clever threat, a lyricist who never sweat / Comparin’ yourself to me is like a Benz to a Chevrolet / And clown rappers I’m bound to slay / I’m sayin’ hi to all the cuties from around the way / ’Cause I got all of them strung jack / My girls are like boomerangs, no matter how far I throw ‘em they come back.”
Lord Finesse: [Notorious B.I.G.] got the idea [for his remix single version of “One More Chance”] from [the original version of “M.V.P.”] ‘Cause L was opening up for Biggie, [before Ready To Die was released and long], before that remix [for “One More Chance”] came out, and L was [already performing] “M.V.P.” They just took that [DeBarge “Stay With Me”] loop and stripped it down… But I know they heard that from [L], ‘cause that remix was no way done before “M.V.P.” was done. [And I know] because I was there during the making of the Ready To Die album ‘cause I did “Suicidal Thoughts.” So, if I woulda heard they used it before L used it I woulda never used it.
That song came about because L wanted a commercial, R&B loop that everybody could recognize. And me remembering that [DeBarge] record, and also remembering how Kid Capri used it way back when he did – I forgot which record he did, but he had that [song], and I’m like, “Damn, well maybe we could reinvent that right there.” And L heard the loop and was like, “Yeah, that’s it!” But, [with] Diggin’, we had to have the right drums, the right everything [to go with a sample], and we dressed it up in a way where we tried to keep it Hip Hop. [But] then [Diddy], he would take just everything off of something and just use it straight naked.
I don’t know who did that [“Summer Smooth Mix”]. Like, after we came with the album, Sony would hire different people to remix – you know, put they spin on the record. [The L.G. remix of “Put It On”], I liked that one actually. It was mellow, it was dark…I liked that one. [Columbia Records was] gonna do what they wanna do at the end of the day, because they the label. Regardless what we liked; fuck what we like. [Laughs] If they [felt] they liked something they went with it. All L had to do was approve it – he did have to do that, you ain’t gonna just have somebody remix his shit and he don’t like it. And he did like [the “Summer Smooth Mix”]. And he liked it to the point where he wanted that to be his [official] remix…[and then] his video [for the single].
“No Endz, No Skinz” (produced by Showbiz – original 1991 demo version of song is being released by Showbiz and Freestyle Records on August 3rd and can be heard at UnKut.com here.)
Quotable: “It ain’t even funny / Some girls don’t even know me askin’ me can they get some money / I’m lookin’ nothin’ like ya papa / I wouldn’t give a chick 10 cent to put cheese on a Whopper / They wanna know why I’m so fly / A girl asked me for a ring and I put one around her whole eye.”
Lord Finesse: [I didn’t try to coax him into writing more female-friendly lyrics] ‘cause L had a sick sense of humor. That’s why the rhymes were the way they were, because his sense of humor was just retarded. And what he thought was funny you might not think is funny. [Laughs] And the more you appalled at it, the more he thinks it’s even more funny. ‘Cause the shit he was [spittin’], some of the rhymes he was saying, we looking at him like, “Man, you so offensive,” and that would make him write more offensive shit. It wouldn’t deter him. [He was thinking] like, I got the response I wanted to get from you, so now I’ma write something even worse than that shit.
“8 Iz Enuff” featuring Terra, Herb McGruff, Buddah Bless, Big Twan, Killa Cam, Trooper J, and Mike Boogie (produced by Buckwild)
Quotable: “Rap New York rules / I sport jewels and extort crews / Don’t get me pissed, I got a short fuse.”
Lord Finesse: With that [song] L just thought he had to do a track with the rappers from his hood. And he definitely wanted to put on [those particular emcees]… We looking like, “How you gonna put eight niggas on one track?” [And he was like], “Don’t worry, I got this.”
