Joe Budden has finally responded to Eminem’s Kamikaze diss. On Tuesday (September 4), the State Of The Culture co-host shared a video clip from The Joe Budden Podcast to his Twitter account blasting Slim Shady for his lack of content. He insists he’s been a superior rapper for the past 10 years.
“Newsflash Em,” Budden begins. “I heard the album and because I think you don’t really know all the members in the group, I don’t really think you know our history. Let me tell you what Joe Budden has thought this entire time. ‘I’ve been better than you this entire fucking decade!’
“Huh? Can’t say that back then. Can’t say that back then. But, in my rapper brain, I’m a content nigga. You gotta say something. You have not said anything for the better part of a whole fucking decade. You have rhymed a bunch of words.”
He added in the caption, “We’ll talk in the morning … 8am sharp.”
Budden is responding to the line on “Fall,” which finds Em hurling venom in not only his direction but also his former Everyday Struggle co-host DJ Akademiks.
“Somebody tell Budden before I snap, he better fasten it/Or have his body bag get zipped/The closest thing he’s had to hits is smackin’ bitches/And don’t make me have to give it back to Akademiks/Say this shit is trash again, I’ll have you twisted,” Em spits.
As promised, Budden tackled the subject on Wednesday morning (September 5) during the latest episode of his podcast.
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This is like when Lavar Ball said he could beat Michael Jordan in one on one
The most accurate statement I think I have ever heard in my life…
Lol. That about sums it up. I’ve fucked with more of Budden’s music over the years than Em’s, but even so, he doesn’t want those problems. It’s a matter of understanding your limitations.
This cock sucker is high af he will get his body bag zipped
competitions only breeds the best! hope there’s more fire to come!
Budden hasn’t been so good himself for about 10 years.. The irony.
What 10 years has joe been been bad? Joe as a rapper has never been super popular with the masses but his lyrical content has always been on point as a solo artist and as part of slaughterhouse. You can compare him to a Fabulous, Fab has never sold crazy units but he always got busy on a mic (pause)
Around 2011, after MM4, his freestyles and projects just weren’t hitting like they used to. He’d drop some heat here and there, but his consistency fell once he became more in love with social media and reality TV.
I personally think Some Love Lost EP has been one of his best CD’s
Joe Budden
1 hit
Zero classic albums
Professional Podcaster
Bye
you sound stupid…. joe’s last 3 albums were better than em’s if you wanna be “real”
Real stupid ???
Thanks for defending me Rory Jr! Let’s take about it on the podcast…. does having classic albums as well as hit records make you a dope MC?
Side note: Drake has ZERO classic albums and is not a rapper.
Joey chasing Em’s car down the street with a rock like how you gon diss me?
*Sigh* guess I can no longer hold out hope for Glass House. Budden would give Em a challenge in a rap battle, though. That would be a great battle, if it were to happen.
Theres a difference between rappers and em ..u say ems name he flames you. He says ur name u run to twitter or a podcast w talk
EM dont want smoke with a real emcee…. cut it tf out kid
I’ll put money against you Stan’s that Joe would body em.. joe has beefed with 50, game, hov, Saigon, meth, Drake and sent countless bars towards MC’s. Who has em really beefed with? Ja, Nick & Mariah, Benzino gtfoh….Joe just said it on podcast he will destroy if he puts out any other thing that’s not for his album roll out. But My hopes are down because I know em going to play puss and not respond and probably won’t even respond to MGK.
And all of the people you named that Joe beefed with are still in the game. No body bag for their careers. HE COULDN’T EVEN BEAT DRAKE!
Meanwhile Ja is out with ol’ boy from the Cosby’s bagging groceries at Trader Joe’s……
there’s a reason REAL MCs haven’t gone after Em…. mutual respect. He’s a student of the game and a seasoned battle rapper.
Keep it 100…. Joe is a boring rapper and found out he’s better as a podcaster, so he put down the pen.
Man stfu everybody know 50 killed and you keep it 100 and go compare Joe diss tracks vs Em diss tracks.. there not even in the same league.
Everlast, Canibus, Cage, Ja-Rule, etc. Perhaps we’ll see something between Em and Budden because nobody really wants to fuck with Em. Besides Budden always had bars, let’s see them!
