Diddy sparked a debate during a recent Twitter Spaces conversation when he told JAY-Z he “filled” The Notorious B.I.G. and 2Pac’s shoes after they were murdered. Of course, reactions were split, with some agreeing with Diddy’s assessment while others thought that was an entirely impossible feat.
Spice 1 falls into the latter category. Speaking to The Art of Dialogue in an interview earlier this month, the 51-year-old MC laughed when the idea was presented to him.
“JAY-Z ain’t got as many bitches and he ain’t get as much love as 2Pac had, and he ain’t been in enough movies, so no,” he replied when asked if JAY-Z indeed slid into ‘Pac’s role. “Hell nah. JAY-Z got his fame after he was 25. Pac got all of that shit before he was 25. You can’t compare yourself to 2Pac if you over 25. If you over 25 and you’re trying to compare your career to 2Pac, you’ve already lost.”
Spice 1 then added he listens to more of 2Pac’s music than JAY-Z and contended “everybody else does too.” He also argued JAY-Z knows 2Pac is the superior rapper as well.
“JAY-Z knows that shit,” he continued. “Ask him, he’ll probably tell you. Can you sell two million fro the grave, can you sell six million from the grave? Madonna didn’t give you the pussy, she gave it to ‘Pac.”
Although Spice 1 credited JAY-Z for having “good songs” and “nice lyrics,” he insisted he can’t hold a flame to the late, great Tupac Shakur.
“You can’t fuck with that shit,” he said. “That’s that n-gga comin’ from his soul. JAY-Z was a good artist and a good lyricist. Dope as fuck. But ‘Pac was a whole different fuckin’ monster. Like, JAY-Z could be Jason Voorhees. 2Pac is fucking King Kong, that n-gga’s Godzilla. It’s a fuckin’ difference as far as the love.
“That artist had love from artists and people that you wouldn’t think would have love for him. Mickey Rourke and shit. Mickey Rourke was 2Pac’s homie. James Belushi and shit. John Singleton. Those were ‘Pac’s homie […] They just had love for him ’cause he was a good artist. You can’t take take shit away from JAY-Z. He’s just not a 2Pac — hell no!”
Diddy Tells JAY-Z He 'Filled' 2Pac & Biggie’s Shoes After They Were Murdered
Diddy made his initial comments shortly before what would’ve been Biggie’s 50th birthday. As he told JAY-Z, “Bro, you filled them shoes though. You came in and we definitely give thanks. You definitely came, and I just know how much Big really looked up to Jay. They looked up to each other. That is crazy you had to step into the shoes of two people. That’s all it was was those two people. They had things on lock.
“Hov was coming, but it was like these two cats was just so big, and so to have all of that come on you and have that responsibility to keep this shit fly and keep the art of it going. I think Hov kept the art of it going and take where they was at and take it even higher.”
This guys is a clown. Because of Jay age, hoes, and movies? Smh. Dude obviously has a west coast bias
Jay Z not fucking Wit pac period jay z has that east coast bias nobody I mean NOBODY from my area the SOUTH riding around listening to jay z them jus facts New York is New York jay has that behind him
Jay z wrote alot of hits for pac, big, dre, snoop, LL, EM, 50 cent. Soooooo how is he not better? Oh and, May I remind you he was writing their biggest hits in the mist of the Westcoast vs East coast beef. The men is like a God father to this.
Jay Z never wrote a song for Pac. Jay barely came out in 96, when there was a beef. You definitely need to be educated on the golden era of hip hop. No one wrote songs for Pac.
You sound dumb as fuck right now son. Jay didn’t write for Big or Pac. Y’all just say whatever nonsense you think is cool. Jay steals lines from Biggie’s old joints ???
You need to deadass stop commenting on anything hip-hop related.
Where do you get your nonsense from? Jay never wrote for Pac. EVER!
Nobody ever wrote for PAC,Except shock G who wrote a few lines for him in the beginning of his career..asides that pac wrote all his shit…from there henceforth
How old are you?
