Allegations of rappers using ghostwriters is commonplace in Hip Hop – everyone from Diddy to Kanye West has been caught red-handed in the act. Now, however, rumors are circulating that Jay Electronica and stic.man of dead prez ghostwrote portions of Nas’ acclaimed 2008 album Untitled.
Responding to a follower on Twitter yesterday, journalist Dream Hampton claimed that Jay Electronica and stic.man ghostwrote large portions of Nas’ controversial LP. Later, Rappers I Know writer FWMJ Tweeted that Electronica told him in a phone conversation that he had written Untitled‘s celebrated opener “Queens Get the Money,” to which Hampton responded that she heard five additional reference tracks.
Stic.man also weighed in on the rumors today through his Facebook. He called Nas “one of the…most prolific original lyricist[s]” in the genre and described their work together as a collaboration rather than ghostwriting. He later Tweeted at Nas, disregarding Hampton’s allegations and saying “your work speaks for itself.”
“As far as the rumors about myself and jay electronika ghost writing for Nas, let me say this. Nas is one of the if not the most prolific original lyricist to EVER do it,” he wrote. “My contributions to his album was a collaboration and an honor and under his direction of what he wanted to convey and say. Haters cant discredit that man’s genuis. Nas is the Don.”
Nas has yet to release a statement on the matter. DX will keep you updated as more information comes to light.
RELATED: Nas Says Jay Electronica Was Originally Supposed To Produce All Of “Untitled”
Hope they wrote the whole album.
nonamefuckface get the fuck out of here…you ain’t no missINFO
Wow, this is insane. I wouldn’t have paid this any mind, if it weren’t for stic.man weighing in on this. He pretty much confirmed it; maybe some might not consider what he described as ghost-writing, but to me, it is what it is: CHEATING. This is truly a sad day in history for true hip-hop fans…
How did Stic.man indirectly confirm the rumors? And “writing” is another term for producing. Jay Electronica did produce for the “Untitled” album. This whole story is taken out of context.
by stating that it was Nas’ vision, and they were just “collaborating”. did you see any tracks featuring stic.man on that album? me neither. and if it was in regards to production, you don’t think stic.man woulda made that blatantly clear? come on, son.
“any tracks featuring stic.man on that album?”
Yeah he produced like 3 songs…
DX is soo late this rumor is dead proven to be not true!!!
NAS never used no ghostwriters blasephamy shame on DX
You can bet he used. God’s Son was written entirely by Eminem.
@ Anonooso
Prove it… No you can’t? What a surprise….
where is your proof that Em wrote Gods Son
That nigga’s an idiot. Hip Hop DX continues to attract dumb asses.
and perpetuate dumb ass bs.
Nas aint had no ghostwritter… I fear you pawns are puppets…
Well, go ahead and prove that Em didn’t write God’s Son.
SMH @ how how mad peeps been tryna pull Nas down for decades now without succeeding. I guess his continued success against all expectations rubs em off like a bad massage.
This for peeps dat got a lil brain n not rumour mongers n haters alike. Stic.man interview on his involvement with the Untitled album: http://www.nodfactor.com/2009/06/23/stic-man-talks-about-producing-for-nas/
Thanks for posting that, bro. I hope to god the writer of this article didn’t already know about this, and just chose to spread some falsehoods that he knew was untrue. I hadn’t heard about any of this until today. Good looking out tho with this link, I shoulda known better…
Actually, I’m gonna say that it’s still wack as fuck that stic.man wrote the hook AND added lyrics, yet didn’t get any credit on there. And when he says he added lyrics and gave him ideas, that to me is ghostwriting. I didn’t read the whole article before I posted that first comment to you. I mean, what do you call it? It says it right there in the article you posted!
That’s not ghostwriting
Yo, dunno how vast u are in hip hop but dat Stic.man situation is very clear, he got co-writing n production credit for d album.
U clearly need to read up on wat ghost writing means.
post up top is response to @Tiger
Stic.Man was given credit for writing on Sly Fox ( i think chorus) and producing We’re Not Alone. Jay Elec produced QGTM. From my understanding a producer doesn’t just make the beat. He will also contribute by suggesting lyrics as well as extra instruments. But Nas has the final say on how he wants the song to come out. If thats considered ghost writing then there are plenty of songs that have multiple ghost writers. Kanye West hired multiple artist to write MBDTF ( i believe its 16 writers for more then one song and about 26 in total). Should we disregard MBDTF as a Kanye West album and suggest he doesnt deserve the credit for that album. Absolutely not. A true musicians goal is to make something that can be admired and by achieving that goal musicians will seek advice from other artist
@ d last anonymous, cosignee ur post. Peeps that shld knw such as hip hop journo’s lik Dream Hampton are clueless abt d game, she doesnt even knw d diff between ghost writin n getting co-writing credits. Check out my link up top to read more abt stic.man’s involvement with d Untitled album.
yo fuck the messenger did you get the message!!! fuck who wrote what part of what songs, yall some small minded little fucks starving for fame!!!!
Dream would catch a bullet for Jay…
nas stans would do the same.
Nas and jay electronica should just respond to this shit and stop being quiet. It’s not making matters easier.
i knew jay electronica was a phony dude did nt write shit for nas
how is being a writer make you a phony? quit looking for stupid shit to get mad at.
Why would Nas need a ghostwriter? Isn’t he the greatest lyricist in Hip Hop? I mean I don’t know much about lyricism (Like y’all pretend to) much that seems to be the general agreement…
@Tigerpawraw; i knw there is alot of miss information in d world esp on d social media n peeps especially haters n dumb ones run with everything they read lik zombies.
Stic.man n J.Elect obviously got co-writing n production credits on d Untitled album, its in d liner notes of d album. So hw dat corresponds to ghost writing large portions of d album is baffling. To think d Dream Hampton gurl actually slandered Nas while tryna defend Jay Z is pathetic. She was asked a question abt why Jay Z bothered abt dollars too much n never drops an album like Nas’s Untitled n her reply was Jay write wat he believes n added that large portions of d Untitled album thus implying dat Nas’s so called substance music is not of his doing.
“Writing”check Jay-z albums or any other rapper-the lyrics “hooks” lines are always a co-lab,,,,
this is just some internet bullshit
WOW AND NAS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST OF ALL TIME… NOT NOW
Not supposed to be, hater. IS
obviously TROLLING
Thats explains why “Untitled” was Nas’ worst album.
This a bullshit story clearly u didn’t read between lines…
All press is press. This a bullshit PR biltz – the so called evidence is JE telling some shitty BLOGGEr he was “ghostwriting for nas”
Its a load of bullshit bro. Have none off it
If Jay Electronica said he “wrote” the song, he meant he wrote the MUSIC for the song, not the lyrics you stupid fuckers. It’s a well known fact that he made the Queens Get The Money beat. People believe what the fuck they want to believe…
And who is this Dream Hampton bitch making up lies?? A Jay-Z fan? It’s 2012..If Nas used ghostwriters he would have been exposed LONGGG AGO. He’s been doing this for like 20 years now. If anything, Jay and Stic where in the studio with him tossing around ideas of concepts and whatnot, which happens all the time.
The same shit happened to Ghostface a couple of years ago when Yayo claimed a dude called Lord Superb wrote the Supreme Clientele album. These people don’t know anything about it, they weren’t there…They just make shit up because they don’t like the person and want to start trouble.
So the man that has been in the studio with rappers such as Jay,Common,AZ,Mega,Scarface,WuTang,DJ Premier,Pete Rock,Pun,Jada,Game,Kanye,Busta,50 and numerous other artists and NOBODY ever said he didn’t write his own shit and now he would take that chance?AFTER building the reputation?From what most guys say,Nas trades ideas easy.He’ll ASK if they like the rhyme and he’ll do it over.They say Raekwon picked his rhyme on Verbal Intercourse.Pun told him to say he’s the best in John Blaze.I find it hard to believe.Not because i’m a stan but because of the fact that his CAREER is built on lyrics.I can see Jay feeding ideas but a diss to 50?I can’t see it.
Noone is claiming he cant write, or that he hasn’t for any extensive period. He, like every other rapper, has undoubtedly had help producing lyrics. I would be shocked if any successful rappers outright denied using a collaborative process at some point. That includes full on trading of verses. Its completely standard, and barely news. The only interesting thing is it’s jay elect helping make more dopeness.
when he says he added lyrics and gave him ideas
+++++++++++++
THAT IS NOT GHOSTWRITING
GHOSTING IS
“STIC, WRITE ME A VERSE”
OR
“NAS, I WROTE THIS SONG FOR YOU”
“SAY WE ARE INSTEAD OF WE BE” AIN’T GHOSTWRITING
I used Premier and Pete Rock as examples because they watched him write.I know they ain’t mc’s.lol
Funny considering Jay Electronica’s rhymes all came from a lost collection of rhyme books that the original owner sued him over. It’s no coincidence that his album has never dropped.
interesting
that sounds so fucking stupid.
google Carter Whitelow…then tell me you have a better explanation
READ THIS. NAS DONT NEED NO GHOSTWRITER!!!
All kinds of rumors started circulating last night about Nas using ghostwriters for his Untitled album. According to Dream Hampton, Untitled was largely written by Stic of dead prez and Jay Electronica.
Earlier today Florida rapper stic.man gave his side of the story. The dead prez member states,
As far as the rumors about myself and jay electronika ghost writing for Nas, let me say this. Nas is one of the if not the most prolific original lyricist to EVER do it. My contributions to his album was a collaboration and an honor and under his direction of what he wanted to convey and say. Haters cant discredit that man’s genuis. Nas is the Don.
Stic.man is credited as a producer on the 2008 albums Sly Fox, Untitled and Were not Alone. This news all comes just one month after the release of Nas eleventh full-length, Life Is Good, out now on Def Jam.
Update: Stic just added some more comments on his Facebook about the issue:
Dream Hampton. I certainly don’t mean to call u a hater. I am just being brought up to speed about your tweet. I heard the “rumors” from other tweets and a few emails from fans. I still haven’t read your tweet. So my statement was just being clear on how I felt about the collab. That was a great opportunity for me to work with one of the most influential emcees to my own personal flow and craft. I can’t speak on what Jay and Nas collab was cause I wasn’t there and that’s there business. Both of those cats are awesome lyricists in my opinion. But for me I was just a white belt that answered the call for a session with a master of the craft. And I assisted where it was requested with ideas, beats and some writing. Not because Nas “needed” me lol…Again I was just honored to get the call. Nas new album Life is Good is lyrically magnificent and his skills have always spoken for them self. So that’s just my view I respect that folks may field different ways about it. Just clarifying my position.
And I referred to it as a “rumor” because obviously no one of the people talking about it were present in the session. So people can sometimes think they know but weren’t present so they speak on what they think as opposed to being there.
