In a recent rant on Hot 97, T.I. expressed his dissatisfaction with rappers who don’t give him credit as the originator of Trap Muzik. He also explained how other rappers are not as good as he is, adding that he feels disrespected by artists who believe they are better. He explained, “You can’t do what I do,” and then added that he is the reason the masses have accepted many other artists as well.
“Listen, man. I’m strongly planted,” he said. “I’m talking in cement and it’s dry – not wet cement, dry cement. I’m firmly planted, holmes. My foundation and structure has been laid with a dozen years in this thing, partna. My roots run deep. I’ve developed relationships. I’ve been building this up for a long time. You can’t do what I do, man. You can’t do what I do. When you on the mic, you don’t sound as good. I’m sorry. You do okay. You do okay. You do okay.”
“I’m tellin’ them the truth, man. I’m just being real…When you on the mic, you don’t sound as good as me. When you on TV, you don’t look as good as me. Your girl’ll tell you.”
He continued by sharing how he helped others get their feet in the door, saying rappers should thank him for opening a lane for Trap music.
“Listen, guys. With the exception of Outkast, Goodie Mob and I’ma keep it at there. With the exception of that, before I came in the game there was Lil Jon, Outkast and Goodie Mob so you had Crunk music and you had Organized Noize. There was no such thing as Trap Muzik. I created that. Yes, I did. I coined the term. It was my second album. It dropped in 2003…Now after that, there was an entire new genre of music created, an open lane for each of you to do what you do and live your lives on TV and be accepted by the masses. The masses have accepted you because I opened the door and you walked through it. Don’t forget who opened the door, cuz. You couldn’t have did what you doin’ right now without me, holmes.”
“I think they either forgot or they’re being disrespectful…You can’t have my spot because you can’t do as good as I do at half the shit I do.”
More of T.I.’s conversation can be heard on In Flex We Trust.
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WHAT U KNOW ABOUT DAT..*smile
that’s pretty much fact. indisputable. and if anyone was doing it, it wasn’t on that large of a scale.
The REAL great artists don’t have to say this shit … other people will say it for them. T.I. just sounds corny praising himself.
I wonder what all these south artists are gonna think about T.I. saying he made “trap music” a genre.
What is he talking about? Lol
He has a point to be honest, and I’m not his biggest fan
Delusional.
Trap Music is a genre?
Get real.
trap music is a segement of rap music Just like gangsta southern west coast east coast midwest. Gangsta laid back crunk
The truth is Lip Flip was the same caliber of artist as T.I. is now. If it wasn’t for Paper Trail I doubt he’d still be here today. Hype keeps him around.
okay there may be some truth to that,,,but WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO BE IN A TRAP,,,I KNOW TRAP is another meaning for money,,,however,,,,trap muzic,,,,dosent sound appealing,,,sounds like a set
up,,,and this same nigga went to jail,,,did trap muzic have anything to do with that?,,,probably not,,,but i wouldn’t brag about starting something thats,,detrimental to my people,,no matter how real a nigga keep it,,,,,,,DONT LET THIS NIGGA SOUTHERN TALK,,,FOOL YOU,,,,HE’S A VICTIM TO HIS OWN VICES,,,,HE DIDNT START SHIT ,,,,HE JUST GLORIFIED IT,,,,,GHETTO MAFIA,,,WAS THEM FIRST NIGGAS I REMEMBER FROM THE A,,,,DOING THAT TYPE OF RAP,,,AND THATS WORD!!!!!
yea Ghetto Mafia was doing that back in the day. Ghetto Mafia the truth.
@chillthrills,
Unfortunately, a lot of rap music is detrimental to our people. Usually the music with positive messages doesn’t get played or is labelled soft. Oh well
No Limit and Cash Money was doing that type of rap before him.
no limit was based off being a d boy. Go listen to that Rakim sample. Make Make crack like this. Come on TI you really feeling yourself too much holmes.
Correct. He needs to bow down to greats like Juvenile and Master P if he’s taking it there
Juvenile ain’t no great and Master P got dissed n buried
damn he’s really feeling himself
soundin like an idiot talking like that
TI doesn’t even make trap music.I was feeling Trouble Man though, 4/5
TIP = old skool KING
PILL = GOT NEXT ATL…(the best of the TIP influenced street music acts)
SORRY BIG KRIT….*smile….
lmfao fuck this snitch aka rat kang.
True statement/ T.I. was first with the trap music movement, but at the same time niggas been rapping about hustling for years. Trapping is just a different term but same thing
This snitch thinks he is that dope on the mic. You just average T.I. all your albums sound the same and your flow and voice are boring. Go buy some guns from undercover f.b.i. agents.
