Noted Hip Hop impresarios 9th Wonder and Young Guru now serve as the latest artists to speak in-depth on Kendrick Lamar’s now notorious verse on Big Sean’s “Control,” and the pair did so during a listening session for Rapsody’s She Got Game. As part of their lively discussion, which included comparisons to famed skateboarder Tony Hawk and Young Guru predicting an exact schedule of when certain artists would release their response to “Control,” both artists praised Kendrick’s lyrical prowess on the record.
During the light debate, Young Guru gave the exact reason why he believes Kendrick’s verse is “chess perfect.” According to the producer, not only did the TDE spitter target emcees on every coast, but he did so without any bells and whistles.
“This is why it’s so chess perfect,” Young Guru revealed. “Number one, I’m not going at your coast. I’m telling you that I’m the king of Hip Hop no matter where you’re from. I got both of them niggas in my one hand juggling. I’m the king of the West and the East. I’m the king of Hip Hop, period. Number two, I came at y’all niggas on the shit that y’all complaining hasn’t been in the game. This is lyrical. This ain’t about who got the best beats. This ain’t about who got Future on the hook…What he shot at you was lyrics…Now you got somebody that’s sold records and is relevant in the culture to change the zeitgeist of the field of what’s going on right now.”
9th Wonder shared Young Guru’s sentiment as he questioned how an emcee can possibly go about topping Kendrick’s verse given the fact that any arguments about the rapper not being able to rap or sell records aren’t valid.
“What are you gonna say? I’m just tryna—Even if you sit down and write your best rhymes. What is this rhyme gonna contain,” 9th Wonder questioned. “What’s gonna be in it? You can’t say he can’t rap. You can’t say he’s not selling records. Those are two biggest arguments like you said. He got the OG’s beside him…His boss is Dre. His big homie’s Kurupt. His team is with it. What can you say? And then on top of that you can’t say anything about cars or jewelry because he doesn’t care about that.”
Released earlier in the week, “Control” has gone on to set off a firestorm of social media commentary and lyrical responses due to Kendrick’s verse on the record. On his verse, the good kid, m.A.A.d city rapper goes on to proclaim himself “king of New York” and calls out the likes of Pusha T, Tyler, The Creator, J. Cole, and Drake as he raps, “I got love for you all but I’m tryna murder you niggas.”
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every fucking article on this website is someone talking about or tweeting about or responding to kendricks verse who fucking cares what any of these wack ninjas think
Obviously the hiphop world cares.
Completely agree. People might write better bars for this beat (they should considering they had the advantage of hearing his first). But it’s not like you can say Kendrick sucks. That’s just not at all valid. He doesn’t have bad albums and mixtapes, everyone who responds has at least 1 album or mixtape worse than whatever is the worst album/mixtape in his catalouge.
Moreover, his name is attached to whatever else someone else does. K. Dot wins….and somewhere Joe Budden and Styles P are still arguing on Twitter.
I agree but that’s the thing his verse has already been topped by Joell because damn listen he did everything right so right now Joell but muthafucka ain’t going to agree cause he is the hottest mc in the game but i do give it to Kendrick He did do his thang
he wants topped by joell for various reasons. first joell took it personal, which shows his lack of understand of what kendrick meant and joell is #2 no matter what he does he is #2, also by referencing dr dre he loses if kendrick wants to reply, cause dre aint backin joell he is backing kendrick. but joell has great lyrical skills
@DEEZ LEARN TO SPEAK CORRECTLY B4 YOU SAY SHIT BOUT ORTIZ.. FUCK BOY
9th is right, they can’t say shit but up their damn bars and call it a day…I love Kendrick for making cats uncomfortable…step up ya bars…and some of these lame ass cats responding for publicity only GTFOH!!!!!Like or dislike the verse all you want, just pen some thought out bars and rid the game of these wack ass lames that don’t even know what an emcee is
this is a GREAT, and valid, discussion right here…. and they sum it up perfectly. Kendrick, as a master of his craft, is taking pride and honor IN that craft, by saying ‘I’m here to be the best, friend or foe, I’m here to win, that’s all. And so should YOU mufuckas.’ He’s saying he raps to be the best rapper. He doesn’t rap to buy a chain or make bitches shake their ass in the club… he’s rapping to his PEERS.
The people that are now releasing “diss” tracks, are not the same people releasing “response” tracks, there’s a huge difference. There shouldn’t BE any diss tracks made, Kendrick didn’t diss anyone!