[His] N.F.L. [crew stood for] “Niggas For Life,” and Children Of The Corn was another crew [consisting of L, Mase, McGruff, Bloodshed and Cam’ron], but he was clearly cool with both of ‘em and he just thought these are the up and coming rappers I think is nice and I wanna start my own movement with the crew here…
The funny thing is I asked L [sometime in the late ‘90s], “Why didn’t you put Mase on that?” ‘Cause Mase, [then known as Murda Mase], was hanging around at the time. And L said, “Mase wasn’t rhyming nothing like how he rhymes now. That was a different Mase [back in ‘92].” As time went on, Mase style grew and developed. Because I always [used to] say [to L], “Yo, y’all crew, why didn’t [you] ever put him on?” And that was the story that he gave me. [But L] thought Cam was ready. He thought everybody on that track was ready. [D.I.T.C.] knew a little ‘bout Cam, but we were sold on Herb McGruff. We knew that was [L’s] partner-in-crime. We was definitely sold on McGruff.
“All Black” (produced by Lord Finesse)
Quotable: “So don’t step to this ‘cause I got a live crew / You might be kinda big but they make coffins your size too / I was taught wise / I’m known to extort guys / This ain’t Cali, it’s Harlem nigga, we do walk-by’s.”
Lord Finesse: I love that [track]. [At] that time I was doing real tremendously dark, soundtrack, gutter, gangster-ish type music… And I always wanted them sinister-type, cut-through horns. I don’t even know where I got those horns from, but I know most of the stuff that I did at that time was real Jazz-related, dark Jazz-related, like Miles Davis, Quincy Jones, soundtrack dark [sounding]. And with the sinister piano glare [underlying those horns].
I wouldn’t say that’s the illest [track on the album but] some of the rhymes he’s saying is just the illest. He went off. “I’m known to extort guys / This ain’t Cali, this is Harlem nigga we do walk-by’s!” It was like, “Oooh.” But is it the best? Nah, I like “Danger Zone,” [all] the dark shit. We loved the dark shit… And I like “Street Struck,” [which] was maybe the last song we did, with the last amount of time we had in the studio. And he came with that story.
And me and [Buckwild] was kinda like biased towards the whole project, because as we went on and on with the project the songs got doper and doper to the [point] where we didn’t wanna stop. We thought after “M.V.P.” and “Street Struck” – ‘cause they was both done in the same session – we was thinking like, “Damn, you could still do some more.” But we had to turn [the album] in.
It wasn’t the plan [to have Buckwild and myself produce the majority of the album], it’s just like L would go to Buck’s house, [or] he would come around me [and] he’d hear something he’d like [and be like], “I need that. You gotta let me get that.” And it’s other songs we did that didn’t make the album. I mean, they leaked out later on. Like “School Dayz” was maybe one of the first songs he did. That was crazy! “School Dayz,” and “Timez Iz Hard On The Boulevard,” “Unexpected Flava” – it’s actually a beat that Large Professor did for me, but I never used it so I gave it to L.
Lyrically, we thought he was just phenomenal. I looked at him like – I was arrogant as a muthafucka during my era of doing what I did, but it was like this dude would just put the battery in my back half the time with the shit he said like, “Pshh, okay I gotta write even harder now.” It’s like, he just added to a blueprint that I started, and he really took off with it. He formatted the blueprint to where I was like, “Wow.” The way he put the words together, the way he expressed himself, I was truly impressed. And it was never a real competition between us, because he knew I had his back. I’m doing everything in my power to try to get [him] on, I never shunned him, never tried to put him under my wing, I never held him back, I pushed him forward as hard as I could to make sure he got that light. So, it was never like no competition where [I’m] not trying to let [L] shine, [or I’m] telling [him he] ain’t ready yet. It was like, “No, you’re ready” [Laughs]. If I’m performing he had five to ten minutes on my show easy. “What’chu wanna do? I’m at the Apollo, I’m opening up for muthafuckin’ Treach and [Queen] Latifah, [so] yo, you need to have a mean 16 for me.” That’s how it was with me and him.
