Shared experiences between humans are a natural occurrence. This is why I never tripped too much about the current upsurge in white rappers. At this point, Hip Hop has reached an unprecedented amount of mainstream acceptance. Therefore, who isn’t surprised when any ethnic group finds some enjoyment in one very specific part of the culture? As Americans living in a “post-racial” society barriers have been broken on both sides. It’s truly a beautiful thing. 2015 has proven to be an interesting year for white rappers, as well. Action Bronson, Mac Miller and even Yelawolf’s Confederate Flag loving self all have shown points of view that are fairly authentic. Hell, Riff Raff‘s self-aware take on Houston Hip Hop is entertaining and harmless, at least on the surface. This year has also produced the rise of two white rappers who represent a very ugly trend formulating. That’s right ladies and gentlemen, Stitches and Slim Jesus. A first in Hip Hop history, a few white rappers are actively participating in a system that murders black men and women without understanding the causes of where the violence in that form of music comes from.
But why? An article last year in the Miami New Times revealed a past for Stitches a.k.a. Phillip Katsabanis that totally puts Rick Ross’s parole officer narrative to utter shame. Born of Cuban and Greek descent, Katsabanis allegedly comes from a fairly lovely background. Outside of some very insignificant offenses as a child, he’s yet to form an arrest record as an adult. Allegedly, he has ties to Chicago’s Almighty Imperial Gangsters Nation through his befriending of amateur boxer Leonel Carrera. For someone who claims to be interlocked in the criminal world, he married a judicial assistant and Paris Hilton’s My New BFF contestant Erica Duarte. The two would literally give birth to a Baby Gap model. Real gangsta shit, right? From the looks of things, the only white Stitches is selling is oppression, racial guilt and possibly smallpox(shout out to Soren Baker for that one). For someone beginning their rap career as Lil Phill, he’s grown into a parody with a loyal, mainly white fanbase. And now he’s taking shots at The Game over authenticity. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Following the success of “Drill Time,” Hamilton, Ohio native Slim Jesus went on Vlad TV and openly admitted to not being about that action. This comes after threatening to murder, sell drugs and other degenerate actions toward people who are presumably African American. Of course, like most blacks unaware of their own self-destruction, he’s managed to have a few black men follow behind him like props. It’s interesting that Slim Jesus would find inspiration from a music essentially birthed by how crazy Southside Chicago has become over the years. We’re talking about a city featuring one of the worst school systems in the country, a significantly high unemployment rate and an extremely racist Chicago Housing Authority that contributes to the high crime rate. The likes of Chief Keef, Lil Reese and everyone else in between are mere symptoms of a very serious problem that white kids like Slim Jesus have been removed from.
So why do rappers like Stitches and Slim Jesus exist? The answer may be a lot more complicated than one wants to realize. I get it, Hip Hop is old enough for many to find attachment to a variety of eras and subgenres. Gangsta rap isn’t any different. But, there’s a level of reality that goes beyond Hip Hop and that’s something both artists aren’t going to care much about. White privilege and cultural appropriation has reared its head in the worst possible ways. Not only is the culture itself up for grabs but so is a lifestyle that’s destroyed families and broken up communities. Watching the “Drill Time” video last month, my paranoid self thought this was another tactic for white folks to join in all the fun black-on-black violence brings. I was called crazy and I believed it before letting the thoughts go. After watching Stitches use the n-word like he’s this year’s V-Nasty, I’m thoroughly convinced this is another way Hip Hop is being used against its creators.
Ural Garrett is a Los Angeles-based journalist and HipHopDX’s Senior Features Writer. When not covering music, video games, films and the community at large, he’s in the kitchen baking like Anita. Follow him on Twitter @Uralg.
Fuck u ural retard
Good work. Most people these day hurt their head if they think too much and would rather thoughtlessly consume this garbage, ignorance-feeding bullshit. Keep these articles coming, force-feed these fuckers some reality.
“So why do rappers like Stitches and Slim Jesus exist?”
