DX already let you know about RZA‘s reaction to criticism from Rae and Ghost. But, now, RZA is continuing to open up about everything Wu related. He’s also showing that the Wu Tang‘s problems still have a chance of evaporating.
“Over the years some of us have grown in doubt, or maybe some of us have grown creatively in different directions,” RZA told MTV. “But I will say that when we do come together, a lot of things just seem to evaporate. When we get on the stage together, we can have a problem 10 minutes before we get onstage. But once we’re onstage, we feel like everything evaporates.”
RZA also opened up a bit more regarding Ghostface and the problem he saw with Killah‘s involvement.
“When you read on the Internet that Ghostface is upset that his album is coming out the same day as the Wu-Tang’s album, that’s because after the tour, Ghost was gone for two or three months into his own world [and] we went back into our own world…So nobody was in synergy of what’s really happening and that’s what makes the problem. You’ve got to build every day.”
For fans wishing for that reunion, they got it. As RZA explained, all of the swordsmen were present to record the LP, even if the money wasn’t present.
“I can honestly say, though, we did come together to do this record, and it was recorded without money. Nobody got any money in the beginning to do this record — we worked the deal out later — but to sit down and do it, we were still negotiating, but every MC came to the table. Method Man came to that studio, his lawyer called him up [and said], ‘Meth, don’t go to the studio.’ But he came. I think Method Man gave one of his most vicious, most hungriest performances in years on this album.”
But, talks of Wu Vs. RZA surfaced and it seemed that many of the Wu MC’s were against some of RZA‘s production. Could that be the case?
“U-God was the first one to come to the studio and said to me, ‘You know brothers are trying to say that your production is on left. Let me hear what you got, brother.’ I start playing the music and he was like, ‘Man, we’re going to be on fire. This is beautiful.’ When he said that he loved the music I was producing, I knew I was on the right track, because he’s the one that that really will say, ‘F— you.’ I took it on face value that we all came because this is what we believe in. Now I think it’s a little different, because all this flak is popping up, and it’s like, ‘Wow, I thought we were all on the same page.’ “
So, how is RZA‘s production?
“The way I produce now is I produce more like a musician…In the old days, I produced more like a DJ. I didn’t understand music theory at all. Now that I do understand music theory, I make my music more playable, meaning not only could you listen to it, you could get someone else to play it. Before, you couldn’t even write down Wu-Tang music. I think almost 80 percent of this record can be duplicated by a band, which is important for music, because that means 10 years from now, somebody can make a whole song out of it and cover it like how I’m covering the Beatles song.”
RZA often describes his new style as mature. He also spoke on his this maturity affects the Wu‘s style.
“I was so aggressive and so unfriendly to people at one point, and now I feel like I’m good…I can sit here, I can talk to people, I can shake hands. I feel like I’m a mature man. I think it’s important for me and my crew. It’s not all about making music to punch people in their face. [I want to be] making music to inspire people to stop punching each other in the face.”
But how big can Wu be with a more mature, worldly sound?
“I think we’re bigger than we used to be…I see 19-year-old kids in the audience, and I don’t know how they know my music, but they’re jumping up and down singing my lyrics. We did shows in 1997 — the biggest audience I’ve seen in front of the Wu-Tang Clan was 30,000 kids with their ‘W’ way up in the sky. I was real proud of that: ‘Wow, we’ve made it.’ On this last summer tour, I saw 70,000 kids do it, 100,000 kids. I mean, the biggest crowd was 115,000. So it’s bigger. It’s just not popular in the media. And the funny thing about that is, when Wu-Tang came out before, it wasn’t popular in the media. The media totally missed it. By the time they got it, it was already platinum. I think it may happen again: By the time certain people get it, it’s going to be already over here. I’m not worried. I’m feeling very confident. It’s not really about the record sales, either. Record sales don’t really measure the bigness or magnitude of the person. MC Hammer is the best example. He sold more records than all of us. But who wants to talk to MC Hammer?”
Despite any disagreements or quarrels, 8 Diagrams will be out early next month.
