There’s definitely a generational disconnect. Murs also dropped a quote that didn’t make the final cut. He advises Yachty and them to embrace the term. I thought this was profound:
“I say Desiigner, Dolph, Yachty—be proud of it. Keep making your money. Keep pushing your movement. Look to your elders—the ones that listen to you and show you respect—look to them and listen to them because it’s gonna save you a lot of pain, but no teenager, no young person is ever going to listen to everything. You’ve gotta experience it for yourself.” – Murs
What does him being relevant or not have to do with his point being valid ?? Just because someone isn’t following a trend and isn’t in the news as much as someone else doesn’t mean what he isn’t saying shouldn’t be valued. If that was the case then I don’t even know why you out of all people should be telling us who’s relevant or not lol.
It’s not about lingo, it’s about a fundamental part of hip hop: being able to understand what the person is talkin bout lol. That’s like playing Basketball without having to score. Once again, the main issue isn’t having a different style, it’s forcing everybody else to try copy it to get exposure. Das-efx had niggas confused too, but everybody didn’t have to sound like them to get on either. If that’s the popping sound in southern regions, cool, keep that shit down there, don’t punish other areas for not doing it. There’s no reason Desiigner should be sounding like that, and being rewarded for it, that kills the whole game and the point of being original and different…
The problem with Mumble Rap is anyone can do it. It’s catchy and fun at times but it’s mainly for people who can’t speak well. Let those artist get on interviews and watch how retarded they sound.
Sht is really getting redundant honestly. I’m tired of the trap beats, the lazyily used autotune, with the migos-esque flow. Where them bars at. Where’s the substance. That’s why I respect cats like Kendrick. He’s commercial but he’s still keeping hip hop authentic/innovative. Even Kanye. This trap shit is so easy even Justin bieber can do it. I can’t wait until this shit dies. Hip hop is in shambles atm. Yall let it happen promoting this bullsht.
Times have changed really. Music is like chewing gum.throwaway, hot today gone tomorrow that’s y musicians don’t care about the art anymore, just being the top of the moment n trending style of the week. The world has just changed. Real good music is mostly niche/underground now…so u have to look for it
Nothing wrong with critical dissection. But to say something is wack in a disrespectful way because it’s not in the same vein as something decades prior is hating.
Mumble Rap is like scatting, like a style of jazz tongues and rhythms tied closer to african music. Is the style wack because they don’t speak the King’s English?
How are you gonna compare mumble “rap” to scatting? Scatting is something that requires talent and skill, it’s inventive, derives from the jazz era and is almost like beatboxing. Mumble “rap” is bullshit, not only is it difficult to make out what these CLOWNS are saying, the very little that can be understood from it is utterly meaningless! Fuck this generation, they have no respect for the art, the culture, no understanding of music, no talent, no knowledge of basic songwriting, no credibility, no understanding of punchlines, metaphors, syllables, no basic rhyming skills, there is nothing about them that personifies or defines hip-hop. They have no respect for those who laid a foundation and paved the way, those who made it possible for hip-hop to transform into its own culture & lifestyle. These fuckin clowns don’t even have what it takes to be around for 10 minutes much less a couple of years. Why do they even bother to get into the music biz if they have no talent or knowledge about the genre they’re trying to venture into? These CLOWNS are retarded and don’t stop think & realize that the “old” guys they’re antagonizing have been around for decades and that’s because they have TALENT, for one thing. These “old” dudes are legends, pioneers & emissaries of the culture, they care about good quality music and they posess the prowess to create it and stand the test of time. A lot of vets still make music, these new morons last even less than the stupid harlem shake trend from a few years back. The disdain for this generation stems from their lack of talent and respect and knowledge for the music itself. These new idiots ALL SOUND THE SAME and have no real content in that bullshit they make, they sound like they can’t even count to 5, for fuck’s sake! This generation has desecrated hip-hop to the point where they’re wearing dresses now! They’ve made a mockery of the culture & care more about being popular than the music. These new clowns are stupid. Look at soulja boy, he’s a fuckin moron who’s already faded into obscurity & has to lie about multimillion dollar deals just to stay relevant. These new morons dumbed a generation to such a degree that they call you a “hater” just because you don’t like this new wave of garbage being shoved down our throats & can’t even think of logical reasons for defending it.
