Flavor Flav recently said that Rap has lost “the element of Hip Hop.”
“I think the element of Hip Hop left when Rap music started being created on a slow tempo,” Flavor Flav told Gigwise. “It’s just stayed there for years. Right now, a lot of Rap music today is being created at very low tempos.”
While several artists today make “great Rap records,” the Public Enemy rapper said that artists today do not make “Hip Hop” music.
“There’s no more of that, ‘Wave your hands in the air like you just don’t care,’ you know, something that makes you wanna get out there and breakdance,” he said. “Rap music has lost that element right now, mainly over in America. There’s not too many great Hip Hop records out there, but there are some great Rap records. Lil Wayne is making some great Rap records, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Ludacris, Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar, 50 Cent, Snoop [Lion] – everybody is making great Rap records, but it’s not Hip Hop.”
In other Flavor Flav news, Flavor Flav’s Chicken & Ribs recently went out business. On July 26, TMZ reported that the last of Flav’s Chicken & Ribs was shut down after being evicted in Sterling Heights, Michigan. Flav’s Chicken & Ribs locations in Las Vegas and Iowa had already been closed.
Last year, it was reported that Flavor Flav talked about the “dark holes” he’s been through in his life. “I’ve been down some pretty dark holes – but somehow I always found the strength to climb back out of them,” he said.
RELATED: Flavor Flav Explains Covering His Darker Periods In New Memoir
Public Enemy gave me my love for Hip Hop. But a career hype man really should have little to say. Get your business ventures straight and stop selling your soul on reality TV.
crackhead cant be taken serious
Can’t*
*Fag
I hate when people act like they know what Hip-Hop is & act like it should be what they say it is. STFU already. Rap is one of the elements of Hip-Hop. Just because the sound is different then what they grew up listening to. That’s what makes it Hip-Hop, it’s different, it’s creative, it’s expression, etc. Get over it!! God I swear I can’t stand this culture anymore. Fuck Hip-Hop!!!
I only listen to 90’s HipHop(with very few exceptions), because artists like Lil Wayne, Chief Keef, 2Chainz, etc don’t seem to have any interest in putting effort into their music. What a lot of artists do is simply abuse the name of HipHop to get themselves rich; there’s no passion for the genre anymore. Big Pun, Big L, 2pac, early 2000s Eminem, Immortal Technique, and Nas would easily ghetto stomp any of these freeloading chump niggas because they got to where they are by being Masters of the written word. Most of these new guys sound like they’re rapping with turrets.
Tourette’s*
he’s right though, there’s alot great rap that isn’t Hip-Hop music, there’s alot of hip-hop music that ain’t rap (break records, DJ Shadow, instrumental shit).. a rap beat isn’t necessarily a hip-hop beat, doesn’t mean it isn’t dope. hip-hop purists are the like bible thumpers
finaly
hip hop making a come back
He’s right. Even the vets know that shit is trash. It’s music for white hipsters and kids under 20. I’m not impressed
Kendrick is as hip-hop as it gets these days
Kendrick sings with that annoying ass gay voice most of the time and his lyrics are so so
Coming from the guy who had a reality tv show
Jay Z and Kayne are wack ass pop but Drake is a true hiphop artist (although I fear that, if he leaves, he will only make pop music.)
When Snoop first came out! Nearly 20 years ago! Now, he’s the biggest wankster, fake I don’t know what to be anymore, Reggae or Rap! Ass Clown
best thing he could do was leave that wack ass label, they’re just dragging him down
Drake is staying at ymcmb.
Wrong, dentalbitch.
Flava you never made a HIPHOPRECORD. You just a sidekick who can only say: booooooooooooooooooy. You wack as fuck.
Peace to Chuck D
What about “911 is a Joke” . I dont agree wit Flav but we gotta respect the O.G.’z
Spot on.
Flav is an idiot. straight up, booooooooooooooyyy!
This crackhead don’t get no respect…walking around with a fucking Viking helmet on. gtfoh
what?
“Don’t Wanna Be Called Your N*gga”
you ain’t hear the words on “Yo! Bum Rush The Show” or “Public Enemy #1”
but I can see you clowns just don’t get it, that’s why Flav is still here
Public Enemy>>>>>>>>>
when did snoop make a great rap album
doggystyle
u want to do him doggystyle dont u? doggystyle disappointed me when it came out. after hearing him on chronic dre day and g thang i expected hardcore and instead got whats my name and la di da di and corny shit. it was only a good album cause dre was behind it and he was hot then
^^^ LOL.
That shit stood the test of time and is still remembered to this day/ It’s a classic.
thought this guy was being serious until he said lil wayne is making great rap records LOL
Kendrick Lamar and Drake are not Hip Hop? This dudes got shit twisted.
Drake? You got shit twisted
Drake is a auto tune singer not hip hop at all he dont even rap
Kendrick IS HIP-HOP, Drake could be if he wanted to but he doesn;t
drake is hip hop like it or not don’t know why ppl go up in arms for this shit. just say he’s alternate rap or alt hip hop. fucks sake even HIP POP or Electropop. Shit even Limp Bizkit is Nu Metal aka Rap Metal. sheesh
Drake is one of the best in the game but people still try to deny it. Smh. You don’t have to like his music but you can’t deny his skills. He’s a dope lyricist AND he’s one of the few good songwriters in hip hop.
both them dudes are gay
They are not hip hop in the least. They are watered down versions of what some corporation thinks rap music is.
I had so much hope for Kendrick when I heard his verse on “The City”. But then he just went downhill and started swimming in the mainstream.
Snoop Dogg now it is Reggae
Another article about nothing. Thanks DX! Least ya got that click!
you*
the reality is you’re to stupid to understand
with that reasoning, then anything past 1992 wasn’t hiphop basically…
You think?
Wu Tang Forever basically closed out the greatest era of HIP HOP. After that she basically went down.
pac and biggie were around till 96…yet, another retard on this site.
