T-Pain and Akademiks got into a spirited debate after the Godfather of Auto-Tune suggested 2Pac would be remembered differently had he survived the 1996 shooting.
The conversation, which took place on Akademiks’ Twitch channel, kicked off after the media personality brought up how interesting it would’ve been if social media existed when 2Pac was beefing with Biggie. Before Akademiks could finish his sentence, T-Pain hopped in with what he described as “some bullshit” — and proceeded to deliver his unpopular opinion.
“‘Pac would’ve gotten killed sooner [if social media existed] and he would’ve gotten his ass ate the fuck up lyrically,” T-Pain said, to which Ak replied, “Whoa, whoa, whoa. What!?” T-Pain continued, “Lyricism wise, ‘Pac would’ve got ridiculously murdered. Bro, ‘Pac was a crazy lyricist in our time because ain’t nobody else have no platform.”
“If the platforms would’ve been what they are now, ‘Pac would’ve been ate the fuck up […] I’m just saying what we look at as ‘Pac’s greatest lyrics right is peanuts to what we hear today.”
When Akademiks said he consider 2Pac to be more of a poet, T-Pain agreed, adding, “‘Pac is a full fucking poet. Pac was — if not the — one of the greatest lyricist at the time, but if we would’ve had social media back then and everybody would’ve been able to have their opinion, there would’ve been way the fuck more disrespectful n-ggas at the time. They would’ve been dying to be more disrespectful to ‘Pac.”
He continued, “If ‘Pac was alive right now, they would’ve discredited everything he said just because he was old. That’s it. He would’ve been saying the same thing as the young n-ggas, but it would’ve been less credit ’cause he’s old.
If ‘Pac was alive right now, over 20 years later, and he would’ve been talking that same shit that he’d been talking from the beginning, but somebody younger would’ve came and talked that shit a little more disrespectful would’ve stepped on somebody’s grave and that would’ve been the new n-gga and then all of a sudden, 2Pac would’ve been out of style.”
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The dogmatic producer/rapper wouldn’t budge on his stance and concluded, “The only thing you gotta do to make people get on that new is make them feel bad about being on that old thing still.”
Of course, T-Pain’s comments didn’t sit right with fans of the late, great Tupac Shakur. In an Instagram post shared by The Art of Dialogue, T-Pain quickly became public enemy number one. As one person wrote, “T-Pain hella washed for the last 10 years. Biggie wouldn’t even respond. That says enough.” Another person said, “Don’t act like lyrics don’t come better with time. From Me against the world to Makaveli every album got better lyrically. Get your mind right.”
Watch the clip above.
Sit yo ass down T-Pain, your opinion has zero weight and you don’t even make any sense.
T Pain just be talking. Everybody that matters already had his respect or feared him. Maybe Canibus or Eminem could’ve outrapped him but nah nappy boy, you trippin
Pac was no lyricist I am sorry he had this unbelievable charm and pasion, he had an awesome voice and flows, he had platinum hits and the dopest beats at the time but his lyrics was average and monothematic like most of his records were the same verse again and again, but none of that matters because the songs were ducking great and still are, and all that ‘what if’ talk is wack because we will never know what could have been
Pac wasn’t much of a lyricist but had a raw passion that made him dope. Same goes for rappers like DMX. Nobody loved DMX claiming he was a lyricist. With this said, nobody knows what Pac would’ve been or done had he been alive today. I personally think he would’ve been a businessman more than an entertainer. Biggie likely would’ve gone full radio.
lol where are all these amazing lyricists now then?
First off, f-ck T-Pain and the clique you claim!
I don’t think he is shitting on pac with his comments at all.
PAC doesn’t even care about rap he just wanted to be famous and if he was alive now he most likely would have dropped out of making music and went on to something else using rap like a stepping stone.
He only out on them tattoos and started acting gangster because he HAD TOO at the time to make it in rap.
If he was in this generation instead of that one he would probably be dancing around in a dress with purple hair like he really wanted to.
and it’s so hard to be positive
when triggers shooting at ya crib
Mama I’m Still thuggin/ the world is a warzone
T-PAIN, STAY SAYING CORNY STUFF. JUST STFU.
