Joe Budden & Vince Staples Debate If Drake’s Album Pushes Toward Rap Music’s Elimination

    Drake’s house-leaning Honestly, Nevermind album sent shockwaves throughout the Hip Hop community, which has resulted in all kinds of controversial takes.

    Vince Staples and Joe Budden are two people that don’t mince their words, and the Long Beach native joined the latest episode of The Joe Budden Podcast for an interesting discussion surrounding the 6 God’s latest offering.

    “You think Drake putting out a dance album gets us closer to the elimination of rap music as a whole?” Budden asked.

    Staples quickly brought up his 2017 Big Fish Theory and how the experimental project received a ton of backlash from fans. However, he does feel with the internet’s takeover that consumers’ experiences are pretty similar and it has broken down regional barriers in music.

    “Music has always been very visual,” Staples responded. “When I think about artists, visual things pop up… Michael Jackson it’s the moonwalk and 2Pac it’s a lot of aesthetic things. Of course, it’s the music, but the thing is we’re visual people.

    “When you think about where music is headed, everything is Instagram, everything looks the same, moves the same, dresses the same and talks the same. The genre shit is going to have to go out the window eventually. It’s too hard to separate culture because the internet has kinda pushed everything into the same little bubble.”

    Drake has been a trendsetter for much of his career while dipping into other genres to incorporate into his own music. It remains to be seen if that will be the case with Hip Hop following in his dance-heavy steps for the rest of 2022.

    12 thoughts on “Joe Budden & Vince Staples Debate If Drake’s Album Pushes Toward Rap Music’s Elimination

    1. The conversation with Vince started with a quote from Stokely Carmichael about human survival and you picked this low hanging fruit?

      1. Are you really surprised though? Its all about what gets peoples attention, of course they’re gonna push the Drake topic lol

        1. Not surprised at all – just letting people know they miss the real gems if they only follow headlines lol

      1. i understand that but when you are known for Rap, it’s gonna leave a stigma because hate it or love it, Drake has a big fanbase where half of them don’t listen to hip hop. the genre is already struggling to maintain its shelf life as it is. it’s okay he dipped inot another genre but as with all things, there’s always a negative effect to it

    2. Everyone shitting on Drake’s album is exposing themselves. It’s okay to only listen to rap/hip hop all day 24/7, but those naysayers forget that there’s a lot of people out there with a wide array of musical tastes that really enjoyed Drake’s album.

      The close minded nature of hip hop fans will ultimately lead to its demise. Anyone who says that songs like “Flights Booked” and “Massive” are objectively bad songs are just exposing how little they venture outside of that Rap Caviar playlist.

      1. i think you totally missed the point of the whole argument. it’s not about people not accepting different tastes. there are many who listen to hip hop that do listen to other music. the point of the argument is that is this gonna change rap music in a way where it totally loses its identity. you are the one being close minded. because you couldn’t even see that simple flaw and only talking because you are a fan of Drake or something. fandom blinds people too much. you can’t think like that. you gotta look at the picture as a whole. even though i don’t like Drill or Trap rap, one thing I can say is that it sounds like Rap. I heard Drake’s new album briefly. this is not a rap album and that’s fine. he’s a crossover artist. Drake has never been an MC to me anyway. but please don’t act like this is a bold direction. it’s not

    3. ITS NOT FUCKING HOUSE MUSIC YOU FOOLS. ITS WATERED DOWN AFROBEATS ISLANDS MUSIC HESSS WHITEEEEEE STOPPPPP INCLUDING HIMMMMMMM

    4. THIS DOES NOT KILL HIP HOP. THIS PROVES THAT ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. NON HIP HOP FANS LISTEN TO DRAKE.

    5. Hip hop been dead for a long time now. We’re just poking the body with a stick right at this point.

    6. I asked for Rave music,, Drake and Queen Bey provided ? I love them?. ?️ The monsters out here cage so let’s party yea let’s RAAAAAAVE YEA ??????

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