He’s talking about RAP….that shit that sucks up to Mainstream America… and never steps out of line by saying something intelligent that might upset the satus-quo
Yeezus did that and all of the hardcore rap heads hated on it.
JADEN SMITH IS HIP HOP,
JADEN SMITH IS HIP HOP, 2020 YOU WILL SEE
dese niggas is confused about hip hop
who had the audacity to interview this nigga
why are you interested?
Drake’s not leaving ymcmb. He showed up for wayne’s performance in nyc.
Bullshit.
if you can’t cabbage patch or running man to it, it’s not no hip hop mayne
Ahhhhh, good ish.
Damn, who would imagine this crackhead nigga would be makin sense
At least Flava Flav is keeping it real in 2013.
Yo MCs!!! Check me out for some hot beats!!! djkingbeats. com
Kendrick is talented but his music doesn’t stand next to other classic hip hop records. I think that’s what Flav is talking about. The feeling you have when u hear a Wu-tang record, LL record etc. These new dudes have lyrics but they don’t make joints that make u want to change the world or dance till u pass out. And even lyrically they’re not messing with the hip hop artists from late 80’s, 90’s.
Public Enemy music didnt make you want to dance. It was political rap. what makes hip hop what it is is the ability to infuse all genre of music into hip hop. Producers sample music from country, pop, rock, ect. Slow tempo? Listen to all Wu albums they are all slow tempo. Flav had zero lyrics he was a hype man.
Dude I completely agree. I really like Kendrick, hes a great artist, but compared to hip hop from 80s 90s and even early 2000s hes just not on par.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Snoop is like an author with writer’s block. That nigga can spit. We see it here. He’s a real nigga. But he just got too commercial and scripted. Then again, I’m 31 so I remember when stupid ass white christians bought his records out and steam-rolled them. Saw it on the news. Then this nigga came out like nothing we had ever seen before. He got old, corny and predictable. I still love him and appreciate what he did, though.
@real, BS we gigged all the time in the late 80s early 90s to PE. How is James Brown not danceable?!?!?
Man I’m so sick of Ol’ Farts saying what is and isn’t Hip Hop. I don’t care if the Ol Fart is Flavour Flav. I’ve been listening to Hip hop all my life, and there is no better time than right now to get into this new music. It’s dope, it’s fresh, it’s Hip Hop. If you hate it stick to your golden oldies and grow old too – or make something better if you can! Sheeesh.
You are a dumbass if you think that right now is better than it was in the 90s. That statement alone disqualifies you from having any opinion regarding rap ever. You dont know shit. No lyricism, no punchlines, no metaphors, no complexity, everything is slow and single syllable, same dumb ass snare on everything, Whackest period in rap ever.
nope, you just an old OLD fart Anonymous. You a faded memory with your old ass rhymes from yesteryear. You ain’t Fresh. Yawn.
Lee is a young fag.
Take a look at a single year in the 90s, such as 1994 or 1996, two of the greatest years ever in Hip Hop, and see all the classic albums that came out in ONE YEAR ALONE.
Compare that to any of the last few years, and there are very few albums you could call a classic.
Hip Hop has clearly deteriorated.
If your not from our state… Snoop actually drives around by himself in a low rider. If you drive around long enough you will seem him around most hoods in So Cal. I dont know of any other famous person who goes around with that much respect. Don’t get Pimp slapped!
SO? DBlock walk around their city all the time like its nothing. BEAT THAT!
No clue how he hates on kendrick, even jay. I agree with all the other shit though. wayne 50 minaj. all as mainstream as you can get. Its like a revolution for freedom happened and then the rebels decide to act worse than the ones they over threw. whack as fuckkkkkk
Home > News > Flavor Flav Explains Why Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar & Drake Music Is “Not Hip Hop”
Flavor Flav Explains Why Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar & Drake Music Is “Not Hip Hop”
by Andres Tardio
posted July 31, 2013 at 5:15PM EST | 59 comments
Flavor Flav Explains Why Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar & Drake Music Is “Not Hip Hop”
The Public Enemy member says Nicki Minaj, Ludacris and Snoop Dogg are making “great Rap records” but adds that they are also “not Hip Hop.”
Flavor Flav recently said that Rap has lost “the element of Hip Hop.”
“I think the element of Hip Hop left when Rap music started being created on a slow tempo,” Flavor Flav told Gigwise. “It’s just stayed there for years. Right now, a lot of Rap music today is being created at very low tempos.”
While several artists today make “great Rap records,” the Public Enemy rapper said that artists today do not make “Hip Hop” music.
“There’s no more of that, ‘Wave your hands in the air like you just don’t care,’ you know, something that makes you wanna get out there and breakdance,” he said. “Rap music has lost that element right now, mainly over in America. There’s not too many great Hip Hop records out there, but there are some great Rap records. Lil Wayne is making some great Rap records, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Ludacris, Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar, 50 Cent, Snoop [Lion] – everybody is making great Rap records, but it’s not Hip Hop.”
In other Flavor Flav news, Flavor Flav’s Chicken & Ribs recently went out business. On July 26, TMZ reported that the last of Flav’s Chicken & Ribs was shut down after being evicted in Sterling Heights, Michigan. Flav’s Chicken & Ribs locations in Las Vegas and Iowa had already been closed.
Last year, it was reported that Flavor Flav talked about the “dark holes” he’s been through in his life. “I’ve been down some pretty dark holes – but somehow I always found the strength to climb back out of them,” he said.
RELATED: Flavor Flav Explains Covering His Darker Periods In New Memoir
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Kizman:
If your not from our state… Snoop actually drives around by himself in a low rider. If you drive around long enough you will seem him around most hoods in So Cal. I dont know of any other famous person who goes around with that much respect. Don’t get Pimp slapped!
Postedjust now | Reply
Anonymous:
SO? DBlock walk around their city all the time like its nothing. BEAT THAT!
