Irv Gotti was a recent guest on Fat Joe’s Instagram Live show, The Fat Joe Show, where he made an interesting revelation about the beef between the late Tupac Shakur and JAY-Z.
According to the Murder Inc. founder, he says it all started with the 1996 Reasonable Doubt track “Brooklyn’s Finest” featuring The Notorious B.I.G. Gotti said he initially warned Hov not to do the song.
“Me knowing Jay how I know Jay, now I’ll go back to ‘Brooklyn’s Finest,'” Gotti begins. “I was dead set against it. I was telling Jay, ‘Don’t do it, don’t do it’ and he was like, ‘Why?’ I was like, ‘Big, he’s too strong. Before we take over the world, we gotta take over the West Coast.
“Before we take over the West Coast, we gotta take over the East Coast. Before we take over the East Coast, we gotta take over New York. Before we take over New York, you gotta take over Brooklyn and he owns all that.’ And I was like, ‘This n-gga’s not a wack n-gga.’ I was in fear like, ‘Yo, you may came off like his little man, you understand?'”
When Joe asked if he meant he wanted them to battle, he replied, “I didn’t want them to battle, I just wanted him to do it without his assistance because we was friends with Big. Big was at the ‘Ain’t No N-ggas’ set. We used to go these Italian restaurants and eat. Big was a friend.”
Still, Gotti had his reservations.
“On a business level, this n-gga is so hot, I don’t know if y’all be able to get him,” he continues. “If you listen to ‘Brooklyn’s Finest’ — I want everybody to go listen again. Jay did his four bars and Big did his four bars … this is just my opinion. I’m not speaking for Hov. If you listen to the record, he was getting at him. But I said, ‘Big is gonna sniff it out.'”
He raps, “‘Yeah, they told me you was holding more drugs than a pharmacy/You ain’t harmin’ me so pardon me.’ He was going right back at him. That’s why ‘Pac was shitting on Jay because of ‘Brooklyn’s Finest.’ [Raps again] ‘If Fay had twins/She’d probably have two Pacs,’ get it? and Jay’s on the record with him so now he’s like, ‘Fuck you, ain’t no n-gga like me, fuck JAY-Z’ and he starts bombing on Jay.”
‘Pac and Jay didn’t beef as hard as ‘Pac beefed with Big. But following ‘Pac’s 1996 murder, two of his posthumous tracks — “Bomb First (My Second Reply)” and “Fuck Friendz” — included some shots at Hov. Although Jay was armed with a rebuttal, longtime Jay producer DJ Clark Kent said it was never released “out of respect” for the slain legend.
“It never came out out of respect for the fact that he died,” Kent said during a 2015 podcast called A Waste Of Time With ItsTheReal. “Jay did a record going at ‘Pac, but just as it was about to come out, son died…We performed it, though. We performed it once. You have to understand. The chip on Jay’s shoulder is so crazy, it’s just like he had to perform it.”
Jay-Z was a nobody when 2pac was alive. And after pac died, Dmx and Master P and Cash Money Records took over. Jay-Z had to get UGK on a Song to win people over and bite Biggie lyrics and say biggie name all the time.
U R High!!! Reasonable Doubt is a classic!!! Jay been platinum ever since. PAC is a great, a legend! Biggie is as well. I’m not taking anything away from either of them. Wish they both was still here. But don’t try and dismiss what Jay has done in the game. Dudes are still trying to get to his level. He his right up there with them.
I side with hold ya head, what song of Jay-Z people would jam just in general… Nobody jam jay-Z at parties, cook outs and just rolling around the town. Classic lyrics that nobody remembers… He was a bitter, penis rider and a Nas Hatter. DMX was way better… He a good business man, but far as rap, his voice is irritating and nerdy, and way over rated.
1996 was pac year, nobody was topping 2pac, biggie and bone thugs and Nas was the only rappers that was selling major albums at that time. After pac died, Then came Biggie new album,No limit, Ruff Ryder’s, Cash Money, 8 ball MJG, UGK, Dr.Dre 2nd Album. I still don’t know how Jay-Z is looked at a Top Dawg. He was a good telemarketer…
Dont 4get Outkast my dude…the south was doing its thang while the east and west was in the bs….Scarface as well
Jay wouldn’t be a threat to B.I…let’s be clear…that was Big’ s lil man….If Big was alive he and Nas would have collided not jigga….he was on Bigs dick to get on during that era(nigga changed his WHOLE FLOW) just like he tried to use Nas…if Pac and Big not died….nigga would NOT have blown100
Biggie saw Jay as a lyrical rival….he went back and rewrote a verse after hearing Jays so you guys on here saying what jay is not and is is really laughable….Ill take Bigs respect over you guys say sos anyday
this shit is like 24 yrs old ….. slow mews day huh
Mews day. Poke Ball…Go Lol…Gotta Catch Em All.. I guess
Jay got lucky and positioned himself correctly throughout his career. He always used the hottest artist out to help with his singles and promotion. Put Big on Reasonable Doubt. Used Puffy on Vol. 1 right after Bigs Death because Puffy had the buzz. Used Ja Rule and DMX when they were topping charts and then Eminem, Lil Wayne, and so on and so on. He capitalized on the right features at the right time. Never really stayed his own lane. But he is a legend in his own right. Never considered him top 5 though and still believe if Pac was alive, Jay would be nowhere near what he is now. Pacs voice and influence was too strong
Irv Gotti is constantly flaunting how much of a snake and a sucker he is… This is why he is no longer in the position he was once in and no one in their right mind will ever fuck with him on that level in the industry so he’s forced to these interviews… Exposing why he no longer has power in the industry.
Its true Jay wasn’t really a threat back then to Pac. Pac just threw a few jabs at Jay but he actually saw Nas as the biggest threat out of The East.
I think Jay would have still blew at least to some degree if Pac and Big never died, because son is actually nice. But Jay probably would’ve been to Big like what Fab is to Jay.
Jay couldn’t fuck with Pac. Pac had a way of taking all the air out the room. That subliminal shit would have been met with something a hundred times harder than Ether.
How do you figure Jay Z wouldn’t blow up because of 2pik? Really? Look at rap today who’s kicking these Lil Baby’s out of rap? Nobody. 2pik wouldn’t have done sh!t to any of them he was hiding behind Suge the while time and Suge was robbing HIM. Naqqa had bigger problems than enforcing ‘thug life’ in rap. Also Ether never kilt Jay he’s still bigger than Nas
So a pop mc who dumbed down his style made a song with another pop mc in the bronze age. The first pop mc had a beef with a gangsta rapper who sold his soul to a real gangster to turn himself a pop mc, too. Very interesting. tell me more.
HIT EM UP d hardest, most disrespectful n most confrontational diss song to date! Pac was fearless! Niggaz couldnt stop him so the had 2 plot against him. He was a problem 2 niggaz! THUG LIFE 4EVA!
You’re a proper thug life faqqot son …… HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
Outlawz for life in the name of the don makaveli. Let the haters hate because they all know TUPAC is the GOAT!! its THUG LIFE bbbaaabbbyy!!!