Joyner Lucas has revealed just how hard it is to get in touch with Eminem, comparing it to getting the president on the phone.

Speaking to The Breakfast Club about being suspicious of other people’s motives within the music industry, the Massachusetts rapper said: “It made me realize why people like Marshall move a certain way.

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“Getting on the phone with him, you can probably hop on the phone quicker with Barack [Obama] than you can hop on the phone with Marshall. That n-gga’s calling you from a line with his manager’s assistant who is calling you from a 1800 number and it’s like elevator music and, ‘Please hold, Marshall’s coming to the phone.'”

He continued: “You can’t have his number. Nobody has his number. He’s not accessible. You can’t talk to him. It’s like hopping on the phone with the president.”

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Joyner then recalled how a conversation with both Royce Da 5’9″ and Slim Shady himself made him realize why the self-proclaimed Rap God prefers to keep to himself.

“I always wondered why this n-gga move like that. I had a conversation with him on the shoot of ‘Lucky You’ and he was in his trailer and I was like, ‘Yeah man, anytime you wanna talk, you can hit me,'” he remembered.

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“He was like, ‘Yeah’ but I could tell he was real standoffish. I asked Royce [Da 5’9″] why he’s like that. He was like, ‘That n-gga’s been through a lot of shit. He’s very closed-off from people.”

Lucas concluded by saying: “I never understood it but when I was experiencing the shit I was experiencing, I got it instantly. I’m like, ‘This is why this motherfucker doesn’t want new friends.'”

Watch his comments at the 12:22 mark below.

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Eminem previously named Joyner Lucas one of his favorite rappers alongside the likes of JAY-Z, Nas, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Royce Da 5’9″, Rakim and Kendrick Lamar.

Responding to the high praise, Lucas said: “If you played ball and studied Michael Jordan as the greatest, and then Michael Jordan name drops you as one of the greatest ball players of all time. That’s how this feels to me.”

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Eminem and Lucas collaborated on “Lucky You” from Em’s surprise 2018 album Kamikaze, with the track peaking at No. 6 on the Billboard Hot 100 and selling over three million copies.

The pair also teamed up on an unreleased song called “What If I Was Gay,” which found Joyner rapping from the perspective of a gay man coming out to a friend and Em portraying the unsupportive friend (who later turns out be gay as well).