Postedjust now
Lee:
Man I’m so sick of Ol’ Farts saying what is and isn’t Hip Hop. I don’t care if the Ol Fart is Flavour Flav. I’ve been listening to Hip hop all my life, and there is no better time than right now to get into this new music. It’s dope, it’s fresh, it’s Hip Hop. If you hate it stick to your golden oldies and grow old too – or make something better if you can! Sheeesh.
Posted21 minutes ago | Reply
Anonymous:
You are a dumbass if you think that right now is better than it was in the 90s. That statement alone disqualifies you from having any opinion regarding rap ever. You dont know shit. No lyricism, no punchlines, no metaphors, no complexity, everything is slow and single syllable, same dumb ass snare on everything, Whackest period in rap ever.
Postedthe future!
Lee:
nope, you just an old OLD fart Anonymous. You a faded memory with your old ass rhymes from yesteryear. You ain’t Fresh. Yawn.
Postedthe future!
Anonymous:
Kendrick is talented but his music doesn’t stand next to other classic hip hop records. I think that’s what Flav is talking about. The feeling you have when u hear a Wu-tang record, LL record etc. These new dudes have lyrics but they don’t make joints that make u want to change the world or dance till u pass out. And even lyrically they’re not messing with the hip hop artists from late 80’s, 90’s.
Postedan hour ago | Reply
real:
Public Enemy music didnt make you want to dance. It was political rap. what makes hip hop what it is is the ability to infuse all genre of music into hip hop. Producers sample music from country, pop, rock, ect. Slow tempo? Listen to all Wu albums they are all slow tempo. Flav had zero lyrics he was a hype man.
Postedan hour ago
YES:
Dude I completely agree. I really like Kendrick, hes a great artist, but compared to hip hop from 80s 90s and even early 2000s hes just not on par.
Postedan hour ago
Nick T:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Snoop is like an author with writer’s block. That nigga can spit. We see it here. He’s a real nigga. But he just got too commercial and scripted. Then again, I’m 31 so I remember when stupid ass white christians bought his records out and steam-rolled them. Saw it on the news. Then this nigga came out like nothing we had ever seen before. He got old, corny and predictable. I still love him and appreciate what he did, though.
Posteda few seconds ago
DJ K.I.N.G.:
At least Flava Flav is keeping it real in 2013.
Yo MCs!!! Check me out for some hot beats!!! djkingbeats. com
Postedan hour ago | Reply
BBlanco:
Damn, who would imagine this crackhead nigga would be makin sense
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
OC:
if you can’t cabbage patch or running man to it, it’s not no hip hop mayne
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
dentaldamboy:
Drake’s not leaving ymcmb. He showed up for wayne’s performance in nyc.
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
who had the audacity to interview this nigga
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
why are you interested?
Posted2 hours ago
Anonymous:
dese niggas is confused about hip hop
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
qas:
JADEN SMITH IS HIP HOP, 2020 YOU WILL SEE
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
qas:
JADEN SMITH IS HIP HOP,
Posted2 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
He’s talking about RAP….that shit that sucks up to Mainstream America… and never steps out of line by saying something intelligent that might upset the satus-quo
Posted3 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
with that reasoning, then anything past 1992 wasn’t hiphop basically…
Posted3 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
You think?
Posted3 hours ago
Anonymous:
Wu Tang Forever basically closed out the greatest era of HIP HOP. After that she basically went down.
Posted3 hours ago
Anonymous:
pac and biggie were around till 96…yet, another retard on this site.
Postedthe future!
…:
Another article about nothing. Thanks DX! Least ya got that click!
Posted4 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
you*
Posted3 hours ago
Anonymous:
the reality is you’re to stupid to understand
Posted2 hours ago
Anonymous:
Snoop Dogg now it is Reggae
Posted4 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
Kendrick Lamar and Drake are not Hip Hop? This dudes got shit twisted.
Posted4 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
Drake? You got shit twisted
Posted4 hours ago
Fck ymcmb:
Drake is a auto tune singer not hip hop at all he dont even rap
Posted4 hours ago
Anonymous:
Kendrick IS HIP-HOP, Drake could be if he wanted to but he doesn;t
Posted4 hours ago
Anonymous:
drake is hip hop like it or not don’t know why ppl go up in arms for this shit. just say he’s alternate rap or alt hip hop. fucks sake even HIP POP or Electropop. Shit even Limp Bizkit is Nu Metal aka Rap Metal. sheesh
Posted3 hours ago
YEAH.:
Drake is one of the best in the game but people still try to deny it. Smh. You don’t have to like his music but you can’t deny his skills. He’s a dope lyricist AND he’s one of the few good songwriters in hip hop.
Posted3 hours ago
not hiphop:
both them dudes are gay
Posted2 hours ago
You have to ask?:
They are not hip hop in the least. They are watered down versions of what some corporation thinks rap music is.
Posted2 hours ago
LDR:
I had so much hope for Kendrick when I heard his verse on “The City”. But then he just went downhill and started swimming in the mainstream.
Postedan hour ago
lol:
thought this guy was being serious until he said lil wayne is making great rap records LOL
Posted4 hours ago | Reply
uessir:
when did snoop make a great rap album
Posted4 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
doggystyle
Posted4 hours ago
georgel:
u want to do him doggystyle dont u? doggystyle disappointed me when it came out. after hearing him on chronic dre day and g thang i expected hardcore and instead got whats my name and la di da di and corny shit. it was only a good album cause dre was behind it and he was hot then
Posted3 hours ago
dentaldamboy:
Jay Z and Kayne are wack ass pop but Drake is a true hiphop artist (although I fear that, if he leaves, he will only make pop music.)
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
When Snoop first came out! Nearly 20 years ago! Now, he’s the biggest wankster, fake I don’t know what to be anymore, Reggae or Rap! Ass Clown
Posted4 hours ago
-:
best thing he could do was leave that wack ass label, they’re just dragging him down
Posted3 hours ago
dentaldamboy:
Drake is staying at ymcmb.
