Willie D still feels a type of way after not being included in the Grammys’ 50th anniversary Hip Hop tribute with Scarface and took the time to confront his fellow Geto Boys member over it.
The conversation went down on the latest episode of the Geto Boys Reloaded podcast which was released on Monday (February 13). In the clip, Willie makes his argument that because Scarface performed a Geto Boys song, their classic 1991 single “Mind Playing Tricks on Me,” that he should have been included.
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Scarface disagreed, noting that they both perform the song on their own solo shows and it wasn’t his fault that the Grammys didn’t call him. “You feel like you was slighted,” Scarface began.
“Slighted? I feel beyond slighted,” Willie responded. “Like what I’m tryna figure out is … First of all, I ask you Wednesday when we left here, I said, ‘What you got for the weekend?’ You said, ‘I’m finna go fuck with this Grammys thing.’ I said, ‘Alright man, safe travels.’ Because, you know, that’s how we do it. Saturday come, I’m online and an article comes across about the Grammys. And I see ‘Geto Boys and Scarface’ in the lineup.”
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“I wanna see where it says ‘Geto Boys, Scarface,'” Face interjected. “I don’t never wanna get Geto Boys and Scarface intertwined ever. Because I don’t need Geto Boys to be Scarface, you feel me? So if it said ‘Geto Boys and Scarface’ or any of that shit two together, then they wrong for that because I can stand on my own two feet with no Geto Boys.”
“This is why it’s so baffling, because everybody knows that, right?” Willie responded. “You carved out a place in history for yourself. You were so good at what you did as a solo artist – you get that. Can’t nobody deny that, so ain’t no hate, ain’t no jealousy whatsoever. Remember I’m the one who said, ‘Hey man, you oughta call yourself Scarface.’ So I ain’t gon’ never hate on you. Never. When I see you win, I see Geto Boys win because we are a group.”
He continued: “So when somebody start talking about Scarface standing on his own, I said to myself, ‘Well Scarface got enough hit songs where he don’t need to be doing a Geto Boys song. He could have just done a Scarface song.’ If you would have done a Scarface song, that would have been different. A Scarface song is a Scarface song. That’s on Scarface’s catalog, not Geto Boys’ catalog. And to do a song that’s from the Geto Boys’ catalog, ‘Mind Playing Tricks on Me,’ a song that I co-wrote and to not have me included…”
Scarface interrupted and said, “Let’s go back to how the song came about too because you did have a verse on that record. Those three verses, we all know where those three verses and that music came from. You put another verse on it. But do you recall back when you heard that song and J. was trying to get you to rap on that muthafucka that you didn’t like it? Do you remember that?”
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“I don’t know if I didn’t like the song, but I know that I didn’t think it was phenomenal,” Willie D replied.”
“Okay well it was phenomenal,” Face said. “And actually now that I think about it, it’s a lot of shit that I do that’s phenomenal. And I think the reversal of trying to put that shit on me because you didn’t go there to the Grammys is fucked up. Because my phone rang and if a muthafucka didn’t reach out to you, it’s not my fault. So don’t put that shit on me, Willie. That’s not cool.”
He continued: “And if I perform that song… I don’t get mad when you go out and perform that song, bro. And I wouldn’t even give a fuck if you got the call. That’s not how I’m made. Like, I don’t care about that. Have you ever went on and performed ‘Mind Playing Tricks on Me’ without me?”
They concluded the conversation agreeing that they’ve both performed the song on their own.
The Hip Hop 50 performance was kicked off by Black Thought and The Roots before a barrage of Hip Hop pioneers took the stage including Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, Run-DMC, LL COOL J, Queen Latifah, Public Enemy, Rakim, Method Man, Missy Elliott, Lil Uzi Vert and more.
The almost 14-minute spectacle also saw Scarface grace the stage to perform “Mind Playing Tricks on Me,” which marked the first Southern rap song to be played during the medley. Face Mob hit the stage solo dolo, with no Willie D in sight. (Fellow Geto Boy Bushwick Bill died in June 2019).
After the performance, Willie took to Instagram to vent his frustration with the Recording Academy, saying it was “corny” that he wasn’t asked to be a part of the big moment.
“A reminder to the Grammys and all the rest of y’all out there trying to hustle the Geto Boys brand by only including Scarface, who had a stellar solo career: How in the hell are you gonna have a 50-year tribute to Hip Hop and not include Geto Boys the group?” he asked.
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He continued: “If you forgot, the group includes Scarface and Willie D. How you gonna use a performance that includes a song that I co-wrote but not even have the decency, the respect to reach out to me and ask me if I wanted to participate? Y’all are some clowns for that. All the way out of pocket. Whoever made the call, y’all some clowns… No more talking.”
“Disrespectful Mofos!!! No mo’ talk,” Willie concluded in the caption.