Mumblingis the least of the problem. There is no art it. Dissect the lyrics and many of these “mumble” rappers make Soulja Boy look like Nas. Then add on the content, basic lyrics, with basic stereotypical rap content equals trash and self destruction. I better not see anyone who ever claims “Black Lives Matter” co-signing this new form of Blackface…. #TheRegression
This is my issue with all of this. When someone like Pete Rock speaks out against something he has a massive influence on where it is today, people want to throw his age into the equation. And that ladies and gentlemen is an issue with Hip Hop adn Black culture. We don’t think we need to show a single bit of respect to those before us. So case in point, when i was growing up, if my Mom came at me for something I thought was cool and my response was “you hating you old head”…then my Mom would have fucked me up…rightfully so.
What Pete Rock is doing is what all artists did to try and PRESERVE the culture. Now any and everyone can come into the game that at one time required some kind of effort….and now these same kids get to dictate the direction of the culture? No putting in dues, no respecting the culture or the pioneers….just telling everyone their old and we are all supposed to just accept it because they are in the game.
GTFOH. Art is NOT art if ANYONE can do it. There is a reason why people praise a Nas or an Eminem, because what they do is not easy duplicate, the same way a nigga with some paintbrushes cannot just make a Picasso. But the more and more we allow these kids to shit on the culture and the history, the more and more Hip Hop will falter. That is fact. We are going to fuck around nd out pioneers are going to be pushed out and away and when the culture looks like bullshit, then what? This is the sale of BET all over again……think about it.
Stop trying to make this a new generation vs old generation fuck that it’s about real lyricists vs dude who don’t know how to rap. They’re are plenty of “new” rappers who are real lyricists, I.E. Kendrick , Cole, Logic, Futuristic, etc those dudes are keeping hip hop alive. Yatchy uzi Kodak are destroying our culture
This Justin Hunte dude is the CORNIEST mf i’ve ever heard speak as some type of authority on hip hop, and he’s got a bald face. Black men need to have facial hair to be taken seriously.
Biggest issue in rap and hiphop is the system keeps us hating on each other, young cat vs old head, dark skin vs light skin. The issues is not us it’s who’s controlling the system and the industry, that def aint us. People like lyor Cohen who’s pushing people like fetty wap
Young thug, Migos, Riff Raff, we lost control of hiphop and we cant get it back it’s been polluted. A lot of people complain about the
garbage music thats out but when someone dopes drop you will just say he’s dope and not support him by buying his or her record. Another big issue is it’s a new generation we gotta get over it, Same way when our parents and elders where bumping Al green, temptations, etc and they look at us crazy for bumping Bone thugs, tupac, nas, biggie, master p, outkast.
Honestly we complain about what we don’t like more than we praise what we do like if I don’t like something I’m not giving it my energy. It would be like if you had a fine, smart girl on your arm and there was another girl you hated, and you were constantly complaining about the girl you didn’t like, and your girl was trying to talk to you and your like wait baby wait I’m trying to tell this girl why I don’t like her.
I recall Ghostface rappin on Fishscale about D4L “how did these niggas get past me?”… aaaaaaand D4L isn’t worth remembering and that was like 10yrs ago. Every generation of hip hop has it’s “da fuck is this shit?!” artists. They come, look ridiculous, make their scene, act like they’re some kind of innovative breath of fresh air, hip hop revival and in 6 months to a year people forget about them and move on to the next wack ass rappers… circle of life. As long as the real artists keep droppin music (check the new stuff from De La, RZA in Banks & Steelz, Atmosphere, Game and Phonte, Snoop etc) then who the hell cares what these young internet rappers are doin? No one will be speaking their names in 1-2 years time unless it’s “yo, remember _________________… man their shit was wack”
Justin hunte represents everything wrong with music journalism in the modern era. You can’t possibly be a reputable journalist if you can’t relate to and defend the most popular music around at any given moment, now can you? So in comes the sucking up and excuses. You can try to invoke any past musical movement you want but when your lyrics are of lower quality than Does Your Chain Hang Low and This Is Why I’m Hot you need to reevaluate your choice of profession. Stop pretending and realize the tide is turning. Here in Detroit the “throwback” hip-hop station shot to number 1 in the ratings after just two months on air. The public is starting to come to the same conclusion as the commenters here. That garbage is getting played out. Stop pretending and give it a real evaluation. I know you don’t really like it, if you did you wouldn’t need to reach so far to defend it.