“Danger Zone” (produced by Buckwild)
Quotable: “I got styles you can’t copy bitch / It’s the triple six in the mix straight from H-E-double hockey sticks / Every Sunday a nun lay where my gun spray / Fuck how legal, we doin’ shit the devil son’s way / Every minute my style switches up / They said a real man won’t hit a girl, well I ain’t real ‘cause I beat bitches up / I use words that’s ill, L got nerves of steel / I’m cool, but every now and then I get an urge to kill / I’m taking lives for a great price / I’m the type to snap in heaven with a Mac-11 and rape Christ / And I’m fast to put a cap in a fag chest / The Big L’s mad stressed, ‘cause hell is my address / I’m on some satanic shit, strictly / Little kids be waking up crying yelling, ‘Mommy Big L is coming to get me.’”
Lord Finesse: At the time it was somebody by the name of David Kahne [working as L’s A&R at Columbia]. He was like the person who was responsible for getting L signed, and he loved all that devil’s son shit. [Says in nasally white-guy voice] “Oh wow, this is great!” It’s like, “Are you serious?” Because we had to make [L] change a line in “Devil’s Son” because it was [like], “You’re too out-of-order.” What was the line… “I’m killin’ chumps for the cheapest price / I’m rollin’ with Satan,” [and instead of then saying “not Jesus Christ”] it was “F Jesus Christ.” But we made him change it to “Not Jesus Christ.” [We were] like, “Yo, what the fuck are you doing?!”
Horror-core was out [at the time], [and so] with the Gravediggaz, and Nas saying what he said on [Main Source’s] “Live At The Barbeque,” [L was] like, “Oh, y’all think that’s ill? Oh okay, alright.” That was his attitude… [Like at the end of “Devil’s Son” when he says] “I’d like to give a shout-out to all the thieves, murderers, robbers, rapists, and a special, special shout-out to everybody that got AIDS. Peace.” How the fuck do you say that at the end of a fuckin’ song, man?
He was a dark comedian. Sinister, man. It’s like how Richard Pryor was saying to Eddie Murphy, “If people gonna laugh at the shit you say, say that shit!” [Laughs] It’s like with L, if you gon’ get that response that you want when you say that rhyme, nigga say that shit! And that was his motto… [Like], “If [I] get a response from what I’m saying I’m doing something right.”
When he was saying [“I never wear rubbers, bitch if I get AIDS fuck it!”] it wasn’t nothing to do with Eazy-E. That just happened to be a real unfortunate coincidence [that L’s album dropped the same month Eazy passed].
He was smarter than what he would lead you to believe on that album. But, it’s like, [for] Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous, I’m portraying this character, and this character I’m portraying has to be believable. The stuff he has to do has to be so over-the-top. And that’s a lot of the characters he was portraying on that album. It was a mixture between what was going on in Harlem and fiction. Some of it was real, some of it was fiction. [So] when he wanted to go over-the-top with some shit he went over the top with it!
He wanted to let people know you come through this zone right here and if you not related to anybody and nobody knows you, you will get robbed. And people got robbed! That’s why they called it the “Danger Zone.” It used to be a little chicken spot, [and] if you go through there flossin’ or looking a certain way I think to this day you’ll still get robbed.
“Street Struck” (produced by Lord Finesse)
Quotable: “Stay off them corners, that might be ya best plan / Before you catch a bullet that was meant for the next man.”
Lord Finesse: That was Sony [that wanted him to make something more positive]. [They were like], “You so dark on this album, we need something positive we can push. This album is too dark: you got ‘All Black,’ you got ‘Danger Zone,’ you done came out with ‘Devil’s Son.’ We really don’t wanna push that as your image. You have to do something that’s gonna balance it.” And that’s [when] we started doing more conceptual, conscious songs like “Fed Up Wit The Bullshit,” “Street Struck,” and “M.V.P.” and “Put It On.” The album needed a balance…“I Don’t Understand It” [was another one]. The album needed a balance [‘cause Columbia was like], “We’re not gonna let you kick all this gangsta shit.” [But L], I think he wanted his album at one point to be called Murder Incorporated or something [like that]. And this was before Murder Inc. [the record label].
