Grieves – Together Apart

A few years back critics attempted to box rappers who dropped a 16 about relationship problems or mental distress under the label “Emo Rap.” While well-intentioned, the term vastly undermined the significance of their music, with acts like Atmosphere and Cage connecting with fans on an intimate level that went beyond double entendre metaphors. Grieves makes this same presence felt on his latest effort Together/Apart, an album that caters to the broken and weary.

For those unaware of the 27-year-old’s earlier years, the emcee fills in all the key details with the album-opening “Lightspeed.” Over somber piano keys Grieves delves into his childhood affinity for pogs and tomagatchi’s, getting caught up in drugs and finding salvation through music. The record “Heartbreak Hotel” best displays his balance of vocal crooning and rapping as he examines a relationship gone sour while a dampened melody sets the mood. With that said, Together/Apart is not all gloom and doom. “Against The Bottom” is one of the lighter moments, with Grieves seeing the upside in the uncertainties of life.

A familiar sight from their previous project 88 Keys And Counting, Budo’s layered production provides Grieves with a sound that perfectly complements his melancholic rhymes. Flipping the theme from Bobby Hebb’s “Sunny” with Grieves’ own rendition “Sunny Side Of Hell,” Budo decorates the melody with steady drums and trumpet licks that give it a live performance vibe. “No Matter What” establishes Budo’s range of style, where a blend of piano strikes, brooding drums and guitar struts sound similar to that of West Coast mainstay DJ Khalil. The synth melody for “On The Rocks” invokes an attitude that would make Ant proud as Grieves finds solace at the bottom of his glass cup.

While it’s not a glaring omission for artists that make genuinely good mood music (read: Kid Cudi), Grieves’ lyrical prowess on Together/Apart is void of any notable acclaim. This becomes evident on the aforementioned track “No Matter What” featuring Krukid and the Brother Ali-assisted “Tragic,” where Grieves takes a backseat to more seasoned emcees. In other instances, Grieves’ penchant for descriptive lyricism on tracks like “Vice Grip” and “Wild Thing” fall short of any engaging tales that haven’t been covered about drug abuse from the Seattle emcee.

Together/Apart is musical therapy for those who find themselves caught under the pressures of life. Rarely does Grieves discover answers to these problems; however, the fact that he’s able distinguish these personal tribulations in such a compelling manner is a special trait that rightfully puts him in the same breadth as label mates Slug and Brother Ali. Suffice to say, that’s surely nothing to be depressed about.


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82 thoughts on “Grieves – Together Apart

  1. So an entire article about how dope the album was, then saying one line that he raps a song for his sister who is an addict, and it’s “the same old Seattle story”, gives it a 3.5? Tough crowd. Great album. Buy it. If you hate today’s hip hop, you will love this album.

  2. It just keeps getting better with Grieves. Didn’t hear him till he was on RSE, but his grooves, hooks and originality make this my favorite album of 2011. His stage presence is amazing, true show man. Oh yeah and he comes to Philly alot. Hip Hop heads have to feel this. Budos beats are up with RJ’s and the live instuments add a great texture.

  3. Yet another awesome throw down from Grieves and Budo. Their stage presence is incredibly captivating a must see. Mad props on this album, and to RSE for signing them!

  4. Very happy to have this album on vinyl, along with the digital download card, thanks RSE, Grieves and Budo are doing some real good stuff, keep it up.

  5. I’ve been trying to figure out what to say about Together/Apart but I am just so entranced by it I can’t even find words to do it justice.

  6. It’s the perfect mix of 88 Keys & Irreversible! Their sound just flows like none other on this album! It’s amazing.

  7. Damn… I dismissed this album. But this review, video and comments have me wanting to check for this.

    Y’all think this is better than Grieves’ previous projects?

    1. I have the album but haven’t listened to it yet to really say whether it’s better or not. But I have seen him live twice (I’m from Seattle, he does a lot of shows here). since him and Budo started work on this album and you can see a lot of postivie energy and pleasure from both Grieves, and Budo. That being said, however, Irreversible was an amazing album that will be very hard to top.

    1. no,they like lyricsts. white boy hiphop? u sound bitter.people like you like to trhwo race into shit cause u cant accept that hiphop is for all races. would u rather its about the hood,guns,and gold grills? stfu man, open your mind a bit

    2. semi true.because Psycho Realm could sell out shows night after night in l.a…kings of l.a. underground with a wutang like fan base, but will never get mentioned on these sites.any white rapper has better odds.which is fine.since 97 underground jam packed clubs with mad l.a. hoes.but anyways, you got a point.

    3. at least he’s tryin to do something different. so many emcees release the same shit over and over cuz it sells. fuck that shit! and also i think its a good thing when they have a live band when performing. anyone can mix some beats together but to make that music is much more respectable to me.

  8. Grieves may be a bit drak,or “emo”, but he brings a great sound, great lyrics, and real music courtesy of Budo. This is why I will always buy his albums cause everyone is amazing. 206!