That MGK shit was trash. A few years ago MGK was a self-admitted hardcore Stan. And he’s all in his feelings cuz Em had him banned from Shade45 for cat calling his then 16 year old kid on some pedo shit.
Great plug for Budden’s podcast. Everyone has an opinion. Where are the bars? Sh*t or get off the pot…
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GET’EM JOE! HE DONE FUCKED WITH THE WRONG ONE!
technically joe has been better the last decade.
Yo Joey you should shut the fuuck up and make a dope song this year instead of sitting on your ass doing your lazy podcast shenanigans trying to get your just trying to pump pump pump those ratings up by name droppin and clowning on people.
Get off his dick for being a media analyst. It’s the reason you come to this site… he retired… I just don’t understand how you could be mad that.
So respond back on a track and prove to be the better emcee. Podcast beef is lame as fuck.
Wtf you are a joke buttons. You have been your whole career. You did not belong in slaughterhouse, you were known for being the weak one in that group. You had no business battling hollow da don on total slaughter. You are the biggest joke in the rap game just choking to stay relevant with your big mouth on your lame ass podcast. Fuck outta here.
First off, I’m a fan of Joey and Em. Both are dope emcees who spit real bars and adamantly push hip hop lyricism, and have done a great deal since their debut to progressively further the hip hop culture. This beef would be great for hip hop and I am excited to see if they go at each other lyrically.
I respect Joe’s comment wholeheartedly, I just wish he would have expounded on what he meant by he’s been better than Em this entire decade, because without knowing his logic for that comment or the context behind it, all we can do is irrationally speculate and assume what he meant. C’mon Joe, break it down for us.
Fuck all that because both haven’t done that much the past 10 years. But even if you don’t like Em’s albums, he was fire on features, freestyles and BET Cypher.
Joe… put your money where your mouth is. Forget the podcast comments… Any rebuttal from Em gets you exposure. At least bring it to Em of you think you can handle it lyrically.
Or else everything you say is opinion. Prove it and put out a diss track.
I’m no fan of Eminem, but he’s waaaayyyy better than Hoe Buddens….Every rapper is. Hoe Buddens is the most mediocre rapper I’ve ever heard in life. His music has no depth or soul and his lyrics were bland as fuck. Even the way he looks and dresses is mediocre and forgettable. People only like him because of his weird pretentious persona. His music was NEVER good.
I think Joe would give em a good battle. Budden as always had bars.
Fuck u joey. He paid u for u to cry and barely even show up to the cyfer cuz u can’t get ur shit together
I FW Joe but he buggin. I’m here for the battle, but Joe don’t want to go that route. He’s “retired”. You cant say stuff like this and not be willing to back it up with tracks.
On the whole podcast he said he would come out of retirement and destroy him if em sent a real diss that wasn’t used for his promotion for his album. Em wont respond though so you don’t have to worry.
Everything he said about Slaughterhouse and Shady Records is true though, he ruined them.
I was a massive budden fan go back with the man to my teens when his cousins used to bring him up to East Harlem, still think he had the best one line diss of Jay-Z to date from the B.E.T awards that flew right over people’s heads but Joe been had issues with drugs and couldn’t fulfill his obligations. He spent 90 minutes complaining on his podcast about Em not taking them to the next level…well….if you hadn’t been on pills and paranoid and depressed during that time maybe just maybe you would’ve been able to use the people around to do something for your group instead of running back to the hotel to get smashed on percs. That man has singlehandedly destroyed a promising rap career by being anti-social and drugged up and can’t accept it like a man.
there was 4 of them, the truth is that Eminem made them use beats that didn’t fit them and dumb ass eminem esq hooks that didn’t suit them. They were better in 09 than they were in 2012, most of it had to do with hooks and production.
He MADE them huh? So he held 4 grown ass men at gunpoint and told them if you don’t use these beats, your family is dead…..or is this just Joe’s perspective, and out of 5 people, people automatically side with the 1 person to speak on it….makes no sense.
Truth.
They’ve both always been terrible rappers.
