Party Over: Did Mobb Deep Permanently Damage Their Legacy?

Two editors weighed Mobb Deep's legacy and influence in and out of the booth against their catalog and tried to come to some sort of conclusion.

“I don’t know / I don’t like to go that road / If that’s your clique / I suggest you stay with ’em yo / While some say break up to make up / I say stick together god until we all cake up…” —Noreaga, “It’s Not A Game.”

Like many people that regularly visit this site, HipHopDX’s Editor-in-Chief, Jake Paine, and I have been Mobb Deep fans for the better part of two decades. So it was disappointing on a lot of levels to see their fauxbreak up via Twitter earlier this week. After some fake tweets, and a really convincing audio sample, the M-O-B-B gave two explanations—and one of them was actually reasonable. Hav apparently left his phone after a Knicks game. The other explanation seemed to be Grade A bullshit; we set traps.

But the dismantling of your favorite groups is never pretty. We witnessed the fall of N.W.A. via soundbytes and the respectively scathing diss tracks “No Vaseline,” “Alwayz Into Somethin’” and “A Message To B.A.” Those of us outside the tri-state area got confirmation that A Tribe Called Quest were calling it quits when they announced it via an infamous cover of The Source. Everyone champions the classic Hip Hop group. But how many of them are actually left? And, more importantly, should Mobb Deep be one of them? We weighed Mobb Deep’s legacy and influence in and out of the booth against their catalog and tried to come to some sort of conclusion.

Hooked On Mobb Phonics

“Take a walk jerk / This ain’t LeVert Sweat and Johnny Gill / This is Rap for real / Something you feel / You catch a chill when you hear the Mobb bang through your stereo / It’s heavy metal for the Black people / Rock N Roll but it’s Hip Hop though / My drug music / Is therapeutic to the user / You slam dance to it…” –Prodigy, “Allustrious” by Mobb Deep.

Omar: At their height, there was a very palpable kind of rage and aggression that came standard issue with every Mobb Deep release. I was the product of a low-income, single parent household when The Infamous dropped. The average teen already has plenty of reasons to be pissed off. And even though I was literally on the opposite end of the country, Havoc and Prodigy’s beats and rhymes resonated in a very real way with me. And it wasn’t just a hood or a black thing. I know plenty of non-Black people and suburbanites that feel the same way. For an entire generation that is hovering around the 30-year-old marker, just hearing “There’s a war going on outside no man is safe from…” taps into an energy that few artists can access.

So now, days after the rumors have been squashed, why am I sitting here kind of wishing Hav and P called it quits after all? Maybe I’m just jaded. I figured the best way to find out would be to enlist a fellow Mobb Deep fan for a friendly debate to see if Havoc and Prodigy (and us as listeners) are better off going their separate ways.

Jake: My experience as a Mobb Deep fan was a few years shorter than yours. In the critical Rap year of 1995, besides Tha Dogg Pound's  “Respect,” the most-played song for me was Havoc and Prodigy’s  “Up North Trip.” Although it was called into question later on by Rap challengers, the Queens, New York duo felt deeply authentic at a time when Hip Hop was starting to go Hollywood. That's always what has made Mobb Deep shine to metheir ability to force the mainstream to come to them with a sound that was rooted in the streets.

Omar: I definitely agree with you there. Their relentless aggression aside, I always thought Mobb Deep stood for a certain brand of stubborn loyalty. Hearing Hav brazenly claim, “No matter how much loot I get I’m staying in the projects…forever,” spoke to that. In hindsight, such a claim was highly unrealistic. Nearly 19 years later, I wouldn’t wish living in the projects on Flo Rida, let alone a rapper I actually like. And I suppose that’s why I prefer to remember Mobb Deep as they were in 1994 as opposed to the current version. Artists are entitled to change. As a listener, I expect them to. But I can’t shake the feeling that Hav and P created an aesthetic that they could no longer live up to—hell, no rapper could. In hindsight, some of the shit they rhyme about lately is as every bit as unrealistic as Rick Ross calling himself a cocaine kingpin. And, now that I’m 32 and definitely old by Hip Hop standards, the moments when I want to start someone’s ending are very seldom. I wonder if they even still believe what they’re selling.

