Ah, the culture vulture argument, one that seemingly never dies. White rappers (ahem, Eminem) are constantly slapped with that label — no matter their skills or diamond-selling status.
On Tuesday (November 12), Tech N9ne shared a black-and-white video clip to his Instagram account, explaining how he’s influenced by all types of music, including gospel, blues R&B, rock, jazz and, of course, Hip Hop.
He then broached the culture vulture topic.
“I am just doing music that I love and feel,” he said. “Not only do I do Hip Hop shows, I do rock shows and festivals and shit. I can open for Kanye and 2 Chainz and the next day do Knotfest, nigga! I’ve done it. In that order.
“So when you see me at rock shows and you know my base is in Hip Hop, does that make me a culture vulture? NO! So, what the fuck y’all saying about Eminem then? Like he didn’t grow up listening to Hip Hop. Y’all know he did.”
Slim Shady has been accused of being a culture vulture numerous times.The legendary Stevie Wonder once referred to him that way for criticizing the late Michael Jackson.
Naturally, Shady’s most outspoken critic Lord Jamar couldn’t help himself and weighed in on the matter during one of his numerous sessions on DJ Vlad’s couch.
“Don’t come here trying to disrespect our cultural icons like, how dare you?” he said. “Who do you think you are?”
Evidently, Tecca Nina disagrees.
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“So when you see me at rock shows and you know my base is in Hip Hop, does that make me a culture vulture? NO!” Yes it does. If you gonna make Rock Album out of nowhere, you are vulturing, Tech.
It’s a little different. Rock music was created by black people.
And who created the electric guitar?? Black People vultured to create rock
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The very first electrified guitar was said to have been invented by Paul H. Tutmarc.
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So what? Tools don’t create art, people do. Nobody cares who invented the paint brush but we recognize great painters
Sorry that reply was for someone else
u sound stupid as fuck right now…jus sayin
man stop giving Jamar attention. its like giving a bowel infection sugar.
Somebody get Lord Jamar a popsicle.
I can’t stand it when people hate on Eminem. Is he my favorite? No. Does he do corny shit sometimes? Yes. But when he grew up in the same hood or worse as the rest of us with nothing, is literally one of the best rappers of all time as far as the actual skill goes, and has time after time given respect to the pioneers. I just dont get what anyone wants from him.
Its almost blatantly racist at this point.
Sad part is, when I was young Eminem was 1 of my favorites along with Jayz and Jadakiss. When the discussion would start, people cool. With me talking about Jay or kiss, but soons I mentioned Eminem… They like ooohhh you like the white boy. Get out of here.
In the hood, because he was white he did not get the respect he deserves. They didn’t care about his talent, who he was with, what he brought to the game… They just said we dont want to hear it from a white boy. This was about 20 years ago.
This never happened… You obviously made thats up. #fakenews
Right… Because you know my life. This is what happens when clowns respond.
Eminem being white has been a gift and a curse for him. In the beginning it was a curse because not many people were wanting to sign a “white boy”. Dre looked past it, signed him, and then Eminem became the biggest thing ever partially because he is white. However every now and then, it again becomes a curse because of people saying he’s a culture vulture and this and that. People just can’t let it go.
Youth, Lol I can’t believe you actually think that’s how Eminem got signed! No. He is a product created by music execs to market towards a white market. Eminem was then assigned to Dre and Dre became his handler. Nobody gets famous unless they’re chosen. Unbelievable people still fall for these fake stories about how famous people obtain careers. I’m in the business, by the way.
Haha… I’m in the business, btw. Oh ok, everyone… Fame is an illusion is “in the business”, so he must be telling the truth … haha.. while I am a conspiracy guy myself and I think there are odd ways people are lead into success… you can actually track some people’s story as well. I had first hand knowledge of Sisqo’s odd story, discovered singing at the inner harbor in Baltimore working for a fudge selling spot, you can still go to this spot and listen to their employees sing as they make and sell fudge… a story from back in the day that someone like you will say is not real… but it very much is.. One thing you can’t do though is track someone positing under a statement as a name… who says they are “in the business”.. mfers work for a record store and say they are in the business.. haha..
You guys watch far too many YouTube videos smh.
You know how you’re not in the business? When you have to post in forum that you’re in the business.
My dude…stop believing shit online son, y’all not woke up y’all just in another dream thinking you’re woke.