Don’t really care. Dr. Dre has had ghostwriters his whole career, but does that make The Chronic or 2001 any lesser? Nope.
did people comprehend what stic man said? I hope so because this bulshitto stop black people for real. always trying o tear each other down. dam
dead prez be heavy in the game more than you know
We as listeners will never know if Nas needed a ghostwriter or not if we never asked him.
FUCK HHDX FOR PUTTING “REPORTEDLY” IN THE TITLE INSTEAD OF “ALLEGEDLY”. JUST BECAUSE SOME FAT, UGLY, RANDOM LESBIAN BLOGGER SAYS IT, THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT TRUE. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PROOF????
dats his ex foo
I dont trust women journalist anyway, especially ones i’ve never heard of. how many of these bitches has been caught in a lie or plagiarism? DX had one of their own. just trying to get their 15 minutes.
N!GGAS FALL 4 ANY MEDIA EXPOSE
A LUNCHROOM SESSION WAS ON THE NET 2 WEEKS AGO WITH NAS & AK
NOW THIS WEEK HE NEED GHOSTWRITERS
LMFAO
Jay ELECTRONICA @JayElectronica
Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that mans pen and legacy is without question.
THIS IS FROM HIS TWITTER HE JUST POSTED 2MIN AGO!!!
NAS IS THE GREATEST LYRICIST OF ALL TIME! AND THE TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE RAPPERS OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!
Of course he’s going to deny it dumbass or else he wouldn’t be a ghostwriter. He gets a royalty check so he probably couldn’t care less
yes because we believe random blog over straight from the horses mouth…
I dont want to hear any Jay Elect news if its not an album.
amen. Its goddamn infuriating to see his face and then read something other than, “his album has arrived”
THIS BITCH CO-WROTE JAY-Z’S DECODED BOOK!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TALK ABOUT WRITING SHIT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE!
LOL. Helping a RAPPER on a BOOK and taking CREDIT for it is COMPLETELY different from someone writing for an ACCLAIMED lyricist in the shadows, fucking idiot.
I’ll tell you what the problem is, heterosexual male human hip-hop fans want to be impregnated by their favorite rapper. It’s deep.
Exactly. You just described Nas and their dearest fantasy.
In what fairy tale land do you stans live in that you can’t believe that Nas has used ghostwriters. Goddamn stop tryna deify a nigga you’ll be surprised at who writes for whom in the industry all type of shit goes on. Get the man’s dick outta ya mouth. He’s most likely written for others. Jay obviously wrote QGTM if you don’t hear it you’re in denial. It’s really not that big of a deal. Jay gotta be making $$ some type of way. And writing doesn’t mean producing a production credit is separate from a writing credit goddamn making up shit just cause you’re in love with some nigga you don’t know and can’t believe it
Jay ELECTRONICA @JayElectronica
Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that mans pen and legacy is without question.
believe what you will
Of course he’s gonna deny it or else he could not be labeled a “ghostwriter”. Doesn’t take away from Nas greatness. Everyone needs help sometimes.
Who’s word do we take here?
All parties have something to gain or lose
Whose word do we take here?
All parties involved have something to gain or lose
Yall think Jay would admit it to destroy his biggest income? Nas def paying that nigga good, he wrote him some of the best verses he ever spit.
THIS BITCH IS ALREADY ON JAY-Z’S DICK, SHE GHOSTWROTE THE DECODED BOOK FOR JAY-Z.
lol only in a delusional stans head does a beef between jay and nas still exist. this nigga jay celebrates birthdays with nas. and u sitting here talking like jay dropped takeover yesterday. move on nigga.
they can’t. a battle was the highlight of nas’ career and their lives. let these faggots though. it was the first time of their life where they didn’t deal with insecurity about nas.
NAS IS THE GREATEST EVER DAZ DILLINGER WROTE ALOT OF PAC SHIT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT SHIT
Jay ELECTRONICA @JayElectronica
Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that mans pen and legacy is without question
Nas writes his own rhymes. Straight up. All the rumors in the world couldn’t ruin Nas image. Just listen to Nasty Nas in the early 90’s…. Same steez as now (obv he developed but you can tell it’s the same flow/person writing).
Mufuckin Ross and Drake fans probly startin up these stupid ass rumors
Nasty Nasdaq
yall gon bow homes, this dow jones(nas been sayin that shit since 2001)
Get’s rich but DIES rhymin, this is HIGH SCIENCE!(50 cent subliminal)Bring back Arsenio
jay elec did nt write even one line on that song
yup yup
nas been nice from day one, as for being a jay fan, dick rider, good critic. You could stay writing your long paragraph all day about jays acomplishments. But when it comes to nas writing skills you would be in denial to an extreme extent to front like anyone is touching that pen game
black thought, canibus, mos def, raekwon, g rap, rakim, elzhi, lupe fiasco, common, ghostface, az, cormega, pharoahe monch, sean price and others all take a huge shit on nas’ pen game (of which most ain’t from him), don’t lie to yourself and take that invisible shield away from nas.
damn….nas was top 5 and now that this comes out dude wont be placed in any top ten…..is he really diddy?…say it aint so!!!nas is just a vocalist?…this just fucked up my whole fuckin day….damn
read man
nas pad for life is good
http://worldofartium.com/post/29424803236
Where is that from?
No I.D posted it on his twitter (not op)
I think people forget what the difference is between a producer and a beat maker. A good producer always give the artists they are working with input, feedback, critique or whatever…”change this here, say that line like this, edit that bar, take that out”. That’s collaborating. All the greats do it. DJ Premier, Just Blaze, Pete Rock, Rza even Dr. Dre and Diddy are all known to have their artists tweak or coach their writing or hooks. Even in “Notorious” you see how Diddy helped Big piece Juicy together. Kanye West and No I.D. gave Jay the concept and ideas for Death of Autotune. If that’s considered ghostwriting then no one writes their own shit.
yup
Diddy!?! Bitch you crazy he just takes credit for other peoples work, look it up.
outside of diddy, everyone else I agree with
@ anon
if you watched Notorious, Big wasn’t feeling “Juicy” at all. Puff pretty much forced him to use it as his first single. Puff can’t write, but he has a great vision for how songs come out. Even though Puff stole the idea for Juicy from Pete Rock..lol, I wouldn’t doubt that he coached Big through that song. Even if the movie might have been a bit of a stretch favouring him. Puff has always been hands on with anything he is involved in. That’s a fact!
lol. yall call out anybody for getting help, but nas gets a pass? fucking bigotry, yall don’t deserve to be hip hop fans.
Jay-Z ghost wrote “Ether” for Nas.
lmao
nope oochy wally during the beef go figure
lmfao
yah, by living.
Jay ghostwrote Nas’ verses on Black Republican and Success.
NOOOOO!!!! SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!!
*starts sobbing uncontrollably*
NO0O0O0O0O0O0O0O0O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not just for this article but in general HIPHOPDX DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE CULTRE OF HIP HOP
you mad bro?
I agree. Hiphopdx should be ashamed. This whole thing was bitch gossip.
mad at dx like i said not for this article but in general
lol. ^^ SAME dudes would’ve jumped the gun if this was about EVERY other rapper. yall don’t want nas to be judged like a goat? take him out of the discussion then. he does get critique like every other human out there, get over it, sensitive ass faggots pleading for no more negative articles about nas on this site to protect the harmonic and mythological view they carefully build over years about their god, haha.
well stic.man just confirmed it very politely as to protect his friend Nas..basically said that Nas would give him some ideas for what he wanted, and stic would write a verse based on that..wow man never would’ve thought Nas had ghostwriters..i didnt have him in my top 5 anyway but this knocks him out of my top 10
no he didn’t sip shit – where did say that???
Reference tracks and chours-ideas and collaborating is not ghost writing…
Suck a DICK
Where did he say he wrote a verse?
that nas stan just told you suck a dick for no fucking reason smh
^^ of course. they always do. you confront nas stans with reality and they will resort to insults to protect their idol by any means nessecary.
nas stans = best bodyguards out there.
no offense but jay has absolutely no one to worry about. least of al nas,
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY JAY ELEC THAT HE DIDNT GHOST WRITE! EVERYONE RELAXX!!!!
Sticman said it all. Fuck everyone elses opinion
^ No offense, but you’re a faggot. Nas>Gay-Z
Who the fuck is this lady to even comment on a legend like Nas?
If she said Dre, Diddy, etc.
An irrelevant journalist. HiphopDX is trying to turn this into TMZ. Really… Just create a gossip section.
Yo its type wack and ill if you think about it, I think it was on some collab shit like some musicians do to perfect ideas with like minds or get some people some money think sam & huff etc who knows I wasnt there type ill on some shakespeare shit I wouldnt do it though. My first rhyme I recorded I was 15 my dun wrote the first two bars I finished the verse after that Nas one of the top MC’s kinda hard to Believe BuT who knows in this present state of hip hop never though I’d see Nas sign to Jay z or however that went down. Dead Prez and Jay Elcec dope THouGH Good GhosTwriTers for whaT iTs worTh. Does son get a pass cause he’s a legend, nah I just think its news cause he is
What the F are you talking about. Stop acting like a bitch listening to gossip.
Queens get the money sounds so much more like Jay Electronica than Nas anyway, it would make sense.
Stop smoking that crack rock.
I knew his album sounded to good lyrically for it to be done completely by him. I wonder if Nas had help with Illmatic?
from who? he was a teenager that no one knew of yet. why would some1 help him?
Yes, it sounded too good for that fucking retard who can’t articulate one proper sentence in interviews. And yes, he got help on Illmatic, he rapped many lines that were written by Cormega.
No wonder the ‘Untitled’ album sucked, ‘Life is Good’ puts it to shame.
Just quoting someone fro face book:
“Dream Hampton downplays her role in Decoded. Says she just helped convey Jay’s vision. But knocks Nas for enlisting someone to do the same.”
The Jay-z fan club is insane and to think that she threw Nas out there just because she could defend why Jay-z doesn’t have substance in his music at this point in his career.
what the fuck does this have to do with jay z? you nas fans are so fucking pressed on jay.
who cares if jay had help writing his book? he is not a novelist. that’s not his profession. you nas fans are so fucking worried about jay. everytime nas takes an L you start digging for irrelevant jay z trivia smh
what does jay z having help to write a book have to do with nas having a ghostwriter write his rhymes. smh
What did I ALWAYS say? Nas fans CAN’T take remotely close negative shit about him and his career, they will AUTOMATICALLY point their finger at Jay to take their idol out of the firing line.