Posted2 hours ago
Anonymous:
Flava you never made a HIPHOPRECORD. You just a sidekick who can only say: booooooooooooooooooy. You wack as fuck.
Peace to Chuck D
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
@N8ShortPolitrix:
What about “911 is a Joke” . I dont agree wit Flav but we gotta respect the O.G.’z
Posted4 hours ago
rideonemjixxer:
Spot on.
Flav is an idiot. straight up, booooooooooooooyyy!
Posted4 hours ago
Anonymous:
This crackhead don’t get no respect…walking around with a fucking Viking helmet on. gtfoh
Posted3 hours ago
Anonymous:
what?
“Don’t Wanna Be Called Your N*gga”
you ain’t hear the words on “Yo! Bum Rush The Show” or “Public Enemy #1”
but I can see you clowns just don’t get it, that’s why Flav is still here
Public Enemy>>>>>>>>>
Posted2 hours ago
Not Impressed:
He’s right. Even the vets know that shit is trash. It’s music for white hipsters and kids under 20. I’m not impressed
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
Kendrick is as hip-hop as it gets these days
Posted4 hours ago
overrated:
Kendrick sings with that annoying ass gay voice most of the time and his lyrics are so so
Posted2 hours ago
kayaman:
Coming from the guy who had a reality tv show
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
finaly
hip hop making a come back
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
-:
he’s right though, there’s alot great rap that isn’t Hip-Hop music, there’s alot of hip-hop music that ain’t rap (break records, DJ Shadow, instrumental shit).. a rap beat isn’t necessarily a hip-hop beat, doesn’t mean it isn’t dope. hip-hop purists are the like bible thumpers
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
Anonymous:
I hate when people act like they know what Hip-Hop is & act like it should be what they say it is. STFU already. Rap is one of the elements of Hip-Hop. Just because the sound is different then what they grew up listening to. That’s what makes it Hip-Hop, it’s different, it’s creative, it’s expression, etc. Get over it!! God I swear I can’t stand this culture anymore. Fuck Hip-Hop!!!
Posted5 hours ago | Reply
LDR:
I only listen to 90’s HipHop(with very few exceptions), because artists like Lil Wayne, Chief Keef, 2Chainz, etc don’t seem to have any interest in putting effort into their music. What a lot of artists do is simply abuse the name of HipHop to get themselves rich; there’s no passion for the genre anymore. Big Pun, Big L, 2pac, early 2000s Eminem, Immortal Technique, and Nas would easily ghetto stomp any of these freeloading chump niggas because they got to where they are by being Masters of the written word. Most of these new guys sound like they’re rapping with turrets.
Postedan hour ago
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what part of Hip Hop is dead does anybody not get
The “Hip Hop is dead” part.
I agree with Flav to a certain extent. Not with who in particular he called out, but in the fact that you don’t get that “feeling” like you used to with the music. It’s like everyone is following the same formula. Like the dunk contest in the NBA. You’ve seen every dunk by now. Now it’s just getting gimmicky. Not to knock him, but Lil’ John made all this happen in ’04. While he did make “hits”, it kinda hurt the industry for the worst because ALL records started to sound like that. Plus it was nothing but “fight in the club” music. I will say this. Kendrick, Drake, Cole, Curren$y…you “really” have to listen to these guys’ music. We seem to dismiss EVERYTHING that isn’t from the era when we grew up…
Totes agree Ezra. I don’t really understand Hip Hop heads who still listen to the 80’s and 90’s raps almost exclusivly. Man I juiced those babies dry at the time. the new sounds are amazing, the feeling of the music and the lyrics really speaks to me, and I’m from the old school. Some of these peeps are not giving it enough of a go. Sick of the Hip Hop wingers. There is more singing and R&B in Hip Hop these days – I think that’s what people hate. Not me, I love great R&B vocals and Funk. This is a golden age for great vocals in Hip Hop.
he’s telling the truth point blank
i see what he’s saying, but i disagree. Music evolves, or rather art in general evolves. From a musical perspective yes, rap music has changed alot since the days of Public Enemy, its no longer built around the same musical elements it once was, but that doesnt mean its not hip hop. Structurally Roseanne was a very different show than the Jeffersons, but it was still a family sitcom, it was an evolution. And thats what hip hop music has done, its evolved. Evolution doesnt always mean you’ll like it, and doesnt even necessarily mean progress, it just means change. Change to adapt to an environment.
Exactly!!!
Chuuuch!
did you just use roseanne as a metaphor for hip hop..
So much truth in what you just said!
I think he is just saying that “hip hop” sound is gone. It’s always been rap music. But he is saying “hip hop” was a sound and style that is dead and people are just still calling it hip hop out of habit. He is being technical and he has a point. He didn’t say anything bad about anyone, just using the top dogs as examples.
But to his point, he was stating that there is no diversity in rap music. In rock there is diversity and even shades of old school rock music, in R&B …well scratch that…In Jazz music there is diversity, even in pop music there is diversity, but in hip hop and R&B it’s all about doing what everyone else is doing. It seems like hip hop (rap)music as a follower culture, those who listen to it, follow the trends, those that do it, follow the trends…where are the trendsetters (save maybe Kendrick & Cole)-where are those that create something new, talk about something new? Where are the people that make music for the voiceless? How much Molly Music can you listen too? How much money music can you listen too? how much pu*sy music can you listen too? Damn man, open up your mind to different stuff and stop being a follower. Start a trend, to follow one.
Flav should get a book deal
Jay Z is boring and 50 cent fell off a long damn time ago.
he’s kinda right but not at the same time , even soulja boy is hip hop whether we like it or not , hip hop is about expressing yourself , hip hop started from nothing and took over the world
Hip Hop started from the black community and black culture…
“In other Flavor Flav news…” lol… these journalists kill me!!!
as a close friend of Lil Wayne, I can confirm Lil Wayne, Drake and Nicki Minaj are real hip hop and dey reformed da game. according to Weezy’s fan letters, 90% of black americans think YMCMB is real hip hop. so da majority of hip hop ppl accept YMCMB as da greatest hip hop label ever. Rich Gang just outsold Magna Carte… Holy Camel Shit. YMCMB runnin rap. swag
On what planet did Rich gang outsell Magna? Not earth.