There SHOULD be response tracks though, like Los’, saying something like “hell ya, I’m with Kendrick, I’m comin for that gold as well and everybody else better bring their A-game”. Not fuckin, “oh you got big ears and you’re drowning in your swimming pool, etc”…. that’s wack MC shit right there. Hatin’
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“You can’t just an internet freestyle to that”, is the beautiful part of it. Props to Guru for explaining this because Kendrick from here on out as established his presence the same way Ice Cube did on “No Vasoline”.
2 clowns with a platform! smh, this is why the game is fucked up! 9th wonder bitch voice “what can they saaaayy” clown shit
shut the fuck up for thinking 9th wonder is a clown, he’s a top 5 producer in the game
yeah it was chess perfect. it didn’t have to be the best verse of all-time, or Kendrick’s best verse, or even the best verse of the song! (Jay Elec ripped it) but the impact of Kendrick’s verse was phenomenal, like him or hate him. he got everybody buzzin, from Cassidy to Lupe
haters just runnin their mouth with nothin to back it up
I’m important like the Pope, I’m a Muslim on pork
I’m Makaveli’s offspring, I’m the king of New York
King of the Coast, one hand, I juggle them both
The juggernaut’s all in your jugular, you take me for jokes
Live in the basement, church pews and funeral faces
Cartier bracelets for my women friends I’m in Vegas
Who the fuck y’all thought it’s supposed to be?
If Phil Jackson came back, still no coachin’ me
I’m uncoachable, I’m unsociable
Fuck y’all clubs, fuck y’all pictures, your Instagram can gobble these nuts
Gobble dick up til you hiccup, my big homie Kurupt
This the same flow that put the rap game on a crutch (Russ x6)
I’ve seen niggas transform like villain Decepticons
Mollies’ll prolly turn these niggas to fucking Lindsay Lohan
A bunch of rich ass white girls looking for parties
Playing with Barbies, wreck the Porsche before you give em the car key
Judgement to the monarchy, blessings to Paul McCartney
You called me a black Beatle, I’m either that or a Marley
(I don’t smoke crack motherfucker I sell it)
I’m dressed in all black, this is not for the fan of Elvis
I’m aimin’ straight for your pelvis, you can’t stomach me
You plan on stumpin’ me? Bitch Ive been jumped before you put a gun on me
Bitch I put one on yours, I’m Sean Connery
James Bonding with none of you niggas, climbing 100 mil in front of me
And I’m gonna get it even if you’re in the way
And if you’re in it, better run for Pete’s sake
I heard the barbershops spittin’ great debates all the time
Bout who’s the best MC? Kendrick, Jigga and Nas
Eminem, Andre 3000, the rest of y’all
New niggas just new niggas, don’t get involved
And I ain’t rockin no more designer shit
White Ts and Nike Cortez, this is red Corvettes anonymous
I’m usually homeboys with the same niggas I’m rhymin’ wit
But this is hip-hop and them niggas should know what time it is
And that goes for Jermaine Cole, Big KRIT, Wale
Pusha T, Meek Millz, A$AP Rocky, Drake
Big Sean, Jay Electron’, Tyler, Mac Miller
I got love for you all but I’m tryna murder you niggas
Tryna make sure your core fans never heard of you niggas
They dont wanna hear not one more noun or verb from you niggas
What is competition? I’m tryna raise the bar high
Who tryna jump and get it? You better off tryna skydive
Out the exit window of 5 G5s with 5 grand
With your granddad as the pilot he drunk as fuck tryna land
With the hand full of arthritis and popping prosthetic leg
Bumpin Pac in the cockpit so the shit that pops in his head
Is an option of violence, someone heard the stewardess said
That your parachute is a latex condom hooked to a dread
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Kendrick just fucked his career.
not a chance. kendrick is nearly untouchable right now.
AND GURU SAID IT PERFECT. WHY AN ARTIST LIKE AN ORTIZ, THATS WAY ABOVE KDOT, COME OUT AND KILL EM.. ORTIZ BEEN THERE DONE THAT. HE KNOW KDOT NOT ON HIS LEVEL. BUT WITH THE RESPONSE HE JUST MADE HIM EQUAL… KENDRICK OPEN UP EYES THAT’S LYRICS JUST CAME BK TO HOP HOP .. SO PUT UR RENT JEWLZ AWAY AND BRING OUT UR BOOK PAD AND START WRITING..
i like all the rappers that responded: cassidy, los, joel ortiz. right now, kendrick lamar is the current lyrical king of rap. Lamar really has no flaws: elite lyricism, wordplay, bars……everything!!!!
i normally would put my money on pusha t vs anyone. but this kid kendrick lamar is something special.
again, excellent debate. this is the time for real mc’s and real lyricist to shine…..open forum.