[The darker content on the album] was definitely a little part of his life, because when he was raised in Harlem he seen a lot of things and he witnessed a lot of things and he wanted to put it on wax. But at the same time, Sony made him come with something that can also leave a message to young kids that are listening to your music, and that’s what he came up with, “Street Struck.”
That line [from the quotable above]…it’s crazy [considering the circumstances of L’s murder]. It’s like foreseeing something that you don’t even know is gonna happen.
“Da Graveyard” featuring Lord Finesse, Microphone Nut, Jay-Z, Party Arty, and Grand Daddy I.U. (produced by Buckwild)
Quotable: “A tech-9 is my utensil/Fillin’ niggas with so much lead they can use they dick for a pencil / I’m known for snatchin’ purses and bombin’ churches / I get more pussy by accident than most niggas get on purpose.”
Lord Finesse: [Big L] wanted to go first [on these posse songs]. [And] man, you had to step your game up. And I think he was responsible for making Diggin’ step [our] game up, because if we doing a song together…pshew, you better be ready, dog.
I heard all L’s rhymes before [I recorded mine]. I was arrogant [though], I ain’t give a fuck about [going right after Big L]. I was like, “I’m just on it. You want me on it, I’m here.” It’s like, I can’t stop this dude from writing what he gonna write. He was phenomenal with the penmanship, man.
People don’t know [Jay-Z and Big L] actually battled each other in Harlem. And I wish somebody videotaped that, because that woulda been a classic to this day. I think battling each other they got admiration for one another, and that’s where – ‘Cause I can tell you L was a Jay-Z fan, just like Jay-Z was a L fan. [L] was [also] a DMX fan. He loved DMX… And I think [after] that battle [between Jay and Big L], [Big L] was like, yo, I wanna put Hov on [a song]. And we’re not talking about the Reasonable Doubt Hov, we’re talking about the Hov fresh off the “Can I Get Open” [single from] Original Flavor [in 1993]. That’s the Hov we’re talking about. And we thought he was slick with the pen, but it wasn’t until later that we could truly honestly appreciate the Hov we know as of now… Jay was running around battling people [back then], and somebody set them up to battle each other and…I really know [Jay-Z] didn’t know what he was getting into battling this dude. I don’t [remember the exact date of their battle], I just remember L telling me about it. He was sitting on the stoop getting his hair braided, and [according to L] they set up this battle and he went to battle this dude. [Big L] was also there when Jay-Z battled DMX. L was heavy into the battling thing.
I think it was different [times that we each recorded our verses]. Either it was the same day at actually different times…’cause I don’t know if Grand Daddy I.U. was there when I recorded my verse, I don’t remember that. I definitely ain’t see Jay, so it was definitely at different times.
The voice, the presence, the character, [Party] Arty, his vocal presence was monsterous. DMX had a voice [like that], but we always thought Arty’s voice came across just rougher.
“Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous” (produced by Lord Finesse)
Quotable: “Yo I admit I’m a sucka, a lowdown dirty sneaky double-crossin’ connivin’ muthafucka / Breakin’ in cribs with a crowbar / I wasn’t poor, I was po’, I couldn’t afford the o-r.”
Lord Finesse: I mean, like I said, phenomenal penmanship. All this built-up anger and tension being released on these tracks is just timeless, to the [point] that if you ain’t know L existed, right, and you was to learn this whole album, and you go in the street right now and start kickin’ those rhymes people’ll be looking at you like you was the greatest dude ever. And that album was done like eons ago. “Breakin’ in cribs with a crowbar / I wasn’t poor, I was po’, I couldn’t afford the o-r.” Like…you know!