If he was worth that much he wouldn’t be doing love and hip hop. I seen that episode where they showed his
apartment, not house but apartment it look like some section 8 housing .
I get your point and I like Ice T over souljah boy, but let’s be honest Ice T wasn’t good either. Plus Ice T is an example of a
old school dude just hating, that is a little different from being critical.
What the fuck are you talking about? Songs like 6 In The Morning or Colors are still dope as fuck. I still get goosebumps when that baseline on Colors drops.
“I am a nightmare walkin/psychopath talkin/ king of my jungle just a gangsta stalkin….”
The West Coast wouldn’t be where it is today without rappers like Too Short and Ice T.
Those were dope songs but still Ice T wasn’t that good of a rapper period. The west coast would have been fine without Ice T. In all honesty MC Hammer was a better rapper than Ice T, that’s not me trying to be funny or joking but seriously .
The technology makes it easy for a regular dude to start singing on a fruity loops beat with auto tune with no years of practice to make song, then social media is all about popularity rather than quality art. This makes for the combination of what you see today in the music business. I with Justin and Murs Maco ect thinking that the last generation did the same of rebellion with the craft. What Pete Rock and Premo did after Bambaataa Flash and Mele mel was elevate the skill. So no Murs these can not be campared. That Cali weed got you out of touch.
The difference is this new generation has so many flash in the pan rappers . Let’s be honest most of them won’t be around long enough in music. As I see it if it is helping some of these artists get out of poverty and bad circumstances and provide for their families then who am I too judge . I hate the crap personally but it’s giving a younger person a better quality of life hen awesome. With that being said some of the kidse striaght trash and have no talent . I can rap better then them and am not a rapper at all. It seems every kid seems to be doing that . Just making nonsense and not putting no heart or effort into it. Which is bothersome especially when they don’t pay no homage.it goes back to this new generation and lack of respect they have also do your thing make your money provide a better quality of life for you and your family but respect the culture and pay homage to those before you. Finally anybody can make rap and be rapper which is what we are seeing more of nowadays but to make hip-hop and be a MC takes heart and talent. So really hip-hop will ever die rap on the other hand will
JUSTIN HUNT….. Ya’ll need to stop with the age complex BS with this culture, man. Please, start being the ones to dead that misguided notion and break from that. It’s not, nor has it ever been, about somebodys age. This whole thing has been about the quality of the music! THE QUALITY OF THE MUSIC!! Your headline in this report even mentions “Mumble Rap”, which refers to a quality or style of the music. Has anybody complained the same way about Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, ASAP Rocky, Big KRIT, G Easy or Chance?! Absolutely not! These dudes I just mentioned are this generations class of spitters that carry the torch of being an Emcee in this culture…. well! Souljaboy and Lil Yachty, with his classically epic fail of the decade- no bars ass – couldnt freestyle to save his life. Dude cannot spit, simple as that!!! Mumblin’ singin’ ass chant rappin’ is what him and Uzi Vert does. I will say this though about Lil Uzi Vert: his song Banned From TV is winnin’ to me. But as a overall artist?! Dude is an absolute let down. But in saying that, everything has its place. What some don’t like others probably will. But to real hip-hop heads it’s this: Their music has absolutely ZERO substance, ZERO intellect and is so simplistic that the average radio listener will usually catch on with little ease and even little thought of their intellegence being chipped away because of its watered down ignorance. Its an age old formula music execs have been using for decades in the industry and have made one hit wonders out of. This is exactly why hip-hop purist, both young and old, complain about this shit…. cause the music these niggas are putting out is so ignorant and void of any REAL creative thought process, that it pisses the real hip-hop heads off…. both young and older, sir, because it doesn’t represent what the essence of what hip-hop truly is when you get on that microphone. And hey, let’s not forget Ab-Soul’s twitter slugs he shot off just recently about this same exact shit. This tug of war about the quality of music within hip-hop has been going on since the shit damn near began, and had nothing, absolutely NOTH-ING to do with age. Fans of the Native Tongues had a problem with Fans of Gansta Rap. Strictly East Coast fans had a problem with West Coast fans. At one point for awhile everybody had a problem with down south rappers, mainly cause they weren’t hip-hop enough. Underground Hip-Hop and Boom Bap artists and a problem with commercial radio hip-hop artists. That’s the type of beef that had KRS-One famously throw PM Dawns corny fat ass off the stage (God rest his soul, no disrespect intended). Ya’ll even covered that this summer. And ya’ll know what’s up! Or ya’ll SHOULD know what’s up. So why aren’t ya’ll putting these issues ya’ll reporting on in its REAL, HONEST, and ACCURATE context?! I have been down with HipHopDX for 10 plus years, and I know damn well ya’ll have no business acting like ya’ll are brand new to this culture. How do you acknowledge the present but can’t support the past that made the present possible? See… Karma is real bitch that carry the motto of “what comes around goes around.” And for these “fuck dem old niggas” rappers out now?! I feel for yall. There will come a time when you will get old, played out and irrelevant. The energy you put out will come back to you ten fold. You get what you give. Keep in mind, the average rap fan have very short attention spans and short term memory. Hip-Hop heads don’t.