He has a point. Em’s songs are just not hitting like Stan, Way I Am, White America, Lose Yourself etc But Budden has noo music career to speak of compared to Em. Budden should release a track instead of ranting on a corny podcast, anything else is wack
Budden has bars but he’s counting on the “surpriseD he pulled that out of the bag” element which is fine, that shhh lasts two days like it’s doing for MGK right now where people are making it seem like he put out a barn burner simply because they didn’t expect him to even respond. People love to hype shhh up in the moment and then years later realize it wasn’t all that good. This will not end well for either of these rappers if he responds and he will respond. Ironically, three whole bars in an entire album has these two idiots acting like they are going to the mattress. If em was trash then why not take the first shot yourself?
If you think ANYBODY making a diss track these days could possibly be a bad thing for the culture you got shit twisted, dissing has always been a huge part of hip hop, it’s an alright diss, nothing overly technical but he does say some shit going off on him, disses don’t have to be overly technical though just gripping, real and creative, even if it wasn’t good tho making a diss record is the ONLY way to face disrespect in the rap game cause in this game idle talk don’t mean shit, if you don’t live hip hop you don’t make hip hop
Budden is tripping.
You lost a battle against Drake. Sit yo ass down
He did not lose that battle lol. He lyrically eviscerated Drake.
Joe is one of the last real ones. Hip hop needs his voice. Not saying he’s better than Em though (lyrically). I’d rather listen to Joe though
Joe Budden bout to murda dat white boi
– the only crack head in Wakanda
Joe is tripping like no other haha. Everything He said on his podcast was pure bullshit
I couldn’t name a budden track. I do appreciate his perspective sometimes, like in the Joyner interview. Other than that, what lyrics?
I don’t even like Buddens but I’ll side with him because FUCK EMINEM.
Joe Budden could have better albums for the rest of his life but he can never say he is the better lyricist. Em might not make good albums but the fact is simple, hes the better rapper. Content is important, but are we talking about the ability to rhyme or the ability to make a good record?
Ems raps > Budden talking
What’s joe budden said in the last decade exactly
Seriously. I’m not much of an Eminem fan, but at least he tries to stay relevant. Budden has always been low-to-no substance.
uhhh Nah Joe, confidence is one thing but not on this subject.
I disagree that he’s been better i can understand tho that joe values content above all else and em really hasn’t said a lot of anything over the last decade thats real, don’t get it twisted though ill always be a fan of eminem as an artist but how much of an asshole do you have to be to shit on somebody this loyal and caring?
Joe the one hit wonder man stick to your podcast this battle thing is not you
Man. Budden is all bark and no bite. Put out a song if you wanna prove yourself. anybody can talk shit on a podcast.
Budden just got some free clout, and he is gonna use this to the fullest. Just watch.
Joe hit the nail on the head on this one. Eminem hasn’t said shit in the past 5 years (I wouldn’t say 10, Em had a message on Relapse and Recovery, even if the latter was pop). Em just rhyming words with no message, and barely no flow.
Love budden, love Em, hate that they don’t get along but budden is wrong here. Budden is acting like Eminem hasn’t said anything, or made music with any meaning in the past 10 years while also acting like his albums aren’t full of songs that have empty rhymes. Joe has only had 1 good album his whole career, and it’s his last one not the one with Pump It Up. Also, Em doesn’t acknowledge Revival was wack, just that people didn’t like it. He actually defends the album throughout kamikaze. However, while uninformed, Buddens line of “stop telling us your music was garbage and just be garbage over there” is hilarious. The crew saying they dont understand why Em wants to prove himself makes no sense because when all you hear are people saying you’re wack, you want to prove yourself. Whatever, I hope to get some tracks, I know we won’t though.
Budden says this decade not the last ten years. Still talking nonsense though.
2010-2019 even
His entire Mood Muzik series is better than anything Em put out the last 10 years. So is Padded Room and the Halfway House project.
Tired argument, Joe thought he was nicer than Sean Price (got smoked live), Method Man, Ransom….on and on. He draws inspiration from Em now he thinks he would smoke Em…tired argument and obvious strategic marketing.
