Westside Gunn’s ‘And Then You Pray For Me’ Takes Bold Pivots From The Griselda Sound

    Die-hard fans of Griselda know what to expect when they hit play on any album executive-produced by the imprint’s abbot, Westside Gunn: tight production curation, great features, excellent sequencing, and—as of late—scene-stealing performances by Stove God Cooks. However, one thing they generally haven’t been able to expect is the unexpected.

    This isn’t to discredit the Flygod, nor comment on his growth or progression as an artist. As a curator, his projects have acted as springboards for talents like Estee Nack, Rome Streetz, and producers like Conductor Williams—not to mention visual artists like Isaac Pelayo. Yet, even while diversifying and playing with his overall sound on projects leading up to his latest LP, And Then You Pray For Me, he’s primarily remained within a particular sonic wheelhouse.

    Pray For Paris—the precursor for this project—was his most inviting release to date, an easy entry point for new listeners. In the months leading up to And Then You Pray For Me, we saw Gunn traveling the world, living his best life (for a great recap, listen to Westside Pootie’s interlude at the end of “JD Wrist”). By all accounts, based on the snippets, we were in for something special.

    His highly anticipated new release, which sits at a relatively hefty 21 tracks, did deliver many things we expected, like an AA Rashid intro, an interlude from his daughter berating our wealth, a poem from the always-dope Keisha Plum, hell, even a wrestling sample. As a great nod back to PFP, Cartier A. Williams appears again with a tap dancing interlude produced by Mr. Green (a producer we haven’t seen Gunn work with in years).

    But he also delivered something else: trap beats. Like, a lot of them. Where 10’s “Flygod JR” saw him metaphorically dipping his toes in a new direction, this LP sees him take a swan dive and swim across the lake. With production handled by the likes of “Sicko Mode” producer Tay Keith and little-known producer Miguel da Plug (who handled a few too many tracks), among others, Gunn spends more than half the album on what may feel like a blindsiding side quest for longtime fans.

    This, of course, isn’t something he didn’t foresee ruffling feathers; in a clip shared via Instagram, he predicted blow-back from core fans.

    “You’re going to have the core underground fans that only listen to boom bap who hate because they’re going to say, ‘This nigga changed,'” he noted.

    The resulting experimentation is a mixed bag that relies on the listener’s ability to go with the flow. Some of the risks, of course, pay off more than others. The Tay Keith/Griselda collaboration, “Kostas” (featuring Benny and Conway), is the best of the bunch and frankly an LP standout. Conway, in particular, who was still under anesthesia post-surgery for his fractured right tibia and dislocated kneecap, went crazy with his extended verse.

    Other winners include “Mr Everything,” which sees him trade bars with Jeezy, and the Miguel da Plug-produced “Ultra GriZelda, featuring a standout guest verse from Denzel Curry.

    Still, for those on the fence, songs like the sonically generic “LL BOOL GUNN,” which sees WSG adapting his bars and aesthetic to a more formulaic flow, may not change minds. If you compare this to his EST GEE collaboration “Steve and Jony,” produced by Tay Keith & Deats, he sounds more relaxed.

    But for the real ones, the benevolent Flygod sticks to the tried and true for the other half of the LP’s tracks and delivers some incredible joints. “Mamas PrimeTime” kicks the album off with a bang, with huge guest verses from JID and Conway that don’t disappoint. Then there’s the soulful “Kitchen Lights,” produced by DJ Benoit, which is gorgeous—the audio equivalent of angel tears. Arguably one of the finest Stove God verses in his catalog, as he shines his coke-rap crown with lines like, “You talkin’ to a nigga that counted a half a million cash/With cocaine under his fingernails.”

    Elsewhere, Gunn eats the jazzy “Flygod 2x,” a beat that fit him like a glove. Also, unsurprisingly, everything Conductor Williams touches is excellent. “The Revenge of Flips Leg” with Rome Streetz is probably the better of the producer’s two contributions.

    “House of GLORY” is another shiny gem, with Gunn and Stovie sliding over possibly the best RZA beat we’ve heard in over a decade and some change.

