Vince Staples found himself playing defense on Twitter this week after comments he made about Eminem’s BET Hip Hop Awards freestyle went viral. The Long Beach rapper, who was speaking at Pitchfork’s In Sight Out Series in Chicago on Friday (October 13), called Shady’s nearly five-minute tirade against Donald Trump “trash” and said he believed Em “could do better.”
Following Pitchfork’s account of the event, the Big Fish Theory MC took to Twitter to call out the media outlet for being “thirsty.”
“The mnm statement was all in good fun I like him & Kim,” he tweeted Friday. “@Pitchfork took it out of context because they thirsty. Lemme get these jokes off.”
He added, “How we gonna clown Xtentacion for rapping like a sorcerer on XXL but let M go full assassins creed & then deny me the right my jokes. Me not being able to make jokes about mnm is white supremacy @pitchfork don’t make me call Cornell West.”
Subsequently, his Twitter account blew up with comments and soon turned into a conversation about white privilege. As of Saturday morning (October 14), Staples was still engaged with Twitter users, attempting to explain his position.
Staples reiterated that he wasn’t referring to Eminem as “trash,” he was simply addressing the bars. He also recognized the importance of Em’s message.
“I didn’t call HIM trash I said I didn’t care for the freestyle but I appreciate the support in the message,” he wrote Saturday morning.
Staples did take a jab at what some believed was Em’s worst line. Shady opened his freestyle with, “It’s the calm before the storm right here/ Wait, how was I going to start this off?/ I forgot … oh yeah/ That’s an awfully hot coffee pot/ Should I drop it on Donald Trump?/ Probably not.”
After a Twitter user told Staples that Em still did something Staples is “lyrically unable to do,” he replied, “If I’m unable to say awfully hot coffee pot I’m ok with that.”
He did make it abundantly clear that his issue wasn’t with Eminem — it was with his bars.
“I hold Eminem in the highest regards I wanted him to go harder than that. That’s all,” he wrote.
Before he wrapped up his Twitter tirade, he touched on the NFL/National Anthem controversy, again reaffirmed his “quarrel” isn’t with Eminem and explained his stance on white privilege.
“White privilege. Ignore what blacks say & go through until it’s convenient for you,” he wrote. “They brushed off [police] killings until it disrupted football.”
He added, “Eminem received white privilege whether he likes it or not which I believe is the latter which I believe is why he chose to speak out.”
Staples appears to have had enough and offered up one last plea, “Look man just admit that some of y’all champion him because he looks like you,” he wrote. “it’s okay everybody does it Idk why y’all try to hide it lol.
“My point is I didn’t like it as a fan and expected more,” he concluded. “Then I was told ‘be happy he spoke up for you’ like I’m some sorta citch ass nigga.”
This guy has problems man
Snowball effect on a touchy subject — par for the course. No ones fault.
what a fucking retard… these people will always keep the black community down… when u go against the common sence with bullshit, you always lose
Eminem acknowledges he has received white privilege. However that only came after years of struggling to make it in the black world. Nowhere near the same painful struggle black ppl have endured but had Dre turned him away like everyone else the world wouldn’t have known his greatness simply because he’s white. So yeah, when he got the chance he took full advantage, then ppl act like they’re saying something new or woke when they say he benefits from his skin. Bars were ok in the verse, some good, some bad
why isn’t HHDX reporting about how Y.G. tweeted “fuck Em” or some shit because hr was on that fuck Donald Trump shit before Eminem
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allow me to quote ms Sweet Brown.. “ain’t nobody got time for dat!”
Who cares what this dude has to say anyway. He releases decent shit. That’s the problem with these newer cats.. they get a little buzz and all of a sudden their opinion is supposed to mean something.
Black people are whiney cry babies.
Nice try trolling with an Asian name.
Brack peopre are a bunch of cry babies. They dishonor their famiry!
Bbaaarack peeepole nevaa on time
Vin Staples is irrelevant and Eminem is washed up. What they have in common is that both are low IQ indivuals.
i agree 100% #facts
Possibly the stupidest comment on this site, congratulations.
This the problem now day’s you can’t give trash dude’s like him any shine because they start talking dumb ems worse line better then dude’s best
He’s not saying anything wrong points were valid and like he said he was just joking around anybody that knows what em can do knows that freestyle was on the weak side
you try to rhyme 3-4 syllables and still make sense…LOL
Vince Staples is to real for the game.
too* (for all the grammar warriors out there)
Are getting paid for that, please don’t be bitch
who the fuck scared now??? LOL
Whether or not he was joking, that was trash. Em been trash for a long time, floating by on the “goat” status. He went harder on Bush.
Loved slim shady lp – then he took a Detroit arena rap downward turn and never recovered.
true story. i fuckin loved SSLP. last album i can listen from dude is TES i think it was his last decent album (thou it had the lgbt anthem “Comin out my Closet”). 8 Mile shit was trash and after Encore was so bad i officially gave up on dude.
One good album and EVERYONE says Em is the goat….. if I had to pick a goat it’s ICE CUBE! Countless dope albums and bars , and I think Em would agree with me.
Drink sprite
i prefer Sprunk.
If by now you haven’t caught on to Vince’s sarcastic trolling joking ways, you take the internet too seriously. I admit he got me back in the day. He might’ve touched a huge nerve with this one bc it’s Em, but cmon folks. This dude is known for stuff like this. No need to panic lol. He throws mad bait. Y’all just stupid to take it.