They don’t, or at least outwith this site they don’t. I have never seen them mentioned anywhere else, stop giving these no talent, non entities web space.
these guys are clowns of course you can also look at chiraq and detroit rap music and it’s just about as ridiculous. Look at dex osama. the guy went to walled lake high school which is mostly rich white kids. He made 2-3 min songs where all he did was talk about guns and make threats, then the art imitates life and he gets shot and bled out until he expired.
They both are weak
why does everything have to be white privilege or race based if it were a black metal group would we be saying the same thing, hell we dont even back the black groups, at the end of the day people just enjoy the imagery of gangsta from our praise of el chapo and escobar to capone and gotti for some reason the lower economic classes wanna gravitate toward a hyper violent lifesyle, they claim they dont know any other way or have no idea but the bentleys benzes and lambo’s they floss tell the truth, they do know , they can chop up a brick but cant do fractions GTFOH. putting gold chains and hoodies on dont make it more authentic and moral every one wants to be gangsta until they about 36 and assed out. from rock to punk to hiphop to edm and rockabilly there has always been a more grimey side of life ,these doots just wanna be “extra” and its working. to be angry at white appropriation of black violence seems retarded, cuz when theses dudes be fucking with them white girls aint nobody saying shit
White privilege is the new buzz word like calling someone a racist but they couldn’t prove whether you were racist or not nor could you prove otherwise. Now this can just blanket statement any white person no matter the upbring, background or condition. The main benefactors of white privilege were the rich slave owner families which made up about 7% (all races included) of Americans at it’s peak.
It’s entertainment you fucktard. Both of them suck obviously but it’s fun to watch. Not that 90% of any color rapper has done any of the things they rap about. End of story drops mic.
What are you going to do next, write an article explaining wrestling is fake too?
Both suck
Seems like a parody
F that racist post. Absolutely focused on race, not the content. Promoting violence until now was OK unless white folks become violent too. Now that’s racist and privileged. Gtfo
this is written like a bad high school essay.
Stitches is Cuban why do poeple keep say they white, flip flopping shit like a mofo
he’s a white cuban of spanish descent with no african admixture, and also half greek. You realize Kendall is a white-cuban suburb, right? Most miami cubans left cuba because they wanted to join their white brothers in florida. It’s a place where you can be white and speak spanish without being discriminated against….but they can discriminate against blacks and even black cubans. Learn history and biology.
because hes white Cuba is a place
Rappers like Stitches and white Jesus exist because of sites like this. They’re talentless culture vultures that will make it because of the new generation of white kids that assume this is what hip hop is about..
Real talk homie. Never heard of this stitches character. But just another cat with tattoos, trying to look the part.
So its doesnt matter that there talking about killing people in general like 98% of most hip hop but cause there talking about killing “black people” so if they said there were killing white people or mexicans or asians then this wouldnt be talked about right? GTFOH! Go listen to Dead Prez there murk white folks on the reg on records. Whoever wrote this article is a fuckin lame. I also think its funny how The Game talks about killing muthafuckers in every album but now cause some white dude talked shit to him on I.M hes a crazy pyscho lol you muthafuckers are dumb ass shit. Im so glad im not in your level fuckin squares
Who cares what color these two are?
The real question is, who the fuck is listening
To this shit ? Both clowns. At least slim whatever is a kid. That stitches dude tho…
Really?
URINE GARRETT SUCKS DICK MAN
That’s right expose stitches for the corny fame seeking bitch he really is
Both are corney as hell. Yellow wolf with that confederate flag shit really symbolized why some black ppl have a problem with white mc’s gaining traction in hip-hop. His love for that flag is counter to the hip-hop movement. Black ppl we have to wake up because many of the white MC’s are making better music these days and lyrically their content is even better with the exception of Riffraff.
Say man I didnt even knowww about that confederate flag thing!An I’m a Yelawolf fan! smh But you hit the nail on the head from a mc/fan point of view. I go to soundcloud and the white boys be getting it with lyrics,sound, and creative wise. While my people get stuck in the easy street music for money and fame instead of respect and longevity.
I love the game, stitches, slim jesus, ice cube, ice-t, mc hammer, vanilla ice and 2live crew. How about that?
