Royce Da 5’9 hit up Instagram last week to call out Lord Jamar for constantly criticizing Eminem during his VladTV interviews. Now, Jamar has finally responded to Nickel Nine’s commentary with a lengthy tirade of his own.
On Monday (August 26), the always outspoken Hip Hop vet jumped on Instagram Live and gave Nickel Nine his two cents.
“I bet y’all thought I wasn’t going to reply to Mr. Royce Da 5’9,” he began. “Wrong! Let’s unpack this, shall we? An IG just surfaced recently a couple days ago of Royce Da 5’9 talking about me. What up Royce? Apparently you were a little upset — again. I thought the video was old actually. But nope, it’s a new one. People don’t really ask me about you Royce. They ask me about Eminem, but for some reason, you like to respond. OK. I get it. You’re a loyal guy.”
Before he dove into the meat of the situation, Jamar called Royce’s approach “almost passive aggressive.” He pointed out Nickel Nine started his IG video by calling Jamar a “legend,” which he found rather odd.
“Now, let’s just unpack that real quick,”he continues. “The reason why he would call me a ‘legend’ and my group ‘legendary’ is because when Brand Nubian came out, our debut album received five mics in The Source. At that time, The Source was the Hip Hop muthafuckin bible. And to get five mics, not many people had done it at that time. Later on, the publication went down and started giving mics away, but at that time, getting five mics in The Source was some shit.
“Also, when our shit came out, our shit was everywhere. The hood was fuckin’ with us. The suburbs was fuckin’ with us. From the jails to the college dorm, black people white people, like everybody was fuckin’ with Brand Nubian and it was a legendary time. This is when people would buy a tape and you knew you had a poppin album ’cause niggas was riding around the street and all you’d hear was basically one album, or certain albums that were poppin’ at that time.”
The Brand Nubian MC added, “Our run was legendary. Our impact was legendary. We made knowledge of self cool, palatable. People came before us that had knowledge of self. Rakim made it super cool … Big Daddy Kane … but when we came with it, we went just a little deeper and made it a little more palatable.
“A lot of people got knowledge of self through fuckin’ with our music. That’s what makes Brand Nubian so legendary. Why dude would even start out his whole rant about that and say that so thank you and respect for acknowledging what I’ve done in this game as a legend. Thank you. I appreciate that.”
In Part 2, Jamar insisted he rarely thinks about Eminem and only discusses him because he’s asked about him on regular basis. He then explained where his true issue with Eminem lies and pinpointed why he believes Royce decided to speak up.
“I’ve been done mad interviews and people ask me about Eminem,” he said. “I really don’t give a fuck about Eminem to be honest. He’s not someone I’m really thinking about. The only reason I bring him up is because you have white people that will say Eminem is the G.O.A.T. of Hip Hop based upon his record sales. That’s the only problem I have.
“Do I think he’s a top-tier lyricist, just rhyme speaking? Yes. I’ve said that multiple times. How many fucking times do I have to fucking say it? The guy puts words together well. I think what prompted this newest video is my man DJ Vlad, who so many people love to hate, asked the brother Conway — shout out to that whole Griselda movement. I’m fuckin’ with it — he asked him basically all the shit I said. Now, he disagreed with me as far as Eminem being a guest in the house of Hip Hop. He did agree with me on the fact that niggas in the hood don’t really listen to Eminem.”
Of course, Jamar wasn’t done there. He said his declaration that people in the hood don’t listen to Eminem wasn’t a “diss” but a “fact.” He also said Conway co-signed his sentiments so Royce should go at him with the same energy.
He also reminded his viewers Gucci Mane once said the same thing.
“Niggas ain’t listening to no got damn Eminem,” he said. “When? Where? How?”
Finally, Jamar ended his diatribe by pointing out his “opinion” seems to bother Royce “very much” and that being a “black man” is what makes him the “yard stick of cool.”
Watch the full Instagram Live session above.
Lord came very respectful. This is the way i like my rap pioneers and new-comers to handle disagreements….no more showing off for these idiots trying to tear down the culture. Good comeback Lord! Glad you handled it without getting all confrontational, but still spoke your mind!