I don’t know about that. I’m in the south and at this point everyone listens to Hov. Maybe not in the 90s but somewhere along the way post folks caught on. Didn’t isn’t saying he’s better, just saying that after they passed he stepped into a/the top spot in the game which is true. He sells out shows around the world, not just NYC , lol.
I’m from Mississippi and knows Jay is a better rapper than Pac.
I’m from Mississippi. Jay has fans down here.
Lol…can NEVER be Pac or BIG…ESPECIALLY PAC! “Ladies love me long time like 2pac soul” LMFA0!! That’s what all these fakes want…the love Pac got. U probably never heard a Spice 1 lyric or even know wh0 he is…smh…he is 100% correct…Pac shit came from the soul buddy…gay-z jus raps
Spice is right about what he’s saying
Which part of the world do not have love for pac? Jay , bigs ,Nas ,all rappers combine together,can never have the love pac had, pac is still being played all over the world and I still believe pac is the reason why people mention Bigg in Africa.
Just because he’s loved everywhere, doesn’t make him a better rapper.
Fact of the matter is a lot of guys from that era that were HUGE aren’t the headlines they used to be. Wu-Tang was the biggest hip hop act on earth and while the premiere members like Meth, Ghost and Raekwon all still have careers and followings they aren’t what world is checking for. Pac and Big may be in the same shoes if they were still around. Jay and Em are in rare air in that their careers still command stadium tours and their albums are big deals.
Nice to see a good take on here
Leave Em outta there.
Kendrick is better than all of these pro wrestlers and rats, zero question
Spice 1? Oh why
Wat Diddy means is far as Money is concern J beat Pac & Bigg.JZ took whole rap game too another level.And made BK platinum status.Spice 1 u might need a job one day so chill downing gate keeper of culture.LMAO God Rasheem Ebbets fields finest RIP Bigg poppa 50 Anniv.
I’m callin it…Spice 1 Vs Jay Z Verzuz…let’s go !!
What if Diddy just meant it literally. Can’t you imagine he had two pairs of Nikes for Xmas, one for Pac, one for Big, and as he couldn’t give them to his friends now he gave them to Jay-Z. It’s just very obvious.
2pac biggie jay z
Nas better then all 3
Definitely agree. Big and Pac had accomplished so much before they died and Jay was never passing any of those two while they were alive. It would of been Big and Nas fighting for that NY crown during the Golden Era.
i don’t fucking think so.
We in Africa, knows there never was nor can there ever be another….2Pac dead or alive was and always will be a cut above the rest. We knows Jay-Z as one, if not the richest Rapper and ofcourse husband to Beyonce whom we loves…..but Jay-Z as filling the gap – I would say Diddy been smoking bad stuff or just nearly lickspittle tendency popped out way too far.
Tupac was not the best rapper
Jay has moments but is over all trash. He cant fuck with pac or big. Jay cant even fuck with stack bundles. Fuck outa here
Jay got hits, brah! I love Big and Pac music but Jay got hits too. Stack Bundles great too but if I go to someone younger and ask do you listen to Stack Bundles. The person going to ask, “who is that?!”
Truthfully, Master P filled the “2 Pac” void. Jay Z filled the “B.I.G.” void. Master P dropped “Ghetto D” in ‘97 and started the “No Limit years.” Also, Jay dropped “In My Lifetime” that was an album that was ahead of its time. Plus, it had a Bad Boy sound too.
I never like how certain people just seem to disrespect Nas like this…. Like he doesn’t have several classics, like he didn’t beat Jay in a battle,like he hasn’t been successful while speaking his mind, keeping it “real hip hop” and never selling out!!?? In facts Nas. Music is waaayyyy closer to PAC’s and Big’s due to the story telling (big) and his message (PAC) … shit is a slap in the face
They do Nas bad. They forget Nas had poetic rap hits (Street Dreams, If I Ruled The World, etc) too. However, they put Pac over Nas because he did melodies and had way more music out.
If a n*gga works harder than you and is more successful then he’s better than you. So ya…..Pac got all the credit over NAS. Same with Big.