I just think it was a combination of what he was seeing in his neighborhood and forming it into a character. It’s so many rhymes that L would say, and I know for a fact that he’s a comedian, so if y’all sitting there and y’all joking and you say something slick he’s gonna put it in a rhyme. “I wouldn’t give a chick 10 cent to put cheese on a Whopper.” [Laughs] It’s crazy.
“I Don’t Understand It” (produced by Showbiz)
Quotable: “And I wonder how the hell they record sell? / They raps are stale and frail / They false like fairy tales / Your technique and everything you speak’s weak / You got a little airplay because of your beats.”
Lord Finesse: I think that song was a song kinda relating to where he wanted to get on in the game. ‘Cause, I discovered L back in ’90, ’91, [but] he ain’t get on until a couple of years later, and what he had to go through to get on – how many different A&R offices we went into and how many different meetings we took, and with the demos and everything – he went through it to get on, man. I had him in countless Rap battles. Anything he could do to get attention, [my] “Yes You May” remix [in 1992]. And [so] that was a subject based on what he went through to get on, especially looking at all these cornball niggas [that was] getting on: “I don’t understand it.”
The stuff we created in that era was timeless, man. And I’m not saying this because I’m who I am, it’s just because you can apply [the quotable above] to [the Rap game] now!
“Fed Up Wit The Bullshit” (produced by Lord Finesse)
Quotable: “Around my way they shot many teens/And them cops better stop, or I’ma stop ‘em by any means.”
Lord Finesse: [The beat] was an interpretation of [The Isley Brothers’] “Between The Sheets.” I took the melodic pattern [of that song and] I had the bassline played over, and put hard drums to it and the classic Lord Finesse echo horns.
[Big L] wanted to be hardcore to the third power. And he wanted to be noticed as one of the top rappers. But at the time of course people was like, “Yo, you sound just like Finesse.” And I would just tell him keep doing what you doing, fuck that. Like, if I’m not saying nothing – They telling you you sound like me and I don’t give a fuck, [then] nigga do that shit, man! ‘Cause I’m looking at him like I wish I had somebody behind me how I was behind him when I was coming up in my career. And that was the whole [motivation for] just really being behind him and putting him on these different records.
One label made me pull [Big L] off certain shit, because they didn’t want his light on my airtime. I did a record for the Trespass soundtrack [in 1992] called “You Know What I’m About,” [and] the first version got L on it. It was for a Warner Brothers soundtrack and they made me go back in and change it, and that’s when I came with the version with the Scooby-Doo beat. They didn’t like the fact that I was presenting him on this track [from] a soundtrack and he wasn’t a Warner Brothers artist [like I was at the time]. Same thing for “Set It Off Troop” [from the Class Act soundtrack]. It was a couple of songs we did [together] where [the label] said, “No.” They didn’t like the fact that I was using their channel to expose him.
“Let ‘Em Have It ‘L’” (produced by Craig Boogie – original 1991 demo version of song produced by Showbiz is being released by Show and Freestyle Records on August 3rd and can be heard at Unkut.com here.)
Quotable: “I damage all opponents as soon as the bell ring / It’s all about me, yo it’s a D.I.T.L. thing / The crown is still mine ‘cause I drop ill rhymes / A lot of rappers talk that murder shit and couldn’t kill time / One-two one-two crews I run through / Fuck karate, Big L practice Gun-Fu.”
Lord Finesse: Craig Boogie was somebody that was around us, that was coming up in the game and doing beats. And…this actual track [he did] happened to stick out. We all thought it was a dope track, and we thought it’d make a nice combination on this project.
L just wanted a braggadocios song. He wanted something that he could get his rocks off on. I mean, with L, as much as it was braggadocios, we loved it because [he] was just phenomenal with it. He was extraordinarily talented, so we got a kick out of those braggadocios rhymes with all them crazy lines in [them].