Jay wrote a fucking BOOK of course will he get help from expierenced writers, like dude above said, it’s NOT his profession, but writing rhymes IS Nas’ profession, but yall too dumb to see the difference, huh?
its probably the other way around nas wrote for jay electronics upcoming album
The media has some sort of crazy internal hatred for Nas. Unfounded ridiculous claims with no factual merit turn into every single media outlet trying to stomp on Nas. Why does the media hate Nas so much when his peers revere him and hold him in such a high regard. Or is that the answer. One day later Stic Man and Jay Elec come out and tell everyone that Dream Hampton is smoking crack. None of the crazy ass articles i read have been corrected. Even MTV jumped on the bandwagon. Why hate Nas? He is the greatest lyricist of all time but people can’t wait for some bull shit to pop up to try and shit on him. Oh by the way, Dream Hampton is the co-writer of Jay-Z’s decoded (shes a stan), and she made the comments after being heckled on twitter by someone who asked her why JayZ was scared to make an album like Untitled. She got defensive, super defensive and made the comments. 4 years after that album came out she wants to make these claims. 20 years into Nas’ career someone wants to attack whether he wrote his albums and the media wants to believe it???!!! Huh WTF??? She lost all credibility if she ever had any. I hope we learned a lesson from this. I sure did and it confirmed what I’ve always suspected. The media secretly wants to see Nas fail. When they find something to hate on they run with it no matter if it’s true or not. They cannot stand his success or the admiration from his peers. It burns them to hear him held in a higher regard than the likes of Jay-Z, in this case, or others. Why hate Nas? No one could ever write lyrics in with Nas’ style. Oh I supposed Jay Elec wrote Illmatic too. Oh that’s right he wasn’t around in 92. When I heard this rumor it didn’t even make sense yet the media ran like Bolt with this one. Outrageous. Why hate Nas?
Nas is one of those rare folks who people fee “has too much”. He’s an amazing lyricist, he’s rich, he’s 40 but looks like he’s 20, ladies like him, he’s been around for over two decades and still is very relevant and popular. I feel like people want to bring him down to their level…That’s why they’re always looking for these “GOTCHA!!!” moments with Nas. They can’t wait to see him fail to confirm in their minds that he’s “not so great” and he’s “just like me”. It’s sad really, but that’s people for ya.
^ you just sound like the head dickrider of the nas clan. has too much what does that even mean? he’s rich, which rapper isnt. He’s not even a platinum rapper anymore. “ladies like him” which ladies like him? I never here no ladies talking about nas like he’s idris elba or some shit. and since you took the shallow route let’s not forget to mention that nas is a midget. He’s hardly an object of envy. he’s a legend no doubt, but all that other extra shit you said was just dickriding lol smh
to cosign ^OG..
Silky Johnson summed up the definition of P.H “I want to thank God Almighty for giving everybody So much.. and me so Little!”
“Nas is one of those rare folks who people fee “has too much”. He’s an amazing lyricist, he’s rich, he’s 40 but looks like he’s 20, ladies like him, he’s been around for over two decades and still is very relevant and popular. I feel like people want to bring him down to their level…That’s why they’re always looking for these “GOTCHA!!!” moments with Nas. They can’t wait to see him fail to confirm in their minds that he’s “not so great” and he’s “just like me”. It’s sad really, but that’s people for ya.”
P-I-T-F-U-L AND D-I-S-G-U-S-T-I-N-G! NO lady likes Gnozeer he has been left by Kelis and Carmen went to Jay to be satisfied.
YOU was talking about your homo ass thoughts about Nas and NOT what others might think about him.
Nas = Ugliest group of people EVER. You’ll NEVER see grown men PROUDLY sucking off another man like that.
I know they were turned on by the faggot shit on Ether.
You know what? Go buy some kneepads and tell Nas what you want to do and always dreamed about.
It’s NOT the media trying to take Nas down. He gets COUNTLESS of widely positive reactions fromm every media outlet and a outlet like HipHopDX needs to report negative shit about, just like they do with every single other rapper out there. Do yall only want to see positive, reality-denying things about Nas? Yes, you want. I know that this faggot midget is above critique for yall, but NOT for the rest of the world.
Well said. Dream Hampton can no longer claim to be credible. And for the sites that jumped on the bitch gossip. They need to apologize to Nas.
Nas hasn’t said anything because his lawyers are filing a defamation of character suit as we speak. This is very serious and could have led to a lot of lost money for him. She needs to be careful as well as other media outlets. Nas probably wouldn’t go that far but if I were him and saw the media backlash I would.
cosign that
I would file a claim on that chick in a heartbeat. Music is his life, it’s his career, it’s his passion and she tried to take it away from him. This is one of the most disrespectful things I’ve ever seen.
Word!!! This is fucking disrespectful. Fucking black monkey bitch claiming Nas has been ghostwritten. By stic.man and jay. Fucking pitiful. This is low. I can put up with people saying he is broke, I can put up with people saying he hasn’t made another classic but I damn well ain’t putting up with somebody saying he was ghostwritten. This is fucking nonsense
Dream Hampton = BadBoy+ Rocafella smutwhore Jumpoff.
Just like we all see right on these comments about rappers dying to stay relevant she is a bootleg journalist who is still trying to convince us she is a credible source and not a “hiphop top 100” throatjunkie
Haha. Butthurt Nas stans refusing to believe reality because they get emotionally hurt by offensive comments against their one and only hero. Do yall think you’d see that that type of excuses if that shit surfaced about Jay? Nah, you’d see people saying “Hahaha, I knew the truth about this fucking faggot” etc.
Nas = FAKE AS FUCK AND NOW OFFICIALLY USING GHOSTWRITERS
^ Homie u need to fallback & stop jerking off at the thought of another mans downfall. JayElec has said publicly he did NOT ghostwrite.. Stic is not a dumb guy and has integrity so he Would never compromise his work. if he came in and helped with ideas, tracks, hooks.. damn near proof read Nas verses then he will MAKE SURE HE TELLS The world that he put in Work, not Ghostwritten by… but I got a check and I’m proud of it! Plus he damn sure would like to get more checks in the mail dont ya think??? What has He put out commercially lately????? STFU Kick rocks nigga
Other MC’s take note. When you’ve established credibility and have earned the respect of those around you, bullshit like this can be smelled 100 miles away.
http://www.nodfactor.com/2009/06/23/stic-man-talks-about-producing-for-nas/ (stic man talking in 09 about the WHOLE process)
http://worldofartium.com/post/29424803236
NO ID talking about nas writing
“Jay ELECTRONICAVerified
@JayElectronica
Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that mans pen and legacy is without question.”
Nas does love hip hop, like his music or not, he is a true artist. Read the articles, stic man wrote a hook and brought beats, no ghostwriting there. Why do we discredit artists that uplift hip hop? Like him or not, he gave us ten solo albums and the firm, qb’s finest, nigga mixtape, lost tapes yet we hate a undoubted top 5 emcee. He has aided the rise and advancement of hip hop. Hiphopdx should change the title to “allegedly” and show that all parties stated it wasn’t true.
co-sign
i hope dream hampton gets her ass handed to her for this fiasco
FOH with the ghost writing B.S …. if you clowns purchased albums and actually took a minute to READ it clearly says Stic man Co wrote on the Untitled Album !!!
How could Jay Electronica ghostwrite when he’s never written a rhyme?
September 19, 2010
Carter Whitelow
Voir Dire Enlightenment Project LLC
Richmond, VA 23236
To Whom It May Concern,
If you have taken time out of your lives for this letter, you love hip hop. In the best interests of all hip hop consumers and connoisseurs, I have decided to come forward and admit that I wrote songs that have been used by Jay Electronica.
This situation is hard for me to speak about because this was my life. As a writer, you always strive to put every piece of your soul into your work, and I strive to achieve that with every work I create. However, I am a Hip Hop fan first and foremost. I dreamed of a day where the nature of hip hop would revert back to the moments where an emcee is an artist and not a commodity. My original works were to be a testament to every kid that was dealing with drugs, loss, and an unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my message has been skewed over the past several years. This was the last time I could stand aside and let fans of my craft be dissapointed for no apparent reason. Let me first detail how Act II, or what Jay Electronica and the blogosphere call Act I, came to existence.
When I was a senior in high school in 2002, I started writing a full length novel called Act I. It is a memoir detailing my life at the time; partying, weed smoking, all of the things that wayward kids do. It was my plan to release the book in a double book format, along with a poetry/rhyme book. The poetry book was called Act II: The Life and Times of Carter Whitelow. In this book, I detailed my alter ego, called Trademark Legacy, aka the Black Adam. During the years of 2002-2006, I continued to hone my craft and finish both handwritten documents. My plan was to have the books published, however something called me to rap.
I attended George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia from 2002-2005 off and on. I just knew that the things I was writing would make me famous. You know when you have something that is just undeniable. It was like the words were just falling out of my pen. In full disclosure, I was in the deep throws of several addictions, including xanax, weed, codeine, X. Just a recipe for death really. I was heavily influenced by Eminem at the time, and I was watching a Behind the Music on him one night. A music critic said that the one thing that set Eminem apart was his use of syllables and rhyme structure. The entire piece was meant to recreate the syllable, rhyme structure and cadence of an Eminem album. I studied all of his songs, as well as Pac, Rakim, Jay-Z, Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, and Nas. I would stay up all night, trying to figure out why they said things where they said them, and how I could frame my story in a similar manner. I wanted to be a hybrid of all the great rappers of the time. The heartbreak of the recent death of my father, as well as a failed relationship led me to create what was called Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
I started Eternal Sunshine in 2004, during the first wave of the crunk-downsouth revival. It was a song that was meant for people to use to cope with the struggles of anything you were going through in life. Just erase your mind. The original premise of the first verse was supposed to be a message to my ex girlfriend at the time. Hence the line She said she never fell in love with a superman. I referenced the Eminem song here due to her admiration of the song. The rest of the song was coming together like a novel of my mind at the time. I was a Catholic that had lost faith, studying buddhism, islam, and hinduism. I would keep references from these religions near me, and literally look at the works, and make a rhyme. This was the entire strategy that I would attack songs with early on. I would say a couple of lines about my personal experiences, and spit some religion. If you read the second stanza of Eternal, I detail my personal struggle to overcome the pain of my ex girlfriend. All of these songs were crafted in the Metro station in Suitland, Maryland through D.C., to Fairfax, Virginia. This is also why the majority of the songs that I wrote contained a reference to trains. I would have to hop the gates to get in and out just to get where I needed to go. if my skull was cracked, and blood ran down to the culdesac, that could not match me where im at/ my memories flash me there and back was a direct reference to when I lived in a cul de sac and I gushed my head open as a child. You get the picture. I could go on all day about the nuts and bolts of every lyric I wrote, Ill get to how I BELIEVE Jay Electronica acquired my lyrics.
