First Listen: Staff Reactions To Jay Rock Featuring Kendrick Lamar, ScHoolboy Q & Ab-Soul – “Vice City”

    The promise of Black Hippy sort of went by the wayside as each member of Top Dawg Entertainment went in widely different career directions. Ab-Soul has carved a weird lane for himself, ScHoolboy Q still flies his gangsta flag high and Kendrick Lamar is essentially Hip Hop’s champion. This leaves Jay Rock, who’s four years past his well-received debut Follow Me Home. Fans will get a chance to hear his sophomore follow-up 90059. Set to drop at midnight, he’s already had some sure fire bangers thanks to “Money Trees Deuce” and “Gumbo.” For the final loosie released before the project drops, Rock reconnects with Ab, Q and K.Dot for “Vice City,” making it the first time the three have released a recording together in quite some time.

    Is “Vice City” The Black Hippy Reunion We All Wanted Or Something Else?

    Andre: Black Hippy wasn’t supposed to be some four horsemen of the apocalypse stunt or anything. It was supposed to be textured, taut rhyme schemes with deep thoughts. That’s the way I’d always imagined it. Ab-Soul (the undisputed leader of that sound) would allow his third eye to open, and it would turn into a scene from E.T with all of TDE floating in the ether of their own flows. This is not that. And that is not a bad thing, but it isn’t a good thing, either. It’s not like what I expect to happen should ever actually happen (God forbid that, actually, like, fuck) but I wanted more cleverness. Everyone (even Schoolboy Q!) is just so damn serious.

    What ended up happening is Kendrick dominating the record. What he does now is such a finely tuned thing that he ends up overshadowing Soulo’s glorious word-flips and Rock’s straightforward brilliance. It’s too bad, because there’s more there than that little section where the beat pauses and they all flip their rhyme schemes to fit. Frankly, it’s kind of annoying. Like someone who constantly pauses in the middle of a sentence, the constant staccato numbs the momentum of the track. And that’s what tracks like these need: constant forward momentum. Instead of sounding like a pod of killer whales, they sound like a single organism with sentient appendages. Which is cool and all, but not what I needed out of the most talented roster —at least lyrically — in the known universe.

    But, is it good? That’s tough to say. It’s a slow-winding country road instead of an action film. Both are good. The thing that separates them from everybody else still shows up, though. They are all incredibly talented emcees. And each part of their split hive mind styled flow is compelling enough. Plus, that hook: “Big money, big booty bitches / Man that shit… gon’ be the death of me…” is pretty great. So as far as continuing to be the group with the conscious, I salute them. As far as this particular Black Hippy reunion, I’ll need something a little more virulent in the future. Good to have you back, guys.

    Ural: “Vice City” isn’t the Black Hippy reunion many were asking for. Then again, TDE has mastered the art of defying expectations for quite a while now. So, I’ll just keep this simple. Black Hippy kept a centralized theme while showing off each of their individually evolved personalities on “Vice City.” Structure wise, the track isn’t a posse cut in the general sense. These just aren’t a selected group of emcees waiting their turn at lyrical bat but labelmates, friends and close collaborators who work frequently with each other anyway. Keeping that in mind, the Cardo produced track does two things fairly well; fits well into 90059’s vibe and has the four amigos together on one track. There’s a central and sort-of “been there” theme of women sometimes being an addictive and dangerous distraction. An interesting case of style over substance, the delivery Black Hippy uses is loose yet slightly intricate.

    However, having K.Dot kick things off is totally unfair because, yet again, he manages to outshine due to sheer star power alone. That doesn’t mean Ab’s clever wordplay (that harpoon line was pretty humours), Q’s manic gangster-isms and Rock’s interesting narrative focus can’t hold their own. The best thing about “Vice City” is how comfortable they actually sound around each other. That’s the best description of the record, it’s very safe which could be a serious issue for many. Everyone else can enjoy the record on its own merit. At it’s worse, “Vice City” is a missed opportunity to really show the newly found TDE fans exactly why so many rap fans were clamoring for a Black Hippy reunion. On the flipside, this could possibly mean collaborations more in line with what people want from the foursome.

    Andre Grant is an NYC native turned L.A. transplant that has contributed to a few different properties on the web and is now the Features Editor for HipHopDX. He’s also trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot. Follow him on Twitter @drejones.

    Ural Garrett is an Los Angeles-based journalist and HipHopDX’s Senior Features Writer. When not covering music, video games, films and the community at large, he’s in the kitchen baking like Anita. Follow him on Twitter @Uralg.

    16 thoughts on “First Listen: Staff Reactions To Jay Rock Featuring Kendrick Lamar, ScHoolboy Q & Ab-Soul – “Vice City”

    1. Easy to say Kendrick owned the track because yeah he’s Kendrick like you guys said.. but I thought it was pretty even across the field. All of them went in. For me it was nice to hear Ab-Soul and Q again.

    2. Very dope track, the rhyme scheme is a bit boring; but what it lacks in energy it makes up for in individual effort. Nice to see a renewed sense of the Black Hippy collective, they sound cohesive as well as comfortable together. I think Jay should have been more active on the hook.

    3. Wack as fuck. The reason k dot and schoolboy q hot is because of interscope. Majors should pick up soul and rock because tde is so mibor league

    4. why so much hate on the song?
      hearing some psyched out bars to this trap beat is such a unique feeling. the delivery is so rad, a little repetitive i agree, but each artist does a good job of using the same delivery and making it his own. Souls wordplay, some Q punchlines, Jay Rock out here just havin a damn good time, and having kendrick on the track isnt even fair to be honest. Its a Jay Rock song and Kendrick steals the show but i expect nothing less from practically the king of hip hop currently. this shit is flame had me bumpin yall are hatin for reasons i dont understand

    5. I understand both points i really love the track. TDE always surprises so i never know what to expect. Its a good track and fits the 90059 vibe perfect.

      It would be great to one day hear a whole TDE Camp track you know Black Hippy with SZA & Rashad

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    8. I gotta say it’s pretty dope. The first thought in my head watching it was that Kendrick should’nt of started off though….that helps portray him “stealing the show.” Great delivery and I agree it’s just good to hear some Black Hippy again!!!

    9. Aye the scheme is different. The rhyme pattern is awkward and awesome… It’s different from the same monotonous flow we’ve been hearing for a million years now.. Although it might not fill to some it does suffice

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