EM is like the Larry Bird of hip-hop. LoL Let’s these dumb white suburban kids have their shit
Dude that’s a compliment. Larry Bird was a bad mother who everyone on the court feared black or white. Look him up before claiming other people to be “dumb”.
People were bumpin Brand Nubian for Sadat X and Puba. Bruh you were Tony Yayo of Gunit or WIsh Bone from Bone Thugs. Group would’ve been as great or greater without you
And you know this how?
Because his solo album sold triple plastic.
Almost agree with you on everything, but Wish Bone was actually good on the three fist albums and after that he said f it lol, Rumors were Krayzie use to write his lyrics in the from like 94-98, don’t know if it was true but wish had one of the biggest drop offs in terms of lyrics and rhymes, he was good and then act like he forgot how to rap weirdest s ever.
Is lord Jamar still living in the hood or something? How the fuck would he know? Jamar isn’t hood at all. You lost that street cred when you went gold back in 1990 and started getting chips. FOH
Everyone lives in a neighborhood.
Man STFU. That like saying 50 lost his cred
At the end of the day, Lord Jamar and Eminem are legends who had impact and charged the game. Sorry Royce you are none of the above. Your going down like a Lupe Fiasco (maybe top 50). Sorry man
He’s a legend like Tyrone Lue was on the Laker squad.
Yea dude your legends in the same way wacka flockas albums are classics. Legends HAHAHAHA that word must mean something different where I’m from.
Lord Jamar was the Flava Flav of Brand Nubian.
Wake up fool!
Don’t insult flava Flav!
Lord Jamar is on point!! Like i said in my previous post nobody my was or is checking for eminem all like that if at all. Eminem is good mc but not a top 5. As far as lord jamar goes hate on him all u want he is still part of a legendary group now whether he was the weak link or not you can argue all day but his status is certified in hip-hop. Overall excellent reply by jamar
Ok we get it “Edubb” aka Lord Jamar lmao
DOn’t talk smack. legendary gets used all too often from the 90s. When puba bounced, it was a wrap. Decent albums with ok hits and on to the next. I own all their albums, even the shitty premo one years later.
they’re a poor mans ATCQ, De la soul,Nobody ever checked for brand nubian after 93/94 and they fell back like all the late 80/ early 90 acts and never lived up.
Legendary, then whats ATCQ? Whats wu tang? Boot camp? what de la soul, whats DITC? because they’re certainly not on their level. im from the 90s like many, they were a respectable sound that never made anyone top 10s EVER. like ill all skratch, nine, blacksheep, fu etc. nice groups no disrespect but the B level groups.
Eminem, his first album, and his second were nice. He had his moment and it was much bugger than jamars. Jamar solo work is a joke. Sadat x WC album > anything jamar has ever done. Pubas 2000> anything Jamar has ever done. He lucky his name can be with BN name.
On point!
LMAO edubb. Wtf you smoking lol talk about being stupid.
My Farts are Legendary
He’s the wackest member of Brand Nubian. His solo work is Benzino bad.
And he only dropped one that wasn’t ever even brought up that much as the old, classic Brand Nubian projects. LOL
He’s getting more known for trolling Em and sitting on Vlad’s couch than anything else. When people look up his music on youtube they look for his solo shit. It’s wack! They don’t know anything Brand Nubian. Shit, they don’t even know about Supreme Allah from OZ.
He’s not “fighting Em’s battles”; Em already responded to Lord Jamoron HIMSELF almost exactly a year ago on “Fall”. Royce is just showing well-deserved loyalty to Eminem just like he ALWAYS has for the past 20 years. Even during the time he was beefing with D12 and the 2 weren’t on the best of terms, he defended Em when it came to his feud with Benzino.
What’s the obsession with what the “hood” listens to at this point? Sure the hood doesn’t fuck with Eminem … but the rest of the WORLD does. Hmm, which would you rather have?
But the crazy part is that the hood does actually fuck with Eminem! The whole world + the hood was all over killshot! Eminem sold more albums than any Hood rapper out there! So what more do you want
Mr. Irrelevant strikes again..