I have been advised by legal council not to divulge individuals names that are not of public domain. For that reason, I will call this person John Finate. I met John Finate during my first year at George Mason. I knew this kid was rich and had connections, but I didnt know he loved hip hop. We would hang out and make beats on his MPC-4000, smoke a little and chill, you know. I would carry my books with me like a nomad, and anything that I saw, I would write about it. We would always go from D.C. up 95 to New Jersey, where his family stayed. He would always tell me, Man, when we go up here, were goin to RocaFella, Def Jam, all of that. I thinkin that this white kid must be crazy. What I came to realize is that we dont see the real mechanics of the industry from the sideline. This kid was connected through a major electronic company. John and I were initially trying to shop beats, like the broke mans Neptunes. We made some quick sloppies and were trying to get our foot in the door. In the back of my mind im thinking we will get kicked out like DJ Jazzy Jeff on Fresh Prince. John says his name at the desk and in no time we went straight up to the Def Jam Office. They were still changing over from the RocaFella acquisition so there was more ROC than anything up there. I was starstruck, walking around rubbing shoulders with Biggs, it was crazy. We meet an A&R who no longer is employed with Def Jam, and John and I give him our CD. He gives us the obligatory, Oh yeah yall are just here cause your somebodys kid look, grabs it and moves on. Im thinking we finally made it, when he probably just waited until we walked out and trashed it. Regardless, we carried on like we were gonna start a Production unit. I kept writing, assuming that the in-road I just made would lead to something. As most artist soon realize in the industry, just because you know someone does not mean you are A Go.
Off and on for three years John and I went up to New York, sometimes to chill, sometimes to work. In January 2006, I left George Mason and I left my book with John, telling him to shop it for me when he went back up north. I moved to Richmond, VA, and he promised me he would look out. That was the end of the book as I knew it, and the beginning of where we are now.
For four years, I just forgot about rapping and writing. I really truly felt that if I couldnt make it, then I didnt want to do it anymore. I just listened to old Reflection Eternal, Pac, Jay Z, so on and so forth. I just listened to enough new rap to get me through the club nights. I found myself listening to garbage just to stay culturally relevant. I started school at VCU, got clean from the pills and concentrated on actually getting my degree. Throughout this entire period, my brother Taylor was heavy into the blogs and hip hop news sites. He kept telling me, Yo, listen to this Jay Electronica *****, man hes the realist. As a hip hop fan, I couldnt tell you how many times Ive heard this rapper or that rapper was hot, so I just brushed it off. He wasnt on the radio for the hour I listened to it, so I didnt care. Finally, on January 19, 2010, I was outside doing yardwork and we were listening to Wiz. He says, Man, Wiz is hot, but that ***** Jay Electronica is like top five in the game. I finally buckled and went to Vuze and downloaded his catalogue.
The first thing I initially noticed was that Jay Electronicas song titles were eerily similar to the ones I wrote about. You know how you get this feeling when you meet someone again after a long period of time. You know you know them. I was reading the thread and song titles on what he called ACT:I, and I am shaking my head thinking I must be crazy. I just downloaded it along with some mixtapes, and went to work. I thought it was weird that some random cat was thinking the same way I was thinking, and I was hyped. I was so ready to hear some real hip hop for a change. I got home that night, plugged my headphones in, and started vibing. The first song I heard was Extra Extra. Mind you the title is THE EXACT SAME as it was in the book. I crank it and Im bobbing my head just chilling, listening to the beat a little. Then I start hearing the words and I couldnt believe what I was hearing. This dude is rapping about the same things, in the same cadence and structure that I used to. When I listen to mixtapes, I give it that obligatory minute, then I move on to the next song. I brushed it off, got halfway through the song and moved on. The next thing I heard was Uzi Weighs a Ton. I listened closely for 15 seconds to the lyrics, and I was picking up on what he was saying before he said it. I sat up in my bed, and I was looking around like someone had died. This man got one of my songs. Or so I thought.
I looked at my iPhone and I was stunned. I skipped to the song Girlfriend…I heard one 8 and I took off my headphones and screamed. Theres another one. By this time Im half hyped, and half panicked. Im happy to hear my songs, I couldnt believe it. On the other hand Im trying to figure out how this even happened. I look back at all of my files, I see all of my books that I have from that era, but not ACT II. I knew at that precise moment what had happened, I got got. I went online and started researching who Jay Electronica was. I noticed that he was affiliated with a producer that John had been in contact with. I was stunned to think that someone really made it in the industry with my rhymes, and that someone would actually use my personal experiences. I looked at the lyrics on a message board, and it was confirmed. I am Jay Electronica.
The first person I called was John, who is now a UAE/ USA party promoter. I call him and ask him if he knows anything about Jay Electronica. He lives in New York, was deep in the game, and said I dont even know who Jay Electronica is… My mind went from This a mistake to OK, I see whats going on. I told John to get in contact with his old connects, and tell them to contact me. I also contacted Jay Electronica the only way I knew how; through Twitter. I wanted to reach out and complete the project that everyone wanted. Act II, I read, was supposed to come out in 2008 or 2009. I found out in January 2010, and for a solid month I reach out through every channel I know how. I tried contacting all of the people affiliated with him, to no avail. I read that he was doing legitimate shows, making money off of it for several years. Honestly I was mad and frustrated. I cant even finish the job that I wanted to do, and this guy is ruining everything I was trying to create. His buzz was dying and all I could do is sit back and watch him squander my vision. On the 22nd of January, I sent a direct message to Jay Electronica, urging his representation to meet with me. No discussion. The only problem is that I duplicate songs in several books, some of which contain songs that are in ACT II the book. My legal council told me that now he cant release a song from that book, or he will take a chance that the song he chooses will be one I have. Thats why, since early this year in my opinion, you havent heard anything that resembles the Jay Electronica you thought you knew.
I have not accused anyone of any malice, I am just stating what I know to be a fact. I cannot tell you how Jay Electronica acquired my book. I can tell you that he did have the book, and I can also tell you that I have songs in that book that have yet to be released.
In closing, I would like to say that you, the reader, dont have to believe this. You can go on believing that this album will one day happen. Maybe now it will. You can have your theories and ideas as to why this is occuring. But I promise you, it wont be from the same person that wrote the Eternal Sunshine. I hope you understand why I had to come forward at this stage, and I wish Jay Electronica the best in his career.
Enclosed is a link to the follow up to what I have written before. Link To BASE B.A.S.E. is the natural progression, lyrically, of what you have heard in the past. Listen to my rhyme structure and compare the new 2010 Jay Electronica with B.A.S.E. Then go back and listen to Act I and tell me what you think. I will not stand back and let real hip hop die. Open your mind and listen. Take The Oath.
Sincerely,
Carter Whitelow
Voir Dire Enlightenment Project LLC
voirdire.bandcamp.com
if your sitting in the studio with nas and start humming a rhythm, not words just a rhythm and he says “do that again” and then he raps words to the rhythm you get co-writer credits. like the dude who got a grammy for drakes best i ever had. nobody writes for nas. being there and coming with ideas is different. look at the credits on all your favorite albums. who are those extra people? it would just be two names. the producer. the rapper. if the singer writes the hook on a song and sings it… same thing. cut the crap.
Yall really think Nas would use Stic Man as a ghost writer? When was the last time Stic Man wrote a hit for himself? now hes writing hits for Nas? come on yall
PREACH.
@YaHEardSyndicate nigga y u posting the same shit on other websites LOL
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WHY IS THIS NIGGA NAS SO QUIET?
he said in an interview that he never used a ghost writer, it’s on youtube
^^^ it’s not like people can’t lie n shit
that interview was made BEFORE these allegations
lol. these fucking idiots REALLY think gnozeer wouldn’t lie to save his face? he’s a fucking snake and has yall deluded to the point that yall erase anything remotely close negative about him.
^^^ it’s not like people can’t lie n shit
Exactly, but in this case who is doing the lying?
Ayo, queens get the money ( QB reference)
Tell him his name Nasir, tell him how he got here
Niggas is still hatin( hate me now reference), talking that
Nas done fell off with rhyming, he rather floss with diamonds
They pray, please God, let him spit that ozzie and the army linin
That shorty doowop rollin oo-whops (one love illmatic reference)
Take 27 emcees, put them in a line and they out of alignment ( Rakim, Nas’ favorite emcee reference)
My assignments since he said retirement
Hiding behind 8 mile and The Chronic
Gets rich but dies rhymin, this is high science
Now, add 23 more for queens to be more
50 porch monkeys ate up at the same time
Nasty NasDaq, yall gonna bow Holmes, this is Dow Jones (50 cent beef reference)
My queen used her milkshake (kelis)
hip hop was aborted ( hhid reference)
So Nas breathes life back into the embryo
….Nas didn’t write these lyrics?
lol ok then ppl….this was nas talking, it’s personal and there wasn’t any doubt at the time that he wrote it. jayelec barely calls his own name in his songs, if he writes for another, that aspect of his style would not change, look how much times nas comes up here by name…study your emcees and learn their style, this wreaks of nas. Save a line or 2, this has to be nas writing
Great points. Also, he’s getting at 50 the whole time. Hiding behind 8 mile and Chronic… That’s Nas ya’ll.
is this really news?
What do you consider Hip Hop news, then? Huh?! Tell me, Gay Tony!
kinda is
until jay elec and stic man say these words exactly and i quote “I DID NOT GHOSTWRITE FOR NAS” i believe they did. they didnt confirm nor did they deny ghostwriting. people use the words collaborating and a bunch of other industry jargen to elude and dance around the question. this is a clear cut and dry situation. a simple yes or no will suffice. i used to be a huge nas fan but im salty about this. she said she heard 6 reference tracks as well. that sounds like proof to me especially if she has copies of the tracks.
your no true fan your a fly by nighter if this makes you “salty”…Nas body of work is monumental…just take just 1 track, nevermind albums, 1 track “rewind” and put that against ANY…A-N-Y DP or jay elec track…GTFOH…your an internet guy, niggas like you get mad over stupid shit anyway, it dont even have to be a big deal and youd find something to be “salty” about tomorrow smh…
IDK who to believe
Nothing is clear
Looks like to me, Nas released a phenomenal classic album of recent and someone is trying to detract from this. The question is who put her up to this?
Jay-Z
Damn y’all little kids acting like someone just said that Santa Clause aint real… SMH its no secret that a lot of people have collaborators(some what of a ghost writer) so its nothing to be concerned about, just check the cd book, every song that has someones name in it, means they contribute to that album, and best believe you only get credited when you contributed a good portion of a track. But regardless of whether its true or not, does not take away from his entire peace of work. FOr what its worth Nas has really remained himself from the 90’s to now, actually as of late he’s been doing some odd collabs like the whole Nikki, Wayne, Rick Ross… collabs but other than that he’s been the same guy. SO its not like he’s a phony or nothing. And to all the stans saying that the “MEDIA” is trying to destroy Nas hahahaha relax Nas aint that much of a threat to no one, there just reporting on a trending topic….
Well said I agree. Nas has around a billion songs and about 900 million are great. Jay Elec is a dope mc. I’m sure alot of rappers may have had ghostwriters every once in a while but only a small percentage of the time. Plus whose to say that Nas did it because he was fatigued maybe he was doing those guys a favor allowing them to contribute and get paid. They don’t have albums out now so that probably put some money in their collective pockets.
ROFLLMAO! Yeah, everybody gets help, but others get called out for this fucking BS, EVERY rapper that ever grabbed a microphone, BESIDES that fucking faggot Nas.