Eminem as a human is one thing, but as far as the culture, he is hands down the greatest rapper of all time! He has pushed the culture, best lyrics, most sales, been slayed tracks with the other greats. Stop the racism. Musically, hip-hop, poetry, all around… he’s the best period!
When Eminem ‘dissed’ Michael Jackson, Michael was still alive an couldve defended himself…Isnt it really hypocritical how everybodys quick to attack Em for that shit( although as said above, Michael was still alive at that point…) but when a BLACK man (wack100) shits on 2Pac and Nipsey (to those who dont know, theyre both dead) not a single black member of “The CULTURE” attacked Wack100…lol i guess its ok if a black man shits on black men lol…sad but true!!! Lets talk about it:)
Tech NINA disagrees? Wtf!?! Lemme guess: auto correct, right?
I’ve always loved Tech and Eminem from day 1 of both of their careers. Tech’s statement here makes me love both of them that much more. Get ’em N9NA!
So I’m sure there was black and white singers who sang Rock and roll, jazz, souls, and so on. 3rd Bass and lest I forget Beastie boys were in it before Em. Those people need to STFU and leave Em alone.
Eminem made a whole song dissing black girls. Convo over
Ice cube has a whole song dissing white girls called cave bitch.
Whoa a white rapper dissed black girls before he became famous never did it again and apologized for it he is racist and a culture vulture
Black rappers call black girls hoe and bitch and talk about pimping them out in damn near every song for damn near the whole career never apologize and damn near advocate for leaving them as single moms broke and alone whoa they are the man they are the king of all rappers they are the culture
Yeah your right convo over
The best thing em did was signed gxfr to the label because griselda taking next year over for real
Just another way haters hate. They just trying to coat it up like they ain’t being a jealous b**** ?
I don’t hate on em. I just don’t like his music. Good for him he did well just not for me.
Tech 9 working hard for that buttered biscuit.
Everyone gives their opinion like its fact? If your not from DETROIT you have no true opinion. Em’ has stole or borrowed every style hes ever had. Those european cannibalistic lyrics we’re his pen though, but besides that, he just did his Elvis thing. You cant shit on these peoples Elvis, these folks a go crazy. Any intelligent being knows hes a quest in Hip Hop, especially us from the D’s true Hip Hop community. Em’ gets no love down here.
We get it, you hate white people. They’re to blame for you not graduating high school, going in and out of jail, your dad not being in your life and now you’re mad cause Eminem “stole” your music. Just because no one listens to your wack beats on SoundCloud doesn’t mean you gotta whine like a bitch
GETTEM!!!!
Ok let’s get real. In this lazy ass world. We are on a shortage of good rock music.
Black communities a deprived of art In general. And other educational aspects that are not Intriguing.
Being. That I stopped listening to certain music when it got boring.
You bash things your like cause you cant have it.
Music is music where your spend your money is up to you. As an artist you have to understand that your fans are easily whisked off their feet. It’s more like who’s the bigger sucker. WWF entertainment fake wrestling situation. When no one did research and or is getting physical.
We theorize that we go harder than we do. But when a crazy artist pops up.
Talent is talent money is time. Gossip is the new normal. The only thing that matters is how much you sell.
And you have to look at the culture it’s not only black buying it’s not only whites its everyone fro. Different backgrounds.
Now if he is the best at, what no one else can do. That’s his lane.
What he attracts is his venue. People hate what they cant get with. Or can’t do.
Its not like he’s a trap rapper. He came out right after hip hop. Raised on hip hop. And writes amazing mind rattling music. That’s never out dated.
He’s not lying about money cars or hoes. Or tryna manipulate his audience.
He’s not making the game better or harder for anyone. He’s just doing him. I think he answers to himself and really feeds off of us. If you want to be a great artist you might wanna do some research he’s done his homework. Its not like he didn’t take a. Break. My opinion doesn’t change my real motives.
In this statement he really goes off subject. And basically start talking about him self and how he can rectify the situation.
Yet he’s defending him but, culture you mean music or race.
Hoping on or taking over. Vulture prays on the dead. Is this culture really dead or is it broken. Who is really in control.
Cause if the culture isn’t buying it then it is dead. Like boy bands.
Or maybe no one is paying attention but the artists and this or their own bots
Ask chedar bob of the music cultur scene
“Ah, the culture vulture argument, one that seemingly never dies. White rappers (ahem, Eminem) are constantly slapped with that label — no matter their skills or diamond-selling status.” quite possibly the worst intro is history, especially the end. What are you thinking Scott??
