In September, Lord Jamar made controversial statements, claiming that artists such as Macklemore & Ryan Lewis are pushing a “gay agenda” that does not belong in Hip Hop.

In a recent interview on Vlad TV, the Brand Nubian emcee explained his stance more fully. “At the end of the day, it’s not about being against homosexuality or being against white people,” said Jamar. “It’s about being against the power that be, trying to make the unnatural, natural. And the natural, unnatural. If you really think about it, every facet of life, they are trying to make the unnatural, natural. From the food we eat, to the air we breathe, to the type of sexual relationships we have.”

Jamar continued, “Let’s just take the emotion out of this real quick. I just want to follow this hypothetical thing to its natural conclusion. Let’s say, hypothetically, tomorrow, we all turn gay. Everybody is now gay. Man is with man; woman is with woman. How do we, as a species, reproduce ourselves? Man on man can’t make a child… so how do we reproduce ourselves? I’ll tell you how: unnaturally. We’d have to do it through test tubes and things of that nature.”

Ultimately, Lord Jamar stated that his stance has nothing to do with the rights of one person to love another. “We have to look past what seems, on face value, to be an issue, as far as sexual rights and the rights of others to love each other,” he said. “That’s not what it’s about. That’s not what it’s about. At the end of the day, this goes right up there with birth control, condoms, and sending people to jail, and murder, drugs, and all the other things and tools that have been used to try to control the population.”

Watch the interview below:

Lord Jamar’s original statements about Macklemore also included an assertion that white rappers are “guests” in Hip Hop, a statement that elicited responses from both Necro and Kool G Rap.

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