Beats are a bit more subjective that emcees but just as pivotal to the Hip Hop experience. Lupe’s comments notwithstanding, we live in the kind of world where production probably matters more than ever before. That said, there’s always been a celebratory atmosphere around the producer, and they deserve their own canon. Billboard gave it a shot, but, here, we provide some alternatives to the beats provided by the producers they’ve chosen.
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Bangladesh
Beat Chosen: “A Milli”
DX Alternative: “What’s Your Fantasy”
“A Milli” served as Lil Wayne’s hookless vehicle for anyone doubting his lyrical abilities. Makes sense why 2008 featured several hundred veterans and up-and-coming emcees attempting to spit over Bangladesh’s sample-based production featuring simple drums. However, Ludacris’ “What’s Your Fantasy” really put the Grammy-winning producer on the map and serves as his true calling card.
Timbaland
Beat Chosen: “Nigga What, Nigga Who?”
DX Alternative: “Big Pimpin” Featuring UGK
Timbo’s catalog is so crazy that anyone of his hyper-futuristic joints could have sufficed. For us, though, the one that caused all the stir is the winner. “Big Pimpin” introduced Jigga to an audience he’d yet to previously reached, and Timb dragged Hov into the stratosphere with this loop of the Egyptian composer Abdel Halif Hasem’s “Khora Khora.”
The Neptunes
Beat Chosen: “Drop It Like It’s Hot”
DX Alternative: “SuperThug”
“Drop It Like It’s Hot” was a genius beat, but “SuperThug” stands as not only the best N.O.R.E song ever but maybe the Neptune’s best beat ever. It had it all acting in unison to transform the emcee into a club staple with a sound you’d never really heard before. And after this magical offering in 1998, The Neptunes would immediately become household names and it would result in Noreaga’s highest charting single at the time.
Deric “D-Dot” Angelettie
Beat Chosen: “All About The Benjamins”
DX Alternative: “It’s On”
For some reason, while at good old Camp Vacamas the summer of my 7th-grade year, we did a presentation of “All About The Benjamins” for the camp ( I was Sheek). The song was a phenomenon, and everywhere you went that year it trailed behind you as it blared out of car windows and through door grates. “D-Dot” didn’t really hit that sort of brilliance again, but the closest is Beanie Sigel’s Jigga featured classic “It’s On.” While it was a soul sampled sound bed of Carrie Lucas’s “Questions,” and didn’t feature the firepower of Lil Kim or a deceased Biggie Smalls, it was still a stirring duo track from two emcees who would soon become bitter enemies.
RZA
Beat Chosen: “C.R.E.A.M.”
DX Alternative: “Shimmy Shimmy Ya”
Obviously “C.R.E.A.M” is a classic record off of a classic album, but I’d argue that “Shimmy Shimmy Ya” is the better beat. Those lilting pianos layered under what can only be described as a boom-bap that borders on sounding like a tropical storm, it provided the perfect space for ODB to be the alt-Hip Hop pioneer from the future.
Havoc
Beat Chosen: “Shook Ones Part II”
DX Alternative: “Survival Of The Fittest”
As sinister as “Shook Ones Part II” was, the arguably darker beat is “Survival Of The Fittest.” An interpolation of “Shook Ones Part II,” the addition of The Barry Harris Trio with Al Cohn’s “Skylark” takes the ambiance down into the fourth ring of Hell.
Dr. Dre
Beat Chosen: “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang”
DX Alternative: “California Love”
Dr. Dre’s “Nuthin’ but a “G” Thang” was one of many breakout moments for the newly developed G-Funk production that made the West Coast Hip Hop a commercial force. But the moment’s last true hurrah and the largest mainstream moment came through Tupac’s Death Row reinvention “California Love.” While “Nuthin’ but a “G” Thang” was a smooth, warm Los Angeles Sunday evening ride on Crenshaw, Dre created an anthem suited for ‘Pac to stick his chest out.
Pete Rock
Beat Chosen: “They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)”
DX Alternative: “The World Is Yours”
“They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)” was a sentimental tribute to former Heavy D & The Boyz member Troy Dixon. Helps that Pete Rock’s production was the perfect bed for CL Smooth to lay it all out. Then again, does the instrumental hold up against “The World Is Yours?” Not by a long shot.
DJ Premier
Beat Chosen: “NY State Of Mind”
DX Alternative: “Mass Appeal”
Is “NY State Of Mind” better than DJ Premier’s entire catalogue with Guru? The question for the ages gets complicated when bringing “Mass Appeal” into the equation. Maybe the overwhelming reputation Illmatic enjoys shrouds this Gang Starr offering, but there are several Gang Starr beats that seemingly dwarf “NY State Of Mind” and “Mass Appeal” is clearly one of them.