[Big L’s beats were all done by] people who was around us, and at the time it was me, Buck and Show. That was the main people that was around during the making of L’s album. And L was happy with the group of people that was around him. So he ain’t figure that I have to go and get this extraordinary production, like, “I got the team of niggas that helped me get on and I’m running with this team.” Diamond [D] I think was probably in Orange, New Jersey at that time, he wasn’t [really] around us.
I don’t know [why there were no A.G., O.C. or Fat Joe guest spots on Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous]. That’s a definite L question. Because, we wasn’t opposed to none of these people. He ain’t say “Well, I wanna do a song with O.C.” and we said “No, you can’t do no song with O.C.” “I wanna do a song with A.” “Nah, you don’t…” We wasn’t opposed to it, I just think it just never happened until later on in [their] careers. See, what people fail to recognize is when Diggin’ In The Crates was created it was created as solo individual artists creating a crew, it wasn’t formed as a crew breaking into solo [careers]. Everybody was used [to] and accustomed to doing their own thing… [And so] if people wasn’t there, nobody was waiting for somebody to come in the studio to do no vocals, we just gon’ rock out [with who we got].
I don’t consider Lifestyles of Da Poor & Dangerous a classic. Compared to what was coming out around 95, no way. L was razor sharp lyrically, but the production on majority of that album was real weak, save for a few tracks.
I’m going to take a guess and say you weren’t actually around in 1995. The reason for that assumption being the ignorance of the whole of mid-90’s hip-hop in your post. its alright if you don’t think L’s debut is a classic, believe me, plenty of people back then were ambivalent on L, nobody likes to cosign a one and doner, and it was really a cult following that consistently pushed for him. But, to say the production is anything less than fantastic is to drop the thousands of shitty albums that came out that year and talk only about the ones that have survived to this day, OB4CL, Fugees, Word…Life etc. The fact that you even know this album should tell you something about how badly the competition was blown out of the water. The production isn’t flashy and that’s on purpose, what it does is surround L’s vocals in a haze of ambient violence, the nature of Harlem. I swear to God if you have ever walked Harlem’s streets this album is its soundtrack.
Back on topic, its another matter if you dislike atmospheric production, but your post seems to indicate a fondness for that type of production, because that pretty much dominated underground rap in ’95. Black Moon was on everybody’s hit list back then and people just about sent the Beatminerz to the rap pantheon.
So what gives? You really dislike those specific beats so intensely that you labeled them the worst of an era?
Damn! You took the words right out my mouth. The is correct and also his career got many artist their start as the interview mentioned. Like “Cam’ron” from “Dipset” And “Mas” who was in Bad Boy late in the 90’s and who moved to G-Unit around 2005. So even if your opinion has little criticism, He still is the main component for the start of their careers. Also Jay-Z wanted to sign him on Rocafella records before Big L’s murder. So you can criticize but he have earn the respect of millions. So the majority would either just either call you foul names or insults. But any true listener of his music will just ignore it cause it sounds foolish. But you have your own opinion and have the right to express it but I do feel that it was rude to have done this on an interview on his life and his story behind the music of the greatest album in hip-hop. All im saying is just be a little considerate or don’t write anything .
i was 7 in 95 but thank god for word of mouth and the internet(the only media that isnt censored and distorted) because i would have never known how dope this nigga is!!!
his track IS ill!
rip big l
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You typing an essay over my two little sentences. Easy bro. Lets not get too sensitive. Big L is one of my favourite artists, but I wasn’t feeling that album like that. And nowhere did I say they were the worst beats of that era…lol/smh. And I was around then. I was bumpin’ Liquid Swords, OB4CL, Illmatic, Ready to Die, Dare Iz A Darkside, Enta Da Stage, Word Life and such real heavy. I just wasn’t feeling the production that much on Lifestylez. I did say Big L was razor sharp on the mic. Don’t try and put me in no hater category.