Nikka before you there already were some real legends like:
– geto boys
– mjg and 8ball
– outkast
Nikka you didnt make 1 classic album in your whole life. So shut the fuck up.
UGK and e40 were the ones that created “trap muzik”. they were the first rappers that I can remember that were talking about dope in terms of numbers and scales and shit like that. chill out, TI
Yeah but they are not from ATL he talkinq bout his city
T.I. is delusional. He wasn’t the first to do anything and he isn’t even as hot as Lil Wayne. Not sure he ever was, matter of fact. I can’t think of one groundbreaking contribution T.I. has made to Hip Hop. He’s way too egotistical for his own good. But I think I know what’s troubling him. There’s a new wave of artists that threaten to make him irrelevant and he knows it and he resents it because he feels entitled to some sort of imaginary ‘throne’.
Styles are changing and he’s still talking about cooking dope in a kitchen. What a joke. I said it before, this man needs to retire.
styles are changing and niggas are still rapping about the same shit, what’s your point
got some damn nerve using your ATL nick if you think T.I. ain’t helped pioneer anything, at least in the south scene
Styles are changing and a lot of rappers are rapping about the same things that other dudes were rapping about 15-20 years ago. What’s your point? What goes around comes around (Nas and Grand Puba)
YOOOOO my G, you would have an excellent argument if Lil Weezy Wee we’re a “Trap Muzik” Influenced rapper @ATLsouth84
PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP! TRAP MUSIC?!?! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!? Well we have YOU to thank for ceating tat wack music. Please shut up SERIOUSLY! And to be honest….I can not nae ONE of your TRAP MUSIC songs cause they are NOT Hip Hop to me and i refuse to listen to wack music……And like Jeru said…Ya’ PLAYIN’ YA’SELF, ya PLAYIN’ ya’self!!!!!!!!
Master P was really moving keys and was more respected and feared than TIP ever will be. Snoop was scared after Pac got killed and ran down south with P because he knew nobody would mess wiht him. P was that dude and still is. You might say his wack but really is about that life. Nobody ever did a diss record or tried him. They know he is the real deal.
WTF does Master P, have to do with TIP???? New Orleans….Atlanta????
He said he created Trap Music which he didnt create it. He feeling himself too much you Tip dick rider. get off the snitch nuts
master p didn’t create it though, bozo
Pastor Troy dissed Master P.
LoL STANDARD behind the KEYBOARD TUFF GUY TALK LoL! LOOK lets stick to facts… I can appreciate a good ole skool hip hop debate. The first emcee I think I remember hear saying trap in a rhyme was Big Boi on some early Outkast work I believe, dont quote me, just look it up. Which tells me they must call spots, traps down there. T.I was the first national artist to have a hip hop album marketed with the title “Trap Muzik”. Save the insults lil n*gga & just UP ya HIP HOP IQ 🙂 #SmileGangFool!!!!!!!
Master P never name his music “trap music”. No one was saying that until T.I., and that’s coming from a Master P fan.
What about Top Authority Dayton Family Eazy E
Standing on the corner straight slanging rocks all man here comes a mutfucking cop-Eazy E
Case Closed ^^^
Case Closed ^^
well said t.i. king of the south
THIS NIGGA SMOKIN TOO MUCH CRACK..
free boosie; do you think he was influenced by TI? I would like to see them do a track together.
i really dont understand why this man is considerd one of the best. what makes this guy so popular i dont understand
the fact that hes lyrical in a region that doesnt put out lyrical artists.. and hes dope as hell on the mic
I don’t understand how people don’t like T.I., the guy is probably the best rapper (all around) out right now.
LOL @ Tip acting like he’s proud of creating Trap Music. The shit you invented gave birth to Gucci Mane & Young Jeezy. That’s something I would be apologizing for, not bragging about.
Trouble Man is a good album tho.
Tip’s material didn’t really give birth to Jeezy, I’d say Jeezy just was in a similar lane as T.I. and they rose in the game together. Gucci to an extent but he just started doin dumb shit
This is what I think… T.I. layed the Blueprint for Alot of artists.. There’s alot of Trap Shit Goin on, and T.I. is not gettin the recognition he deserves as oppossed to what he has conquered… That being said… Trap Muzik Ain’t all that. It has created some bangers but compared to that real conscience Hip Hop.. It ain’t shit… Like Andre 3k said, Hip hop didn’t start with conscience rhymes but party joints… So Props to The King Bitch for what he achieved…
I don’t wanna see hatred on Tip because he’s just askin for recognition he deserves from rappers he helped who are not acknowedging his talents
Sometimes when an person feels they have to justify their relevance, it doesn’t seem proper. If you’re doing you and you’re straight, that should be all that matters. Going out of your way to give reasons why you should get props just seems strange. Kinda like Yeezy at times
T.I. is letting it rip on all those suckas that don’t know how to respect their elders of the rap game. i’m glad he talkin shit, and know that he will continue to talk shit. i listen to the nigga cause i like the beats and the flow. keep givin them sucka niggas hell homeboy….