Hip Hop is OLD
A lot of hate for Jamar answering questions asked of him. He merely gives his opinion and a bunch of people jump online discrediting his work. Non mcs at that. I’m glad he respectfully responded. Maybe that will pacify Royce and make it easier for him to deal with Jamar having an opinion that differs from his.
I hate a lot of Jamars opinions, but everything he says here is on point. Black people really don’t listen to Em like they listen to trap/drill/mumble rap. It’s not his fault everyone always asks him about Em. And Brand Nubian had a legendary impact when they first dropped.
Eminem fans move like angry SJWs.
I love Eminem from 1998 to 2005 or so… But there is nothing worse than a STAN! That goes for Kendrick fans too! I LOVED Kendrick between 2009 and 2013… Then he went complete sellout mode, made trash, became even more popular, and his STANs love his radio garbage. Stans of any artist suck!
Maybe if dude saved the blunt for after his video it wouldn’t take him 9 minutes to spit out 2 or 3 simple thoughts.
I agree that Eminem isn’t top 10 ever. Top 20 but certainly not top 10. Em is part of hip hop and not just a guest in the house of hip hop. Lord Jamar lost me with that one wild nonsense. In the end, if you are dope you are dope regardless of race or gender. That is like saying Obama was just a guest in the White House because American Presidents are traditionally white men. Get outta here Lord Jamar!!!
We only fuck with puba and x
False ,Lord Jamar is culturally relevant right now hence these comments and this article and he had the hardest/most memorable verse on don’t let it go to your head which is their last big record
He’s culturally relevant becuz he made a stupid comment about a bigger superstar in Hiphop. BN are legends unquestionable…but don’t pretend the new cats know who the fuck Lord Jamar is. I guarantee if you ask today’s hiphop fans who Lord Jamar is, they gonna say “ain’t that the dude who said Eminem is a guest in Hiphop cuz he’s white?”…literally 98% of todays hiphop fans would have that answer. So no Jamar is not relevant today, Eminem is and Jamar just made a controversial comment about the relevant rapper. Your defense of Jamar’s relevance is he had a tight verse in the 90’s? And no Eminem is not in my top 10, I’m not an Em fanboy, dude’s been wack for almost 10 years now…however he is still more relevant than Lord fuckin Jamar
Nah not amongst black people hella brothers and sisters fuck with god he gave us Dead prez and a bunch of shit lowkey
God? LOL. You know he’s been arrested for failing to pay child support, right? He’s also a Muslim that drinks. He goes off on anyone that is white who isn’t in his lane, and sells more albums than his entire group ever did. Shit, this has been was talking shit about Iggy Azalia. Hahahaha. Clout chasing, fake Muslim idiot. He’s a racist. Straight up. And a homophobe.
I’m black. I listen to Eminem. Its part of Hip Hop. Shut up. That is all.
Except its not all. You listen to what you listen to. If you only want street shit and not into anything outside of that than cool. But I really don’t see why we still draggin this….Baby girl Hip Hop was birthed in the streets but she worldwide now, accept it.
All I know is this
If lord jamar was white and eminem was black.
He wouldn’t be able to say half of the things that he has said.
Because it’s racists
And that’s all lord jamar is to me
A racist
Em was the first Rap plant in when RE-introduced to the MASSES via MTV in 1999-2000…..Cause when he was running with the OUTSIDERZ from NJ, NOBODY WAS CHECKING FOR EM !!!! Black and Brown people don’t vibe to music about Killing they Moms and BM. Shit is WACK!!!
After Em came out…That was the flood gates for ALL the WACK MC’s that came out in the early 2000….GAME OVER !
Yeah black and brown people only vibe to cool shit like killing each other right? Yeah that’s the dope shit.
And white people vibe to going to Wal mart shooting people just minding their own business
Well, more black people kill other black people in Chicago alone, than ALL races are killed in the entire US a year due to mass shootings. Great racist example that out of context makes black people look bad. Dummy. Also, more people are shot and wounded, not killed, in Chi alone, than victims of mass shootings are. Keep using that dumb ass argument. It’s statistically wrong. Numbers don’t lie.