R.I.P. Big L
I will be God honest and say that the production on Lord Finesse’s The Awakening and O.C.’S – Word…..Life was much better than Lifestylez. Lyrically Lord Finesse is a legend in his own right. But Big L was really special. It just seemed like better beats from both Finnesse and Buckwild may have done the CD true justice.
Great read. Big L was so ahead of his time lyrically R.I.P.
I love Lifestylez, cannot stand The Big Picture.
This is why HipHopDX is my favorite site online… nobody else reports this culture like you do.
I’ma go put this on tonight after work.
Fantastic read.
Some really interesting things there about LODPND. Kind of biased I supposed because Finesse and L were obviously rolling, but still nonetheless interesting that Illmatic and LODPND were recorded at similar times.
Always amazes ‘non-heads’ when you pull out L’s ‘Da Graveyard’ with Jay on it.
“OMG – That’s Jay-Z!” They go…
This was one of the best interviews/reads DX has EVER posted! One of the first songs I heard Big-L on was Show & AG’s “Represent,” back in ’92ish. No disrespect to Finesse, AG, or DeShawn but L tore that track to shreds! After listenin’ to that track (classic album as well), me and the homies were pressed to hear more from this cat “Big-L.” We each copped that “Lifestylez” joint the very first day it dropped…and yes, that “Danger Zone” track was that “work!”
While reading this piece, I wondered would Finesse or DX mention the track “The Devil’s Son?” That track will indeed give you goose bumps! That shit is so dark and grimey. I vividly recall Freak-Nik of ’94…my homeys’ homey (from the Bx) puttin us down wit’ that single in which he converted to tape from vinyl. We were down ATL goin’ crazy up in that dorm! My bad for ventin’ out on here but Big-L was that dude! Y’all youngens missed a great era in HipHop, nowadays you have these simple ass nursery rhyme clowns. Wish I could “Quantum Leap” back to ’88-’92 for a revisit. Nice piece Paul…
R.I.P Big-L
Divine, PEACE!
networth my equal yell
No Endz, No Skinz is the business! Cus if you don’t have endz you won’t be getting no skins…if you don’t have money you won’t scoop a honey…if you don’t have cash you won’t be getting no a**…if you don’t have loot you won’t be knockin the boots. Pretty simple if you ask me.
D.I.T.C. forever!!!
Nothing but love and respect to Big L and this Classic album. This is hardcore no joke no bullshit. Listening to L spit fire over dark grimey ass beats is fucking dope.
When I first heard this album I lost it, this mans talking bout “I make a lot of dough / I’m quick to spot a foe / Even if my grandma violate she gotta go”
What?!
They don’t make em like this anymore
R.I.P Big L
Great article, Big L was dope….. But looking at his lyrics, it’s no wonder he got shot and killed. Thats all he rapped about.
Loved seeing all of Big L’s old videos.. and I remember hearing that MVP remix YEARS ago, and I couldn’t figure out what was up cause the album version was different! I wanted the summer smooth mix.
Anyway, good article. Glad to see DITC paying tribute even ten years and beyond his death. Big L is vintage. I’ll always be boosted to hear new unreleased stuff from him.
when i hear BIG L SONG’S I THINK OF STAYING UP TILL MORNING FROM THURSDAY NIGHT 1AM TO 5 AM TAPE-ING STRETCH AND BOBBITIO ON 89 TECK 9.. THAT ONE BEST HIPHOP SHOW EVER- NYC STAND FOR BIG L , D.I.T.C. AND STRECT AND KOOL BOB LOVE!!!!!!!!!!