Rap is crap
First off Vince ain’t that good, but his right, the way that em verse started was pretty weak. Funny thing is, he can’t even compare himself to the legacy em has left, sure his an angry white boy but off the strength of eminem show (lose yourself) and rap god em is still lethal white or not.
“Wait, how was I going to start this off?” – Wait, what did Hillary Clinton tell me to say? “And he’s Orange!” lol….. wait, Eminem is a great lyricist, surely hes not just going to regurgitate the main stream media’s anti-trump narrative and call trump racist…, surely this rich white social justice warrior in particular is going to have something original to say… nope…
aww shit! Vince PISSED OFF many of White ppl.
He disrespected the White saviour.
How he a savior when has laid low for the most part this decade
He’s right, Eminem fell off hard after Proof died. Check the timeline, he hasn’t put out any good material since then… RIP Proof.
You’re cooked, bro… Like just you, home alone, edge of the bed covered with the dirtiest sheets, baby momma getting ran train on by your dealer in the next room while you’re guzzling your Natty daddies till you turn one can into a pipe to throw that hard rock on it, that raw fishscale ghostface be talking about, that T bone, who at the moment is making sweet project love to the one you one day marry, always be having. Today it’s free, your happy, your bm is probably loving you and he’s happy too. Fuck all of ya! How’s that?
Proof was wack as f. Only reason dude was ever on a record was because he was EM’s best friend. And EM’s last album was good. His 3rd and 4th albums weren’t good
First things first… Shady is a better rapper than Vince Staples could ever dream of being. That being said, Vince was 100% accurate. Eminem can spaz and that’s why his first 4 albums (Infinite, SSLP, MMLP, TES) are classics. Encore started the downhill trend because he was runnin out of material. Then came the two problems with Em: the stadium rap pop trash and the rappity rap without saying anything garbage. The bar in question is rappity rap trash. The wordplay is phenomenal but it is saying absolutely nothing. If Em traded in wordplay for substance he would still be the best rapper out. Instead, he’s marginal. I listened to the track 3 times intently (it was decent) and now have no need to ever hear it again.
Vince at his age would destroy young 20’s Em..
Na he wouldn’t
feminem is trash. Drake is the rap god he runs this rap game. Every body else is old washed up or irrelevent.
Yes that’s why Em bodied him on Forever. Hmm
Everybody always forgets the beastie boys.. top 5 rap group of all time. All white. All hip hop.
Q: Were these tweets coming from rap Vince or EDM Vince? A: Wanna cross over Vince. Def not hip hop Vince
now vince aint hip hop?
The hate thick in here….
FACTS
Somebody come get Azalea Bank’s brother! When isn’t this guy hating on somebody? Do y’all want change or not?
Considering Eminem actually freestyles, I don’t really expect every bar to be amazing coming straight off the top of the head! Don’t even know why everyone is bothered about how he put his lyrics down, it’s what he said that matters!
He’s a powerful figure in the entertainment industry, and obviously white, but he used his 5 minutes well in my opinion and although it’s sad, there are a lot of sheep out there and he could’ve influenced a few people so I can see positives from it. I don’t get the people who are against Trump coming out criticising it, especially those who’ve said fuck all on the matter.
There’s plenty of black rappers out there keeping their mouths shut about the whole situation when they could speak up as well and I’m sure there’s a few critics there too but not bold enough to say anything on Trump themselves!
I never really looked at Em’s freestyle as a freestyle, more of a spoken word/poem or a letter to the president. Vince know Em can rap circles around him and he really don’t need to do these BET Freestyle cyphers. He felt compelled to say something and did so. Everyone’s a critic until they get criticized and then they are on the defensive. I liked what Em did, it was something different, he has killed MANY cyphers in a public forum and his lyrical ability should never be questioned. Vince always seems to be hating on something… Em has put his work in, 15-20 yrs later can we say the same thing about Vince?
Well said man, I was trying to say that too but I’m white lol I think it’s the content and the influence he has is what is important, not his lyrical ability in doing the freestyling. Like I said in my own comment, he’s one of the few that actually comes straight off the top of the dome when freestyling and it’s still better than 90% of the shit out there but regardless of that it’s the content that matters here, not the skill!
Damn!! Vince Staples can hold his own!! #respect
If Eminem were black he’d be Redman??? Ok so why isn’t Vinnie Paz blown up like em, where’s his white privilege..?? Where the fuck is RA the rugged man, why is lil Uzi vert the best rapper over them ???? Why???? You pussy motherfuckas hate, constantly, but it’s cute to see you TRY to make the point,STILL!!!!! Lol lmao hahaha 🙂 Vince, you don’t have the bars, the flow to even speak Ill of the white boy so slow down Fam. I also like how he used white privilege and racism, police killings so he could disrespect knowing Em would leave it alone because of it.. just know cutie pie, he would rip ya fucking head off if you simply kept it ABOUT bars AND music. Bars, he says…. Lol
For a lyrical dude it’s mystifying why Vince Staples attacks son many quality MC’s, while praising Kanye and other wack rappers. Don’t see the white privilege thing on this as YG and Nipsey Hussle came out with FDT two years ago and a ton of other MC’s already have spoken on trump long before EM’s freestyle. Staples just has foot in the mouth syndrome