“The album pushed 24,000 units off shelves, debuting at #9. In other chart news, Jay Z has been pushed from the #1 spot to #2 on the Billboard 200, making room for Selena Gomez’ album.”
Do you know doing business and making money is the simple fact of minding your own business. Dis black ass nigga with no sense and as a black man he simply is don’t know things change but hes use to the hood and because of black lames the hood will never change
Universal newest signed artist Dre-Rich
LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME ! LOOK HOW FAR I CAME !
http://www.datpiff.com/Dre-Rich-Look-How-Far-I-Came-mixtape.516239.html
there’s thousands of rappers signed to Universal…no one will still know about you except your hood.
Hell, my moma is signed to Universal, but she ain’t got no record coming out.
Real talk new york.
flavor who????
your favorite hype mans, favorite hypeman
Flavor Meaning Flavor Flav, the one that help mainstream hip hop music with millions of records sold, sold out concerts, movie soundtrack leads and a political view in music that has yet to be rivaled.These dudes talked about equal justice for people, not bowing down to the system of injustice, the systematic effort to incarcerate young black males and being a voice to help the people THAT WAS PUBLIC ENEMY #1…now, people are talking about Weed, Mollies, more weed, more mollies and women. That’s it folks, a very shallow existance of creativity.
^ You acting like Flavor Flav actually said any kind of shit Chuck D. was saying. Anybody who makes a reality show on VH1 has no dignity and you don’t want him being a “face” of what hip-hop “should” be.
^^ And your point is
Kendrick Lamar, Ab-Soul, Bishop Nehru, Joey Bada$$, Logic, Sir E.U ,everyone saying hiphop is dead STFU and stop listening to hip-hop go listen to some Pop. there’s plenty of new artist who embody the true essence of the art form niggas who stuck in the past arnt healthy for the culture they just hold it back no one wants to hear your complaints .FOH.
…And that’s the truth.
hip hops changing for the better
i garentee you rap will be dope in 2015
Glad somebody’s speaking the truth.
Most of u guys r stupid, flavor flav is 100% right. It’s not rly hip hop like it was then. You can’t get up and start dancing, unless u think bumpin is dancing, which it isn’t at all, which is why I only rly listen to Biggie and other oldies
Nah, you’re the stupid one kid. You can’t dance to biggie any more than you can to Kendrick or any other new music. You’re just stuck in the 90’s. Free your mind and move forward.
To each his own!
I agree 100% with Flav in that Hip Hop doesn’t really exist anymore, even though I think all of us real headz already know that so Flav is pretty much stating the obvious but it’s all cool. I like to see legends speaking out about it. As far as Flav saying Lil Wayne, Drake etc are making good “Rap Records”, fuck that shit! Pretty much everybody nowadays is wack as fuck. Even SOME of the legends still in the game are slipping and getting old. E’z up!
Dude the f*ck you talmbout? You agreed 100%, then you turn around and disagree about his emcee selections?
The fact is Flav is a moron who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s trying to create publicity.
He said he agree 100% that Hip Hop doesn’t exist anymore. The MC selection was a different portion of Flav’s overall statement.
Flav? You forgot me and j cole
And thats what hip hop music has done, its evolved
Mmmmmm no! Hip hop is deteriorating and the standards got lowered and people are cool with it that’s not evolving, if it was evolving it would improve and I don’t mean technology or sales I mean better lyrics, different beats, concepts than before.
I agree. The standards are so much lower today that its not even funny. When I see the words “evolved” or “evolving” I totally dismiss it. How is hip hop evolving if the music is worse than it was? I think the underground is in a good place, but there’s still way too much trash in the mainstream.
I sorta agree with Flav. Certain elements of the culture are just flat out dead and it’s really sad. You used to see them on the mainstream level, but not anymore. Breaking is long gone. Beatboxing on skits….see ya. The use of a DJ cutting and scratching records is pretty much dead. Preemo is doing his best to keep it alive, but these new mainstream artist don’t check for him. I remember when artists used to showcase their DJ on tracks and just have them cutting and scratching for the entire song. Eric B/Rakim, EPMD, P.E., Kool G Rap & Polo, RUN DMC and others from that era and in the 90’s. You’ll never hear a scratch or any kinda DJ work on a Drake, Cole or Kendrick album. None of them young cats are trying to bring that shit back. All these plastic beats are made on laptops now. So in a way Flav is right. You take away those elements and we’re left with rap, not hip hop. Shit is sad.
I don’t know man. I’ve been deep in this hip-hop culture for over 25 years. To me it’s called progress and it’s a good thing.
I never liked the scratching or beat boxing skits. In fact I wish skits on albums could be phased out altogether. They’re just filler.
Personally I think hip-hop is in a really good place right now.
The underground is in good shape. Too much watered down garbage in the mainstream though. Not even 10 years ago I could sit down and listen to the radio. That’s almost impossible to do today.
“Plastic beats on laptops”
So I guess The Roots are the only real hip-hop music around? Sampling is done with machines, yo.
And out of everything you could say is wrong with hip-hop (or make an argument for), you’re down about scratches and DJs? Nothing ever stays the same for very long.
^Yes a lot of the beats today don’t have an organic feel to them. Yes sampling is done on machines, but those doing the sampling today don’t know their ish like the producers before them. that’s what i mean by plastic.