Start Of Your Ending

“Feel me on the road / Feel me at the shows / Feel me what I stand for / And I’ma do it to the death until I can’t no more…” –Havoc, “Delt With The Bull by Prodigy.

Jake: I think they do, if nothing more than in their past. That past has led to a bond and that's what they’ve been selling in the last few years. In August of last year, I spent some time with Mobb Deep backstage at Philadelphia’s Theater Of The Living Arts (TLA) on South Street. Although the resulting interview was not what I was hoping for (as is the case interrogating anybody minutes before going on stage), I left that evening with a deep respect for these guys’ loyalty to each other. Prodigy’s teenage son was referring to Havoc as an uncle; Havoc called Prodigy "the best" emcee in Hip Hop. In spite of all the changes, beefs, jail sentences and label struggles, the Poetical Profits (as they were first known) looked like the ideal trajectory for a Hip Hop duo coming from the golden-era. After Prodigy’s three-year sentence, not a step was lost and if anything, the air in the room as well as in last year's headlines appeared as though it was definitely time to get to work. I feel what you’re saying in the sense that content like last year’s “Dead Man Shoes” feels a bit extreme for a couple of 40-somethings, but I looked at it as more of respecting the fans’ wishes. Raekwon already proved the power of the nostalgia effect three years ago with Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…Pt. II, and although Mobb Deep hasn’t released anything together in the late 2000s that stacks up against their early work, they definitely seem connected to the fans. I’d rather that "stuck in the projects" corner they painted themselves into years ago than a “I Know I Can” Nas moment from the two Rap war-mongers.

Beyond just the music, Mobb Deep stands the chance to be one of the few groups from the golden-era staying together. From N.W.A. and A Tribe Called Quest to Slum Village and Gang Starr, too many groups have not been able to weather the storm. The next generation of acts, whether we're talking about G-Unit or we’re talkin’ Little Brother, has followed suit. A group's shelf-life is shorter in Hip Hop than in any other genre of music. In the words of Jay-Z, “Why throw everything away over ego?” Like Method Man and Redman, these guys can make their living doing the Rock The Bells circuit, and as we both just saw last month, the live show is as sharp as ever.

Omar: I don’t think anyone can deny the Mobb Deep legacy. I just don’t want them to stay together strictly for the sake of staying together. In my opinion, that legacy has already taken some hits over the years. For all that talk on “The Infamous Prelude” of foes supposedly getting “shot, stabbed or knuckled down,” there were numerous reports of crew members getting duffed out by the likes of Saigon, Keith Murray and others. Even as the group continued to grow with tracks like “Quiet Storm,” I found them continuing to milk a tough guy act that had already worn thin. Throw in their losing track record for handling beefs with Nas and Jay-Z, an uncharacteristic and unsuccessful stint with G-Unit, Prodigy’s gossip-style, tell-all biography and a decade of hit or miss music, and there’s not much left to throw away.


Get It Forever

“I don’t want beef / I’m like Pookie it’s just callin’ me / I ain’t with that Twitter shit / Niggas try to follow me…” –Havoc, “Evil Deeds” by Wu-Tang Clan.

Jake: Twenty years removed from Juvenile Hell, I think that this week revealed that Mobb Deep is in a predicament. Where do they go from here? The group always taking umbrage with somebody finally turned the guns on each other. Surely, anybody following the storyline can point to one member's rumored drinking and another's notorious paranoia. However, I wish both parties listened to their fans right now (or some of us, anyway) to understand the big picture: disbanding is not the way. And as a fly on the wall for the last 10 years, I deeply suspect what’s going on behind the scenes.

