“Panda” Producer Fires Back At Jermaine Dupri: “I Was Influenced By Grime”

    The vocal similarities between Desiigner and Future are a well-worn topic at this point but the overall biting conversation was revamped when Jermaine Dupri pointed out the beat to the Brooklyn-born rookie’s Billboard chart-topping single “Panda” awfully resembled his rival’s equally popular, “Fuck Up Some Commas.”

    A recent chat with Menace, the architect who laced the turn-up for “Panda,” is debunking that notion while offering scientific reasoning as to why he’s not a copycat.

    “That situation was dealt with my own team and obviously we got professionals listening to the beat and there are no similarities,” Menace tells HipHopDX from the confines of his own Manchester residence. “Because in the song ‘Fuck Up Some Commas,’ the main sound is a piano where as mine is a synth sound. And mine keeps going where as ‘Fuck Up Some Commas’ goes and stops. And my drums as well; that’s the main difference you can tell, my drums are more hard-knocking than ‘Fuck Up Some Commas.’

    When poised with the coincidental aspect that most trap music will sound alike given its roots in 808s and rap cadences, Menance (born Adnan Khan) somewhat agrees but points out that he made the “Panda” instrumental in 2014 and was heavily influenced by the sounds of his homeland.

    “Obviously when you have people saying ‘Oh yeah, the beat’s sound the same,’ I was like ‘kinda, yeah’ but that’s one opinion; respect everyone’s opinion,” he explained. “The influence was from grime. Grime is the UK scene. And grime is an energetic type of form of music that can be 140 BPM but an ‘explode-in-your-face’ type of music. And the BPM’s on both beats, they don’t match as well. Mine is faster. Much, much faster.”

    There will be plenty of opportunities for Menace to show and prove how his grime and new age Hip Hop sensibilities can sustain in the marketplace. He names Lil Wayne, French Montana, Ty Dolla $ign, T-Pain and Vado as the recent recipients of his beats and can’t wait to pay a visit to the states to connect with the artists in person. He also doesn’t plan on celebrating any personal victories until he’s on a GRAMMYs stage hearing his name called. After all, Menace, 23, has been making beats for nearly half of his life when he started making beats at the age of 12.

    “The ‘Panda’ beat is a £2,060 record and I’m going to take the world by storm,” he asserted.

    19 thoughts on ““Panda” Producer Fires Back At Jermaine Dupri: “I Was Influenced By Grime”

    1. Team Litty can u just run up on this fuck boi !! This guy has no skills he stole the beat basically and people letting him get away with it!

    2. If there wasn’t such a resemblance to future, jermaine dupri wouldn’t have noticed this shit, they sound similar after you smoke some weed though

    3. Adnan Khan, please fucking kill your self. A piano sound vs a synth sound? What is a synth? An electronic piano dumbass. Grime?? This shit is a fuckin trap beat. Kill your self tonight. Please, will be the only good thing u ever did for hip hop.

      1. Cosign! This is a trap beat. Pump the brakes, Londoners. Skepta’s “Shutdown” is a grime beat. There’s a difference.

      2. A synth is not an electric piano. Yes, it is mapped out on piano keys but a synth is form of a wave form processed to make a non natural instrumental sound.

        Anyways, it’s not an excuse. I will not excuse this garbage.

    4. A synth is not an electric piano. Yes, it is mapped out on piano keys but a synth is form of a wave form processed to make a non natural instrumental sound.

      Anyways, it’s not an excuse. I will not excuse this garbage.

    5. It really doesn’t matter if you used a synth, a trumpet, a clarinet, piano whatever instrument. If it has a similar melody, using same chord progressions and rhythms you copied it

    6. i aint gonna lie, i do not listen to future, but i have heard songs by him over the years…one day i was in the gym and the panda song came on…which was also the first time i heard the song and i immediately thought it was Future..same sound all around

    7. Well the problem is, average people got no idea what the fuck a piano or synth is, and they cant recognize the bpm difference, so too bad for this clown ass lookin nigga his beat is trash and sounds exactly like other trap beats. The whole concept of trap music is trash. Hell, the word “Trap” is a combination of “Rap” and “Trash”, there you got it.

    8. You must be a deaf dumb blind crackhead or something if you think Panda and Commas beats share any similarity. Desiigner IS a copycat of Future indeed but those beats? No way.

      1. You’re right man… These niggas is fuckin stupid they’re jealous of menace.. That shit ain’t sound the same at all. I know beats that sound the same.

    9. There’s nothing new under the sun. Jermaine has been producing since he was 14, by the age of 15 he had his own artists and was in music videos. Jermaine has heavy hitters under his belt unlike this fool right here, he should shut up.

    10. Man you Americans need to chill out. You fools have been biting our beats for years. Only just listened to an asap ferg song ‘new level’ with future and the instrumental was a knock off of a UK tune by a guy called Faze Miyake ‘the take off’. Lex luger ripped off a guy called Davinche years ago. Man your whole new Trap sound is a rip off of Grime..

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