All of us true Hip Hop fans need to go back and listen to Gang Starr’s Mass Appeal and De La Soul’s Breakadawn they tell us everything that’s happen rite now in those songs. Young dudes catch that fast train to the so called top and when they get dropped off it’s in a bottomless pit, nobody will remember these mumble dudes when it’s all done AT ALL!!!. So please just let this shit music die because it will and let’s support the real Hip Hop artist that actually put some thought into what they put out for your mental to absorb. It’s real Hip Hop music out here and we all know where to find it….TURN OFF THE MUTHAFUCKIN RADIO ICE CUBE TOLD US THAT SHIT YEARS AGO AND DEAD PREZ….I bet you start listening to the old heads now.
Rule nombre uno (Number one) When you start a intro
Never try to rhyme if you don’t know how to flow
Cuz like a showtime crowd at the Apollo
If you doo doo they’ll boo you and say you gotta go
Number two I mean this sincerely
Even if you scream nigga try to speak clearly
With clarity take it from yo majesty
If it sounds like you mumbling then don’t shout a motherfucking thing
I agree with most of the comments here but migos, ice-t, mase and das efx shouldn’t be included in the trash list. the diff between them and the rest is that they created their own style while the rest of the mentioned trash is just copying without any own efforts. its not their fault that everyone’s bandwaggoning. another thing that i would like to add, which was often mentioned, is the difference between hiphop and rap. imo rap is (nowadays) the purer version of the music genre while hiphop mostly gets washed out by pop influences which makes it rather hippop than hiphop. dont get me wrong, real hiphop heads are aware of the difference but most listeres are not. we know that real hiphop is something like ATCQ etc. but they believe the crap they hear in the radio would be it. i believe that in a way we have lost the hiphop war (to the church niggas) and we should unite back by using rather the word rap for our kind of music. just to avoid the confusion over the namecalling cuz i believe its wasted time. these church copy cats always jumps on everything that they believe to be popular cuz they trying to make money with everything, even with trash. thats also the reason for the hate campain against the founders of our culture including all old school heads. they want to take it over and if they cant they will destroy everything. these ppl are greedy as fuck. if u go back in history they have done same to a lot of other music genres, it goes back as far as classic music some centuries ago. first they want to stop it from outside and if they cant they are undermining it from inside untill they have reached their goal. thats the problem
I’ve been following hiphopdx.com for almost 10 years now, and you’ve been excellent the whole time. You guys stay relevant, you keep the news current, your journalists’ perspectives are always nuanced and thoughtful, and you showcase a diverse array of artists. I hope yall make it another 10, or more. Thanks for adding on to the culture.
Its mumbling because you dont know the lingo? I swear ny niggas act like white ppl with that shit
There’s definitely a generational disconnect. Murs also dropped a quote that didn’t make the final cut. He advises Yachty and them to embrace the term. I thought this was profound:
“I say Desiigner, Dolph, Yachty—be proud of it. Keep making your money. Keep pushing your movement. Look to your elders—the ones that listen to you and show you respect—look to them and listen to them because it’s gonna save you a lot of pain, but no teenager, no young person is ever going to listen to everything. You’ve gotta experience it for yourself.” – Murs
Murs is irrelevant
What does him being relevant or not have to do with his point being valid ?? Just because someone isn’t following a trend and isn’t in the news as much as someone else doesn’t mean what he isn’t saying shouldn’t be valued. If that was the case then I don’t even know why you out of all people should be telling us who’s relevant or not lol.