I can’t stand hip-hop or anything about it anymore because of how jealous everyone is when a man, and a white man at that has more talent and proved it with his record sales. Y’all just need to grow up and step up your game.
Please stop
I don’t even listen to secular music anymore, because it’s all for the honor and worship of Lucifer, even if they don’t realize it yet. If it doesn’t bring honor and Glory to the Lord Jesus Christ we don’t need to be involved with it as saints of the Almighty.
take your medicine James
And just so y’all know,… everything’s a conspiracy, and there’s no such thing as coincidence.
Jamar is a idiot. How u call Em a vulture on VLADtv… Really?
Sorry youth that was for fame
Man come to the hood and let’s see who listen to you
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Funny cause all the black lirycist right now are influence by eminem
That’s not saiding much.
People in the hood dont play eminem not because they dont fu*& with him is because they dont want other black people to see them lisening to the white boy it always go to race
That’s funny cause one of my black co-workers asked me one time what the family was doing this weekend. I told him my wife was going out to her friends to a Cindi Lauper concert. He said he remembers listening to her back in the 80s and I was like really? He was like yeah but that’s something you listen to when your not with the homeboys cause you get made fun of ?
Whats the world coming to when a black man cant listen to Cyndi Lauper without being criticized? True Colors ir more gangsta then anything Gucci Man ever put out
If theyre too pussy to play what they like then they just aint that hood.
Me being a M.C. From the 70s 80s knowing that have of the people talking don’t even know who Grandmaster Flash is or The Mighty Cold Cursh Brothers or D
For the people that are talking and so called M C. Of today don’t even know who Grandmaster Flash is or The Cold Cursh Four or any of The Founding Forefathers of hip hop me being an M.C. from mid 70s to mid 80s and Mc for D.J.Kid Kapri knew sooner or later hip hop was going to get jacked but people in this game need to learn Hip Hop History Respect The Founding For Father’s and The Foundation before you open your mouth and even in my day there was a D.J name white Flash and a few white Mc so don’t speak untill you know the History
Johnny Walker? I thought you were an MMA fighter.
First off, Eminem isn’t the only white rapper there are a bunch of them some good some not so good some maybe better then Eminem actually. The music’s out there you just need to find it. I have. I wont tell you where it is though cause you need to find it yourself and when you do you will appreciate it that much more.
Em isn’t for everyone I liked his first 3 albums on Aftermath not counting Infinite
and Kamikaze was o.k but could have been better but its still has its moments
Em gets all the back lash because what his status is in the industry he has to probably be one of the biggest artist in the world still regardless of what anyone thinks.
You can stop what can’t be stopped
Eminem will always be Eminem either love him or hate him or neither it really doesnt matter. Remember his whole career before he was famous people doubted him thats what made him what he is. The more you hate him the more fuel it adds to his fire. He probably wakes up and reads these comments to start his day with a good laugh then jump in his Ferrari and hit up Starbucks! Haha
Every rapper that ever battled Eminem lost, and lost bad. Canibus. Benzino. MGK. Ja Rule. Limp Bizkit is among the many Eminem has beefed with, and their rap/rock type. The bottom line is we’re dealing with the Rap God. Lord Jamar, while he may call himself a “culture icon” is lyrically nowhere close to being as nice as Eminem. You battle Shady, you’re gonna lose. White or brown or black. It makes no difference.
Mm battled wack mcs that’s nothing special
Cabinus was out of his prime by the time that “beef” happened. Lol at celebrating beef with goddamn Benzino and Ja Rule. And MGK destroyed Em with facts and a better overall track. Em babbling about unplugged toasters and man buns
Yea and mgk just repeated “you’re old” over and over. It’s obvious you’re a dumbass hater but go listen to killshot and pay attention to all the double entendres and how he reversed everything mgk said and destroyed him. Cannibus was out of his prime? Dude he just fucking raps, what did he lose his rap intelligence all of a sudden? Em destroys everyone, quit hating and deal with it.
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I’m tired of black artists co signing for mathers. He is a sell out. Mathers doesn’t rep hip hop. He sells alot of records because mathers is a pop star and white. His beats are mostly wack. Pop fans love corny shit like mathers. Let’s face it some white fans wouldn’t buy black artists but love to acted black like mathers. He is the worst thing that ever happen to hip hop. Mathers is phony like today’s rapper. His rhyme style is stale. Mathers doesn’t have any soul and charisma. In my opinion, he doesn’t relate to black fans. This is black music not wack ass commercial bullshit. The greatest of all time nope. Mathers is just white goat with black spots.. Go back to the trailer park and learn how to be white. Your an embarrassment to their culture and mine.