Budden’s always been better. Punchlines, delivery, voice, better albums… Em’s got nothing on him other than a legion of Mountain Dew slurping white boys adoring him.
Welcome to your first day in Hip Hop. Dumbest comment ever.
All I saw in your post was “people tell me eminem is the best and he uses very loose multisyllable rhymes which I’m too easily impressed by, so he must be one of the best rappers.”
It’s not that hard to use stretched approximate three syllable end rhymes with a few internals thrown in. That’s very basic rapping to anyone who’s capable lyrically. Eminem’s good, but is by far the most overrated rapper in the world.
Must be trolling or coming straight from a mental hospital.
bruh why u hating on mt dew?
I like Joe but c’mon now. Joe has no classic album. Also, Em came up in the game by entering rap battles. Only battle Joe had was against Hollow the Don, just for the bag and umm yeah, that didn’t end up very well
So you’re just ignoring or ignorant to the 30+ diss tracks Joe has put out battling The Game, Jay Z, Saigon, Ransom, Method Man, Royce da 5’9, Lloyd Banks? The list goes on, Joe Budden is a fucking seasoned battler.
Umm yeah… I wasn’t talking about talking shit on a song. I was talking about an actual battle on stage, front of a crowd.
SLAUGHTERMOUSE!!!
I do like Joe and in my opinion he’s underrated. But no, he hasn’t been better than Eminem for a decade. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Eminem might not be reaching the heights of previous projects but let’s be honest here, neither are many other rappers. He’s pretty much competing with his own legacy but an underwhelming album for Eminem would be considered a win for a lot of modern rappers. Recovery might have went modern with the production but there was a lot of hard punchlines and witty wordplay on that album. Marshal Mathers LP 2 has a few throwaway tracks and odd beat choices but his lyrical dexterity and versatility are off the charts. And it’s easy to forget Shady XV, the Southpaw OST and Bad Meets Evil where Em also went hard. For me, his only real duds are Encore (still had some standout tracks though), Relapse (felt tired and forced) and Revival (a mundane album with a few genuinely excellent songs). Eminem is over the hill, Joe Budden hasn’t even climbed up the hill.
Let’s keep it real. Joes criticisms weee accurate
Rory said Rap God had no replay value. Rory is right!
Rory said this album has no replay value. Guess what’s he’s right again
Em is one of the greatest but not in the top 5. He lacks substAnce and soul and tries to compensate for this by creating controversy.
Ems only claim to fame is Stan ( I give him that) and for making more money for record companies and not other rap artists.
He flows well yes. But Fu schnikens were arguably just as good. So was Percee P and latterly Organized Konfusion. He has taken flows which were standard in the early 90s and resurrected them.
Tupac did not have the same ability but his songs have so much replay value.
I am sorry but Eminem is a great but certainly not the greatest or top 5.
Top 5 is Pac, Jay, Rakim, Big and Nas/Krs 1
I agree with everything except the 2pac bit. I think his raw emotion and pen game overshadowed his technical ability, but he could go toe to toe with the “technical” guys if it came to that. Point well taken though.
Thanks. For the younger hip hop fans check the following
Fu schnikens – ring the alarm the flow here is almost identical to Eminem’s current flow and that was nearly 30 years ago
percee p – lung collapsing lyrics is slightly more dated. Buy the point is to show how Simone from nearly 35 years ago was flowing on the same level as em now. You have probably never heard anyone flow like Em before because you never new these songs existed. Eminem deserves credit but not nearly as much as people give him
I’m glad some people here are aware enough of hip hop history to recognize eminem is not as dope as people who only ever listened to radio rap would lead you to believe. There are a lot of rappers that are just straight up better than eminem.
Rakim And Krs1 is not Top 5 … Stop it …. Big Pun Better Than Both Of Them … It’s Either Em Or Nas That Gotta Go Out The Top 5 Cuz They The Least Replay Value And Listenability Only Older Ppl Will Sit There And Listen To Full Albums From Them
KRS is 10000x better than Em. Em wouldn’t crack my Top 25.