“Hov got flow though he’s no Big and Pac, but he’s close//
How am I supposed to win? They got me fighting ghosts”
To be Spice could of ZHov can’t fuck wit him shid Spice 1 The TRUTH ALL HIS MUSIC IS THE TRUTH
What song jay z wrote for Pac? Cap!
DMX filled that void if you really think about it, facts.
He filled it in 1998. Jay was the void filler for 1996-97. X, Rule, Nas and Jay filled it in the late nineties.
Is Diddy P out of his senses? Comparing great Tupac Amaru Shakur With A-Z? The guy is sick upstair. There can never be a rapper like 2pac, not in this generation… not even the ten generation. No words to describe 2pac potential.
Jay, Pac, and BIG are three different types of rappers. Pac was poetic. BIG was raw and grimy. And, Jay was smooth and lyrical. Jay filled a void. Diddy not comparing Pac to Jay. It was Jay time to really shine.
Magoo the GOAT.
Word ?
Diddy and Jay are 33 Mason scum
Listen everyone who can’t interpret things. He is saying for example when your Daddy left and Grandma had to help out she filed the void. Not that she became yo daddy but she played a role in the couture for a period. People love to hate on someone whom is doing something. Now while I’m a fan of all 3 and I give credit to what all of them brought to hip-hop, I do tip my hat to the level that Jay has elevated the goals in hip-hop. That’s not saying he the 1st boss or anything or 1st to do it big. I’m just saying the level he got the game at right now was never imagined for someone off a career in hip-hop.
Spice on point. Jay on point but Pac was ahead of him n dat’s just factz. Pac went places even Big cudnt get to so early in da game. Don’t really know what Diddy tripping on wen he said dat, but dat musta bin strong.
Pac had people give him opportunities throughout his career. Digital Underground, Jimmy Iovine, John Singleton, Jada Pinkett, Suge, Snoop, Dre, teachers, and so forth. Big only had Diddy and Mister Cee. Jay had Jaz, Kane, Biggs, and Dame. Pac had opportunities. Jay and Big ran from a lot of their opportunities.
How Nas it say it name a rapper I ain’t influenced… Everybody knows I gave you power influence Tupac to write me and my girlfriend…
Don’t understand!
Well said Spice 1
Jay isn’t better than Pac or Big. He can’t fill anyone of thier shoes let alone both. Like Spice said, when you are trying to compare a guys success after the age of 25 to a guy who done it before 25 you already lost. The real question is, how many dudes has Diddy been with?
First, Jay is way more lyrical than Tupac. Yall better stop playing. Pac wasnt known for his master lyrical ability, at least not by people who really like hip hop and true lyrics.Tupac was known for his strong messages n his music and his amazing voice….also dum @ss, how do we know how many records Jay Z can sell from the grave wen he aint dead yet? Tht is stupid as hell!! Anyway, Jay wont sell as many records from the grave as Pac or Biggie cuz we n a different age. U can jus download the damn song for free…smdh…most of thia dudes points r stupid as hell and yall fall for them. Im not sayin who is better cuz i like all 3. But if u gonna argue som sht, hav ur sht togethet cuz his arguments sound like 3rd grade rhetoric. And then tell me wat does playing in movies hav to fo wit anything? If thts the case this dude jus crapped on 95% of hip hops best from the 80’s till now…fckin idiots
Jay Z is an Old School Rapper. And, he was not hot during 2Pac Era.
Biggie stole 2Pac rap style. And, Jay Z had copied Biggie rap style.
Lastly, 2Pac is the G.O.A.T. in Hip Hop!!!!
2Pac said, “Putting out albums is what he is about!”
Also, he stated that he wanted his speech to reach every block..
This is what the Game is missing….
Ask The C.I.A Or The F.B.I.
Who rap style will Jay Z steal next? 21 Savage.
Jay-Z helped 21 Savage get released from ICE custody – NME
“21 SAVAGE SAYS HE’LL GET $500K, DINNER & A COLLAB WITH JAY-Z”
Watch the steal, 21 Savage.! Don’t be the next Beanie Sigel!!!!!
They’re all kings in their respectful right. Just different lanes.
Diddy nor Jay Z believes that ba, and definitely nobody over 50 believe that shit.