What about all the black people that were killed during slavery and post civil war and during the civil rights movement, who was doing that killing? Not blacks. Tired of you white people coming to this site looking down on black people, if you feel that way why are you coming to a Hip Hop site in the first place? Go away
Yes that is an undeniable, horrible, ugly truth that can’t be ignored and basically trumps everything. However there’s a certain amount of hypocrisy in saying that Eminem is sick and twisted and unlistenable because of his violent lyrics (clearly fantasy) toward his mom while but vibing with songs glorifying the self genocide of poor communites is cool. If that’s the argument then it’s not a good one.
Eminem wasn’t a “plant” lol. It’s how the industry literally works. Find entertainment, sell it to the masses. Wanna talk about that? NWA is the SAME EXACT SHIT. People can pretend people were afraid of NWA, and tried to blackball them. But in reality, Hollywood LOVED NWA! Hell, straight outta Compton was a terrible and pure Hollywood movie. It was lacking so much truth, and was half bogus. Hell. They showed Dr Dre “Dre day” and Ice Cubes “No Vaseline”, yet left out Eazy Es “Real Muthufuckin Gz”. It’s all Hollywood, and any rapper who makes it THAT big, is HOLLYWOOD SELLOUTS. Yes, that includes Jayz, Tupac, Eminem, Nas, Kendrick, Cole… All sellouts, 100%. So was snoop and all of them.
I’m not a big fan of lord jamar or mm but i liked the Brand nubians. Mm and brand nubians are far better than this bullshit today. Mm is talented but lord jamar is right. I don’t think mm is a 10 top artists. He can rhyme but his albums are so so. They make good pop albums but this hip hop music. Pop fans love mm but hip hop fans love him less. Mm sounds corny to me but pop fans like it. Real hip hop fans find corny to be wack. Pop fans see him as the goat of hip hop but are not really fans of hip hop. Pop fans( white people mostly people) are culture vultures when it comes to black music. No, i don’t hate white people. Elvis is the king of rock n roll. Mm is the king of hop hop. We can’t be the kings of our own music in amerikkka. If mm and elvis are the kings of black art, then blacks can be the best Italian and irish chefs. Do you see how crazy that statement is? We all have pride in our cultures. In my opinion, someone outside of that can’t be the best. An outsider is just copying the recipe. Mm and elvis just copied the culture. The culture made them .They did not make culture.
LeBron is the king of the NBA right? Tiger just won the Masters, Barrack was president, Oprah runs her lane. These are great things. I’m not saying Em is the GOAT or even close but talented people who paid their dues and bust their asses deserve to shine and not be pulled down by common prejudice.
Oprah and others are not culture vultures. They didn’t steal from whites to become the so called kings. For example, golf is played mostly by whites because blacks were not allow to play it. Golf is not white culture. We didn’t steal it. The sport of golf is race neutral. Black music and ethnic cooking are cultures not a sport that is played mostly by whites.
Just for the sake of argument, golf and basketball are white culture. They were created by white people as leisure activities for white people. There was certainly resistance to other races participating initially. That resistance was coming from a darker, more racist place yes but to act like white people are the only group to benefit from the culture of other races is absolutely insane.
No Tiger didn’t steal golf he just loved the Game. LeBron didn’t steal basketball he just loved to play. Eminem didn’t steal hip hop he just loved to rap.
Mm doesn’t love hip hop that kid sold out, bruh. Sports is race neutral. Is golf an ethnic sport? I don’t know. It is not white culture because we couldn’t play. Racist behavior does not make golf white culture. The bottom line is…..i love italian food. My italian food is pretty good. I stole the recipe from italians. My italian food isn’t banging without italians. Mm without the african roots is nothing special. We wrote the book. Mm is just reading the book. I can’t remember when blacks stole white culture and were crown the kings. I could be wrong. This racist society doesn’t think we should be the kings of our own black culture. This is the problem.
The origins of golf are of white men in Scotland, they invented and practiced the game together. They envisioned and created courses, clubs, the rituals and clothing they wore and the game became part of their communal pastime and heritage. How is that not culture? Obviously it has evolved into a global sport that is race neutral but why should music be different? Rap music has been sold to the entire planet and is literally everywhere, it is part of global culture at this point although it’s origins clearly lie in the black community. Italian food is sold everywhere to everyone so it’s no longer sacred culture exclusive to Italians so how is hip hop different when it is a money-making machine that has reached every part of modern culture, it’s no longer a sacred practice of a small community.