    It does feel like Gunn melded two juxtaposed projects together. One providing elite-level material polished with the well-defined Griselda aesthetic he’s spent his career carefully defining. The other traverses a sound that he has yet to master to the same degree.

    Conversely, there is something admirable about leaning into it rather than going small. And as his “big ass bracelet” suggests, going big is in his DNA. In Gunn’s words, the album is for him; he’s evolving, exploring and making the music he feels like making in the moment, which isn’t a faux pas. If anything, keeping artists contained in boxes and chastising them for exploring outside of it is a “you problem” for the audience.

    Still, there is another meta verse where this project could have been split into two distinct parts–going all in with what worked best production-wise and diversifying the credits to help make this dominant brand break as palatable as possible. Ultimately, amid very high highs, it heavy-handedly embraces a sound that his most devout fans often turn to Griselda to avoid. Whether the initial shell shock wears off for those listeners remains to be seen.

    17 thoughts on “Westside Gunn’s ‘And Then You Pray For Me’ Takes Bold Pivots From The Griselda Sound

    1. I swear, even though I tried, I couldn’t bring myself to listen to any of his recent albums. I start playing one, the beat selection is decent, his voice is what it is, and then suddenly, “DOT DOT BRRRRR RATATATA DOT DOT.” I think to myself, STFU I want to listen to your album, “DOT DOT BRRRRR RATATATA DOT DOT.” and I turn it off. I just can’t handle those ad-libs, I simply can’t. It’s like Nas recorded an album and then added farting and burping sound effects to the whole thing.

      1. I get it, but it should be common knowledge after a few years of Griselda. These adlibs is what you get from them, especially Westside. Anyway..I got used to that stuff but not everyone will.

    2. I wanted to like it thus I listened to this album a couple of times, but this record represents everything I do not like in hip hop. So nope

    3. A bit too bold in my opinion. I feel like the trap tracks are pretty forgettable and mediocre. There are a few highlights though and “Kitchen Lights” is just epic. Westside is always good for these kind of tracks.
      Overall too long and too forgettable. 2-3 of 5. Haven’t fully decided yet.

    4. A bit too bold in my opinion. I feel like the trap tracks are pretty forgettable and mediocre. There are a few highlights though and “Kitchen Lights” is just epic. Westside is always good for these kind of tracks.
      Overall too long and too forgettable. 2-3 of 5. Haven’t fully decided yet.

    5. If only would anyone put AI to a good use by letting it clean all the griselda albums from such adlibs…

    6. Some of trap beats go hard, and the traditional Griselda sounds go hard too. Overall, this album is a miss for me. West flow amd energy doesn’t match alot of the production. Sounds like cheap Young Dolph impersonations

    7. Bold is not the word I would use to describe this. I would say disappointing, only 3 track I can listen to and they are not even on repeat more like whenever. Carry on!!!

    8. Honest assessment. Westside Gunn simply ran out of lyrics and beats. He’s made a crazy amount of music over these past few years. It is all redundant music now. His sound doesn’t age well.

    9. Westside Gunn is just not a good rapper. He was a meme a few years ago, and he was interesting for a minute, but that’s it. His ad-libs are unbearable, his voice is ear-shattering, his beats are outdated. Gunn wants to define his music as a high-fashion product, but that’s very far from hip-hop. Only 13 year olds, who have no any sense of values, like artists because of their outfit.

    10. Man the critics came out in the comments, I don’t think you guys would know quality rap is and what the culture is about. Some of you bozos gave 2s that’s preposterous. I swear you chumps didn’t listen to the whole thing cover to cover. If you don’t like this type of rap your opinion is irrelevant. This is for the supporters. The album is amazing cover to cover. The only song I don’t like is the Chloe one because I don’t like porn rap. This album has excellent beats different flows. Some gems are mamas primetime, kostas, suicide in selfridges, flygod 2x, kitchen lights, Babylon bis, jalen rose. Those are all certified bangers if you like this sub genre of rap.

    11. How dare you rate this album with NAS Magic 3 scoring? The fuck is wrong with you guys. Yall have shit for ears. This album is 2.5 at best and no where near the level of magic 3. For shame!

    12. Please review that new tonite show album by DJ Fresh from The Bay,came out last friday and seen nobody review it yet

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