And, this whole thing was started by a DJ. So why should we be okay and accept DJying being phased out? Some things don’t need to change and should remain in tact or involved in the culture. There’s some things good in hip hop, but there’s a lot wrong with it…horrible artists left and right, artists who don’t care about the art, industry politics, internet, media, radio…you can talk all day about that stuff. The late 80’s to mid 90’s were called the “golden era” for a reason. You can’t even label or define the shit that’s out now. So I find this whole evolution, progression stuff overrated if the quality of music is not improving.
Wow a logical discussion on HHDX. #Salute all of you guys on this thread and each of you make some solid points.
^True. You don’t see that too often around here anymore. It is good to see. Respect!
Basically you can tell if a beat came out of a sample kit or if it was actually dug up by the producer even when it’s a short measure. Hooks killed the scratch interlude and no song out in any genre has a bridge anymore just verse hook, verse hook done no climax no conclusion no soul.
I THINK PEOPLE FORGOT WHAT HIPHOP SOUNDS LIKE
REAL HIP HOP GIVES OF A CERTAIN FEELING
THE MAINSTREAM WAY OFF
1973 2 turntables, Mc, B-boys, Graffiti & kinowledge if you not that you may not be hip hop….. Bboys break to funk and break beats and not hip hop unless its from back in the day and that’s sad…. The underground had some good music but not on the same level……There are way too many mc’s and not enough mics !!!!!!!
RESPECT YA ELDERS ASSHOLES…FLAVA HAS BEEN IN THE HIP HOP GAME FROM THE START SO FUCK ALL YALL WHO SAY FLAVA WHO AND THOSE WHO SAY HE SUCKS…YOU SUCK!…HE KNOWS MORE SHIT THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW ABOUT HIP HOP…AND YEAH HE IS RIGHT…WHO THE FUCK IS HIP HOP NOWADAYS?HIP HOP DOESNT MEAN JUST RAP…HIP HOP=4 ELEMENTS..ARTISTS LIKE KRS ONE AND COMMON ARE HIP HOP ARTISTS…THE OTHERS AINT TRUE TO IT..THEY JUST USE HIP HOP TO GET RICH…HOW IS LAMAR,JOEY BADASS HIP HOP BACK?HOW?WHAT SPECIAL ARE THEY DOIN?JUST AVERAGE RAP..FUCK OUT OF HERE!
Flavor Flav : “There’s no more of that, ‘Wave your hands in the air like you just don’t care,’ you know, something that makes you wanna get out there and breakdance,”
What a faggot Lol ,STFU u stupid old azz mothafucka. Go and listen to some Grandmaster Flash or some shit, Haaaaaahaaaaa
stay in school
haaaahaaaa….No
Your Mom needs to………..stay indoors , cus Im gonna rape her ugly azz and slash that bitches throat 🙂
Haaaaaahaaaaa yes
@nu music,,,,,When you get off punishment?,,lol,,hahaaaaaa that fuc boi and your moms ,,,,,swallows,,,hahaaaaaa,,,,,,respect you elders. Sonny,,,,,hahaaaaaa,,,before you get banged like sonny,,haaaaahaaaa
So can everybody stop acknowledging that this pathetic piece of human waste even exists. I mean seriously if all his reality TV garbage wasn’t enough, they let him talk sh*t about his own culture from the outside.
Chuck D was the real voice of Public Enemy, Flav was just along for the ride. So I’d even go as far as saying Flav has never contributed to this culture in a meaningful way.
Wrong!!!!,,,,,,,check the catalog ,,,,,,and by the way what have you done for hip hop lately
hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!
i can’t wait to hear how butthurt the munchkins get over this.
I agree with him. But naming Hova, Kendrick and Snoop in the same list as Nicki Minaj, Wayne and Drake… That’s just straight out stupid.
IM GOING TO SUFFOCATE CHUCK D’S WIFE WITH A PLATIC BAG. HOW DARE YOU SPEAK THIS WAY FAGGOT.
http://www.blackvibes.com/features/blogs/scopemag12-hip-hop-dx/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
It is called evolution you crack head! While I will not say that the hip pop contingent should be grouped with those still making good legit music like a Lamar if the music sounded today like it did 30 years ago it would have died. This is why he was just a hype man and Chuck D was the true artist. Flav earns repsect based on his past but what he has done in recent memory, cradle of love (or whatever that stupid show with the Amazon was) for instance, makes it hard to tak his opinion seriously.
Ironic… so tell us why your opinion matters?
@zero,,,,,I can’t do nothin for you man,,,,and don’t call 911 cause they are a joke,,,flav has songs,,,listen to the catalog,,,,,
If these corporate mcs were out 20 years ago, this genre would have never got a lift off. Yes these artist are living off a hype these real street dudes did 30 years ago
So Hip-Hop, as Flavor Flav seemingly defines it in this article, is music you dance to.
MAN FUCK THIS BLACK MOTHER FUCKER
I’m guessing you’re one of the dumb North Americans.
Following this logic, Soulja Boy is more hip-hop than K Dot.
Lets just marinate on that one for a bit.
no.
kendrick got lyrics his sound sucks tho
tde got tracks
some are dope some arnt
Flava Flav spkeaking the truth. Gay-Z FOR SURE isn’t making Hip Hop records, never has never will. The only mf that keeps it Hip Hop is Mos Def, and a few others, nas.
All this shit is pure hot garbage rap
Life must suck for you
I agree with Jay Z(hustler) and Drake(corny symp songs). But Kendrick is hip hop. He’s all about being creative with the lyrics and tracks
And Kdot can’t wait to be Hov the Hustler lol.