Thats your opinion. Biased at that. Its obvious by the hate you talk. Jealous much?
It’s just my opinion buddy but the comments are spot on. Mathers doesn’t bring much to hip hop if at all. He used black co signs to get on. Mathers is a pop star now and doesn’t need black support any more. The definition of a fraud. Why not used white people as co signs? No credibility perhaps. Does mathers like being white?
He inspired tons of rappers and brought others out, like 50 cent. Quit being an idiot, he’s the biggest rap artist ever and everyone vouches for him, you haters are hilarious. Name one rapper that is better, i’ll wait.
Who does mm inspire???? Mathers acts black. Most hip hop artists are black. His pop beats are stale. Marshall lacks black soul, style and confidence. Most underground artists that have talent beat mm. He sells records because mm acts black and is a white pop star. Black culture inspire mm. Mm didn’t inspire black culture. Hip hop artists might be inspired to sell that many corny records. Mm run 8 miles back to the trailer park. He wouldn’t need a black co sign there. This is just my opinion.
Who does mm inspire? Marshall acts black. Most hip hop artists are black.His beats lack soul. Mathers doesn’t have black style and confidence. Mm does not relate to most black fans. Marshall sells the most because he acts black and is a white pop star. Plus, most of the country is white. Mathers need black co signs because he lacks creditiblity. Mm run 8 miles back to the trailer park. He wouldn’t need a black co sign there. I like white hip hop artists that don’t go pop.
Yep, binge watching during COVID- Music history lesson from a Music Historian- The Clavinet (it’s an instrument- I assume your lack of education would need that definition) was used by The Band (Up on Cripple Creek) before Stevie Wonder ever used it on the song Superstition. Think about that for a second – Now- Elvis Presley related with ALL music regardless of race (In the Ghetto- you can’t listen to that song and say black/white). You can’t deny Eminem his ability to word play or his sincerity of true icons of Hip-Hop/Rap. If you do, please go read the letter he wrote to Tu Pac’s mother after he passed and then the letter Tu Pac’s mother sent back along with some rhymes. Music is the universal language. Please let me know if you need more education. My degree likes to give back to people who truly don’t understand MUSIC.
Relish that all y’all are good at rapping and sports. White people didn’t invent much? You kidding?
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Let that sink in… HomeBoyeee.
Now, stay in yo’ hood where you belong.
Kinda makes tech sound stupid by his Rock show statement.. Fact is we created all genres of music. Not to be racist but Caucasians haven’t created much. They’re just masters at taking other people’s ideas and getting rich off of them
LMAO that’s rather racy to say… And also just blatantly incorrect… Not even 1 of today’s major Instruments is based on black/african instruments… What is music without those… Poetry… Also not black/african… So
Y’all just need to calm down and enjoy all aspects of music. There is beauty in all forms of art, no matter if you think its good or bad. Everyone has a different opinion, don’t call it trash or disagree if you dont understand why people like it. Be you, not anyone else. YOU are the one that matters, its universal.
I’m tired of all this black and white shit dude. Music is music. If you dont like it that much then dont fucking listen to it. And then, to criticize someones music for what they put in it is one thing. But to criticize if the artist is black or white. Who gives a fuck. I look up to artist for what they have done in there life and the music they make. Not what race they are.
The culture vulture argument never ends bc it’s interesting. Other than the most blindingly ignorant viewpoints on the fringes of either side, most perspectives have a fair amt of truth to them. With just a wee bit of willingness to listen we can learn a whole lot about each other just based on the thoughts of this particular topic.
Mm is a clown that belongs in the circus. He is a freak. Mm is only a goat to some hip hop fans. Most black fans do not listen to him. We like OUR MUSIC funky, soulful, rhythmic and stylist. Mm does not have those qualities. Black music runs in our veins. Black music started in african not America.
Lol you just have an inferiority complex…stfu clown
Em isn’t a culture vulture, he is just an overrated artist. His career has been inflated because of his race but he openly admits that. No need to try to challenge his legitimacy. But he most definitely is overrated. He isn’t a top 10 mc by a mile.