Logic Says Joe Budden’s ‘Words Make People Wanna Kill Themselves’

    Logic has continually taken the brunt of some of Joe Budden’s harshest criticisms.

    After Bobby Tarantino announced he was retiring from rap after No Pressure was released, the former Everyday Struggle co-host said he should’ve retired “a long time ago.” But, in a rare break from form, Budden issued an apology for his remarks during a recent episode of The Joe Budden Podcast.

    With rap in his rearview, Logic sat down with Hot 97 host Peter Rosenberg who asked if Budden’s “attacks” have been “annoying” and whether he’d seen Budden’s apology. The Maryland native admitted he didn’t catch it because he doesn’t watch Budden’s show and insisted he has nothing against the ex-Slaughterhouse MC.

    “I’ve never watched Joe,” he said. “I just don’t because I don’t want to subject myself to that shit personally. For him to say whatever he’s gonna say, no problem. Whatever. Do your thing. So I didn’t see the apology. I also didn’t see his review of the album or any of this. But yeah, I was talking to [Rob] Markman about this and I literally have no issue with Joe Budden. I never met him, I don’t know him, I’ve never shaked his hand, I’ve never had a conversation with this man.

    But as Logic continued to open up, he did confess Budden’s harsh words did, at one point, have a profound effect on him.

    “This is what he does,” he added. “He doesn’t rap anymore. He talks about the culture, this and that, and that’s cool. I’m not in control of this guy. This dude doesn’t like me for whatever reason. He wants to say I’m not Black enough, I’m not good enough — he’s a person who’s led to part of my depression and some of my darkest spaces.

    “He can take that however he wants. Bro, your words make people want to kill themselves and that’s a real thing. But, to be strong enough to also understand that’s not the end all, be all and other people aren’t the end all, be all … and I’m not up at night like, ‘Oh, I can’t sleep.'”

    Logic Parlays Rap Retirement Into 7-Figure Twitch Deal

    Logic has been open about his struggles with mental health, which is presumably partly why his fanbase can connect with him. His 2017 magnum opus “1-800-273-8255” was named after the number for the National Suicide Prevention hotline and its accompanying video detailed the turmoil teenagers often go through.

    The song peaked at No. 3 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and received nominations for Song of the Year and Best Music Video at the 60th Annual Grammy Awards.

    Logic already has his sights set firmly on the future. After signing a seven-figure deal with Twitch, he told Billboard he plans to do beat giveaways on the popular streaming platform.

    “There’s some people on Twitch that like to do giveaways,” he said. “I wanna make beats for up-and-coming rappers on the spot and give it to them for free and if they take it, don’t charge them and don’t even take publishing.”

    34 thoughts on “Logic Says Joe Budden’s ‘Words Make People Wanna Kill Themselves’

    1. So you never met, don’t understand his opinion, yet you’ve taken his words to heart and are blaming your “mental health issues” on him? FFS…

      1. So what he’s never met him? That attitude is foul bro. Not every doesn’t give af, some ppl are more fragile mentally than others. You’re not like that? Cool but don’t throw ish at someone who is. Joe Budden uses his platform to pass off the hate he has for himself and for his “short of potential” career into ppl actually doing something in the industry. He’s a walking rain cloud

        1. If someone is gonna be fragile at opinionated critique then go work at a desk somewhere. U become a celebrity then u are entered into public arena and are subject to get critiqued waaay more than non famous people. That’s like wanting to be a basketball player and getting depressed cause too many people are booing u from the opposing teams side…choose another profession then.

        2. Budden living rent free in Logic house with his wife and child. How you gonna blame your problems on a stranger as a man?

          1. cause as a stranger he really dont got no right to talk about anyone, but he uses his plat as a form to hate on everyone. whens the last time theres been a budden story where he aint hating on someone.

    2. Logic has no logic. I get when u make music that’s true to u that u may worry about the critique but to go as far as saying the critique from a Man U never met, don’t care about contributed to ur depression sounds stupid. If u truly understand that music is an opinionated arena then u take nothing to heart. Not everyone is gonna like u or ur shit and that’s fine. There’s no artist in the world, ever, who is liked by everyone. Not one.

      1. have motherfuckas u dont know hate on u everyday. im sure when he logs onto ig or twitter or fb hes get hate everyday. some people cant handle it. and i dont even listen to him.

    3. You don’t have know a mfr to have his/ or her words hurt you it’s just like a bullet it doesn’t have your name on it but it will still kill you if it hits vital organs or you bleed out

    4. Yo I don’t fw Logic but at the end of the day the guy is humble and all and seems to be pretty cool, let’s stop calling him a p*ssy and sympathize for what he was going through?

    5. hip hop culture is toxic af and thats all there is too it. Never gona be equality or a change with this shit so deeply embedded in the culture.