So much wrong with this article don’t know where to start. You guys are the only one taking these slim Jesus type rappers seriously. You guys making them famous nd shit. Plus rappers be talking about all kinds of crazy shit doesn’t mean it’s true just because thyre black. Hiphopdx hire some new writers or I might have to only read 2dopeboys
URAL GARRETT is a racist. His first two sentences tell it all.
@Ejay… I too am fed up with this site. HipHopDX is really starting to loose their integrity.
They never said all black rappers were real. He threw a Jab at Rick Ross’ credibility as well. He said we are BEGINNING A NEW TREND where WHITE rappers who have admitted to not being about that life, portraying they are ! This hasn’t Really Happened before ! This is not Eminem bashing gays or Miller talking about Donald Trump… This is Gangster rap being acted out… and just like in black communities, the entertainers go home, everything else stays to cause destruction
Not sure why I read these editorials. They just bounce around twitter topics in the form of paragraphs without ever really touching on anything useful.
A Very Good Read !!! understandable why some ppl may be mad or not get the point to reading this. It will only be a problem once the acts of violence play into fruition, and the music is dubbed the cause
The only thing I didn’t like about this article is when you used the term “post racial society” and gave props to Action Bronson, Riff Raff, Mac Miller, and Yelawolf for being “authentic”. People (especially black people) are always worried about protecting white people’s fragile feelings. Even in an article like this that is trying to acknowledge white peoples bullshit, you felt the need to write something at the beginning so the white males wouldn’t feel so bad about it. lol It’s like the random white savior characters you see in movies where all the white people are racist and evil. The writers get scared the whites will get mad if they hit them with too much truth, so they stick a white savior or two in to make whites more comfortable. I hate that. I’m not impressed
On behalf of Black Men with common sense…. THANK YOU URAL!! Fuck all you assclowns defending these two minstrels. The point of teh article was to point out how its becoming acceptable for a WHITE MALE to participate in “music” that promotes Black genocide. He wasnt saying Black artists arent equally as bad for promoting that lifestyle either. But to be a white dude from the burbs and then put on a costume of a gangsta rap is straight offensive. You guys write all this shit trying to put down his article when it has more thought and articulation than either of these guys rhymes. Its bad enough my culture is being ripped apart by people who arent really rooted in its origins but to have the vultures participate in reinforcing stereotypes of being a “black gangsta from the hood” is disturbing. Im afraid for whats next….
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hek718, well said. I couldn’t agree more. It’s a shame what hip hop culture has become. It’s absolutely embarrassing now. I remember when hip hop culture used to be cool, but it ain’t so cool anymore.
Article #9 hiphopdx has posted about slim Jesus. I’m pretty sure this website backs slim Jesus up more then any other petson(s). Yall are corny af
You push these wack fucks on ur site daily then bitch about what they say haven’t seen a comment that liked and wasn’t trolling about them so why do keep pushing them? nobody gives a fuck about them or your generalization of gangsta rap ural
White people trying to rap and act hard its funny .you would think they been in slavery..all they do is steal our style…they still can’t dance or be like us.smfh .i beat the shit out of stitches and m and m and slim jesus and kid rock.etc. this comptown home of the body bag!!!
You would think the black community would be more concerned with the black “rappers” that actually live out this nonsense, instead of worrying about the 3 white people who act it out on youtube. Still wondering why y’all are stuck in the ghetto, cuz you focus on everybody’s flaws but your own. These donkey dick white rappers aren’t the ones selling crack to and killing your own people. The black community has embraced this fuckery as “real” until it works against them, then it’s racist to assume. The black community should give zero fucks about these whiteboys, but then they’d have to focus on their own flaws and that’s a big no-no
yup Black community has to fix it’s own black rappers do it the whites will follow
Not when white kids are the main consumers of hip-hop. And real rappers get overlooked because fools only want fake bs. There are white gangsters. Some even rap. But the difference between telling your story & shilling a fake one at obviously huge. People really from the hood don’t act like that regardless of race.
