Odd Future resident crooner Frank Ocean recently paid a visit to Hot 97 to speak with Angie Martinez for a rare interview. During the conversation, the singer-songwriter spoke on recording with The Throne (“No Church in the Wild,” “Made in America”) and how Jay-Z made him nervous at first.

“I rarely do collabs, so that was just one of the ones you absolutely do. It’s like a no-brainer. I didn’t really think about any of it,” he said. “The first seven minutes or so of working with Jay – I won’t even say it was seven minutes, but the initial walk in, sit down, put your bag down, he wasn’t saying anything and I was nervous. But as soon as we started talking… He was super cool. I think he was just trying to make me nervous, make me sweat. It seemed a little intentional. It was all good. We were laughing.”

He explained that he recorded with Jay for his solo album first, and that his sessions for The Throne came later.

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“I worked with Jay, just me and Jay, on his album, his solo album, before I did the Watch the Throne sessions,” he continued. “But the second time I went, I walked into a room, it was Barry Weiss, Jay, Beyonce, Kanye, a couple other people in the room. It was a pretty heavy room. I got a panda hat on my head.”

Listen to the rest of the interview below, where he speaks on his major label debut, Odd Future and more. 



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