I agree completely…
killer mike over t.i. anyday
Are you niggas really that desperate? Calling T.I. a real hip hop artist, shit I remember when he was the epitome of mainstream hip hop back in the mid 2000’s and now since shit has become so horrible y’all are looking for the excuse to call anybody who has been around before 2010 as real artists. Does he any classics? Nah didn’t think so
trap music-classic
urban legend- classic
king- classic
thats three outta 6 classic, with trouble man still being decided.. (and its sounding good to me)
Only one of those thats a debatable classic is Trap Music, the rest, LOL, GTFOH, just admit your a super fan and be done with it.
youve clearly never heard king
you’re saying T.I. isn’t good? What the hell are you smoking on? The guy is without a doubt a legend, and top 20 of all time.
I think Alot Of People getting It Wrong Master P Glorified The true Definition Of Not Being A Great Rapper And Knowing How To Hussle More Than Just Being A Dope Dealer. He Used Dope In Personifcation Of Music. To Cover Up The Dirt He Did In The Streets Forreal. TI never personified selling dope he spoke of selling selling drugs in the first person Meaning he spoke as if it was truly about that lifestyle not usuing it Like P whom would say Ghetto Dope was slanging crack to the streets in terms of cds. Rappers Such As Jeezy Is A Platinum Artist So It Opened A Door For Jeezy rappers Like Ross Used Movie Characters And real Drug Dealers For His Image But As Far As Being Mainstream He Never Wouldve Knew There Was Room for Success Doing It If Not For T.I Having Mainstream Success. Furthermore Master P Wasnt Really A Mainstream Rapper He’s Really Underground With Songs That Made Mainstream Radio.
T-Lie fell into the trap of attention seeking hoes. Take the money and run it was basically you crafted raft(gimmick) to get to the other side of sh*t’s creek. Let the youngins hoe that lame topic out for a bit. You have no control over it…Freedom of speech or lack there of.
T-Lie fell into the trap of attention seeking hoes. Take the money and run. Let the youngins hoe that lame topic out for a bit. You have no control over it…Freedom of speech or lack there of.
If anything he opened the door for WACK emcees. Plus all that “You can’t have my spot because you can’t do as good as I do”, he’s sounding so butthurt.
This is making me sick to my stomach. This nigga all over the internet talking about “I invented the trap fuck errbody suck my dick nias” when he never really invented shit. Niggas in the A have been saying “trap” since the early 80’s plus BIG BOI was the first one to put it on a record when he said “never talked to strangers in the trap and answered questions” so FUCK ANYBODY ON THIS PLANET WHO SUPPORTS AND LOVES T.I. AND HIS FAMILY
No doubt I wouldn’t think of myself any less either. When you earn your stripes no reason to. Even though your first album didn’t sell much it was still raw to me, and I think you had strong albums all the way through T.I vs TIP. I know you talking about and to Alley Boy… So I got no reason to take Your position on yourself personal… (Hint hint) bitches
Yes you did open the door to wackness. Nothing really great has come out of the south in a long time. So many artist are boring. They don’t say anything in their songs, just speaking on materialistic garbage & what they claim to do everyday such as girls, money (spend), & smoke herb. What is so funny is that so many people eat it up like it is the best thing out there, when they don’t even realize that they are just supporting practically the same exact thing that just came out last year (no originality). #SupportMCsNotWackRappers #KidsBopMusicIstheSouth #Don’tDumbItDown #WeNeedLyricsNotGimmicks #Ssuuttx2C.O.B
Yea but T.I. is a great rapper so it’s whatever.
Obviously this fuck boy hasn’t heard Killer Mike’s “R.A.P. Music” album, which is easily one of the illest albums to come out in 2012 PERIOD.. honorable mention also goes to Big Krit’s “Live From The Underground” and !MAYDAY!’s “Take Me To Your Leader”.. all really good SOUTHERN HIP HOP records.
The hate Lil Wayne get is understandable because he’s overrated but the hate T.I. get, I don’t understand.