If you’re not relevant than your opinion is irrelevant
Did you even read the comment. Use your head.
are you relevant tho?
It’s not about lingo, it’s about a fundamental part of hip hop: being able to understand what the person is talkin bout lol. That’s like playing Basketball without having to score. Once again, the main issue isn’t having a different style, it’s forcing everybody else to try copy it to get exposure. Das-efx had niggas confused too, but everybody didn’t have to sound like them to get on either. If that’s the popping sound in southern regions, cool, keep that shit down there, don’t punish other areas for not doing it. There’s no reason Desiigner should be sounding like that, and being rewarded for it, that kills the whole game and the point of being original and different…
The problem with Mumble Rap is anyone can do it. It’s catchy and fun at times but it’s mainly for people who can’t speak well. Let those artist get on interviews and watch how retarded they sound.
Sht is really getting redundant honestly. I’m tired of the trap beats, the lazyily used autotune, with the migos-esque flow. Where them bars at. Where’s the substance. That’s why I respect cats like Kendrick. He’s commercial but he’s still keeping hip hop authentic/innovative. Even Kanye. This trap shit is so easy even Justin bieber can do it. I can’t wait until this shit dies. Hip hop is in shambles atm. Yall let it happen promoting this bullsht.
Times have changed really. Music is like chewing gum.throwaway, hot today gone tomorrow that’s y musicians don’t care about the art anymore, just being the top of the moment n trending style of the week. The world has just changed. Real good music is mostly niche/underground now…so u have to look for it
Why is it hating when you critically dissect and critique music Justin?
Nothing wrong with critical dissection. But to say something is wack in a disrespectful way because it’s not in the same vein as something decades prior is hating.
No it’s not…if it’s actually wack. I’m tired of journalists and bloggers trying to legitimize this bullshit.
Mumble Rap is like scatting, like a style of jazz tongues and rhythms tied closer to african music. Is the style wack because they don’t speak the King’s English?
why does it always have to come to race with people like you
How are you gonna compare mumble “rap” to scatting? Scatting is something that requires talent and skill, it’s inventive, derives from the jazz era and is almost like beatboxing. Mumble “rap” is bullshit, not only is it difficult to make out what these CLOWNS are saying, the very little that can be understood from it is utterly meaningless! Fuck this generation, they have no respect for the art, the culture, no understanding of music, no talent, no knowledge of basic songwriting, no credibility, no understanding of punchlines, metaphors, syllables, no basic rhyming skills, there is nothing about them that personifies or defines hip-hop. They have no respect for those who laid a foundation and paved the way, those who made it possible for hip-hop to transform into its own culture & lifestyle. These fuckin clowns don’t even have what it takes to be around for 10 minutes much less a couple of years. Why do they even bother to get into the music biz if they have no talent or knowledge about the genre they’re trying to venture into? These CLOWNS are retarded and don’t stop think & realize that the “old” guys they’re antagonizing have been around for decades and that’s because they have TALENT, for one thing. These “old” dudes are legends, pioneers & emissaries of the culture, they care about good quality music and they posess the prowess to create it and stand the test of time. A lot of vets still make music, these new morons last even less than the stupid harlem shake trend from a few years back. The disdain for this generation stems from their lack of talent and respect and knowledge for the music itself. These new idiots ALL SOUND THE SAME and have no real content in that bullshit they make, they sound like they can’t even count to 5, for fuck’s sake! This generation has desecrated hip-hop to the point where they’re wearing dresses now! They’ve made a mockery of the culture & care more about being popular than the music. These new clowns are stupid. Look at soulja boy, he’s a fuckin moron who’s already faded into obscurity & has to lie about multimillion dollar deals just to stay relevant. These new morons dumbed a generation to such a degree that they call you a “hater” just because you don’t like this new wave of garbage being shoved down our throats & can’t even think of logical reasons for defending it.
“Mumble rap is like scatting” …and anything you said after that, I didn’t take serious.