I’ve ghostwritten…and it’s a collaboration of speeding up the writing process…sometimes the artist won’t even let you say what you want and you got to come up with something they will roll with..or they come up with the filler themselves…and sometimes they don’t even fuck with the whole verse you wrote and take bits and pieces from it…sometimes it’s just helping an artist who is “paid” build it up and get a little paid at the same time…no biggy
Thx for the insight doggs, I’m a big fan of son but I can see somethin like you talk abt taking place. Especially since its his most controversial lp he called up DeadPrez to feed off that energy.. get a lil deep into that blackpower movement…
LOL. Look at these dumb fuckcs handing out passes and excuses because they world view has been shattered to pieces. They’re really trying to take “HUGE PORTIONS” to “A LITTLE HELP”, hahahahaha. NOBODY would be excused like that and that tells yall can’t take the truth.
Nas keep loosin. Lil Wayne wins again! diz fucken Lil Wayne wannabe cant even write his own lyrics. get a better ghostwriter next time like Weezy, Drake or Baby and u will sell 500k first week. old ass Lil Wayne wannabe. swag
you must want some attention cause you talking stupid the simple fact you think baby ever wrote shit but a check or i love to kiss lil wayne letters
Niggaz thorowng dirt on Nas hoppin somethin would stick and drag his Goatness back to normal terms. dream on
1. Nas
2. Other Mcees
you
nas’ dick
Is that empty space there to resemble Nas’ cum on your face?
Jay electronica cant even write an album for himself let alone an album for Nas…
That doesn’t make any damn sense. There’s more to prepping an album than writing lines
Well, Queens Get The Money shits all over any Nas track and you know who wrote it.
NAS IZ THA DON 4 REAL…BEST LYRICS IN THA GAME BAR-NONE!…RAPPERS NEED 2 LEARN FROM HIM…
Pure horse shit!
Dream Hampton has always been suspect to me, all she did was give throat to BIG and BadBoy for her so called top exxxclusives. She had issue with Pac because of this which shows history of her lack of journalistic integrity. Come to think of it I’ve heard her speak on the 90’s NYC hiphop movement as if she is some top notch credible historian and I’ve NEVER heard her say shit nice about Nas
Now l understand why Nas is so lowkey. the hate he gets when he is shining in unbelievable. I honestly think some people don’t like the fact that Nas is called a legend and Jay Z is not. For Dream Hampton to tweet that and have an article about it ready about it at the same time is suspect to me. here is a link to ghostwriter, allegedly:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5215623
Now l understand why Nas is so lowkey. the hate he gets when he is shining in unbelievable. I honestly think some people don’t like the fact that Nas is called a legend and Jay Z is not. For Dream Hampton to tweet that and have an article about it ready about it at the same time is suspect to me.
“I honestly think some people don’t like the fact that Nas is called a legend and Jay Z is not.”
Hahahaha, this fucking no friends having nerd NEVER been outside.
Jay SIGNED Nas, you fucking goddamn idiot. Jay has 14 Grammy’s, 3 classics to his name and 11 number albums, what is you fucking idiot talking about? Nas has internet accomplishments, fucking losers like you as fans.
she sent the tweets
old boy had an article ready
wellcome to the club lil hommie.
Club of steroid abusers?
fuck Nas! he cant write a line by himself. talentless ass nigga. swag
best MCs
Lil Wayne
Rick Ross
Drake
Tyga
Wiz
Mac Miller
2 Chainz
Fuck u…n i mean it.
Jesus, thats a list of rappers that need to be captured by government officials and left to rot in barrels of strong acid.
what the f#ck are you talking about, you must be joking
Ha!! Look at vanilla ice’s favorite rappers list. Mainstream ho3. Might as well throw curren$y in there cause Wayne kept stole all his lines. And nah f**k head i ain’t talking bout Wayne Brady. (Drake ghost riding for me too).
I do believe Nas probably did speak with Stic for information regarding government policy and probably drew from that well of knowledge and/or propaganda depending on what you believe or not. Nas is an artist and at this point in his career that has spanned over nearly 20 years, he has written classic verses like Mozart composed classical music. He wrote arguably the benchmark for all hip hop albums Illmatic. I do believe he collaberated with Jay Elect because anytime you work with a producer/artist ( Jay produced on Untitled) you are going to work on a song together and ideas and lines probably have those origins, but to knock Nas are try to diminish what he has accomplished when no other rapper ever has a body of work to compare to his, is plain ol’ foolishness. Nas is an all time great and you can take that album away and it wouldn’t hurt his legacy. He is the GOAT with or without that album. He is like Barry Bonds, even if he took the PED’s he didn’t need them, he was already the best hitter in the game. But it remains to be proven so haters need to hate quietly.
Yo, there is a clear diff between collaborating n bouncing ideas off each other and Ghost writing large portions of d album like d bitch Dream Hampton claimed.
Both Stic.man n J.Elect got co-writing n production credits on a couple of tracks on d album. I wonder how that translates into writing large portions of d album. Its just ridiculous how these peeps wont stop at tryna pull Nas down for some reason. Check out a Stic.man’s interview on his involvement with d album. http://www.nodfactor.com/2009/06/23/stic-man-talks-about-producing-for-nas/
LMAO! Look at these hurt cocksuckers grasping for every straw to save their idol. LOL. NOBODY gets the passes that Nas does! Every other rapper would’ve caught hell for news like this, yall would jump the gun, so why don’t let others do the same? Fucking brokeback mountain actors.
NAS IS A GHOSTWWRITTER HIMSELF… THIS SHIT HILARIOUS
And a ghostwriter for simpleton popstar lyrics can’t get help from more profilic lyricists??? Haha, yall Nas stans can’t take the heat! hahahha.
SMH @ how how mad peeps been tryna pull Nas down for decades now without succeeding. I guess his continued success against all expectations rubs em off like a bad massage.
This for peeps dat got a lil brain n not rumour mongers n haters alike. Stic.man interview on his involvement with the Untitled album: http://www.nodfactor.com/2009/06/23/stic-man-talks-about-producing-for-nas/
I bet these haters still telling themselves Stic.man n Jay Elect denying this bullshit dnt count for nothing.
You fucking dumb bastard thought they would go to the media with that? What a fucking idiot. They need Nas’ money and Nas need their lyrics. You telling yourself it ain’t true because you had that image of Nas being the best lyricist is now destroyed!!!
the internet age is a muthafucker…no more mystery. if u research this carefully, u will find out that most of your favourite rappers got some help in writing your favourite song. i suspect nas used those guys to make songs that appeal to the trend that was occuring at that time.
MORE AND MORE EXCUSES!!! EVERY RAPPER HAS TOLD LIES, BUT DOES RICK ROSS GET A PASS? EXACTLY! NAS BEST SHIT IS WRITTEN BY GHOSTWRITERS!!! I KNEW IT THE FIRST TIME I HEARD QUEENS GET THE MONEY, THE WORDPLAY WAS WAY TOO SMART FOR NAS!!! AND THIS COMING FROM THE SELF-PROCLAIMED BEST LYRICIST! NIGGAS MAKING EXCUSES BECAUSE THEY CAN’T THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR IDOL!! YOU KNOW WHAT??
Ja Rule ghostwrote Jay-Z’s verse on “Can I Get a What What.”
jay-z dont write
STOP POINTING THE ATTENTION TO SOMEBODY ELSE, NAS IS GETTING EXPOSED NOW NIGGAS COMING OUT THE BUSHES, TELLING HIS LITTLE SECRETS!!!
I feel a Dream Hampton diss track coming…
Jay ELECTRONICA @JayElectronica
Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that mans pen and legacy is without question.
Skillz wrote hooks for Nas on a couple of albums, no?
You really stupid enough to think they would say it, only to be erased off Nas’ payroll? Fuck outta here, yall so fucking dumb and naive. Your nigga Nasir is a straight up fraud, no wonder he loves Fat Ross so much.
AAHAHAHA THIS FOOL NAS HAS BEEN EXPOSED AS A FRAUD… IN 2-3 DAYS WE’LL GET TO KNOW THAT ILLMATIC WAS GHOSTWRITTEN BY VANILLA ICE…. GO COP BASED ON A T.R.U STORY INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO THIS PHONY ASS NIGGA.
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LMAO TROLL ASS NIGGA, FUNNY SHIT THOUGH
I AINT A NIGGA DUMBASS… IM WHITE BUT I HAVE A FAT ASS COKK!! WANNA CHOKE ON IT?
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NAS GONNA ETHER JAY ELEC.
Every artist uses reference tracks nowadays it’s common place.I’m a producer and can show you list the record labels send out for artist stating they need,tracks,full songs,and beats with reference tracks all the time.
Fuck outta here, you excuse-making bastard. The fake thug is finally getting what he deserves. Niggas will start to expose this clown now.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!
I’ve BEEN telling niggas about this fucking lame ass faggot. I’ve confronted these cocksuckers MONTHS AGO saying that Jay Electronica wrote Queens Get The Money. You hear it in every single line and the whole structure is too obvious. The fucking retardedness of Nas is noticeable in every single interview and yall think this dude is capable of writing Untitled alone? Fuck out of here, deluded, cum-guzzling dickriders.
Like Cormega said:
“Matter of fact, time for Sony to pay me
For “Life’s a bitch, God forbid the bitch divorce me”
“Street Dreems”, and every other rhyme you got off me
I shoulda kept the rhymes for me
Fuck it now the whole world know”
Cormega didn’t ghost write for nas though, this is like calling out biggie for writing half of jay z rhymes…nas built upon the idea of street dreams and the other lines he probably just heard cormega saying and thought they were dope so used them before cormega could
I mean he wrote better albums than Untitled
Why wouldn’t Nas be able to write it?
i love how they say kanye west….kanye always gives credit to all people that are always involved in a song…also i still do think Nas just asked for stuff regarding history and shit..its like he already knew what direction he wanted to go….everybody needs help with someone no matter how great they are….i liked the album and this is all just bull shit cuz niggas aint got better shit to do
Soulja Boy Ghostwrote Nas’ LIFE IS GOOD!
of you did not hear jay electronica all over queens get the money, you didnt listen well…pay attention towards the end….i thought everyone knew this
its time for this shit to just be known…it is common practice…jadakiss wrote a lot f biggie’s stuff, mase did too, lupe wrote for jay-z black album, common wrote for kanye among many others, outkast wrote diamonds are forever verses for jay-z (you can actually look this one up easily on ASCAP)..if you did not hear jay electronica all over the tail end of queens get the money, you dont have ears…
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This bitch is lying…stic. man had a conversation with her and seems confused to how she heard reference tracks. Stic.mans words was that he “assisted where it was requested with ideas, beats and some writing”
Translation: Yes, I was a ghostwriter.
translation…i wrote the odd chorus, assisted with production and bounced some ideas back and fourth with him. He already has writing credits for the album, nas has nothing to hide. If you think this is ghostwriting then every rapper out has ghost writers
READ THIS:
What this site failed to mention was that this is the same woman who ghostwrote Jay-Z’s “Decoded” book and the “Jay” she’s talking about in her tweet response to that guy is Jay-Z. There are pictures of the two hugging up, she loves Jay-Z. Which is why that random guy asked her why can’t Jay-Z make a meaningful album like Nas’ “Unititled”. She then got defensive and started making stuff up about Nas using ghostwriters for that album, while also saying things like “I love Nas, he’s a poet” to save face and make people think she wasn’t lying. Jay Electronica did write Queen’s Get The Money, but he wrote THE MUSIC FOR THE SONG, he was the producer. This is obviously a case of half truths being used to mislead people and defend the man she knows and loves.