I disagree that Em doesn’t love hip hop, I’ve only seen evidence that he does but think what you want there. He knows all the history and gives respect to all the groups and rappers that built things. I do agree with you that he is not the King of hip hop and it is gross for ignorant white people to claim that he is because of his pop success. I only take issue with claiming Em is a “culture vulture” or something when hip hop is part of American culture as a whole at this point.
Em dont rap about shit most black and brown people can relate too, And that is why Em is kinda corny. His subject Matter is weak and if he was black he would be tossed aside along time ago. Eminem even helped black ball Canibus who might be one of the best underground rappers ever.
I agree to an extent, and hate Eminem stans, but cmon, you’d be lying to yourself if you said Eminem was still extremely talented, despite not making great music anymore. Prime example is Em making Jayzs song into his own song. I dislike anything Em has done for more than a decade, but he’s not popular because he’s not black lol. He’s popular because he made it into the top 5 talk, and once you make it into that potential list, your gonna stay relevant for decades. I mean, Nas to me is EXTREMELY overrated, and only has a single classic album. But he’s still in a lot of people top 5, and therefore will always maintain a form of popularity, no matter how boring his music became.
Finally some truth
Again…..It’s showing in ya reply, EM did not take over and OWN Jay’s song. He got a verse on a beat he made and did well. It was song on JAY -Z classic album. SUBJECT matter for Kids in Middle amarica is not the same as Kids from the MECCA of Hip-Hop music. Em did not make music for BLACK and BROWN people….98% of people i know did not relate to ” Just like me ” NAS makes music for KIDs who grew up in the struggle and in the Inner city, And that is why is one of the GOATS. He can paint pictures with words that RELATE to what we go thru……Just face it, EM is kinda wack and what he raps about it Lame.
He’s right to an extent. I don’t like anything Eminem has made the past decade plus, but loved his music from 1998 to 2005 or so. But yeah, it seems black America today likes a lot of that drill rap/trap rap, along with the fake woke J Cole crap for the females… The white hipster types seem most likely to be bumping Masta Ace. It’s odd how it’s like that.. Of course though, that pertains to mskt hiphop fans in general nowadays. The fans today like the new styles, while a smaller portion of us like the Masta Ace style of story telling, intelligent hiphop. But hey, I’m not hating, nobody wants to party to a Masta Ace song! That’s for closer listeners!
I don’t buy that Eminem isn’t bumped in the hood. In fact, I know it’s not true.
Jamar is a bird. This is what his status has come to. Getting acknowledged for downing someone else. How is Vlad making him “relevant” when he was part of a classic group? Also, if it wasn’t for whites buying albums, a lot of people wouldn’t be platinum or diamond. Jamar needs to let his talent speak instead of acting like a gossip girl.
Damn jay again!? Get jamars dick out yo butt fam. I don’t believe you ain’t a fan anymore. You might be gay ass Jamar himself the way you going on.
I’m a 38 year old white guy who grew up on hip hop. It’s all i really fuck with. Eminem is absolutely one of the, if not, the best. My top 2 are Eminem and Meth. Equal in my book. The funniest part about this all is that Lord Jamar doesn’t even rap anymore. And hasn’t really in a while. All he does is talk about other rappers??? I really hope Royce and Em make a new Bad Meets Evil track slaying this fanboy. If for nothing else just cause it’s be dope and funny.
Meth my fav Em up there. Come on fam even if u dnt like Jamar Royce aint say shit to Joe Budden or Crooked whn he lft Slaughter and had issues wit em. And MGK dissed the fuck out of em and royce was quiet and conway and gucci def said wht they said i been sayin it and royce ddnt come to the reacue. Royce been on em dick since proof died cause he wnt em to cosign everything he do. Foh sean P would even bury royce and he used to joke bout em whn he was alive royce aint said shit. This shit look so sus aint no W for beatin up a old dude famo
Your English got lost along the way….
Lol, Sean price said “my battle raps are so spectacular that marshall mathers be wishing that I’d go back to Africa”. Did he say anything else I missed?