Mumblingis the least of the problem. There is no art it. Dissect the lyrics and many of these “mumble” rappers make Soulja Boy look like Nas. Then add on the content, basic lyrics, with basic stereotypical rap content equals trash and self destruction. I better not see anyone who ever claims “Black Lives Matter” co-signing this new form of Blackface…. #TheRegression
This is my issue with all of this. When someone like Pete Rock speaks out against something he has a massive influence on where it is today, people want to throw his age into the equation. And that ladies and gentlemen is an issue with Hip Hop adn Black culture. We don’t think we need to show a single bit of respect to those before us. So case in point, when i was growing up, if my Mom came at me for something I thought was cool and my response was “you hating you old head”…then my Mom would have fucked me up…rightfully so.
What Pete Rock is doing is what all artists did to try and PRESERVE the culture. Now any and everyone can come into the game that at one time required some kind of effort….and now these same kids get to dictate the direction of the culture? No putting in dues, no respecting the culture or the pioneers….just telling everyone their old and we are all supposed to just accept it because they are in the game.
GTFOH. Art is NOT art if ANYONE can do it. There is a reason why people praise a Nas or an Eminem, because what they do is not easy duplicate, the same way a nigga with some paintbrushes cannot just make a Picasso. But the more and more we allow these kids to shit on the culture and the history, the more and more Hip Hop will falter. That is fact. We are going to fuck around nd out pioneers are going to be pushed out and away and when the culture looks like bullshit, then what? This is the sale of BET all over again……think about it.
Stop trying to make this a new generation vs old generation fuck that it’s about real lyricists vs dude who don’t know how to rap. They’re are plenty of “new” rappers who are real lyricists, I.E. Kendrick , Cole, Logic, Futuristic, etc those dudes are keeping hip hop alive. Yatchy uzi Kodak are destroying our culture
This Justin Hunte dude is the CORNIEST mf i’ve ever heard speak as some type of authority on hip hop, and he’s got a bald face. Black men need to have facial hair to be taken seriously.
And I bet he’s got a white woman.
Biggest issue in rap and hiphop is the system keeps us hating on each other, young cat vs old head, dark skin vs light skin. The issues is not us it’s who’s controlling the system and the industry, that def aint us. People like lyor Cohen who’s pushing people like fetty wap
Young thug, Migos, Riff Raff, we lost control of hiphop and we cant get it back it’s been polluted. A lot of people complain about the
garbage music thats out but when someone dopes drop you will just say he’s dope and not support him by buying his or her record. Another big issue is it’s a new generation we gotta get over it, Same way when our parents and elders where bumping Al green, temptations, etc and they look at us crazy for bumping Bone thugs, tupac, nas, biggie, master p, outkast.
Honestly we complain about what we don’t like more than we praise what we do like if I don’t like something I’m not giving it my energy. It would be like if you had a fine, smart girl on your arm and there was another girl you hated, and you were constantly complaining about the girl you didn’t like, and your girl was trying to talk to you and your like wait baby wait I’m trying to tell this girl why I don’t like her.
I recall Ghostface rappin on Fishscale about D4L “how did these niggas get past me?”… aaaaaaand D4L isn’t worth remembering and that was like 10yrs ago. Every generation of hip hop has it’s “da fuck is this shit?!” artists. They come, look ridiculous, make their scene, act like they’re some kind of innovative breath of fresh air, hip hop revival and in 6 months to a year people forget about them and move on to the next wack ass rappers… circle of life. As long as the real artists keep droppin music (check the new stuff from De La, RZA in Banks & Steelz, Atmosphere, Game and Phonte, Snoop etc) then who the hell cares what these young internet rappers are doin? No one will be speaking their names in 1-2 years time unless it’s “yo, remember _________________… man their shit was wack”
Justin hunte represents everything wrong with music journalism in the modern era. You can’t possibly be a reputable journalist if you can’t relate to and defend the most popular music around at any given moment, now can you? So in comes the sucking up and excuses. You can try to invoke any past musical movement you want but when your lyrics are of lower quality than Does Your Chain Hang Low and This Is Why I’m Hot you need to reevaluate your choice of profession. Stop pretending and realize the tide is turning. Here in Detroit the “throwback” hip-hop station shot to number 1 in the ratings after just two months on air. The public is starting to come to the same conclusion as the commenters here. That garbage is getting played out. Stop pretending and give it a real evaluation. I know you don’t really like it, if you did you wouldn’t need to reach so far to defend it.
And now Soulja Boy is less relevant than Ice-T. Go figure. I guess quality out lives one-hit wonders
Soulja boy is worth 23 million though. Way more than all of these other rappers
If he was worth that much he wouldn’t be doing love and hip hop. I seen that episode where they showed his
apartment, not house but apartment it look like some section 8 housing .
