Everyone is critical of Martin Shkreli and Wu-Tang. Everyone is wrong. Also, G.U.N. stops through and breaks down Dallas Hip Hop.
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Everyone is critical of Martin Shkreli and Wu-Tang. Everyone is wrong. Also, G.U.N. stops through and breaks down Dallas Hip Hop.
Why should it be celebrated ? They made an album that none of us will be allowed to listen. If this was some new school rapper, the discussion would be full of 90s “real” niggas bashing it and callin it fake and a lame mainstream move. But since it’s the wu, everything is fine. I used to fuck with them, but now i just say fuck them !
It’s the opposite of a main stream move… It can’t go mainstream lol. It’s a smart hustle.
RZA’s point wasn’t to tickle his own balls about the greatness of Wu-Tang Clan. It was to make a statement about how just because music is easily accessible, doesn’t mean it should be disposable. So he created a project so rare that it would be valued in the millions because of its exclusivity. Mission accomplished. First album of any genre ever.
You know who else is a smart hustler? Shkreli. Maybe we’ve had enough of being hustled and the idolization of money.
They stopped making music for the fans, and sold it to one of the most corrupt people in the world. If you think this should be celebrated, fuck you.
Lots and lots of hate, but I got to tell you, I’m fascinated by this story and I have seen more and more people on boards and blogs now thinking a little bit harder and realizing how incredible this achievement actually is. Everything they set out to do, they accomplished. They have reattached value (2 million) to music by selling it as a work of art (one piece). They sold the world’s first privatized music album. Something no one has ever done before. And they sold it to a total douche bag. And its sale got so much press, that it again put the spotlight on Shkreli’s outrageous price gouging practices. That’s doing the world a favor, not the other way around. The next day this whole issue was again being discussed in congress, Hillary Clinton decided again to tweet about it. I’m seeing everywhere, especially on Wu-Tang website forums a huge amount of disgust at Cilvaringz for coming up with this idea, and in the same breath everyone’s screaming it’s a copy and paste album with mimicky RZA beats and it probably sucks anyway. Well, if you’re so sure, then why all the fuss? Why care? Why be angry? If it was a hustle, then they just hustled the greatest cocksucker in the world. Why be mad at that? Isn’t that something to celebrate? Why the whole snitch mentality? You call yourself a Hip Hop fan? Anyone in their right mind can see that they would make far more money and get far more press selling one copy, than to go commercial en masse. Everyone here and elsewhere would’ve done the exact same thing and collected that check, I don’t care if it was Idi Ameen buying it. You don’t think absolutely disgusting people buy music? There’s a child raping animal abusing fucker right now somewhere with a Rihanna CD in his cupboard. Should Rihanna be scourged for failing to set in place a moral arbitrary system? No. That’s the name of the game, that’s selling abd buying, you don’t control shit like that. Shkreli made the highest offer and he did it in May before they even knew he was gonna pull a stunt like he did. Can’t hate on that. And they did the right thing by donating the profits to charity. RZA and Cilvaringz kept it classy. But the boards, I’ll tell you what, this has been a great achievement as much as it’s a fascinating experiment. Because the sense of entitlement from the consumer to the seller, from the fan to the artist has never been under a microscope as much as it is now. And the fact is, the results…. are nothing short of ugly. Wake up folks. We don’t own the artists we love and they don’t owe us a goddamn thing. Us buying their records is as much a form of support as their service to provide us with music is to us. It’s supposed to be a transfer of equal value. It’s not work for hire, it’s work for sale. And as long as the industry continues to head into a gigantic field of tumbleweed, your favorite artists will think of ways to make a fair return on their services. And I would bet my left testicle that every artist in the world who’s aware of this story, thought it was no more than a great story but probably wouldn’t have succeeded. And now that it actually has, and ol’ Shkreli is already plotting his next private album, those same artists are somewhere definitely considering stepping inside the realm of privatized music. The grim future of music is real my niggaz. And we have the Wu-Tang Clan to thank for again going out their ways to do something that serves as a grave warning. My two cents.
On point!
Lol @ DX’ Photoshop
I just dont get the “88 years” clause. Whats the point of that? If you buy a million dollar Piccasso they dont say hey you can hang this in your house but no one else can look it for 88 years. It should have just been a basic transaction with the owner gaining rights the master recordings ro do with as he chooses. I mean whos stopping dude from burning it onto his laptop and uploading it to a torrent site? Whats Wu gonna sue him? Lol This was a good idea just could have been executed in a more realistic manner
Wu-tang continues to be creative and intelligent. Nobody has done this before and its a truly unique situation. The 88 year clause was only for making $$$ off of it. Anybody can hear it and upload it but.just cant make money off of it. Anyway, they took the clause out. If you stupid niggaz only.had a half brain you wouldve understood that. If Jayz did this you black gypsies would be overpraising it. Yall aint nun but accomplished brown nosers
If people wanted this album they should’ve supported the last one. I didn’t because Wutang albums have fallen off years ago and this one probably isn’t any different
Sad day for hip hop when wu-tang has officially been the biggest sell out… paid by dollars of poor sick AIDs patients. honestly couldn’t think of a shittier way of selling out.
Who cares. The album is, most likely, not great anyway. RZA changed his production style up around ’96/’97 (which I didn’t like) and from what I hear, Cilvarings (mediocre producer) had a large part in creating the beats so I’m not interested in hearing the album anyway. Also, all the Wu members are way out of their primes now. You can continue wasting your precious time complaining.
“As for the Wu-Tang fans who are likely to feel queasy when they learn that he’s the owner of Once Upon a Time in Shaolin, Shkreli just shrugs. “At the end of the day,” he says, “they didn’t buy the last album or the one before that, and all they had to pay was $10.” The complaining Wu stans (that don’t actually buy albums) just got burned by that comment and can shut the fuck up now.
Best comment on here.
When they crack that shit open in 88 years they are going to laugh at it. Their albums aren’t what I would consider to be “timeless pieces of art.” To me hip hop mirrors reality and reflects what is going on today. While someone might be able to appreciate it in the future it won’t increase its value. This was a shitty move on behalf of Rza, genius in a sleazy marketing kind of way. I understand what he’s getting at. They aren’t Elton John or Eric Clapton or Paul McCartney. I am not saying that they aren’t pioneers in their field. The music just doesn’t hold the same weight. I am not even going to comment on the buyer
And you already thought somebody gon buy it just to leak it for you. Guy is a douche, but could be anybody else with 2 mil to spend. Experience tell us that was this ‘idea’ brilliant or at least just as little bit as smart as some dickriders say or wu members think it is, it would be picked up by every known label, by the way read somewhere that the whole thing already been done before, so its nothing original. And since the marketing trick has no music in it, nothing to celebrate, why should we even be interested?
I disagree.. Wu had enough fans that if they had any intelligences to go with their skills they wouldn’t need to do some publicity bullshit like this.. They are not making much off this after they cut it up, and they lost alot of respect from what I’ve been seeing.. But they’re rappers and cash rolls everything around them, that’s all they care about.
They could’ve gave the fans, once upon a time in shaolin as their final album and auctioned off, a better tomorrow. All we ever wanted was for them to make one more grimy 90’s album with that raw Wu-tang sound that made us love them in the first place. Everything about this whole story angersangers me. I still buy albums by the way.
The wu tang sold out to the devil