According to MY understanding of Hip Hop, what makes a song Hip Hop or not, besides the instrumental (for example, sampling is one of the cornerstones of TRADITIONAL Hip Hop music), is whether the song actually REPRESENTS the urban (primarily the black) community. Hip Hop is a CULTURE, 1st and foremost, and as such, the music SHOULD represent the culture. That said, I actually AGREE with Flav when he says there’s a lot of good RAP being made, but not a lot of good HIP HOP being made. I simply disagree with his reasoning. To me, it’s not about tempo, it’s about LYRICAL CONTENT. Hip Hop music has ALWAYS had 2 sides, the PARTY side (Rapper’s Delight) and the SOCIAL/POLITICAL side (The Message). It seems that today the SOCIAL/POLITICAL side of Hip Hop has been abandoned in favor of the PARTY side. Today EVERYBODY’S a “baller” and NOBODY (at least nobody who’s getting any SERIOUS radio play) is making music touching on the SOCIAL/POLITICAL side. The STRUGGLE CONTINUES even TODAY, and Trayvon Martin killing, as well as the Oscar Grant MURDER is EVIDENCE of that, yet NONE of today’s POPULAR MAINSTREAM artists are REALLY touching on the STRUGGLE. Everybody’s busy PARTYIN’ and BULLSHITTIN’, and when they DO touch on a controvestial social/political issue, it’s ONLY to boost their OWN popularity.
yup yup
Well said. The industry and radio take a lot of the blame for lack of balance of what we hear. Some artists don’t even bother diving into real issues cuz their worried about their records not getting spins. The industry is so fcuked up, but is slowly making moves in the right direction.
Mainstream cats are scared to speak on issues but it goes deeper than that. Another thing with rap music on the radio is that it falls on untrained ears, if rap wasn’t so dominant now as compared to before the so called rap music fans now would be r&b fans(back then)because you had to wait a long time on the radio to catch a rap song, and wait for midnight for a whole rap show. The real hip hop fans then and now still pride themselves in having the rarest joints just like with sneakers. The rap fans follow what they’re told should be popular, they don’t think for themselves they think there’s an age limit, if your face ain’t out there you’re not relevant,count sales, count the next man’s money, but they can never say that’s a good song. They’ll tell you everything but that.
WE RUN THIS MOTHER FUCKER YOU BLACK SHIT HEADS
i knew maddcity was whack
this site full of followers
Rashad & Confidence – pen on display
Audible Doctor – The Vibe (Ft. Oddisee & Hassaan Mackey)
Union – Wings (Remix) Feat. Audible Doctor, & Elzhi (Produced by The Audible Doctor)
fuck fake mc’s
Copywrite “Love” feat Tage Future (Of MHz)
half these ppl dont even know what hip hop sound like
Elzhi – Big F.U.
Block McCloud & DJ Waxwork – Its Alive Feat. Slaine, & DC
[Jay-Z:]
I be trying to chill, bitches wanna fuck me
Every little city I go, fuck me
Shawty mustve heard, got the word, I move that D
Had it by a bladder, she like “oh I gotta pee”
Ran into a Rothko in my restroom
Singer slash actress in my bedroom
God I have the ticket for a walk through
Everything that do is big
I talk big money, I talk big homes
I sell out arenas, I call that getting dome
Million dollar voice, came through phone
We heading to the top, if you coming, come on
Im Flying out to Pisa, just to get some pizza
Fly down to Jamaica, just to roll some reefa
Sex on the beach, left love speechless
They say that money talk, tell these other niggas speak up
Whats up
flavor flav sounds like he doesnt know what hes talkin about.. he’s talkin about the “elements of hip hop” then comparing rap and hip hop as if there not 1 in the same.. RAP is ONE of the ELEMENTS of HIP HOP, contrary to popular belief, there is absolutely no difference between Rap & Hip Hop when U are strictly talking about music
RAP forgot about HIPHOP. I think what Flav means is that everyone is rapping and rhyming but their doing that to different sounds which most of the time is EDM or some other genre of music. its great to see hiphop grow but its grown so much that it has just become commercial. ALL OF IT!!. Hope to see the day where RAP remembers where it comes from and brings in the rest of the elements. when is the last time you seen a good video with a dope dj, colorful graffiti piece or Break Dancers (unchoreographed)…til then im sticking to my 90s hiphop.
Postedjust now
Hip Hop is a lifestyle… RAP is the genre of music that supports that lifestyle
RAP forgot about HIPHOP. I think what Flav means is that everyone is rapping and rhyming but their doing that to different sounds which most of the time is EDM or some other genre of music. its great to see hiphop grow but its grown so much that it has just become commercial. ALL OF IT!!. Hope to see the day where RAP remembers where it comes from and brings in the rest of the elements. when is the last time you seen a good video with a dope dj, colorful graffiti piece or Break Dancers (unchoreographed)…til then im sticking to my 90s hiphop.
THIS FAGGOT IS IRRELEVANT AND HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYBODY WITH THAT RIDICOLOUS WATH ON HIS NECK AND THAT STUPID REALITY SHOW FLAVOR OF LOVE BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT’S HIP-HOP AND WHAT’S NOT?
PEOPLE LIKE NAS, LUPE, KANYE, LIL WAYNE, GUCCI MANE, WAKA FLOCKA, COMMON AND OTHERS REPRESENT THE REAL HIP HOP.
THIS GUY IS ONLY A HYPEMAN FOR PUBLIC ENEMY, LYRICALLY HE IS CHIEF KEEF OF HIS AGE, SO FAR FROM BEING REAL AND HIP HOP.
Flav is known worldwide, still touring, still making records,and still making money.
who knows YOU?
that’s irrelevancy!
@killz That is the stupidest fucking thing to say. You don’t even give any reason why his opinion is “irrelevant” and instead insult him as a “poor and unknown” person. Why don’t you just call him ugly and gay while you’re at it? Still doesn’t change the fact that he’s right.
for the first time I agree with that yebo troll… Flav was the most unnecessary member of Public Enemy and he had some financial issues lately so I would check my facts twice if I was saying that he still makes money. And he’s not making records, he had only one solo album and last seven Public Enemy albums flopped hard, so think twice.
fuk off troll u think gucci wank and lil wendy are hip hop your obviously special or 12 either way this websites for adults there a website for you its call nick jr.com
Drake makes classic music for classless snobs who burn everything for free.