I get your point and I like Ice T over souljah boy, but let’s be honest Ice T wasn’t good either. Plus Ice T is an example of a
old school dude just hating, that is a little different from being critical.
What the fuck are you talking about? Songs like 6 In The Morning or Colors are still dope as fuck. I still get goosebumps when that baseline on Colors drops.
“I am a nightmare walkin/psychopath talkin/ king of my jungle just a gangsta stalkin….”
The West Coast wouldn’t be where it is today without rappers like Too Short and Ice T.
Those were dope songs but still Ice T wasn’t that good of a rapper period. The west coast would have been fine without Ice T. In all honesty MC Hammer was a better rapper than Ice T, that’s not me trying to be funny or joking but seriously .
The technology makes it easy for a regular dude to start singing on a fruity loops beat with auto tune with no years of practice to make song, then social media is all about popularity rather than quality art. This makes for the combination of what you see today in the music business. I with Justin and Murs Maco ect thinking that the last generation did the same of rebellion with the craft. What Pete Rock and Premo did after Bambaataa Flash and Mele mel was elevate the skill. So no Murs these can not be campared. That Cali weed got you out of touch.
THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS TO NOT LISTEN AND SUPPORT THAT SHIT!
IF NO ONE BUYS IT THEY WILL STOP MAKING IT! PLAIN AND SIMPLE
De La Soul outsold Young Thug though. Independently at that
if you wanna bitch and moan about mumble rap, complain to Ma$e.
Mase had a lisp and his voice was soft, but he’s still more coherent than these trap niggas.
You’re a fucking Retard who obviously has never heard a Mase song
Mase was the shit… Welcome Back was kinda lame because he was being all wholesome but his first 2 joints are 90s Hip-Hop gold haha
The difference is this new generation has so many flash in the pan rappers . Let’s be honest most of them won’t be around long enough in music. As I see it if it is helping some of these artists get out of poverty and bad circumstances and provide for their families then who am I too judge . I hate the crap personally but it’s giving a younger person a better quality of life hen awesome. With that being said some of the kidse striaght trash and have no talent . I can rap better then them and am not a rapper at all. It seems every kid seems to be doing that . Just making nonsense and not putting no heart or effort into it. Which is bothersome especially when they don’t pay no homage.it goes back to this new generation and lack of respect they have also do your thing make your money provide a better quality of life for you and your family but respect the culture and pay homage to those before you. Finally anybody can make rap and be rapper which is what we are seeing more of nowadays but to make hip-hop and be a MC takes heart and talent. So really hip-hop will ever die rap on the other hand will
Typing on my cell at work .hence the mistakes … Long live hip-hop
We should really be thanking these no talent rappers who disrespect the culture… their ignorance will give KRS-One reason to keep making albums lol
JUSTIN HUNT….. Ya’ll need to stop with the age complex BS with this culture, man. Please, start being the ones to dead that misguided notion and break from that. It’s not, nor has it ever been, about somebodys age. This whole thing has been about the quality of the music! THE QUALITY OF THE MUSIC!! Your headline in this report even mentions “Mumble Rap”, which refers to a quality or style of the music. Has anybody complained the same way about Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, ASAP Rocky, Big KRIT, G Easy or Chance?! Absolutely not! These dudes I just mentioned are this generations class of spitters that carry the torch of being an Emcee in this culture…. well! Souljaboy and Lil Yachty, with his classically epic fail of the decade- no bars ass – couldnt freestyle to save his life. Dude cannot spit, simple as that!!! Mumblin’ singin’ ass chant rappin’ is what him and Uzi Vert does. I will say this though about Lil Uzi Vert: his song Banned From TV is winnin’ to me. But as a overall artist?! Dude is an absolute let down. But in saying that, everything has its place. What some don’t like others probably will. But to real hip-hop heads it’s this: Their music has absolutely ZERO substance, ZERO intellect and is so simplistic that the average radio listener will usually catch on with little ease and even little thought of their intellegence being chipped away because of its watered down ignorance. Its an age old formula music execs have been using for decades in the industry and have made one hit wonders out of. This is exactly why hip-hop purist, both young and old, complain about this shit…. cause the music these niggas are putting out is so ignorant and void of any REAL creative thought process, that it pisses the real