Like you, I am not one to champion Mobb Deep’s music of the last decade. Although a few solo and side projects were definitely worth purchasing (Free Agents: The Murda Mixtape, Return Of The Mac and Product Of The 80’s come to mind), the post-Loud Records years have displayed a group that lost its sound even if the message stayed the same. I found Black Cocaine to be one of 2011’s biggest disappointments, but the recent live shows I witnessed in the last year remind me that Mobb Deep has a deep value to Hip Hop.

Omar: I would agree with you to a certain extent. I just wonder if the current version of Mobb Deep has equal or greater value than us just remembering the Mobb Deep of the early-to-late '90s. Because to me, the group as I remember them ended around 2006. Regardless of what the fallout from earlier in the week is, I sincerely hope Hav and P keep making music. But for the last six years, I haven’t been particularly interested in most of what they’ve made together. And if they need to separate in the name of artistic growth, that’s cool with me. I’m no longer young and naïve enough to think they’re living in the projects and knuckling down every rapper they have beef with. But the landscape of Rap has changed, and it’s a detriment to them to hang on to a bygone era when they can function perfectly well but separately in a new one.

An Eye For An Eye…Your Beef Is…Mine

“I’ll take the life of anybody trying to take what’s left / And through all that a nigga ain’t scared of death / All y’all brand new niggas just scared to death / I spent too many nights sniffing coke getting right / Wasting my life / Now it’s time to get things right…” –Prodigy, “Quiet Storm” by Mobb Deep.

Jake: As you pointed out, beef has been a lasting trait within Mobb Deep’s history, and the history of Queensbridge Hip Hop. As MC Shan and Marley Marl are hashing out their own 25 year-old issues lately, a circle of talent in Nas, Cormega, Capone-N-Noreaga, Tragedy Khadafi, Infamous Mobb, Nature and others appears to be headed towards a peaceful era, if nothing more than for the fans. Although the last week is as embarrassing to longtime followers like us as it is to the Mobb brand, it’s endurableespecially in this fast-moving, easily-forgotten 24-hour news cycle era of Hip Hop. While I too roll my eyes at Havoc’s explanation for what happened this past week, we’ve also continued to buy EPMD albums after Erick Sermon and Parrish Smith reportedly attempted murder on each other 10 years before Gucci Mane and Young Jeezy. We have conveniently forgotten Daz Dillinger’s tireless attacks on Kurupt in the early 2000s, seemingly over a label contract. Lastly, we have watched a largely forgotten beef between Joe Budden and Royce Da 5’9 fuel controversy into the formation of Slaughterhouse, which has put millions in the pockets of four drastically overlooked lyrical giants. Beef is temporary in this fickle WWE-like industry, Mobb Deep is (hopefully) forever.

Drop A Gem On Em

The fact that Monday’s news of what was ultimately a fake Mobb Deep break up was one of HipHopDX’s most-trafficked stories means a number of things. Obviously, people still have an insatiable appetite for scandal and conflict. But the fact that peers such as Fat Joe called the split “a sad day in Hip Hop” speak to Havoc and Prodigy’s collective influence. Despite our jobs here, people like Jake and I aren’t the ones who will ultimately have the final word on Mobb Deep’s legacy—you are. After all, it’s the paying Hip Hop consumer that determines the tide of public opinion and popularity with every purchase and mouse click. All of which begs the final question: do you think Mobb Deep should stick together or have they ultimately tarnished their legacy with the events from earlier in the week?

Omar Burgess is a Long Beach, California native who has contributed to various magazines, newspapers and has  been an editor at HipHopDX since 2008. Follow him on Twitter @FourFingerRings.

Jake Paine is HipHopDX's Editor-In-Chief. He has worked for DX since 2007, after five years as Features Editor at He has contributed to, The Source, XXL, Mass Appeal and others. He lives in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Follow him on Twitter (@Citizen__Paine).


  • Anonymous

    How!? They classic are still classic. What the fuck are you talking about?

  • GetNOld

    This genaration only wishes they could've had the opportunity to hear the Mobb at the the top of their game. Queens Finest!!