The only reason Pun is not top 5 is the same reason Em ain’t top 5. Everybody else I mentioned when they first came out changed the way hip hop was done. No one was rhyming like Big before Big. No one was rapping like Nas before Nas. No one was rapping hustle rap like Jay. Takin changed hip hop the most because people used to laugh at him at first. Krs one brought you the first big battle in hip hop and the teacher style. Em and pun started no trends. That’s why they are not top 5 to me. But they were grade a lyricists
Dude, shut up. You sound stupid. KRS gets busy on that mike with anybody from any era when you’re just talking about spitting this shit over a beat. Rakim too. Dude revolutionized how people rap when he started rapping.
Oh and I am on Joes side regardless whether he wins or not against Eminem. Joe is the culture Em is the machine. Ems backers would not allow em to lose a battle. They may stage manage the whole thing and give him ghost writers ala Drake. That’s why joe as he said needs to battle outside album roll out. Em and Drake are good people at heart but they are being used to dictate the culture. Joe is the culture . I am on joes side
What?? No replay value??? Maybe not to you, but that 200 million he’s sold worldwide say otherwise fool! EMINEMS worldwide player, come with facts if you’re gonna say some dumb shit
When you sign to the dude’s label you’re claiming to be better than, I think you lost that one before it started. That’s kind of an oxymoron.
Anytime Budden talks crap, I think back to the time Inspectah Deck murdered him with the song, “House N**ga”. Budden never even replied to that one after he got smacked hard tryna approach the gods.
Also anyone can talk crap, back it up with a track Budden or stay quiet.
that joint wasn’t even a good diss joint… and if you know the truth… Joe was about to give it to deck, but being that he made amends with methodman shortly before Inspectah released the diss… joe decided not to…
Not for nothing, Joey won the second I heard the Pac track lmao
He’s not wrong.
He also wasn’t wrong in saying that one wack barr isn’t worthy of him coming out of retirement for.
Balls in Ems court Joe said very clearly come at me with a worthy diss track AND ILL FUCKING CHOP YOU UP!!!
Lmao!! Not worthy of him getting out of bed, but dedicates a 90 minute segment of his podcast to talk about it! With anger and spite, trying to say a Legend is wack! Joes salty as fuck player. You don’t know shit about hip hop
Pop legend, big fucking deal. His albums have no reply, he’s a pop culture rapper, This generation and future ones will get zero value from a past Em album but The great adventures of Slick Rick, Illmatic, Radio, Rip the jacket, All eyes on me, Reasonable Doubt are timeless that’s why Em is fucking overrate.
Now fuck off back to TMZ
Joe Budden is like the art teacher of hip-hop. Those who can’t do, teach. If he was that dope of a rapper, he wouldn’t be sitting around bullshitting about other cats that are out there making moves. If you’re that dope, make a record and prove it. Otherwise stfu old grumpy ass man.
Anyone in here thinking Joe won’t smoke Eminem hasn’t listened to his “Slaughtermouse” song. That joint aired a lot out and was 100x doper than anything Em has put out the last decade.
If you’re truly Hip Hop fans judge based on the merits not groupie mentalities. Em was incredible but he hasn’t been for a long ass time.
Facts…. He say he been STUDYING EM SINCE 96…
So? That means nothing, what’s Joe gonna say that Eminem probably hasn’t already told us? He was a battle rapper that destroyed complete strangers. I know there’s Stans out there but Joe Budden seems to have them too! Be realistic, in a battle setting, Joe Budden is getting smoked along with anyone else!
What fool?? Stay out of hip hop conversations with that dumb shit, we can talk facts and we can break down bars dawg, let’s do it
Let’s go then Barr for Barr. Pick a fucking track of Ems from the last decade and we can go barr for Barr.
If you think Em is dope this last 8 years you’re fucking dumb. Now take your groupie Stan ass on.
Slaughtermouse Barr for Barr is better than the entire fucking Revival and Kamikaze albums period.
Joe budden really low key fire
om greg
Love joe but dude got mad salty. Hes on record saying eminem is the greatest wordsmith and has great content. Not to mention 3 members out of 4 are saying a completely different story
Also Rory and Mal were cringe worthy nutt hugging. Rory is flat out embarrassing
They’re 2 yes men
ya’ll remember that “battle” right? Budden is only a step above canibus. dropping the mic in the third round like a bitch.