hip-hop heads off…. both young and older, sir, because it doesn’t represent what the essence of what hip-hop truly is when you get on that microphone. And hey, let’s not forget Ab-Soul’s twitter slugs he shot off just recently about this same exact shit. This tug of war about the quality of music within hip-hop has been going on since the shit damn near began, and had nothing, absolutely NOTH-ING to do with age. Fans of the Native Tongues had a problem with Fans of Gansta Rap. Strictly East Coast fans had a problem with West Coast fans. At one point for awhile everybody had a problem with down south rappers, mainly cause they weren’t hip-hop enough. Underground Hip-Hop and Boom Bap artists and a problem with commercial radio hip-hop artists. That’s the type of beef that had KRS-One famously throw PM Dawns corny fat ass off the stage (God rest his soul, no disrespect intended). Ya’ll even covered that this summer. And ya’ll know what’s up! Or ya’ll SHOULD know what’s up. So why aren’t ya’ll putting these issues ya’ll reporting on in its REAL, HONEST, and ACCURATE context?! I have been down with HipHopDX for 10 plus years, and I know damn well ya’ll have no business acting like ya’ll are brand new to this culture. How do you acknowledge the present but can’t support the past that made the present possible? See… Karma is real bitch that carry the motto of “what comes around goes around.” And for these “fuck dem old niggas” rappers out now?! I feel for yall. There will come a time when you will get old, played out and irrelevant. The energy you put out will come back to you ten fold. You get what you give. Keep in mind, the average rap fan have very short attention spans and short term memory. Hip-Hop heads don’t.
Bruv, AGEEEE has alot to do with it. REGARDLESS of what YOU think!
All of us true Hip Hop fans need to go back and listen to Gang Starr’s Mass Appeal and De La Soul’s Breakadawn they tell us everything that’s happen rite now in those songs. Young dudes catch that fast train to the so called top and when they get dropped off it’s in a bottomless pit, nobody will remember these mumble dudes when it’s all done AT ALL!!!. So please just let this shit music die because it will and let’s support the real Hip Hop artist that actually put some thought into what they put out for your mental to absorb. It’s real Hip Hop music out here and we all know where to find it….TURN OFF THE MUTHAFUCKIN RADIO ICE CUBE TOLD US THAT SHIT YEARS AGO AND DEAD PREZ….I bet you start listening to the old heads now.
My playlist in recent year has been Pac, Cube, NWA, old Dr Dre shit, De La Soul, K Dot and J Cole ALL DAY.
Fuck Future and Gucci and their clones.
This dude needs to STFU!
Its just a fad thing like when snap music was hot and everyone said they couldnt stand it. It will phase out then people will want it back again.
Rule nombre uno (Number one) When you start a intro
Never try to rhyme if you don’t know how to flow
Cuz like a showtime crowd at the Apollo
If you doo doo they’ll boo you and say you gotta go
Number two I mean this sincerely
Even if you scream nigga try to speak clearly
With clarity take it from yo majesty
If it sounds like you mumbling then don’t shout a motherfucking thing
I agree with most of the comments here but migos, ice-t, mase and das efx shouldn’t be included in the trash list. the diff between them and the rest is that they created their own style while the rest of the mentioned trash is just copying without any own efforts. its not their fault that everyone’s bandwaggoning. another thing that i would like to add, which was often mentioned, is the difference between hiphop and rap. imo rap is (nowadays) the purer version of the music genre while hiphop mostly gets washed out by pop influences which makes it rather hippop than hiphop. dont get me wrong, real hiphop heads are aware of the difference but most listeres are not. we know that real hiphop is something like ATCQ etc. but they believe the crap they hear in the radio would be it. i believe that in a way we have lost the hiphop war (to the church niggas) and we should unite back by using rather the word rap for our kind of music. just to avoid the confusion over the namecalling cuz i believe its wasted time. these church copy cats always jumps on everything that they believe to be popular cuz they trying to make money with everything, even with trash. thats also the reason for the hate campain against the founders of our culture including all old school heads. they want to take it over and if they cant they will destroy everything. these ppl are greedy as fuck. if u go back in history they have done same to a lot of other music genres, it goes back as far as classic music some centuries ago. first they want to stop it from outside and if they cant they are undermining it from inside untill they have reached their goal. thats the problem
This is why we need dudes like J STAY FLY to blow up
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