Jamar acting like anyone bumping Brand Nubian in the hood lol. backpacker rap
Maybe but he got a point why Eoyce dnt say nutjin to Gucci, Conway or mgk tht said he would fuck em dtr. U dnt get cool points for bodyin a older dude we knw u can beat. Joe Budden always go in on em Royce aint said shit look sus.
You said this already Jay. That long ass paragraph you wrote above crying about the same thing wasn’t enough? Maybe if you could spell you wouldn’t feel the need to repeat yourself.
God damn jamar is one corny a$$.
You sound mad fucking hurt for not being a fan.
Jamar (respect due) says it ain’t a good look Royce vouchin 4 Eminem but it’s a better look than sittin on Officer (he comes off like one) Vlad’s couch.
Here’s an Idea Jamar why don’t you rap, make music, let the people decide who’s better. Son of a bitch hasn’t done anything of note in YEARS. FOH.
Lmao. This old has been can’t rap anymore. He’s a bitch. All he does is gossip and act like everyone should give two fucks. It’s sad. To be old and bitter and act like a female.
Lord Jamar is a troll a lame can’t even touch Em or Royce bar for bar brand whaaat lmao I could name 20 other 90s hip hop groups before I get too Nubian #boom
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Seriously, dudes. In 2019 you aint got no better things to discuss than irrelevant eminem and irrelevant Lord Jamar. Holy fuck. None of these dudes contributed to HipHop. Apache did more for HipHop than boththese fucks. And he didnt have to sell his soul. Lord Lamar talks a lotta bullshit about blavk and white but often plays a blavk drug dealer or criminal in TV and movies. Where r his morals then? Hypocrit:)
You lost me at none of these dudes contributed to hiphop. You don’t have to be a fan of either to realize how retarded you sound. Ya dumb bitch.
Black People are Guests in the House of Hollywood
Lord Jamar got under a lot of folks skin in here over 80 comments lol,I agree with LJ ,Em is not the GOAT of hiphop. Top 10 for pen game maybe,that’s it thou!!!
What do y’all keep talkin about lyrics, pen game, what the hell only black peoples lyrics are called bars? Y’all stupid AF
Im 37 and and was raised with 4 older brothers that’s hip hop heads who were teens in the 80s and 90s so i was exposed to a good amount of rap music in my lifetime. As far back as i can remember which is late 80s, I never heard Brand Nubian being played in my household or anywhere else in my hood. Till this day I actually never heard a Brand Nubian song being selectively played by anyone i know. I’m only familiar with the group because of the days when music videos were in heavy rotation and i kinda just watched whatever video played next. They were never considered music you bang in the hood so why Jamar keep talking.
Quit deleting my comments you are violating my 1st amendment right.
Damn idk what sounds more pathetic. All you Em Stans who get upset that anyone doesn’t think he’s the goat or all you haters screaming at every chance you get to act like Em is the worst thing to happen to hiphop.
USA has got such an issue with race….why does Lord Jamar think he speaks for all ‘black people’? He’s the yard stick of coolness just because of his skin colour? Wtf is this shit. Talk about white privilege. Thats black privilege for you.
I’ve seen many well respected great MC’s give Eminem love. Better MCs than ‘Lord Jamar’. Much better.
Things change, things evolve. Hip-Hop does not have an overseeing council of black originators who measure the coolness of every rapper. The people do. The fans. Eminem is an amazing rapper. If he doesn’t make your favourite list or GOAT list, fine, there’s no need to be negative and disrespectful about it.
Lord Jamar, going live on instagram from his care home. SMH. Getting money and attention off the back of someone he’s disrespecting. A vulture scooping up any scraps he can get. You had your time; it was brief and largely forgettable. Let it go.
Is Hip-Hop about race? I thought it was about so much more than that. A shame people still try and hold it down with their backward thinking and ignorance.
Well put
KMD – Nitty Gritty ft. Brand Nubian
Last time I checked lord jamar didn’t even have one gold Album to his Name lol….legendary my ass lol
You know that black power shit gets no play in this ride!lol… go watch mr tough guy dancing around like hammer in his music videos, what a joke , stay in that closet