That was the day i lost all respect for him
With what hits Joe??? Look how extra this bitter fool is. He just wants those views and clicks. Gun to his nut sucking buddies head, you gotta put money on Em vs. joe, I bet these fools would be singing a different tune! FACTS. Any hip hop legend can drop an album and it gets a pass no matter what, then Eminem drops something it’s like everybody turns into the fucking CIA and try to find anything they can wrong with it. “He’s rapping to fast” “oh no he’s rapping to slow” “his flows to choppy here”, “he should rap about this” “oh no he should about that”, “Em needs to diss more” “oh Em just looks bitter when he disses now” “he’s just putting words together” WHAT IN THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS WANT?? This dudes rapping his ass off giving you fire verses and there’s always something wrong. And cut the bullshit with Em has no replay value. For every hater like you there’s 100 people bumping Em everyday. 200 million records worldwide and no replay value? Em’s sold more than your top 5 favorite artist combined. Who’s buying these albums over and over then??Fuck outta here with that dumb shit. Look how ignorant that sounds. EMS WORLDWIDE you inept motherfuckers
Truth
well fucking said!!! 100% truth!!! When your that great you get hated and judged, no different in sports. And as far as Joe dissing Em its weak as fuck. This man did a stan song about Eminem saying how in awe of him he is but now says it was going to be a diss….. lol Please go watch the BET cypher with slaughterhouse and watch Joe reacting to Eminem…….he can’t believe what he is witnessing and walks off before it ends. It really just comes down to jealously, he thought signing to Shady was going to make him a world wide house hold name but it never happened so as Joe always does he points his fingers and blames everyone but himself!!
Really because my favourite artists have single albums that have sold more than Ems entire fucking catalogue.
MJ – Thriller has sold more than Ems whole fucking catalogue has, but cornball Em dissed him for being pop then went pop himself.
FOH you pathetic Stan.
I said hip hop artist you dumbass. This guy just proved my point. People don’t read, they don’t educate themselves on beefs, etc. they follow like blind sheep. FOH
No you didn’t you fucking idiot, you said “artists” learn to read your own fucking writing moron.
The only sheep in here is fucking YOU!!! Even Em said his last album is wack, he said the same shit after Relapse.
And sales don’t mean a fucking thing idiot, Drake has sold 50 times what’s Rakim, Black Thought and Elzhi have combined and all 3 are better than him, and your fucking super hero Marshall.
This is a hop hop website dumbass, why the fuck you bringing Michael Jackson into it?? Find me one time where Em says Revival is wack. You’re buggin and you sound like a hater fool! Say whatchu want about Drake but I don’t consider him true hip hop! He makes songs for bitches and highschoolers, don’t compare that to lyricists fool. Em’s a fucking rhymes and the as pure as hip hop gets! Stop hating dawg! This dude has giving you so many different styles of rap and flows and never lost his pen game while doing it! Name a rapper to hop on a record with Em that out rapped him???? The only one you can argue is Royce cuz they’ve done so many songs together. Xzibit, Redman, Methodman, 50, Busta, Joyner, Kendrick, Jay, Snoop, Wayne, Kanye, Drake, Biggie Smalls, Tech 9, and the list goes on fool! Wake up from your daze of hatred player! I don’t hate any legend, respect always for the greats, and you don’t speak rap legends without mentioning Eminem. You’re tripping over there dawg
Also Eminem hasn’t sold 200 MILLION worldwide he’s sold HALF of that, 100 MILLION but like everything about Eminem his idiot stans over exaggerate and inflate everything fucking does because they’re on his dick 24/7 and try to make him appear far far far greater than he actually is.
Again 100 MILLION not 200 MILLION
Just like he’s MEDIOCRE not AMAZING!!!
That’s 100 MILLION is based on 18 albums too. Tupac has sold 80 Million based on 11 albums, and 80% less marketing and based on only a 5 year career. Em has been grinding 4x longer, had 10x more marketing, and 6 more albums to barely outsell a real fucking Legend.