Ed Fletcher, Clifton “Jiggs” Chase and Sylvia Robinson
Beat Chosen: “The Message”
DX Alternative: “Rapper’s Delight”
Though “The Message” would eventually become a go-to sample in Hip Hop’s future, many consider the record an influential one more so as being the first “conscious rap” song than for the actual production itself. If anything, “Rapper’s Delight” set more of a production trend with its clever usage of Chic’s “Good Times.” And it served as a transitional moment from 70s Disco to Hip Hop’s future. Some could consider “Rapper’s Delight” rap’s first real pop-culture moment.
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I don’t even think you can consider Rapper’s Delight a beat. It’s a copy of Good Times. Nothing about that beat was really different than the original.
I feel like Grinding should have been the choice for Neptunes
“NY State Of Mind” all time greatest hiphop beat !!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, no it’s not. Dead Presidents is.
Glaciers of ice RZA, DWYCK-Primo although i go back and forth with mass appeal.
for neptunes either grindin, keys open doors or i am not you. could be some NERD ish im missin though, fuck Gangsta Lean Hella dope too. Neptunes/NERD is hard to call
Who cares what the best beat is. Too many opinions and too many nice beats that exist. Just listen to the shit and shut the fuck up. Fuck a list, homie.
shimmy ya??man you trippin!!triumph is da best rza beat.
And Winter warz, and wu gambinos, and for heavens sake, and bring the pain, and mystery of chess boxing, and assisination day, and justice for all, and motherless child, and incarcerated scarfaces, and run, and mr sandman, and 4th chamber, and duel of the iron mic, and,,,,,,well u know we can go on forever right???…but just to let yall know,
RZA>>>>>>>>>>all of them other niggaz…….peace and fukk ur comment!
#IHATEBITCHASSNIGGAZZ
IMO, Nigga What > Big Pimpin’… not by much, but a dreamscape playing field for rapid fire deliveries. Pimpin might make one reminisce about parties and good times, but Nigga What reminds you what a wordsmith with the talents of a younger Jay, Bone Thugs, Tech N9ne, Twista, etc. can accomplish on it. It was a little ahead of its time, something we’ve grown accustomed to from Timbo over the years. PS – one could argue that “Bounce” was/is one of his more intriguing beats in years.
Neptune’s is tougher to gauge, but I’d even throw Put ‘Em Up into the Neptune/NORE debate. And G Thing/CREAM > anything else on any list. Honorable mention should go to Notorious Thugs.
Wrong wrong and wrong!!
I love Shimmy ya but not best at all. Also disagree with Hav too.
they could have picked from any of these beats.
Rza: Rainy dayz, Glaciers of ice, Wu-Gambinos , Fish , Severe Punishment and 1112
Havoc: Right back at you, QU , backwards, Still shining , Where ya heart at, This is how we live.
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Havoc didnt produce Backwards dipshit….Alchemist did! Another case of Internet fucktards talking about shit they know nuttin bout…take this L and jump off a bridge..
Agree with all of these except C.R.E.A.M and Nuthin But a G Thang. That’s the signature sound of the motherfuckin Wu. Don’t disrespect. That Shimmy Shimmy Ya is a slept on banger but RZA didn’t even have the best beat on that album [True Master – Brooklyn Zoo]. Nuthin But a G Thang is the best beat in hip hop history. It’s what catapulted Dre to the top echelon of producers. Don’t forget that Cube took a massive shit on Dre/NWA with Bomb Squad/Sir Jinx production. That NWA, D.O.C (slept on and some of my favorite work of Dre’s) production was nice but wasn’t the Chronic. Not by a long shot. Good list though from Dx
U must be on bath salts!! Nothin but a g thang is 80% sample with drums and chords…best beat is “m.e.t.h.o.d man” off 36 chambers…hands down!
Your approach was mad corny… you could’ve just picked different beats that you thought were better than the ones suggested by Billboard, instead of taking different beats from the same producers they chose.
Oh Timbo Killed “Shenanigans” DJ Premier “Come Clean” or Freddie Foxx “Part Of My Life” Pete Rock “Gimmie Yours” or “Fakin Jax” Or Shut Em Down(Remix) Havoc “Drop A Gem On Em” or “Where Ya Heart At” or “Quiet Storm” RZA “Tres Leches”(Triboro Trilogy) “Buck 50” “Let My Niggaz” “Triumph” Dr.Dre “Doc and the Doctor” “Xxplosive” Co-Production “Who Knew” Bangladesh “No Drama” “IDGAF”…. Oh and Where the Hell Is Eric Sermon ” 4,3,2,1″ is one of the Best….
Yo Billboard is on some serious Dust! How in the Hell is Just Blaze not on this List… “Breathe” “Exhibit C” “You Don’t Know” “Pump It Up” “Oh Boy” and “Flipside” Could’ve been on that List Sample Based or not Still Classic. Oh and For me Timbaland “Deliverance” is hands down Tim in Overdrive….