Atlantic Records is under fire for not adequately compensating producers.
In a recent interview with DJ Pain 1 via BeatStars, E. Dan of the Pittsburgh production team ID Labs brought up that Atlantic has — in his experience — released projects as mixtapes or street albums as a way to avoid paying him his normal production costs.
The point was specifically made when he was discussing his work on Snow The Product’s Good Nights & Bad Mornings 2: The Hangover.
“They didn’t treat it like an album, which was their way of not paying me a whole lot,” E. Dan said with a laugh.
He also discussed how Wiz Khalifa’s Khalifa project was handled in a similar fashion.
“I can’t remember if they called it a street album … they had some clever name that meant I got paid half of what I normally do,” he noted. “Anything to save a buck for these labels.”
Having helped to shape the musical careers of artists of acts like both Khalifa and Mac Miller from their artistic inception, this situation seems especially poignant.
Producers Marvel Alexander and Snugsworth — the producers behind A$AP Ferg’s hit record “Shabba” — told DJ Booth about a similar situation they had with RCA Records, which dropped the song before signing an official contract. The label later coerced them into accepting a much smaller rate — $500 to be exact — by referring to Ferg’s album as a mixtape.
Not surprisingly, producer Sonny Digital chimed in on the situation — which was first reported by DJ Booth — noting that if we’re going to point the finger at Atlantic, we should also acknowledge the more widespread wrongdoing in the industry.
“Shit Cash Money was dropping actual albums and wasn’t even paying the producers,” he tweeted. “You can’t just single out one party when all other parties are doing the same.”
Digital has been vocal about the overall lack of disrespect towards producers in the past, even suggesting that producers need a union to help prevent situations like this.
“You take the beats off of them vocals, and you know it’ll sound like shit … y’all need to start respecting the producers a little more, big or small.”
E. Dan has since issued a response, explaining that he wasn’t bothered by the situation.
“I was happy to get paid what I did for the [Wiz Khalifa] project,” he said. “While not ideal, half of my usual rate for working on a Wiz Khalifa album is still a much better rate than I would get from a developing or indie artist’s album.”
You can read his full response here.
industry rule #4080…. shit only five HUNDRED for that Asap Ferg shit? Song was a pretty decent hit.. 10-15 years ago that kinda beat coulda yielded 20k or more.
Five hunnit for a beat. They are being jevved by the jevvs who own the labels. Who’s surprised? Not me. But hey let’s just call them “rich white people” right. Never mind the big ass jevvish elephant in the room. #BlameWhitey
“Herbert C. Abramson (November 16, 1916 – November 9, 1999) was an American record company executive, record producer, and co-founder of Atlantic Records.. Abramson was born in 1916 to a Jevvish family in Brooklyn.” -Wikipedia article on Herb Abramson
Why do producers hand the beat over before a contract is in place? This is how you avoid getting ripped off – no contract no beat. Any beat used of mine from any sessions will be charged for at x rate. If you are drawn in to handing it over before this is signed you have failed to protect yourself. Basic business
Producers need to make them mferspay up front. It’s not hard to do.
No Money……No Beat…. No producer should hand any beat over for free.
“Digital has been vocal about the overall lack of disrespect towards producers in the past, even suggesting that producers need a union to help prevent situations like this.”
Lack of disrespect? Get it tf together, HipHopDX….
Ha… Digital must think producers deserve to be disrespected, and that there isnt enough disrespecting going on!
Thats crazy. You never hear about this kind of stuff in other Genres SMH. That’s why producers are turning into artist now. They all rap and DJ because labels STAY running off on them and not paying.