Don’t agree with the other post but you are spot on with the PAC scenario
*ur not wrong at all
N i place em in my top 5 ever…but his 3 classics n d12 days r over
If I was Em, I’d sign Hollow Da Don to a one album deal just to put flame in Joe’s pipe
really when hollow got smoked at total slaughter? that would be a waste of money fam.
Eminem releases kamikaze… the knives are out!
Pump It, Pump It, Pump It…. Joe Budden stole song from Denzel – Pump It Up 😀 Joe Budden stupid black retard
Let me give you some background on me..Eminem is what got me into hip hop and started this love and affinity i still carry till this day for it. I have always kind of listened to the same core mc’s over the year. When Eminem was making his comeback in 09 there was nobody more excited than me. Recovery dropped, and weird accent alive, that was eminems best album until this shit came out last week. Now i do agree with Joe on most of his points. Why did eminem feel he needed to rap better than everyone when we know he can do that? he hasnt really said shit in 10 years. that trump freestyle was cringeworthy. That beyonce song makes my skin itch.
The problem with this whole argument is that people can’t separate the facts from opinion.
The thing I don’t understand is this..if even Eminem admitted that last cd was god awful, why is nobody allowed to call a spade a spade and say what it is? it doesnt mean we don’t like EM, it just means we expect better than that. Why do we have to hide our opinion? By us kissing ass we get nothing out of it but the same bullshit. Look how this lit a fire under Marshall.
Nobody said you can’t. But that’s his whole persona. Get off my dick and let me do my thing because I ain’t never fucked with you. Eminem has never really randomly disssed any rappers. That was really his first time outside of the Royce real deal beef and 50’s whole Murder Inc. beef. It was always generic, and then people piled on because they could finally say “told you so,” when they wouldn’t say shit even though some of them didn’t like his shit before. I’m not an Eminem fan and never have been, but I get that about him. It’s not him saying I’m not approachable and you can’t fuck with me, but rather him saying that I haven’t fucked with any of you but all of you piled on me when I finally shot an airball even though I’ve done a lot for the culture.
A lot of you Eminem fans fail to realize something. Who has Eminem battled who was really on his level his entire mainstream career? i’m neither the biggest Eminem or joe fan, but Eminem has made a living off beefing with popstars. nsync, backstreet boys, Britney spears, Christina agulera and even elton john dammit lol. what rapper really? ja-rule? cannibus? benzino? this would be good. shit we still waiting for drake to go at pusha lol
Cannibus is a legit rapper, better than Joe although Joe is amazing. People choose not to beef with Em out of fear, as Game detailed in the past. I hope to hear some tracks back and forth. When you really think about it though, it’d be 2 grown men just rhyming at each other. People need to relax, it’s not that serious.
canibus better than joe? where? even joe ethered canibus!! foh lol… Canibus just gave up….
Man, when canibus pulled out his rhyme pad during that battle it was a wrap for that dude. Who does that? Joe may have lost a couple battles but at least he memorized his rhymes.
Lol, you use “ethered” as if it ended Jay. Jay had better bars throughout all the tracks released by the 2. And if Nas felt the way his stans feel about Ether, he wouldn’t have continued to release songs dissing Jay for the next 3-4 years or so. Joe had 3 lines for Canibus which were good, not going to lie, but he didn’t “ether” anybody.
true I’ll second that! Ether gets so much coverage and props when if you look at it by today’s standards Nas broke the dis track rules. Nas took months before he responded to Jay. Nas hit Jay with insults and no facts. The “takeover” was over a sample by the legendary “Doors”. Ether was more of a prisoner of time and a surprise moment. Nas got points for simply replying bc everyone thought he was done. Ether is over hyped plus Jay ended up signing Nas so who really won?
the podcast really sounded like the last letter from Stan
the way Joe talks and acts you would think his discography was Jays and Nas combined LOL ask 90% of people to name a Budden song and they probably reply with “that dude from Love and Hip Hop is a rapper?”.
Why is anyone disputing this? Budden had 7 dope albums plus slaughterhouse this past decade, em had 2, 2 other albums with 3 good songs, and an absolute trashbag with 1 song with replay value. How many ppl that are just like him,walk talk n act like him? Go drink a 1/5 of vodka n drive…stans…this is not even debatable