Also, she’s in no way affiliated with Nas and DOES NOT have exclusive access to any of his material. If this were the case, and she’s a hiphop journalist, don’t you think she would have jumped at the opportunity to tell this to the world years ago? That album came out 4 years ago. Why just casually spill it in a tweet argument about Jay-Z’s creativity level? What she said was a DEFENSIVE reaction to someone saying Nas is better then Jay-Z, plain and simple. And she knew because she had 30k followers it was a “juicy” eye catching story, people like HHDX would spread it all over the internet for views.
This is the truth, but in the end people are going to believe what they want to believe. They want Nas to fail, so they will believe whatever negative press that comes out about him is true. This will spread across the internet and gain traction unfortunately. What I believe Nas should do is sue this person for slander. The damage has been done, she has no evidence, take her to court.
“This is the truth, but in the end people are going to believe what they want to believe. They want Jay to fail, so they will believe whatever negative press that comes out about him is true. This will spread across the internet and gain traction unfortunately. What I believe Jay should do is sue this person for slander. The damage has been done, she has no evidence, take her to court.”
I just fixed that for you, fucking stan.
“What she said was a DEFENSIVE reaction to someone saying Nas is better then Jay-Z, plain and simple”
Did you read the comments, you loser? Nas stans are doing the EXACT same you try to call out this lady for, they always did.
You say this girl is lying? Well, you have absolutely no prove that could lead to believe that Nas does write his own lyrics. You’re building your defensive novel on lies and beliefs.
^ Note: I’m not a Jay-Z or Nas fan. I’m a detective, and I call it as I see it. I’ve been reading the comments, and you on the other hand are a Jay-Z fan who hates Nas. You’ve been posting hate comments all mourning.
^^ nas stans resorting to insults AGAIN!
“She’s a fucking liar on Jay-Z dick trying to pull Nas down to bring Jay up.”
And you don’t think Nas stans have a set goal to do the opposite?
so one of the guys who supposedly ghostwrote for Nas is saying it’s bullshit, yet the ‘journalist’ with ‘sources’ still says it’s true? uhhh..ok.
“And I assisted where it was requested (translated: I was hired) with ideas, beats and some writing”
– Stic.man
And Nas took claim for another guy’s lyrics. Absolutely pitiful. Fake recognize fake. That’s why this assclown likes to feature Rick Ross so much.
the trolls are out
Grab your torches and pitchforks
You know who wrote NAS’ album? Ja fuckin’ Rule.
Ja Rule been writin’ NAS’ albums for a while now, not to mention he wrote DMX’s albums, 50 cent’s albums, jay z’s albums… Ja Rule is that nigga with unlimited rhyme material.
The funny thing is, “Untitled” is Nas weakest album lyrically.
Oh, you guys trying to spin this one around, huh? Nice try.
Man NAS… You should collab with Ja Rule, I know he writes your shit, but still…
Nas was gonna sign to Murder.Inc back in the day, because Ja Rule wrote all his shit.
Ja Rule has so much material it’s not even funny… He doesn’t need to write niggaz albums, that shit comes out naturally.
All I’m a say is Ja Rule man… He’s that rhyme nigga, killin’ niggaz careers type a nigga.
This bitch also claimed that tupac got raped in prison…theres her credibility for ya
anyone else notice how jay electronica kinda looks like radio raheem
none of these guys are gonna admit to writing for NaS.
If Nas exposed for having help, then the whole entire genre’s credibility goes down the drain. This is the guy who Hip Hop holds its hat on when it comes to lyrics. Well there is always Eminem.
dickriding stan hater bitch, faggot. Now here is my top 5
Alright, shut the fuck up all of you trolls. What the hell is that shit bout Ja Rule writing shit, he is a fake wannabe Tupac. Nas is a legend and The Detective is exactly right, she got too defensive and wanted to put someone down for all the good work that person has done. There is no denying that Nas is a top 5 MC and he has not needed ghostwriters his whole career, and stop talking about that shit of how Nas is a fake gangster, you dont know wtf he has been through, you guys are just middle class lazy white boys who have adopted the gay Young Money swag persona and praise modern day rappers who dont deserve a mention. Respect #TheDon
please dont generalise not all middle class white kids listen to that young money bullshit
wow man, wuddup world. yall need to both firmly jump off up off all they jocks man. this real life here. keep it 100 pls
Yeah, the rappers Nas LOVES to work with, hahahaha, you fucking idiot. He praised the shit outta Minaj and featured Wayne and Ross several times.
Its funny because Nas is a ghostwriter for some people and alot of artist owe their allegiance to this man for what he has done for them. Every one nowadays is a troll, you guys haven’t come up with any good points, just comments like “THIS NIGGA IS FAKE”. Fucking bitches.
yo wuddd it do? you may wanna reframe and jump up off his jock, duke
OK, I’ve read the tweets, watched the video, the article, and tons of comments. Nothing is clear. Stic and JE didn’t give a definitive no but said Nas doesn’t need ghostwriters. The guy who wrote the article doesn’t have proof and where are the reference tracks dream said she heard?
Everything is foggy, nothing definitive one way or the other. People are going to believe what they want one way or the other. Nas haters will say, “They aren’t going to tell the truth about Nas to the public because of the money involved” (Which, lets be honest is a valid argument.)Nas fans will say stic and JE denied this and neither dream or the guy who wrote the article have any concrete evidence (Which, lets be real is a valid argument.)
All parties involved have something to gain and or lose in this situation, be it money, fame, reputation ect. The only way I see this settled is through a lawsuit. Someone’s lying, or has the facts worded wrongly. I need more information. Innocent until proven guilty.
so who wrote illmatic? cormega?
AZ
Cormega and AZ had both contributions, no wonder that they fucking OUTCLASSED him on Life’s A Bitch and Affirmative Action.
I thought it was common knowledge that Stic contributed some lines to ni**er album. Sly foxes opening lines were Stic’s if I remember right. I know one of them mentioned it. Not to mention it was Stic’s idea for the song concept. “We’re not alone” was originally a dead prez intended track too. They were collaborating so I’m sure a hot lline or 2 was borrowed to add to the song. I just have beef with complete ghost written verses like diddy and dre uses.
Glad JE and Stic said something in reference to the contributions they made. Nas def doesn’t need help but when you have energy from 2 brothers like Stic and JE there is nothing wrong with those types of contributions. Some of y’all worried about the wrong sh*t and some never even been to a recording session or know about the process of making music. Dream wrong for putting out that energy, this is what’s wrong when journalism is used in the way she has. I thought she had more respect for the culture than that.
yo you wanna get off his jock? jock ridah!! sucka mc
Real talk, everyone’s wondering what’s up with al the Ja Rule posting everywhere, but the truth is, he’s makin’ a comeback… Not to mention he wrote every single song NAS released.
WUDDUP fam its cha boi back at it in the world. back like cooked coke crack ya dig.. yall hate on ross, but how yall gon justfiy this cat nas getting ghost writers… eh yo they better hope its not true. this was some lame kitten garbage! the only album worse then this was illmatic. damn yall. yall can hate on ross but duke writes and produces all his ish mang. hip hop royality.. nas the jester – ya dig?
its cha boi
So Stic never said he didnt. LMAO Nas takes another L …this is a sad day for hip hop
He’s the biggest L that ever disgraced Hip Hop.
These nikka’s is Garbage. If its true, which i don’t think it is, and you so concerned bout ghost writin, then what chu ghost write for the Nikka for then? Cat jus be talkin to hear themselves talk…Life is Good Byatches!
…..weak album anyway……the only one weaker is this current album…..
this shit is so stupid…just a lame ass person making some shit up for shock value….stick man can hardly make some hot shit for himself so how the hell he writing for nas?…and jay aint on nas level…if anything its jay who tries hard to sound like nas…this is just a br made up rumor for some attention
@ Cha Boi no jock riding here brother, not an internet thug or hater either. So carry on with your nonsense and let me have my opinion just like you have yours. Peace
@ Cha Boi then you talking bout back like cooked crack smh, go somewhere with that nonsense
Jay Electronica ain’t never wrote a rhyme in his life.
http://www.the9elements.com/2010/09/artist-claims-jay-electronica-stole-his.html
This is straight up sucka shit. Perfect for the small minded whose thoughts revolve around gossip and other nonsense. Mission accomplished DX! Its not like ya’ll are sitting around contemplating anything meaningful anyway so have at it.
Both this and Nas’ last albums captured my attention and had more to say than singing/crying rapper wannabe’s or CO’s turned thugs or niggas that kiss other niggas in the mouth.
Those rappers are cool but at the end of the day they are pretty disposable – the litmus test is time – will they be relevant in 20 years?
All in all if that is what you call Hip Hop you need that special brand of Listerine for the brain – swish it around niggas.
-gone
THAT LAST REAL INDIVIDUAL TO KEEP HIP HOP ALIVE AND YALL TRYNA DISCREDIT THE MAN WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO WAYNE GAY ASS HAS KNOWN GHOST WRITERS (GILLIE) AND THE WORLD PRAISES HIM NAS IS THE GOAT HANDS DOWN.
this is fuckin unbelievable, how this fuckin dream hampton whore can talk shit that way?? what’s the point of trying to discredit Nas?? knowing that the truth would blow one way or another??
is she trying to promote a fuckin book/movie ??
fucking garbage, fuck her and those who tryin to kill hip hop
well done dream hampton, you’re famous now, happy???
your reputation has just ended with that bullshit you tried to make !
R.I.P.
we on LFIG I dnt give a fuck about that other album. Didnt like dat album anyway
Stickman is an average rapper at best…He sounds NOTHING like Nas and could never write in the complex way that Nas writes. Jay Electronica however is lyrical, but his style is nothing like Nas’. He sounds more like Killah Priest or maybe MF Doom. Loads of artists have been in the studio with Nas, so if he used ghost writers he would have been exposed a long time ago.
HHDX is wrong to post this article…They are becoming like a gossip site. This person holds no weight in the game, and doesn’t even know Nas personally.