T pain a bozo pac would rap circles around a majority of these so called rappers foh
He right lol. Tupac will always be fire, but he died before he ever had the face the community he influenced. He aint no Kendrick. He aint no Andre 3000. Dont get me started on the 2000’s era with folks like Ghostface, Goodie Mob, and Jay Z actually grinding and not just floating at the top like they do now. He wouldnt be near yall’s top 5 if he didnt die. TPain out here writing all your faves biggest hits and yall think he cant recognize a good writer from an ok one? YALL trippin
Aside from Kendrick everyone one you named had projects out before Pac died and couldn’t f#ck wit Pac until he was dead
Wu-Tang was doing they thing while Pac was here,and Pac had Goodie Mobb set to be on his One Nation project with Outkast and others
FUCKIN FACTS!
Take heed Snoop, Nas, Jay Z, etc., anybody that still rockin and relevant to this day, T Pain thinks your washed and sucks. T Pain might be projecting a bit, sounds like.
You can’t try to compare what someone would be in a different era or different times. That’s like saying well nobody would care what MLK or Malcolm was saying if they were around now a days. People are who they are based on the times and what’s going on. Rappers in the 80’s and 90’s were stars based on some mystic, we couldn’t pick up a phone or computer and see them whenever, so anytime their song came on the radio you had to cherish it, then video shows came out and it made them even bigger. So what made rappers more of a star in their day, the same applies to rappers today, the mystic of rarely been seen is gone, now it’s about being seen as much as possible, that’s what the internet has done. I don’t knock that because like I said people are who they are based on the era they lived in. Why can’t people get the respect for what they did?? vs people looking for something negative about them or something potential that would have happened.
? Pac was a content guy! He had beef with some of the best lyricist of all time and did well. Beef with Nas, Biggie, and Nigga when they all dropped their best albums! Pac was an above average lyricist but his music was about how it made you feel!!! T Pain is another sub-literate Bama that thinks he knows something about lyrics. Today’s unlyrical rappers wouldn’t have done shit to Pac. Go cry about Usher, Minaj, and Nigga hurting your feelings T-Pain.
Welp. T-Pain joins the long list of f ckboys speaking bad about Pac since his demise. I’m glad I never listened to none of these weirdos
*I meant Jigga not Nigga. Do better with spell check. Jigga is not a typo. WTF??
If Tupac was here today, T-Pain would probably be begging for Pac to teach him how to rap and make hits besides that Autotune bs. 90% of these rappers wouldn’t even be here. All that drill shit would be dead and Drake wouldn’t be around. Em would be around because I truly think Pac would fuck heavy with Em..
Could have easily been said by The Game as well. Two true has beens
Pac was an average MC at best, nothing mind blowing, I know its not a popular opinion but pac’s mystique is what got him over not lyrical ability.
It was more than mystique, Often times the one who is considered best overall, best rapper lyrically is rarely ever the most liked or the one that’s the most listen to. Drake isn’t close to being the most lyrical but can argue more people listen to his music and he has the biggest influence. What people want to listen to isn’t based on who’s the most lyrical, It’s a mixture of things including production/beats, flow, subject matter, passion, emotion, relateability. This is why people loved Nip, regardless of what people think after Nip died, he had a underground cult like following because he was great at picking good production/beats,flow was decent, and what he rapped about was relateable, getting out, strategizing, investing, ownership etc. Pac mystique wasn’t what got him over it was his talent. He didn’t have to rap another day in his life after movies like Juice and poetic justice came out he still would have been a success just doing movies.
All hip hop is an average genre. The shit would get laughed out of any real literature or poetry class, which is why I laugh when somebody says this dude is amazing, lol. However, nobody fucking with him on putting songs together or his passion. It’s why somebody will still be talking about him in 25 more years while others are forgotten.
tupac was true poet. ur dumb lean drinking ass should sit the fuck down and let the man rest in peace u wouldnt dare say that if he was here.
Pac was wack!! Super trash! He ain’t have no quotable rhymes! Nobody ever plays Pac in the spot on random. Pleaseeeee!
He got packed up!
Pac was a follower! Pac was NOT Gangster! and his bars was trash!
Pac was a leader and your stupid.
Makaveli and you’re. Dumb ass. LOL I bet you were shaking typing that comment
Pac’s record sales do all the talking. Numbers ladies and gentlemen.