  • Acesun

    WHOA!- What a Great Read HHDX, I too was a fan of the Mobb since Hell on earth and also agree HipHop needs the Mobb. Even if HAV and P have grown into different people, keep making that MOBB sound and cash checks. If anything stay in the Rock The Bells circuit and clean up performing acts from 20+ years ago. I was able to catch the Show last year in San Bernadido and Saw P and HAV do their thing, so many shows at once, you almost had to run around the park to catch your FAV legends. Listening to OLD Mobb puts me in a time machine I'll never forget, because some of those years, are the ones that defined myself.

  • Wu tanf forever

    Yo the infamous is one of the greatest albums of all time and these dudes are legends word


    Dont believe the Hype ! I just hope the rumors are falls, but damn rumors are chit chat behind peoples back. Aint nothing stand up about that! You got to know that with P writing the tell all book it was a mather of time before some story came out in attack to MOBB. The book was un ethic thing to do, especially with the street code dry snitchin. G's make mistakes to deny them, its the fucking truth! At the end of the day...There aint no touchin "the Infamous", "Hell on Earth" or/and "Murda Muzik" I wish they could put product out like that just like Rea did with Cuban Linx 2

  • $P!T

    Great article! As a fan I was disappointed to hear Mobb don't plan on working together for studio albums in future (if that's even true) but they have outlasted most crews and the one thing you could count on was MobbDeep sticking together through anything. Its so sad that the liqour fucked things up...

  • No P 4 Me

    P is forever a Homo, no matter what they say

  • DIEGO6!9

    Prodigy is better then hes ever been. he dont need havoc no more havoc needs to step up. yeah the previous mobb albums r wack but prodigys mixtapes (product of the 80's DOPE!) are fire. prodigy needs to fuck wit sum back in the day grimmy sounds wit heavy instruments reguardless the G Unit deal.

  • nano

    mobb deep best works are infamous hell on earth murda muzik infamy and side joint HNIC

  • Indelible72

    The Infamy album sucked but they rebounded with Free Agents. The real downfall was signing to G-Unit with their water-downed sound and they still haven't recovered.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed. I thought M.O.P. would have had the same fate, but they jumped and landed solid. Mobb Deep made some classic music that til this day I put on and you can feel that shit in your soul. If this is it, their work was done well.

    • nano

      100% true they fuck up with g unit bad bro

  • Mr Flamboyant

    Eh... an article much ado about nothing really. In essence, Mobb ain't going anywhere. Black Cocaine was ok and not a disappointment. Prodigy is still sonning a lot of everyone's favorite MCs. I really don't know what the hell this recent bs was between them, especially on Hav's end...which once again, I attribute to straight alcoholism and blacking out perhaps at worst and even a hacker at best...but when they make that LP to get shit fierce again, then what will everyone say? Of course, there's a chance that this new project will flop. (Kanye shrug) Eh... get me the Prodigy/ALC joint. I can care less. Get me the Nas/Prodigy joint hopefully as well. Heck get me the rumored Raekwon/P/ALC joint. Just get me something and stop all of this extreme fallacy of nonsensical madness. Damn.

  • Special Report

    There's a picture put up yesterday of Mobb Deep at a Knicks/Wizards game (which was on 4/12/12) so yeah they're not breaking up.

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  • TrueStory

    Mobb back in the 90's was untouchable and made a lane of their own by doing them and keeping it in the fam. I know the 90's is over with but if Hav and P got back with Noyd, IM3, Tragedy and CNN, keep it all in the fam and fuck these bullshit collabs and features with wack niggas like Waka Flaka, keep all beats strictly Hav / ALC and P got off that lazy rhyming shit and actually put thought in his bars like he used too, dudes could create they own lane again and not only help put NYC back on the map, but let these new niggas know, you don't have to switch up and jump on the bandwagon of 'that popular mainstream' sound to stay relevant.