man this shit reminds me of this fucc’n album i’m making, big l and them kept it networth,working with yo team,fucc going outside,and l always mixed comedian jokes in with his rhymes like the po couldn’t afford the or, and the gun fu line haha,but that’s mc’n, i wouldn’t call the album a classic tho,and i got it when it first dropped, the mvp remix is actually better then the original,still got that wax as well, wish more artist would make albums with they team again,instead of running to the next hot muthafucca,ol instant gratification cowards, the industry even got lebron bitch ass to do it haha yell
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cool story bro
This is the most deepest, and realest interview I have ever read. This is coming from the man who has witnessed Big L’s life. This interview showed how real this rapper rhymes were and how we admired his skill as an emcee. He is truly a legendary icon to most of the rapper and his rhymes still in the minds of many through many years. He is Hip-Hop M.V.P. RIP
great read HHDX. L is one of the greatest mc’s of all time & deserves the recognition
BIG L remaions my favorite artist 2 date ranking out PAC and on level with Biggie his music is so inspirational/ soooo real… and if u dont think sooo listen 2 THIS ONLY SONG OF HIS
“STREET STRUCK” – Best Song By Any Rapper 2 LIVE
DX I really appreciate this. Thank you.
That album is raw as raw gets.
Well done. Great interview.
Articles like this are the reason why I visit your site every day.
CRAZY ARTICLE. YALL NIGGAZ ON TOP RITE NOW. CONGRATZ MY HHDX NIGGAZ
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Thats real talk thats how I felt when I finished readin this joint. R.I.P. Lamont Coleman love you my nigga
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Big L Will and always be a factor in hip hop… man just hate to imagine the fact if he was alive he probably would be the jay-z of this modern day but things happen for a reason…
You got the lyrics wrong to Danger Zone.. he says F–K Carlito, we doing sh*t the devil son’ way…you know, Carlito’s Way?!?!!
Big L rest in peace……….if skills sold truth be told,and if he was alive to this day, dude would have been a big time millionaire…..He had mad skills, i hope these nursery rhymers of nowadays will take notes from Big L on how to rap
L WILL ALWAYS BE A CLASSIC LYRACIST,SEE THIS WHAT HAPPENED TO SUM UP THE RAP GAME.WHEN THE WEST COAST DROPPED WIT NWA,DOC,EAZY E ERBODY LOVED THAT TYPE RAP MUSIC.THAT WAS THE WEST COAST SWING FROM THEY END.OVER ON THE EAST YOU HAD,LL COOL J,KOOL MOE DEE,B.D.P,BRAND NUBIANS, FUGEES, BOOT CAMP CLIC,THESE ARTIST ARE ALL CLASSIC,THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WEST COAST ARE RAPPERS,EAST COAST/UPNORTH WAS HIPHOP. SEE THE MEDIA CLASSIFIES ALL OF THEM AS RAPPERS WHEN THEY ARE NOT.BIG L WAS HIPHOP YOU CANT REPLACE HIPHOP NO MATTER HOW LONG AGO THAT SONG,ALBUM,SINGLE OR LP WAS OR HAS BEEN OUT.RAPPERS COME AND GO.HIPHOP LAST FOR EVER.THATS A BIG CRY TO BIG L WASNT A CLASSIC LYRACIST.WE LOOKED AT RAP MUSIC AND SAID DAM IM GLAD MY LIFE ISNT LIKE HIS IN THAT TYPE OF VIDEO.IF YOU LOOKED AT A HIPHOP VIDEO YOU FELT INSPIRED,OR WANTED TO DO WHAT THEY WERE DOING.WITH OUT A BACK LASH.L HAD MUSIC THAT WAS SO APPEALING BECAUSE IT WAS JUST PLAIN MUSIC THAT MADE YOU LISTEN.THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LISTENING TO MUSIC AND HEARING IT.L WAS LISTENED TO, ALONG WITH HIPHOP,RAP MUSIC SOME WAS LISTENED TO BUT MOSTLY HEARD.YOU COULD SING,QUOTE,FEEL HIPHOP,RAP MUSIC U COULD NOT WITH ALL.FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW U BETTER ASK SOMEBODY.
big l….was d main…man…d baddesst rhyme. …he got .d killer style…respect…rip