I’m not much of a Pac fan but I think he’s true strength was in his passion when he rapped. He says stuff like that but at the same time is Waka or Gucci Mane lyrical? No and they’ve had massive success. To all things come an end just ask Rakim, Big Daddy Kane and a bevy of others that were the Pacs of their time
Did u jus say waka, gucci and lyrical in the same sentence?
People still don’t get it. Tupac wasn’t a star because of his lyrical ability. He was a star because he knew the pulse of the community and spilled the emotions/frustrations into records.
Yep. He was a Black Panther disciple, and he embodied that shit on wax. It’s why people still rock with him. Dummies still trying to break it down to some songs, which he was better than the rest of them at making too btw.
Pac stans catching feelings lmao. T-Pain a clown but he 100% right on this one. Pac was overrated af. Stay mad dickriders.
Overrated how? Compare whoever’s you think is better then PAC songs. Name a song better then Keep Ya Head Up, Brenda Gotta Baby, Dear Mama from your top rapper I’ll wait.
You’re a little excited there aren’t you? Must be from you dickriding a washed up man over his opinion. Regardless of the female behavior from you, Pac still a legend.
Did T-Pain buy you a drank?
Just remember, Tpain one of the wackest lyricists ever is saying. Whos better than pac in mainstream rap? Megan stallion, Little Wayne? Or any of those other corny sounding mfers.
Yeah, because all of these top flight lyricists have come into the game the last 25 years, lol. Not to mention he swam with the sharks when he was in the game and made the game what it is so wack mofos that use autotune could make a living out of bum fuck Tallahassee. Does dude realize that Nas, Jay, Biggie, and other people who could cut the head off of these wack rappers now were there in 96, and none of them were fucking with Pac because he shone that bright?
“he would’ve got ridiculously murdered.”
#nocap
All cap. Nobody could predict anything. Especially a washed up T Pain.
“ weak motherfuckers don’t deserve to breathe how many niggaZ down to ride for me.. yay yay west coast rider comin right besidecha shoulda never fucked with me.. I want money hoes sex and weed .. I won’t stop til my road dogs… bomb 1st.
You can feel this emotion being yelled in the verse… So fucking hard on the mic, go blast bomb first and tell me Pac isn’t fuccing hard on the mic. If you disagree you’re prolly under 25. Boom
Ur an idiot. Hit em up!
Go hit up your penis with your hand boi boi
The difference is we didnt have bitch made troll in comments sections. U boys are some gross pussies. But pussies non the less.
EXACTLY what you are doing right now: making some bitch ass keyboard warrior troll comments in some comment section….. You went full circle retard, fool.
I like T-pain a lot but these comment he made are dumb af. First off, if social media was out back then it wouldn’t of made a difference. Have y’all not heard and seen the countless interview he’s done talking crap and calling out rappers by name and making threats and also dissing them on songs? Everyone he talked about was well aware of what he said about them. Second, saying he would of been “ate tf up” if he lived implies they ppl he was dissing would of finally responded and torched him. We heard bggies diss he conveniently released after Pac died that was weak as hell and we got a clip of Nas’ alleged diss last year which is below average for the energy Pac was bringing and let’s face it. Jay z wasn’t that good in 1996 despite Reasonable Doubt being a good album. So nah T-pain tripping with this one and just saying dumb shit for clickbait once again.
We remember ‘Hit em up’ a raw savage diss if there ever was one. If Pac was still alive he’d be spitting bars on another all about goofy T-pain!
T-Pain man you’re wack, but I Ain’t Mad at ‘cha. When Usher told you that you’re bad for music, you probably locked yourself in your pink bedroom for a week listening to Keep Yo Head Up while crying into your fluffy pillows. GTFOH
this burn is so soft that it smells like undercovers
So T-Pain says Pac was one of, “if not the” greatest lyricist of all time, but claims he would be eaten up lyrically now? How does that make any sense? Also, had Pac lived his lyricism and artistry would have continued to evolve, Pain is talking as if Pac would have just stopped making music at that point.
Hate to break it to homey, but Pac was ridiculously murdered.
People are still talking about Pac almost 30 years after his death. How long will they be talking about T-Pain once he’s gone?
If T-Pain said that dumb shit when Pac was alive he would’ve got slapped silly
Yes he was a great lyricist. He was also an abusive monster who assaulted women. May his soul burn for all of eternity.