  • Clos

    Perhaps Im selling them short because Murda Muzik with "Quiet Storm" and Infamy with "Get Away" and "The Learning" all real classic track and you still hear 'em on the streets like back then. All in all though, history was made and now its time to end the chapter because its 10 years too late to add to it

  • Anonymous

    Some of u dickriding fags are stupid as hell. HoMobb Deep aint been shit since late 90s. Outkast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobb deep. Kill ur family, burn ur house and hang urself on a tree if u disagree with me

  • Clos

    I gotta agree with Omar. That aura that surrounded them during their ""Shook Ones" days can't be recreated or duplicated even by them. Rappers' styles either change with time or they hold on for that nostalgia feel. Regardless of what they put up now, we got what they put up then. But who they are now is so diminished from what they were. Its not the 90's, end the chapter properly and we'll keep listening to "Shook Ones pt 2".

  • Anonymous

    Hell On Earth >>>>>>>> The Infamous.

  • Real Talk 100

    Ok ya Mobb is past their hey day, but i remember people sayin that when they dropped Infamy. Than a couple years later we get Free Agents, which was a classic mixtape, we get Amerikaz Nightmare, and we got another classic mixtape in Whoo Kid's the New Mobb Deep shit, than they've had gems here and there like Cobra, I say stay together, im still feelin the Mobb even if its not as good as back in their prime.

  • saint

    word.. this is bullshit

  • saint

    The Infamous is a hip-hop classic, and Shook Ones Pt. 2 is TOP10 of all time, (the beat is up there with 93 til Infinity, everyone in the world recognizes it). Hell on Earth is a good album, H stepped his production game up but I think the lyrical content is played out and kinda boring. I've never really listened to their first album. The rest are all wack. That fucking 50 cent sound. maybe i'M stuck in the 90's but I hate that shit. their cocaine shit ep was one of the wackest albums put out last year. So basically, their legacy is Shook Ones. Niggas will freestyle over that shit for the next 2 000 years. It's a mothafuckin classic

  • LeftHook

    Their first few albums were definitely the best, but I actually still liked a lot of their later stuff. I think a lot of people view the newer stuff as worse than what it really is, just because it doesn't hold up to their older stuff. Let's take the Black Cocaine EP for example. Imagine that album sounds exactly the same as what it does, except it's not Mobb Deep, it's some new artist. Imagine the buzz that new artist would have.

    • Real Talk 100

      Ya bro, i say their new shit is mad underrated, like when Amerikaz Nightmare dropped everyone was sayin they went commercial again... WHAT?! That album was the truth, and they were just as grimy on those Alchemist beats. Frankly, Havok and Alchemist are fuckin geniuses, I think Havok is the most underated underappreciated rapper in the game, this guy is one of the dopest to ever touch the mic AND an ill producer up there wit the legends like Dre and Premo, and unlike Dre and Kanye his shits not ghostwritten

  • Anonymous

    what'st the point of having a debate if you always agree on everything?

  • Anonymous

    I will always remember them for dropping three of my favorite albums of all time in a row. They fell off like nobody else after that though.

  • Shaolin style

    To be honest, I love mobb deep, but the mobb from back then. Quite honestly they havnt dropped anything worth quoting since the 90"s early 2000s. I mean it's like they turned into completely new artists. Remember when u first heard "got it twisted" on the radio? I didn't even know that was mobb deep, prodigys flow and voice changed dramatically over the years. And not in a good way. Point is that they made their share of classic music and will always be remembered as a crucial part of the golden era in hip hop. Nobody can take that away. If they choose to keep making music then fine, by all means. I just won't be listening more than likely. Doesn't mean that they should call it quits or break up?? Isn't there enough shut going on in the hip hop world for you people to blog about? Instead of some fantasy bullshit debating if a group should break up? Get the fuck out of here get a real job niggas

  • ThrillMurray

    This is all BS. They were at the Knicks game tonight together as if there never was a problem. The Mobb is all good. DX should be ashamed at pushing this TMZ type BS

  • Shug757

    say it aint so break up the mobb naw man they shouldnt do that nahimean themdudes like the hottest rap group or duo out of the bridge imnot even from ny but when they hit the seen back in the day i related to the lyrics,on every aspect almost felt like i wanted to be from queensbridge imean I feel they should stick together and give life to the new kids from the hood and bless the new comers wit the rawness they sparked the weight of their legacy they should be leading these new heads into bringing hip hop/raw rap back to the eastcoast,no disrespect to the dirtysouth my origin.