    6. It’s funny cause just a few years ago everybody was bullying joe and he was the butt of all the jokes

    7. This is for sympathy…talk about projection. So he takes his own internal issues with lack of self esteem and being unnecessarily self aware /absorbed about not being a black man and throws that out as though other rappers put that much stock into what Joe Burdens says… logic lost already. You stop worshipping hip hop and shit and making it the bane of your existence and you won’t go through the mood swings. It’s too late in the game to treat Rap as your primary culture. Put God first and you wouldn’t give a shit about what Joe Buddens say…and God made you biracial be biracial and stop bitchin

    8. maybe this guy actually got problems. i dont refute what he said. sometimes when u in the spotlight and everyone talk about you, some of it gonna be negative when all he tryna do is just make music to get his word out. im sure people here will hate on him but he aint wrong.

    9. Real shit, Logic could learn from Joe, he literally took the most Ls in hiphop history to still be semi relevant. Been in numerous beefs and got punched on multiple times, been accused of not only domestic violence but also deliberately trying to abort his own baby. Had some of the worst label drama, got his proposal rejected on national tv, been called corny countless times yet…he still made a lane for himself multiple times too. Logic hasn’t had half that shit, just off Twitch alone he’s gd…

    10. For real though, Joe Budden’s music is like therapy. Look in the comments for songs like Pray For Me and you’ll see people say, “This saved my life.” That’s why I want Budden to go back to making music, and put his podcast on hold for a bit.

    11. And he’s running to Rosenberg? Logic is a wimp. He’s too old to always tweak in public with his unaddressed one drop rule traumas…he wanna be a nigga because he’s a rapper. Who doesnt. But he cries about it then cries to the bank. Smh. Money isn’t everything. Black is beautiful dont let society fool yall

    12. The kid made decent music but wasn’t built for the industry, I cant sit around and blame your critics, even if you have mental issues that won’t give you a pass in music, unless you’re Nicki Minaj

    13. All I’m gonna say is, his recent drop reignited my interest in him as an artist. Only after the one before that blew it out

    14. This dude Logic tryna flip script… Promote his album and have people look at Joe a certain way for the remarks he made. I don’t respect it… People on every arena are criticized over their performance. Athletes, Actors, Presidents, everyone!

    15. Didnt this guy make a song about Suicide and used the sucide hot line number as the song title?

    16. So he only wants to hear the good comments? In what world does he live in where everyone loves everything you do and stand for?

      You take the good with the bad and let the haters fuel your progress. Logic wants to experience some real hate? Try being a 6’2 Blackman where everyone is afraid of you and hates your existence and systemic oppression where you have to prove yourself 10 times more than the next.

      GTFOH with that powder puff approach. Budden has the right to express his opinion. FOH go cash your twitch checks and stop trying to drum up sympathy.

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      Very interesting. Well at least he apologized. Right?

    18. Budden is wade AF everyone knows it, he has failed as an artist, failed as a podcaster, now he’s riding the media wave of talking bad about people for shock value for clicks – Budden is a bum

      1. Failed as a podcaster? Don’t know where you got that idea. The fact this article is getting so many views proves the exact opposite.

    19. Kind of feed bad for this Logic guy. I don’t like his music cos’ he just shows a lack of originality. But yeah, he lost his frame. Once you let another man show that he has affected you then you lose. When Rosenberg asked the question he should have just showed that he didn’t give a fuck and shrug it off. Once you go on the defensive or show that your opponents words affected you then you lose. Anyone who has similar mental issues to Logic need to reflect on this cos’ its important. Having this weak type of mind set will fuck things up for you in the real world.

      1. those are prison rules.. you, or someone you know has gotten out of prison or you probably grew up in an urban setting.. people don’t think like that in regular day to day.. that whole “show weakness and things will get worse” stuff is prison rules.. first of all- not everyone thinks being honest about something is “weak” second not everyone is an actual predator.. i’m not dissing you- i’m just pointing this out

    20. Men need to realize something. A real man isn’t not scared to show emotion. We all have emotions. A weak man doesn’t show his emotions because he is too concerned about what people think of him. A true man, is past those insecurities, a real man will cry about something he cares about. A real man will tell the woman he cares for the way he feels. A man who acts hard but won’t open up, well that’s more of a boy trying to learn how to be a man. When I hear hip hop especially today it makes me laugh. Bunch of pretenders, u can rhyme lyrics well and also not act like u sell drugs or pimp out women or disrespect women. It’s more of a rap cop out. Even J Cole as awesome a rapper as he is, falls victim to rhyming about dumb shit that doesn’t progress the music and hurts society. Anyways, does anyone in the world think Joe Budden is a good rapper? One logic song has more lyrics than an entire Joe Budden Album.

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