Its funny how hiphop dx would post this gossip when they already did an interview with stic man where he explains how he met up with nas and how the process went with making songs with nas. It was a collaboration people. Stop the nonsense.Follow link to see 2008 interview by hiphopdx
https://hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1240/title.producers-corner-sticman
This whole site is based on gossip and Nas is a public figure, so people will always talk shit/good about him.
Jay elect is ill no question , but to say he wrote for a dud that pioneered his whole, flow, style( Jay does mirror Nas). lie! To say Dead presidents Stic. man wrote for nas. Cut it out. Nas is on a whole other level Period. Its shows through in wordplay Timing and the flow.
Um. nas did already release a statement, and Jay Electronica chimed in. The rumor is a wrap.
I would like to read nas statement. Link?
YES i remember reading an interview where he said JayE is a genius and that he helped create the album as a whole. he also said that Stic-man was in almost all the studio sessions too…. so this rumor has already been confirmed by the Don himself back in 2009
Stic.man and Jay E are both far better lyricists than Nas, he should be glad that Electronica didn’t decide to jump on a track and murder Nas, not only lyrically, but also vocally. And WHY do yall KEEP making excuses for this fake ass midget? That is not the first time he has been slandered like that. Point being, yall would SHIT on other rappers if they were the subject of critique here, so don’t tell others to give Nas passes for it.
Guess that’s why Untitled was so wack
All I’m a say is Ja Rule writes music for everyone.
he write for a lot of rappers and he wrote a couple albums for big L, 2pac and big.. ja rule be doing it!
okay so what? Nas has co-written the album with Jay and Stic.
Well, he took credit for other people’s thoughts. And that after guys tried to shit on Jay for bigging up BIG through his rhymes. Pitiful, just pitiful. Hip Hop took another loss for it’s hypocritical fans.
History on Dream Hampton and rappers having co-write (not ghostwriters).
Dream Hampton got her start writing about the freindship of Pac and Big. Even back then she came of groupish.. With tht said…
the history of colabo…
Ready 2 Die was in fact co-produce by 2pac.. 2 pac admitted he never write bigs ryhme but he gave ideas. Pac words Biggie stole from him his swagger and delivery. In true hip hop fan can hear Pac style on Everyday struggle. big had his own style and was bette lyrcist but admit pac did give him alot of ideas on his album. Pac stated he had to change MATW album up a bit to sound different.
Pac took Bad Azz song crazy for himself who bad azz glady gave to Pac.. But bad azz did not write pac verse.. Hooks yes. Pac and Nas been seen writing in the studio and bring in the studio a library of notebook of lyrics.
Jay Z was accused of steeling Young Chris candence and delivery. Young Chris stated they all bounce ideas off each other and stole bit and pieces from each other. jay z has spent Nas, big pac and Em lines in his raps.
Nas imo did have help from Jay E on QGT.. I thnk Nas is the master of taking your style and doing it better thn.. ie Kool G Rap and Rakim who Nas created his style. For the record Jay E jack The world is your and did brillant job. Blasphemy for Dream to defame Nas to defend Jay Z. Jay E help produce and co-write hooks and maybe a few bars. ALL RAPPERS DO THAT.Thts why the co-write credit,
Hip Hop is the one genere were generally the artist writes his owns song. not rock n roll, r n b and etc..
Game is famous for jumping on calbo and spit like his counter part…
Simply 2 much you tube of nas and jay z in the studio writting or creating their own rhymes… No Idea, Damien marley, Premier, Nore have all stated there fustration of watch nas write lyrics for hour spit and craziest verse they ever heard and nas saying he don’t like it and write the ryhme over several times.. Nas and Jay Z ARE GHOSTWRITERS.. Have they had help with a bar or 2. of coarse. Hooks.. Of coarse.. production and ideas of coarse..
Too Cormega fans.. yea cormega probalby gave nas the line “life a bitch, but god forgive the bitch tht divorce me.” But thts not ghostwriting. Co-write credit., Mega is no where near as skilled as Nas to have ghost written for him.
too Nas credit 10 albums in not one album sounds the same. I believe Nas, Jay Z, Pac, Wayne and Pac had alot help with lyrics..bar here. a bar there.. But mainly have had major contribution rappers who help compuse the music. Jay Electronica and Sticman are producer who also raps.. Unlike Dre, Puffy and a few other who have artist clearly written the 3 verses of 16 bars.. As far jay e rapper over queens get the money Dream.. He was recorded a verses for the album so of coarse you would hear those lost verses.. It’s called a COLABO.L. Dream keeping DREAMING.. BIT6HES ALWAYS KEEPING UP SHIT.
And it’s patethic, I don’t get the credit I deserve that’s why I hate doin interviews
But I don’t sweat it study long study wrong
My man Deion said Nas overthink the songs he writin
Nas – Back When
Of course !!
This does not discredit Nas as a writer … it just means there are certain subjects that one is strong at and others less concentrated
We all are like that…there are subjects we are strong at and could write a solid piece about and there are where we are less.
I myself can debate with anymore on matters related to Science, Biology, Maths, English, Chemistry, but come weaker on matters related to History, Geography, Politics and Sports
Nas lyrically is stronger on Poetry, painting pictures, word play, personification/ double entendres, but when it comes to true politics like the concept of Untitled album, Dead Prez is much stronger when it comes to opinion or knowledge of. We all know that is Dead Prez’ territory, hence nice enlisted them to work on that album
Nas is a pseduo-intellectual dumb fuck.
^ You mad faggot? lol So sound like he fucked your wife or something.
Were’ll ya’ll abused as children, ya’ll always quick to name call, ‘dumb fuck’, ‘dick riding’
bring fourth valid arguments gentlemen and stop failing to articulate yourselves hiding behind labeling…expose yourselves
Why is Nas such a sensitive subjects to you????
^^ You’re saying this, defending the guy who wrote Ether, right?
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If Nas were to do a scientific album tomorrow, it would only make sense for him to recruit Canibus in studio session, if the theme were to be historic, then Ras Kass would be preferred choice; if theme were to be story telling no guessing Slick Rick would be #1 choice, and lastly if theme were to be biblical, then Killah Priest would be preferred choice
Each rapper has his strongest and weak points. Canibus is strong in scientific matters and fictional rhymes/ story telling, but weak at freestyling
People like Jay Z can’t spit science to save their lives, all he does is brag, if not talking about a drug life he never lived lol, or talking about how his pops was never there…
Jay’s drug past has been backed by several thorough street niggas, don’t confuse him with Nas’ made up life. And yes, he showed Nas his first Tec. He doesn’t need to switch between drugdealer/poet/philantropist/club singer whenever he needs to in order to sell. Jay’s own life is interesting enough. BTW, “Shiny Suit Theory” shits all over any Nas verse post 2001.
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Every other rapper and this headline = getting destroyed in the comments.
Nas = Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Don’t care if he wrote his other albums, Untitled was his worst effort by far anyways. Nas don’t know shit about politics and it was blatantly obvious. Glad that he left it alone.
On the other hand, thi relevation really makes sense why Nas is scared to invite extreme lyricist to participate on his album, he’s scared of being outshined
In all sense, as a profilic lyricist Nas has built his profile to be viewed as…it only makes sense that somebody of that caliber should invite extreme lyricist like GZA, Killa Priest, Canibus, Last Emperor, Vast Aire, Rakim, Krs-One or Chino XL as features on his albums but instead he invites lyricist he can easily out do like your DMX, Ludacris, Rick Ross and Busta
Nas knows ‘You are as good as what you come up against’…til Nas enlist extreme lyricist in his albums, i don’t hold him as the best.
Probably that’s why he did not want Dead Prez to rhyme on Untitled, he knew they know the subject better than him
Nas, stop being a coward bro, and play with people your own size lyrically…Rick Ross son???? nah, we don’t believe you the best, you need more people
Step in the ring with heavyweights not lightweight lyricist….step in the ring with Ras Kass, Canibus, Chino XL, Masta Ace, Pharoah Monch, Talib Kweli and Eminem…Stop being a coward son!!!!
Be a man, and Man Up….pick somebody your own size
Nas has done a tune with Canibus dickhead…the firm, also Killer Priest and murdered him!!!
Nas has been tracks with Kool G Rap, Ghostface, Rae, Jay Z, Scarface, Prodigy in his prime, Kurupt in his prime, Scarface, Dmx, Killah Priest, Ti, Wayne, Jeezy, Ross, AZ, Game, 50 Cent (who he put on),Em, Cube, Kaan, Q Tip, inspec deck, Jada Kiss, Skill, Damien Marley, Kayne West, Rakikm,Luda, bun b, Krs 1 and Busta Ryhmes.. Ghost wrote for Will Smith Grammy album, Puffy and allegely yes Jay Electronica… do your history… Also 95% of the time he murdered everybody on this list.. No even close. Exceptions of Az, jay z and face.. No ones every had a better verse on his track..Do yur history sir… Noted I’m a Pac, Nas, Jay Z, big,face and huge ti. fan.. nO BIAS HERE. CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT..
I stopped believing in Nas when he removed his verse from ‘Desperado’
fucken coward you are only as good as who you come up against, Scarface done told you when ya’ll were doing favors
Need I forget he ghostwrote for Dr. Dre serveral times too. Nas is GHOSTWRITER. GHOSTWRITER DONOT NEED GHOST WRITER…LOL
Also Common my top 6 of alltime was bodied on Ghetto Dreams by Nas. I swear Nas get alot hate.. Nas is the equalivent of Bruce Lee.. Crused! I blame Pac. since Against All Odds Nas has been crused… i would bet a week pay that nas would murder 97% of hip hop on his lazy no inspired day with a crazy verse.. Easy money! lol
@ Kingz Life…they helped him write verses on Untitled not that they wrote it for him…its like a text book, it never written by one author but several contributors and ain’t nothing wrong with that. Dead Prez is strong in the political arena so it makes sense if they threw 2 cents of their knowledge on political matters
@ Kingz Life…Canibus murdered Nas and the whole firm crew on Desperado
Nas did not murder Killa Priest neither on ‘Crime Cardinals” or ‘Gun for Gun’…they both went in and held each end firmly
When did Nas ever rhyme along side Eminem as i all know is Eminem has only contributed beats including ‘The Cross’…which song did they collabo in?
Damien Marley murdered Nas on Distant Relative, did you hear the shit Damien was saying there son?
Pac’s verse was stronger on ‘Thugz Mansion’…Pac had a better concept/ picture than what Nas painted. Pac’s verse was filled with emotion too which is something Nas lacks most of the time he just sounds like he’s reading from his rhyme book and not gettin into character
I don’t know why you listed Jeezy, Rick Ross, 50 Cent, TI, DMX, K’Naan, Kanye West, Game, Luda, and Bun B as those are lightweight lyricist compared to Nas. They not on the same level
Commercially, the only lyricist that could bring Nas to task are Jay Z, Lupe, Talib, Mos Def, Common, Scarface, Black Thought, Papoose and Eminem.