Both of them suck but I think Eminem is good
All the salty white people on here have completely missed the point. The article is very clearly stating that Slim Jesus and Stitches are phonies. They emulate and regurgitate this gangster lifestyle AND they are white. If you look at a white rapper who was from the hood and was really living that life, he wouldn’t be a phony. It doesn’t condone black (or latin) gangster rapper’s ignorance or the violence but it does see that they are a product of their environment. Big difference. But yeah, being a white racist on a hip hop site shows the levels of idiocy and lack of self awareness that almost all of these comments show.
Wow. This is some hot trash right here. I would be embarrassed if I were you. Also, let me preface this by saying I have no clue who these 2 rappers are you’re talking about, and I have been losing faith/interest in Hip-Hop slowly for the last 5-10 years. Yes, call me the cranky old fuck who derides all this BS out now and pines for the “good ‘ol days.” “A first in Hip Hop history, a few white rappers are actively participating in a system that murders black men and women without understanding the causes of where the violence in that form of music comes from.” WTF is this referring to? Are you talking about rap? Hip-Hop? A system that murders black men and women? I don’t know what the fuck you are trying to say. “revealed a past for Stitches a.k.a. Phillip Katsabanis that totally puts Rick Rossâs parole officer narrative to utter shame. Born of Cuban and Greek descent, Katsabanis allegedly comes from a fairly lovely background. Outside of some very insignificant offenses as a child, heâs yet to form an arrest record as an adult.” So, to be a real rapper, you need a record as long as you are tall?! Jesus, you’re just perpetuating the stereotype. If this were a black rapper with a good past, would you be saying the same shit? You know – most rappers are not actually gangsters and drug dealers and murderers. Would it make you happier if they were? So then you can feel good about listening to it, because it is “real?” Does it make you feel better listening to another rapper talking about “killing niggas?” “the only white Stitches is selling is oppression, racial guilt and possibly smallpox(shout out to Soren Baker for that one).” So if he sells drugs, he’s cool. Got it. He’s white, so he is the oppressor. Oh, and yeah, let’s throw in some shit some Europeans did to Native Americans hundreds of years ago too, because he’s white enough. This whole article just screams: “white people are taking our music!” Because black people are the ones killing niggas and selling drugs, black people should be the only ones who can rap about it. Music is an art, and often times people aren’t always singing (rapping) about their lives in it. Hip-hop is dead.
Im Guessing None of You Know What “White” is or Isnt. Although “Black” or “White” are not Ethnicities or Nationalities, Ignorant & Uneducated People Still Use These Racist and Colonialist Words in reference to Human Beings That Are Clearly All of The Same Race, Which Is The Human Race. Cuba is a Part of “The Americas” and Cubans Are of Moorish Descent, which is African, Native American and Spanish. Also, Greece… Centrally Located at The Crossroads of Europe, Asia, & Africa, Greeks are a Mixture of European, Asiatic & African Lineage. Surely, Stitches isnt “White”. Greece was also a part of the Turkish / Ottoman / Moorish Empires, Collectively Known As The Holy Moorish Empire. Or Plainly, The Moors. Although Mr. Stitches Most Likely Doesnt Know it? He is what you would call a Moor. He Aint ” White “. Yall Can Claim Slim As White If You Want. They Both Are Gimmicks Either Way. But Hey? They Gettin Money, So Fuck It. Thats The Main Reason For All The Hate, Beside Them Both Being Ass Cheeks.
Wow. This is some hot trash right here. I would be embarrassed if I were you. Also, let me preface this by saying I have no clue who these 2 rappers are you’re talking about, and I have been losing faith/interest in Hip-Hop slowly for the last 5-10 years. Yes, call me the cranky old fuck who derides all this BS out now and pines for the “good ‘ol days.”
“A first in Hip Hop history, a few white rappers are actively participating in a system that murders black men and women without understanding the causes of where the violence in that form of music comes from.”
WTF is this referring to? Are you talking about rap? Hip-Hop? A system that murders black men and women? I don’t know what the fuck you are trying to say.
“revealed a past for Stitches a.k.a. Phillip Katsabanis that totally puts Rick Ross’s parole officer narrative to utter shame. Born of Cuban and Greek descent, Katsabanis allegedly comes from a fairly lovely background. Outside of some very insignificant offenses as a child, he’s yet to form an arrest record as an adult.”
