Joyner Lucas stopped by Complex’s Everyday Struggle and ended up laying out all the reasons for his issues with Logic. After retelling the story of how tension started because of their mutual appearance on Tech N9ne’s “Sriracha,” Lucas opened up even more about his issues with Logic and claimed the Def Jam artist actually stole his ideas.
“We in L.A. and shit, and I’m in the studio and Logic’s manager comes through,” Lucas explained around the 42-minute mark of the interview. “This is before I jumped out the window and said anything … Logic’s manager came through to the studio ’cause him and my manager, I guess, know each other. We playing shit from the album, whatever the case may be. He’s like, ‘Oh, what’s the name of the album?’ 508-507-2209. ‘Why you name it that?’ So, we talking ’bout it. And then I start playing my videos. Played the suicide joint. ‘Oh, this shit crazy.'”
According to Lucas, the session prompted Logic’s manager to try to set up something between the two MCs.
“So his manager’s like, ‘Yo, I’d maybe like to get you and Logic together,'” Lucas recalled. “I said, ‘Yeah, that’s cool.’ Maybe get on the road or whatever. I’m like, “Yo, that’s cool. Whatever.’ It was what it was. Political shit. Cool. Playing the game. I’m not jumping out the window. It is what it is. Couple weeks pass by, my manager following up with him. ‘Yo, what’s good? Joyner’s about to wanna go on the road. Did you make the connection with Logic so them two can you know?’ And then muthafucka’s like, ‘Logic don’t wanna meet new people.’ Logic don’t wanna so I’m alright, we were just on the same song.”
As the potential working relationship deteriorated, Lucas became upset when Logic dropped the “1-800-273-8255” single.
“Next thing you know, a couple weeks go by and there’s a suicide record out,” he said. “The number, 1-800-blah-blah-blah. Now, I feel saucy as fuck. Now, I’m mad my nigga.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxC3jZoIDvc
Co-host DJ Akademiks chimed in, saying that Lucas felt ripped off.
“Yeah, bro! That’s how I felt,” Lucas said. “Like, what the fuck? I just played my shit. The video, which you’ve never seen. You was so hyped about my fucking album title being a phone number. Next thing you know, Logic’s fucking 1-800 song is a phone number. Now I’m like, that’s weird. And it’s a suicide song at that! At the end of my ‘I’m Sorry’ video, I put a suicide number there.”
Lucas told the hosts that he wasn’t mad to see Logic doing a track about suicide but believed his ideas for the phone number title and topic were being bitten. It was only made worse by the existing problems had with Logic.
“I didn’t wanna jump out the window like I’m the one who came up with the suicide [song],” he continued. “Cool, you’re spreading a good ’cause my man. That’s good. That’s great. Let’s both do it. But at the same time, the Tech shit, this shit, the manage— Now, I feel like that’s what prompted me to jump out the window. And when we went into interviews, that’s what prompted me to say I think he’s corny. Horrible timing ’cause after I did that interview, he did the VMAs. Then they decide to drop the interview after the VMAs and make me look like Joyner Lucas thinks Logic is corny for what he’s doing at the VMAs. I thought that was great. I thought that performance was dope. It was just bad timing. Shit just made me look bad. But behind closed doors, that’s everything that happened.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLe1dddgZrg
After Lucas finished airing out what went down, Joe Budden pushed back and reference A Tribe Called Quest’s “industry rule #4080, record company people are shady” lyric. Budden sought to provide career advice, telling Lucas the skilled lyricist made a mistake by ever letting Logic’s manager into the studio.
Watch Lucas’ entire appearance on Everyday Struggle above.
I totally buy this… I’m Sorry been out for a while…cuz when I heard I’m Sorry, I was goin through shit and I was damn near in tears and also questioned why they stopping making suicide awareness songs and a year later, this song pops up and it blows up but I’m a Sorry goes WAYYYY HARDER!!! Story telling and everything!!! Hate ppl like this
White people stole a whole country, you don’t think they will still your Ideas etc
I’m black and you are an idiot! It’s people like you that are always complaining about racism but yet are just as racist as anyone else. What has what white people did in centuries past got to do with this? How does that justify Logic stealing his music concept (if he is correct)?
No you can only be a idiot when you call someone else a idiot for making a true statement. If you know the history of music you would know that white artist would steal black artist song word for word, and make money off them while the black artist couldn’t even get royalties this happened over and over. I’m far from racist just because a person makes a statement using the word black or white doesn’t make them racist if someone said black people love hip hop that wouldn’t be racist.
He’s got a point tho. Evidence suggests.
He has no point, the Gravediggaz released a song called 1-800 Suicide in 1994.
281 330 8004. Who is….?
Hit Mike Jones up on the low…
The original “phone number rapper”!
Its like jaz-o and jay z ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
No surprise. Logic is and has been TGE BIGGEST BITER/STYLE JOCKER/DICK RIDER in the game. He was trying to rap like wack ass Drake last year, this year he’s rapping like Kendrick. Dude sucks. Total lame. That suicide song probably led some people to commit suicide. If you’re feeling Logic at all, that might be a good idea.
I listen to logic, The Incredible True Story was a dope album, his been getting cornier and weaker ever since that’s why his retiring after his next album lol
Logic still will be making projects he has hinted that he’s changing he’s name.
Logic should stick to playing mario kart 8 and stop stealing flows and ideas and oh yes logic is been engraved in my mind that your half black ??
Everything you said was just stupid lol.
Is it me a does Logic look like a rapping version of Jared from Subway?
You know what happend to that dude
How petty and narcissistic do you have to be to get mad because someone else made a song about suicide prevention, whether they took the idea from you or not. I agree with what he said about Logic being repetitive and I liked Joyner more than Logic, but this is some pathetic shit. The more people making songs about suicide prevention the better, and making the title the actual number of the suicide hotline was a piece of genius on the part of Logic.
How about you watch the damn video.
Unethical.
He literally says he isn’t mad about that. Read the damn article.