Underground, almost every rapper underground can bring Nas to task and that’s who Nas need to step in the ring with
Metaphorically, can he outshine Chino XL?
This song lost by Hit Boi, called ‘There is no such thing as white jesus’ – the best mc to enlist on that is undoubtedly Ras Kass, and if that were the case, who do you think would come out stronger?
Nah nigga, Nas feature mc’s that are strong in a particular subject matter he’s tackling not put rnb artist on it or put people because they commercial so it makes sense for the labels. Id love that song to feature Ras Kass who’s known for ‘Nature of the Threat’ and the recent collabo with Doc Hollywood. lets see who has stronger points on the subject matter but yeah am delusion as Nas would never wanna expose his weakness to his beloved fans like that
Jay’s drug past has been backed by several thorough street niggas, don’t confuse him with Nas’ made up life. And yes, he showed Nas his first Tec. He doesn’t need to switch between drugdealer/poet/philantropist/club singer whenever he needs to in order to sell. Jay’s own life is interesting enough. BTW, “Shiny Suit Theory” shits all over any Nas verse post 2001.
He progressively talks about the same thing over and over. Drug life, Absent Pops and His Riches
Anything new he can offer?
His last offering on 3 kings, he’s bragging about the size of his daughter’s room….how does that intellectually elevate you nigga?
This is a 40yr old man we talking about not 16yr old Chief Keef….we talk our forefather who’s suppose to be a professor of rap teaching youngin’s how to rhyme instead he’s braging about wealth as if he still in his prime and new to the concept of money…he’s been rich forever and we know he’s rich, or loaded…
tell us something more constructive for our minds Jay…hip hop is a dialogue, a great debate, a community forum to express views, a school of thought
i don’t believe in Jay as long as he’s still bragging till he speaks sense like a grown as man, its Fuck JAY
@ the observer.. Agree to disagree. bun B, ti, Kaan, Kayne and Luda are very strong writers. This gets sticky when we say lyrics.. Chino Xl. Is technically a good rapper. But lacks in subject matter, flow and charisma. you hve to be complete package. too me he’s wack.
The fact of the matter as to why Jay Elec and Nas have not made a stmt is bc Nas was co-writing for Jay E mixtapes and vice versa. Jay E was to produce the whole album. Jay E got peeps here in Detroit. This is old rumor. Jay E been bragging bout how tight him and Nas is. People forget Jay E is influencd by nas.. Jay E jack The World is yours literally.. Great song.. So Nas dosent want to throw jay E under the bus. Why u think we ain’t heard album. Jay Z ain’t putting tht shit out until Nas can get back in the studio with him.. Thts on the real. No stan talk here. Untitled is great album — Dream is groupie whore who pac tossed up back in the day..
But be clear. Sticman and Jay E are good producer. So they did indeed help co-write 2 songs officaily on the album. On Queen Gets the Money Nas does not sound like Jay E (Huge Jay E Fan) 2 me. Just his production gives it that flavor. Nas candence and subject matter is clearly his.
Commercially, the only lyricist that could bring Nas to task are Jay Z, Lupe, Talib, Mos Def, Common, Scarface, Black Thought, Papoose and Eminem. I agree with you here.. Em and Nas did top downwith Dr. Dre for Detoxs unofficialy — which was actually written for Dre. T.I. originally on the verse. Better track with Nas and T.I. spittin.. T.I brought the best out of Nas and vice versa..
Gun for gun I liked Nas verse better.. But I won’t argue wth you there. matter of opinion. Canibus destroyed everybody in the late 90’s. I acutually heard nas verse to Desperado on Mixtape.. Was the 2nd best verse.. Scarface got nas on Favor for a favor but got handled on Hip Hop. Jay Z verse on Black Republican was jus a bit better. Stellar verse by both. But thn Jay got handled on Sucess and I do it for hip hop. Common got edge out on Ghetto Dreams.. But him and Nas killed Why remix. Big Pun had the best verse on John Blaze but Nas was a very close 2nd. sum people think nas verse was better. Black Thought, Mos Def and Talib are guitly of wht your ascusing Nas. They rarely just on tracks with big dogs.
Nas has done track standout verses with most of the industry. Also Ross is solid lyricist..Beside jay z, biggie,em and pac… Nas is the one artist most people prefer not to rap with.. Nas will make you think bout a new career.. But you make good points. But Nas has done tracks with most of the top dogs. The question I ask you of the people you named on that list is why hve they shyed away from the big calobs.
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I stopped believing in Nas when he removed his verse from ‘Desperado’
fucken coward you are only as good as you who you come up against
fuckin liar nas never rapped on desperado.nas has been on records with bosses like scarface,so ur point is 0 fool
you don’t know your hip hop son…he removed his verse on Desperado, then it resurfaced on ‘Desperado 2’
go to YouTube and listen to it if you ain’t heard it yet still Nas failed to outshine Canibus. Nas sounded like he was trying to hard and failed
didnt he outshine face on dj khaleds hip hop fool u domt know ur hip hop.
Exactly. Dude is a goddamn liar and is scared of true competition.
NAS LOST.jay z is the greatest rapper ever
true that boo boo!!!
Dream Hampton should never have the opportunity to collect a check or get paid in anyway as a Reporter, Journalist, HipHop Historian/ Consultant… or writing period!!!
I will boycott her continuing a career in the fashion for as long as I can remember this bullshit she just pulled. Dream = BIG+Jay Z ThroatJunkie… she don’t break stories she just gets broken in & again&again…
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lol…u lame
way too much time on your hands
go watch some porn instead
All this will just push Nas to go even harder on the mic. Some good music will come out of this.
i cant believe people really believe this…yah actually giving this bullshit rumor legs…this is so lame…jay already said he aint never ghost write for nas..nas is the greatest mc..hands down..if people really believe this ghost writing shit then thats sad
what’s about believing it and not? did you see nas in the studio writing supposed tracks? no? then fuck out of here.
this bitch name is dream for a reason..this bitch had a dream that nas had a ghostwriter..lol
Nas should collab with Ja Rule.
Ja Rule wrote all of these songs, and that’s the truth.
Ja Rule should sign Nas.
Little rappers like Nas should collaborate with giants like Ja Rule.
Ja Rule writes songs for a lot of niggaz, never thought he wrote this album for Nas, wow.
CONFIRMED: JAY WROTE THE INTRO TRACK FOR “UNTITLED”
NAS TRIED TO WRITE TO THE JAY’S BEAT BUT COULDN’T GET THE RHYTHM TO IT. SO JAY WAS LIKE, IT SHOULD SOUND LIKE THIS. NAS LIKED THE RHYME AND SPIT IT.
HOWEVER, THAT IS THE ONLY TIME NAS HAS EVER DONE THAT. STIC MAN AND JAY ELECTRONICA DID NOT WRITE HALF THAT ALBUM. UNTRUE.
Whatcha talkin’ ’bout? Ja Rule wrote all of his albums.
Told y’all Dylan is the greatest
I heard Interscope just dropped Slim the Mobster because of 50 Cent. Is that true?
Yes that is true, but a real nigga is gonna sign Slim now. Ja Rule.
If you read the whole article, you would no the real deal.. All these hater comments is just ridiculous..
Kings Life well said! but i do wanna see more of the extreme lyricist on Nas albums.. thats my dude but accident murders was ruined by big body ross, i can see him putting him on their cuz he is popular and might get you a few more sales, thats the shit i don’t like lol.. I think he could step it up more..
For real y’all. Ja Rule needs to bring hip hop back along with Nas.
Yo!… read the interview with stic.man on Vibe website. He explains all that need to be explained. Hey DX it would have been nice if you did some actual investigating instead of just putting something up on your site to break the news first. Actual reporting means to find a credible source or two (in this case stic.man) and print FACTS! This site would have looked way better in my eyes if you didn’t report anything until THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED COMMENTED. Vibe online looks pretty good to me! Hey chicken little the sky is falling.
You really that naive to think they would say it and expose the one who pays them? Damn, yall some retarded ass motherfuckers.
Surprise surprise, HHDX was so quick to post a rumour but slow to post an authentic interview by Stic.man via vibe. I guess yall still mad u Nas aint still give u dat interview.
http://www.vibe.com/article/dead-prez%E2%80%99-sticman-dismisses-ghostwriting-nas-%E2%80%9C-didn%E2%80%99t-happen%E2%80%9D
THAT’S WHY NAS SAID HIP HOP IS DEAD…
I FUCK HIP HOP’ NAS FT SCARFACE AND DJ KHALED
this site is turning into a Nas hate site. Hip hop dx was very quick to post this shit on the front page but jay electronica put that tweet out there and hip hop dx still has not updated , this article to add what he had to say, smh I think there is a trend developing here (they gave life is good 4 stars,should have got 5) but I understand ya’ll love Nas & Hate Nas for the same reason which is because he is the best
HHDX is just stating facts, Nas sucks.
How can you even say that Nas sucks there’s no Mc alive that can take him on
Exacty. Nigga is pure garbage and now it turns out that he don’t even write his own shit.
These ninjas are lying, of course they wrote the whole album.
LET IT GO CLOWNS
RUMOR IS DEAD
A true “ghostwriter” MUST deny it, otherwise they wouldn’t be a ghostwriter.
Whats funny about this whole situation is how much it’s exposed the obsession die hard Nas fans have with Jay-Z.
Story has nothing to do with Jay at all, but you wouldnt know it by the number of times he’s been mentioned in these threads.
If Nas is the undisputed #1 why do yall spend so much time looking over his shoulder and shooting down at the competition?
The story is connected to Jay. Have you been paying attention at all? Dream Hampton ducked a question as to why Jay-z can’t make a concept album with substantial subject matter and threw Nas under the bus. If Dream wasn’t asked the question about Jay-z we wouldn’t be having this discussion right now.
I am probably what most consider as Nas stan but I cannot deny the power Jay had with Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint. I’ll never use my endless admiration for Nas to discredit Jay-Z because that would be unfair. However, what does separate the two is their approach to making music and the topics they discuss. Completely different, Nas talks about the problems, ills of street life and the world whereas Jay-Z celebrates the revolution of making it out of the street and making money. Hip-Hop needs that balance.
I never comment on this site because it’s filled with brain dead trolls. But, I completely agree with you. That’s exactly how I feel. Nas to me is the G.O.A.T. and I was very anti-Jay-Z during the height of their issues. One day I decided to listen to Reasonable Doubt. I said to myself..
“If RD doesn’t move me.. no other Jay album will”. Once I listened to it.. I had to listen to the entire catalog. I’ll say this.. Jay-Z has to be one of the most consistent rappers of all time. But, I’ll always give the nod to Nas because he switched up his formula so many times.. just to give himself a challenge. Nas’ high points are untouchable.
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seriously though, i’m a little disappointed. they weren’t in the liner notes of the album though, i’ve skimmed through it several times. is this for sure?
yes they are. Under their gov names, not stage names. they are credited.