  • hypestyle

    uh.. It still hasn't been established. Have they broken up as a group or not?

  • SKEEM @ the Knicks game tonight. MOBB DEEP FOREVER!!!!!

  • big big

    as soon as the mobb are gone people will miss them and wish they came back, one of the realist hip hop groups ever, will never forget that no matter how many lil wayne dick riding faggots hate on the mobb

  • Neighborhood Playa

    I guess it's cool to bash Mobb on this particular page, but I gotta put in my two cents... these two were staples of the east coast sound. their good stuff is nothing but a memory now, but it's still disappointing to see them split. no doubt P has been falling off since Murda Muzik, but can't we at least respect Havoc's production?

  • drew

    the infamous and hell on earth are classics...i do admit they got lazy after those two albums..ill never trash on them though because of those two albums..shit happens

  • D90

    as far as duo's are concerned... OutKast >>> Mobb Deep Clipse >>> Mobb Deep

    • Curtis

      How come everyone is forgetting 8ball&MJG OR UGK????????????

    • The B

      Did yall forget about M.O. Muthafuckin P!!

    • Anonymous

      @ Divine You're list isn't bad at all. But Outkast may be the best duo ever, and NOT strictly based on album sales either. Ultimately, from a longevity standpoint (20 yrs worth of material) Mobb is top 2 duos of all time.

    • Anonymous

      Outkast is the best duo of all time. All those groups you name...there is not one rapper better than Andre 3000. Plus every album they have drop has been creative and sold more. Outkast is the best duo ever hands down no comparison. If they drop one more classic then nobody will ever touch them forever.

    • Anonymous

      actually, tribe is not a duo.

    • divine1-2

      *Correction* Actually, Tribe and Mobb are best duos of all time..

    • divine1-2

      RUN-DMC>>>>>>>>>>Clipse Heltah Skeltah>>>Clipse EPMD>>>>>>>>>>>>>Clipse Little Brother>>>Clipse Tribe>>>>>>>>>>>>Clipse De La Soul>>>>>>>Clipse Slum Village>>>>>Clipse *MOBB DEEP>>>>>>>EVERYBODY *Only if Malik B. never left Black Thought and The Roots..then, this would be a debate.

  • GBtha G

    NWA didnt really fall so fuck what u muthafuckaz wrote. As 4 havoc he's fucked up mentally diz dayz his ideas are worthless.... no wonder he cant live without punk msnbc!!! biaaatch.

  • Anonymous

    Mobb Deep is WHACK AS FUCK! They always have been, too. Havoc's got good beats, but he's no better on the mic than any other NY or even Cali rapper from the 90's. Prodigy is the most overrated lyricist there is; this nigga is straight trash. I admit, I started off not liking these niggaz bc Pac didn't like him and I was a lil nigga; but Pac didn't like Jay Z, Biggie, the Fugees, Nas, and others two and I actually began to like those dudes when I actually heard their shit. I listened to Murder Music and it just drove it all home for me: Mobb Deep is just whack. I understand a lot of ppl like that grimy, QB style, but Nas, Nature, Mega, Nore, and others do it better than Prodigy and Havoc....and they get embarrassed SIGNIFICANTLY less!

    • Anonymous

      You're crazy. P was a young god on the mic back then and everybody knew that. P is top 5 by default for the verses on 'Still Shinin'' and 'Apostle's Warning' alone.