So, to be a real rapper, you need a record as long as you are tall?! Jesus, you’re just perpetuating the stereotype. If this were a black rapper with a good past, would you be saying the same shit? You know – most rappers are not actually gangsters and drug dealers and murderers. Would it make you happier if they were? So then you can feel good about listening to it, because it is “real?” Does it make you feel better listening to another rapper talking about “killing niggas?”
“the only white Stitches is selling is oppression, racial guilt and possibly smallpox(shout out to Soren Baker for that one).”
So if he sells drugs, he’s cool. Got it. He’s white, so he is the oppressor. Oh, and yeah, let’s throw in some shit some Europeans did to Native Americans hundreds of years ago too, because he’s white enough.
This whole article just screams: “white people are taking our music!” Because black people are the ones killing niggas and selling drugs, black people should be the only ones who can rap about it. Music is an art, and often times people aren’t always singing (rapping) about their lives in it.
Hip-hop is dead.
You’re an idiot who has totally missed the point.
I couldn’t agree more. Why does violence need to be the topic? You know what’s hard to me? A man working 2 jobs and doing everything he can to support his family. Or an activist forming groups and setting ideas in motion to help end poverty in their neighborhood. A woman raising her kids on her own and going to school. Rap is entertaining. Period. I love breaking bad but I’m not claiming to cook meth. Yeah I sold some weed and pills when I was younger. Couple small charges but I realized I was fucking up my life and I started talking to my friends about improving their situation and we all got better over time. I lived on both sides of the richest white hoods to the hardest Hispanic and black hoods and I fit in everywhere because people all want the same things and I know how to relate. But I digress, race is unimportant. When we stop promoting negativity, we will have peace. Which is what everyone wants deep down.
Agree, stitches may be a lot but he’s certainly not white. Anyway in my opinion it’s the wrong réaction to make a black vs white thing out of This. These guys are Just worshipping a culture of violence and crime which – like it or not – appeals to members of all ethnical backgrounds nowadays. Sex, drugs and peace.
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sorry but I think this article is very poor in backing itself, very bad comparisons, i think you tried to play the race card and it didn’t work too well. The issue should be that there are many rappers that claim thug/gangster but they are not, including some of our favourites ice cube, nas, rick ross, the list is endless. I actually respect slim jesus for making it perfectly clear that he´s not a thug but loves that chicago trap music. has for stiches, he´s calling out Game, he claims he´s bout it, well…time will tell.
You sound white …you dont know shit about the streets ..let alone about gangster rap.. white people trying to act like they going to kill another black in rap wtf? you need to mind your biz kkkeep listening to blake sheldon ..
I spent way too much time looking up Stitches after this. He claims he is super hard (he is big as fuck at least) and says “nigga” WAAAAYYYY too much for a white dude. I’m not gonna act like I don’t let it fly if I’m talking shit with the bros, but damn he says it non stop. Around a lot of black people. With Kevin Gates. And no one is putting him in check. He screams FUCK A JOB in his sons face as a joke. He raps about cocaine like he still sells it super regularly. I honestly am struggling to understand how this guy has gained so much traction. And thats before the whole Kylie Jenner/Tyga/Game stuff. What is wrong with people that they like this guy?
thats why he gets away with it.. He diss Game, Jezzy, Tyga(who cares lol), and the industry like this? and he’s barely 6ft tall.. no where near Kimbo Slice status, so i wouldnt call him big .. Game should give homie hands.. if Game have any .. but this dude is out of line and is getting away with it smh .. shame
Stitches is Cuban. Wtf r u talkin bout? Never throughout history has a cuban been considered “white” even if he is mixed. Straight dumbass. With that logic, J Cole must be a white rapper as well.
you must dont understand the meaning its a black or white world? He’s cuban mixed with white.. making him white.. Cole and Logic are mixed with black. which makes them black.. its as stupid as these dumb fucs being allowed to make money in our industry.. smh sad .. but whats worst is these dumb ass blacks in the video as well as these well known artists backing them ..thats NIGGAS for u.. dumb as fuck .. not the BLACKS.. the NIGGAS
He’s a white guy from a Cuban background in the same way Louis CK is a white guy from a Mexican background. There are people from a variety of ethnic backgrounds in Cuba in much the same way there are in the US and virtually every country in the world. Read a damn book.