  9. This is definitely a four+. Its not a perfect album but it is great from start to finish. They mix of hooks and verses is outstanding and Budo’s multi-layered production is a perfect fit. And it isn’t emo at all. The lyrical content is mature and thought out. If by emo you mean and not every song is about guns, cars, chains, and women then yes. Otherwise it is not emo. You just say emo because he is white. Its a race label. You don’t say it if he was black. Will we ever be able to judge music for the music only?

  10. Very good music. Grieves is an amazing writer and this deserves a 4 if not 4.5. Great album with Budo as a very talented producer. RHYMESAYERS IS THE ONLY MOVEMENT IN Hip-Hop that I care to pay attention to. QUALITY MUSIC with a message. SOO DOPE!

  11. @Nomedication

    Glad to see this on here!!1 Grieves is dope!! He will be around for a long time. Honest music, this shit is wayyyyy better than dudes who always are talkin about money they dont have or former cops turing into king ping hustlers.

  12. Honestly, I haven’t really been feeling Grieves since Irreversible. 88 Keys and Counting was a huge dissapointment for me, as was The Confessions of Mr.Modest. Irreversible had classic tracks like “I Ate Your Soul”, He Won’t Answer”, and the self-titled track “Irreversible”. Even on 88 Keys and Counting, Luckyiam had the best verse(“Identity Cards”). With Together/Apart, I was again dissapointed. It seems like Grieves and Budo have this belief that just because you use live instrumentation and sing melodically, you have a great song. Not true. Nothing on here was as catchy as “I Ate Your Soul”. There were no deep story-telling tracks to rival “He Won’t Answer”. Nothing touched me like “Rebecca” did. I’d say the best track is “Vice Grip”. It’s a bit similar to “Bottom of the Bottle”, but I really enjoy the brutal, self-deprecating honesty of the track. To be blunt, I hope Grieves works solo on his next project…and bring back the samples.

  13. i havent heard a lotta grieves but ill have to check it out. been diggin the doomtree crew and rhymesayers too.

  14. firstly I always struggle to give something out of 5, I am getting into this CD at times the choruses drive me nuts. for Me it is a 3.3 but I think it will grow on me but not enough to be on high rotation

  15. I find it insulting that this album isn’t rated at LEAST 4 stars by the editor. Look I’m all about lyrics. I love lines that make you think “wait what-OHHHH DAMN” but…the thing is Grieves’ honesty and storytelling capabilities make up for lack of punchlines. This isn’t battle rap we’re talking here, which I’m also a huge fan of, this is music. A lot of rappers can make you dance. Good rappers can make you think. Great rappers can make you feel.

  16. Guys, this album is one of the doopest of 2011. How can you not see that?? The beats are dope, i hope Grieves does another one with Budo.

    “Wild Things” is my favourite at the moment.

    I gief it a 4.4 / 5.0

    Real hip hop.

  17. wow this album is dope as hell..I’m lovin the vibe, the blues, the originality..I can definitely feel that he was influenced by Slug and Atmosphere when I listen to it. Grieves is dope as hell. Love it when I discover artists I never heard of, and realize how dope they are and who are still about the “art” rather than the “money”.

    Any other Grieves Albums I should check out?? Which one’s his dopest??

    Dx?? 🙂

    1. Irreversible, and 88 Keys are his only two solo albums. If you really want to dive deep into his stuff look up Illegitimate Children. That’s him and his friend “The MC Type”. It’s pretty good stuff. A bit different from his solo stuff.

    2. Only a few listens through but at this point I’m giving “Together/Apart” about a 9.5 out of 10… Possibly the best album I’ve heard this year (right next to Blueprint’s “Adventures in Counter-Culture” and Blue Scholars “Cinemetropalis”).

      “88 Keys and Counting” I’d give about a 9. A ridiculously dope album that I doubted he would ever top… But I think he did with “Together/Apart”.

      His debut, “Irreversible”, is dope as fuck too. I’d give it an 8 or so but please don’t sleep on it. Youtube the track “Scare Gardens” and that pretty much epitomizes his first album.

  18. This is a 4/5. its dope. of course he is newish and still can improve. but man, its been a while since i felt something REAL in hip hop music. here it is for 2011.

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  20. This album gets a 5/5 from me. Refreshing, tight production from Budo, powerful lyrics from Grieves and enough variation in the songs to keep you wanting more! One of the best of 2011 so far, along with Sims and Blueprint’s efforts

  21. One of the best albums out in the last year. Grieves and Budo are even better live than his albums!!!!! Grieves rules!!

  22. Eventhough Grieves does not discover nor reveal the secrets to handling the pressures of life, he does show us others… That we’re not alone, that there are actually others who feel some of the same feelings, and that as in “The Sunny Side of Hell” there are actually positivity in the darkest places… In my opinion Grieves deserves a 9/10 purely because of his lyricism, and his abilty to make the listener feel what he feels and Budo a 10/10 I got NOTHING to say on the beats..!

  23. Im still bumpin this to this day, its so friggen chill and you can really feel what hes saying. 5/5, its my favorite album from last year. Budo is incredible on the beats and grieves helps if your ever down. A must listen to anyone who enjoys hip hop

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