    • commentlikeme

      Your on some other shit. To say they alright or not your cup of tea is one thing but to say they're whack your crazy. I'm a huge Mobb fan so my point is biased. Just explain what makes them whack? Can you even? They have a entire catalog of hits. Their shows are 2+ hours of back to back hits. HIT records! Quiet Storm still gets burn everyday what are we 13 years later. Every artist with exception of right now Kanye, Jay, Lloyd Banks... Every artist is a flash in the pan 1 month run on to the next one. Even Drake as big as he is no ones playin his stuff from last year, but they still bangin Mobb records from their entire catalog on a regular basis.

    • Anonymous

      absolutely true

  • divine1-2

    From a "lyrical duo" standpoint, laced with in-house production, Mobb Deep is the best group ever. When its all said and done Mobb was the best ever. You can debate all you want. They can EASILY drop Mobb albums for the next 10+ years and still be relevant to Hip-Hop.

    • Anonymous

      outkast is the best group. Their catalog is not fucking with outkast. I know you NY Niggas or East Coast Niggaz are bias but Outkast is the best duo of all time. Andre 3000 is a better rapper than P or Havoc. Not to mention the ground breaking albums they made together. Aquemni is better than any album Mobb Deep has come out with. Where anybody can relate to it. I from the south and Im Mobb Deep fan but they not better than UGK or Ghetto Boys as a group. Im not hating but its the truth.

  • sicken

    Smh niggas fuckin kill me talkin that "he fell off" shit aight well name just one crew takin the mobbs or ANY legends place? And I mean stat for stat classic for undeniable classic, plaque for plaque longevity for longevity? U got 3 cats...maybe...and the ones running the game is cut from the same cloth as every other legend yall tryin to shit on....Yall quick to bitch n moan about niggas falling off and being over rated when your generation aint got shit to show for themselves or the culture. Who ever questions these media outlets and their agenda? Yeah all this shit sucks yeah im not feelin it fuck twitter etc my thing why u feel u have to fall for for the media games like u have no mind of your own? Nah u dont have to be a fan but what good is being a dick about it when your a miserable fuck thats fed up with the state of music anyway? Half u cats just need to go the jersey shore route and fist pump...your a cancer....

  • Sensaye252

    I'd rather they break up than forge a phony relationship. If there's no chemistry between them, it's gonna show up in the music. It's rare to see rap duos these days, especially rap duos with good chemistry, because technology allows rappers to not even be in the same studio anymore when collaborating and it effects the music.

    • commentlikeme

      Valid Point! To all these young guys trashing Mobb and 90s artists. We understand you can't live without your watered down Mainstream Drakes, Lil Bs, Waynes, Gucci, juicman rappers etcetc. But!! There's still millions of people checking for 90s artists. Technically Slaughterhouse is proof 90s artists are still relevant. You simply can't compare YMCMB to WuTang or Gucci and Waka to Mobb Deep! You can't. I know I speak for a lot of people when I say MOBB actually maters SIGNIFICANTLY even in todays industry!

  • sense

    I didnt even bother to read whatever these "journalist" have to say. U guys are the know it alls u know what kind of generation were in, why would u need to know how these internet dudes feel about mobb deep when u push the mindstate that "ny hip hop, real hip hop, street shit" or whatver yall callin it is played out already?

  • Anonymous

    no disrespect to epmd but imo mobb deep is the best two man group ever they was putting out classic material at a very young age forget classic thats overused lets say timeless material

  • Anonymous

    All this debate over two washed up bums who have now resorted to fighting each other instead of handling their business. Time moves on. What seemed fresh and gritty back in the 90's isn't what most want to hear now. It's not like they just fell off. They've been falling for years... Spans of albums. I can understand being a fan and wanting them to make a proper comeback, but comebacks are only resigned for people who feel that motivation in the first place. Who had success and know how to get it again. Mobb was never that successful. Murda Musik was their sales winner, but that was only one album. Move on. The past is the past. If they want to break up, who cares???