Out of curiosity, then what is a half black / half white considered?
Most rappers are about as real as pro wrestlers, but you all think just because they’re black they must be authentic? What a joke. How horrible that some white dudes would pretend to be hard… Guess what your favorite rapper is pretending too.
Don’t even start to think this Slim Jesus is “hard”. I’ve lived in Hamilton for 20 years. This kid has a bit of rap skill but is absolutely not from the street. He is more of an Xbox gangster. The West Side of Hamilton is the upscale side of our city.
Hamilton has major issues with drugs and its mainly heroin. We are considered Hamiltucky. We get the ones rejected from Kentucky.
Since the media wants this boy to blow up the Hip Hop scene please include in your writings that there has been an increase of gun violence and race crimes in our city since you’ve put him in writing. A recent Hamilton High School lockdown occurred with threats of shooting students and the kid referenced Slim Jesus as his idol on his FB page.
I’m a white male in his 40’s that has forgot more about rap than this kid knows.
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Slimjeus is no gangster it’s sad he raping about his fantasy to be a gangster when he s not about dat but he does have good rap voice and I heard his second single on u tube and it blows he should rap Wat he’s about trying to be something he’s not hel never be no eminem
Stiches is an absolute clown…
I am in no way defending these two rappers. But this article is whack as hell. I listened to slim Jesus drill time and stitches brick in your face. And nowhere do I see where they are talking about killing black males! Just another editor trying to stir the pot for publicity. If a white rapper is talking about killing and murder, he must be targeting the other races. The other race that they obviously admire. Gtfoh. That’s contradiction in itself. African Americans defend hip hop as being cultaral attribute. Like Cubans, Jamaicans, and other ethnicities are allowed but whites are a virus. You may hate to admit it, but even these two are better than some of this “new age, modern rap” these black artist are putting out. Watch hopsin “no words” and then tell me he’s murdering black males and the culture.
I dont understand why the genre as a whole has to be so violent. In the NWA days they were talking about their environment but most of these modern artists dont come from that life style. They need to bring the real authenticity back to hip hop.
Ural shut the fuck up you’re ignorant and alway try to say how the white mans keeping a brother down smh
Dear ,
I would like to start off by saying I hope this letter finds you, your family & friends in good health.
My name is Pavel Nudel aka POS Brooklyn. I am an upcoming underground Hip-Hop artist from Ukraine.
Since I was young I was privileged enough to grow around great music and along the way meet awesome people who were involved in song writing, music production & engineering work. Its been a good learning experience for me and my involvement with these artists has always been positive. I
mean that’s what music is about right? Getting together and creating something beautiful for the world to relate to and enjoy.
Though lately, I have seen an ugly side were artists have been either fighting each other or even killing one another. Is this what music has come down to? Let’s take Slim Jesus for instance, here is a young man trying to make something for himself with music. He’s not trying to hurt or kill anyone and yet some people are trying to condemn him because he’s portraying something that he’s not. What about the movies where actors and actresses play a role where they are bank robbers or killers? It’s not real, they are just expressing their talents for us to enjoy on the screen.
With that being said, Slim Jesus has reached an audience all over the world including my country in Ukraine. This has inspired me to work on my music and try to get people to work together instead of hurting one another. We need to bring back what music is about, expressing your given talent for the world to enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z–TsuHjm30
Idgaf Stitches way better than 90% of rappers out there nowadays! His shit goes hard it’s trap/gangsta rap maybe he is playing a role, so what he makes good rap music look at drake I’m more gangster than that degrassi actor he is a life long actor he acts like a thug and someone’s writes his music drake was already in the industry he’s a sell out Stitches I think is real for the mos to part he really came from the bottom and u don’t hear him on tv or the radio cuz he ain’t sell out