FUCK DRAKE…FUCKIN HOMOS!
flavor who?? fuck off
fuck this clown
your a fucking clown for calling someone that is known a clown
again i say
FUCK THIS CLOWN
Anonymous:
your a fucking clown for calling someone that is known a clown
STOP COMBINING RAP WITH OTHER GENRES! THAT EDM SHIT IS ENOYING! AND SOMEONE PLEASE IMPRESS ME AND RELEASE AN ALBUM ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT A BUNCH OF FEATURES!
gambino – camp
…and this is coming from a person who has never had the skills to rap. this fool said kendrick. gtfoh! crackhead!
your a fucking idiot
If your not from our state… Snoop actually drives around by himself in a low rider. If you drive around long enough you will seem him around most hoods in Cali. I dont know of any other famous person who goes around with that much respect. Don’t get Pimp slapped!
LIL WAYNE RELEASED CLASSICS LIKE “LOUISIANA LOVE” (FEAT. BIRDMAN), “CHANGES”, “DEAR MAMA”, “HAIL MARY” AND “HIT EM UP” (JAY-Z DISS)
RICK ROSS RELEASED CLASSICS LIKE “BIG POPPA”, “JUICY”, “HYPNOTIZE”, “WHO SHOT YA?”, AND “KICK IN THE DOOR”
FUTURE RELEASED CLASSICS LIKE “ATL STATE OF MIND”, “LIFE’S A BITCH” (FEAT. ROCKO), “IF I RULED THE WORLD” (FEAT. NICKI MINAJ), “ONE LOVE” AND “ETHER” (EMINEM DISS)
TUPAC MADE FUN OF EMMITT TILL
NOTORIOUS BIG MADE DATE RAPE LYRICS
NAS CAN’T EVEN SING WITH AUTOTUNE
I see what u did there
Joey Badass, Ab-Soul, Freddie Gibbs, Action Bronson, Elzhi, Tech N9ne, Kendrick, Jay Rock, Rittz, Dizzy Wright, Big K.R.I.T, etc.
Its still out there
WANT TO BE DOWN!!!!!!…QUICK!!!Grab yourself a copy of j..k!!!
THE EASIEST SIMPLEST WAY TO BE COOL> LISTEN TO SOME RAP!!!!!!!
he’s right
Hip hop evolved,this are comments of a bitter person!Hip hop is culture and culture is dynamic.
AND BY THE WAY, WHY DOESN’T THIS OLD ASS DUDE SAY THAT TECH N9NE IS NOT HIP-HOP AS WELL? DEVIL WORSHIPPING NIGGA IS WORSE THAN ANYTHING HE LISTED.
TECH N9NE (2014) – DEVIL’S LAIR
01. INTRO (THE CONVERSATION)
02. WELCOME TO THE LAIR (FT. KRIZZ KALIKO)
03. SATAN PIECE (FT. TYLER, THE CREATOR)
04. STRANGE ENERGY
05. EVIL DEEDS
06. I WORSHIP DEVIL
07. CALL ME PSYCHO
08. FUCK YOUR GODS
09. RAPE YOU
10. ENEMY OF GOD
11. PENTAGRAM CHAIN
12. A GOOD DAY IN HELL
13. RITUALS
14. LIVE FROM DEVIL’S LAIR (SKIT)
15. DEVIL’S LAIR
16. 666
17. OUTRO
Haha, someone got REALLY mad over Tech’s fantastic album. Priceless.
oooh a hypemans opinion! tell me more about sayin “yeeeah boyyyyeeeee”
he’s right.
He looks like something straight out from a Boondocks episode.
Only reason dx posted this retarted “news” article is because they know the comments will be flooding in by people who get offended and start agreeing/disagreeing. I also suspect dx of hiring people like dental and yessir to troll the readers and create more posts (lmao)
P.s. To everyone who dares to say hiphop is dead whilst replying on a ->HIPHOP site
To everyone who dares to say hiphop is dead whilst replying on a ->HIPHOP site
He has a point, but I don’t respect a senior that still rocks fitteds.
if you could, youd be a bboy for life
this is 100% true these “rappers” aint making anything a true hip hop head can relate to and the beats are wack club pop bullshit hip hop needs to be returned to us the community we are the ones that payed for the albums we are the ones who pay for live performance we are the ones who made this whole industry and this is how they repay us by shitting on us in every song they by bragging about things are money has helped them buy by slyly including clothing promotion and claiming they had nothing when they were child actors and had swimming pools hip hop started in the streets that were it should remain not spitting about your bitch ass celeb lifestyle i think the worst thing about it all is the fukin new school i despise the new school so fukin much with there stupid catchphrases (yolo , swag etc) and promoting bitch ass drugs like molly who the fuk takes tht shit i dont know a single person in the streets who pops tht faggot shit its a bout tht potent green always has been always will be which these rappers aint evan smoking i can bet my ass these rappers never smoked before they rap career and probs cant handle some pure potent grade to themselves thats why u dont see these rappers ever taking shit down these rappers are str8 up soft and half of em all sound the motherfuking same or jus str8 up yell on they tracks like lil jon another bitch in this game now we got trinidad james who is like a wacker chief keef and lil jon in one , french montana who rhymes sound like they were wrote by a 4 year old, asap rocky/big sean/drake(all these motherfuckas sound the god damn same like some lil wayne copy flows)shitty minaj which can rap but is a fukin puppet to her own fame and makes horrible ass songs, rick ross a fake ass motherfuckin cop who stole hes whole identity and a crossdressing rapper that kisses men on the lips ON CAMERA and claims hes a blood this game is all bullshit and at least flav and face have the balls to actually say it cos alot off rappers i have respect for as talented mcs are just sucking and ducking on this shit hell nas defended the new school and hes one off the greatest off all time how can someone off his lyrical calibre be feeling this bounce pop bitch hop.
stfu nigga you damn well know people ain’t reading that shit
He’s right, but then again I don’t pay former attention crackheads.