  • commentlikeme

    Prodigy IMO is the greatest rapper to ever do it. Infamous 5/5 Hell on Earth 5/5 Murda Muzik 5/5 Infamy 5/5 Free Agents 5/5 Americas Nightmare 5/5 Blood Money 3.5/5 HNIC1 5/5 Return of the Mac 5/5 HNIC2 5/5 Product of the 80s 4/5 The only album that suffered was Blood Money, I'm not blaming 50. There was no stand out Noyd track no IM3 collab no hook from Chinky. If you add that Blood Money would prob have fit the catalog. No ones flawless 100% of the time. If they break up we can all count on P making solid music and hearing various artists rock on Havs beats. The Kush and Hidden Files just couldn't do it for me without P in the mix. P by far holds the Mobb Deep sound together. As a avid fan I love the new stuff (HNIC3 mixtape) P rappin in double time on a few joints and sounding real good. Lyrics are always going to be my factor in listening to P and he sure as hell still comes across with a A+ at 36 years old. 36 isn't old when you have Eminem and Jay Z doing fine well into their 40s. God Bless Mobb and their legacy!

  • Luke

    Mobb Deep's "legacy" has been dead since the late 90's. Stop riding their dick and talking about past. When they come up with some quality music that makes the relevant again, then i'll shut up.

  • cdo

    SHOOK ONES part 2 can't touch it. sopranos had a wack finale still legendary. mobb deep 4ever. fuck all you evil media blood suckas looking for bullshit. infamous. hell on earth. murda muzik. ton of bangaz since. keep talkin shit. you gotta die to get your respect in rap.

  • Anonymous

    There first 3 albums were great, but they've been a laughable joke for years now, only people who deny it are fanboys who refuse to let go of the past "Yo son, the mobb still got it, didnt you hear Return of the Mac??" Yeah, I heard it, an entire album of Alchemist bangers Prodigy wasted with his downsyndrome flow. And Havocs beats aint what they use to be either, I dont care if its alcahol or just falling off to blame, the music aint as good as what it once was They should call it a night and walk away with the few shreds of dignity they have left

  • Lordroc

    It's been known for years in Queens that these 2 have not always gotten along since before the G-Unit deal. With that being said though I always had a lot of respect for them to keep it together for the sake of public perception, music, legacy, etc. I think they both are still extremely talented and I think P's been a quality workhorse since before prison and continued where he left off when he got out. They can definitely survive on their own if you ask me but the Tweet beef shit is a bad look, They're in their mid 30's, let's not b immature, act like adults about it and go your separate ways peacefully and with dignity. I hate to see it happen this way but if this is all true it is what it is.

  • Anonymous

    Nope it just looks like the media tired to though

  • land lord

    Though its obvious they're not together anymore I hope they can respectively get their career's poppin again. Prodigy as a solo artist & Hav as a producer.

  • fernandop

    Blood money was str8 classic. me and my dog were bumpin that banging hoes in the dominican. specially that track 3 with banks. also black cocaine was classic too. havocs hidden files and return of the mac. they aint lost no wind. MOBB... BITCH

  • jason

    idk i mean blood money album was good but slept on then you got the black cocaine EP that dropped this year and it was so so. idk Prodigy but i know Havoc straight up ignored my homie and hes a hot up and coming producer tryin make it in this game and we in Hollywood where hip-hop gets no love right now cause LA has been riding that pop dick for decades now!! We buy all these older cats albums and really idolize them cause venting on a mic and making more money than the President is a glamorous job but then we hit these cats up for advice or send them tracks and they ignore our asses i mean what the fuck we need to unite and give pointers in life for those who are still livin hard.

  • L

    LMAO!!! These "dudes" @ dudes ...have been OVER since Pac destroyed them in 96 - ya'll STILL follow these MF's - so this is why ya'll storys wack a lot of the times...this explains a lot. smdh #yourworldthissmall

  • interessant

    Great piece! Such a crying-ass shame. I agree with Jake

  • The Ice Cold Phenom

    There's a war going on outside nobody's safe from ~Prodigy The Infamous and Murda Muzik are the best of the best albums from Mobb. In terms of all time rap groups, they are not in the top 10 but surely somewhere in the top 20.