Joyner Lucas has appeared to reach the point of no return.
Not long after airing out Karen Civil’s alleged shady business practices on Friday (September 17), he’s now turned his wrath on longtime music executive Steve Stoute, who he says recently served him with a cease and desist over copyright infringement.
“After everything that transpired yesterday with #KarenCivil, it made me realize I been holding in a lot,” he wrote. “She’s small fry..How bout a guy who got over $100 mill to help serve artists with tech. $50 mil from @Apple just months ago. @SteveStoute and @unitedmasters you lame AF!
“You raised $50M from Apple to help artists & their careers @unitedmasters but you just paid lawyers thousands to send me (an INDEPENDENT ARTIST) a copyright infringement for saying the words ‘record label in your pocket,’ how are you acting any different then a major label?”
Joyner Lucas included screenshots of the cease and desist letter, which reads in part, “United Masters considers such use of the mark “RECORD LABEL IN YOUR POCKET a blatant violation of UnitedMasters’ rights.
“Not only is Tully App using the exact mark RECORD LABEL IN YOUR POCKET, but the RECORD LABEL IN YOUR POCKET mark is also being used in connection with goods and services that directly conflict and/or compete with the goods and/or services offered by UnitedMasters under the RECORD LABEL IN YOUR POCKET mark.”
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It continues, “Tully App’s use of the mark RECORD LABEL IN YOUR POCKET is unauthorized and likely to cause confusion in the marketplace as to the source or sponsorship of the goods or services.”
The UnitedMaster’s app touts its services as “a record label in your pocket,” while Lucas has used something similar. Still, Lucas had questions and accused Stoute of buying the trademark to the phrase to stop his hustle.
“And @stevestoute don’t do that industry bs and say you had no idea legal did that,” he added. “You paid them thousands to send copyright infringement letters to me. You spent thousands on legal just to register the trademark names to prevent independent artists to push the exact same narrative.”
Joyner ended with, “@UnitedMasters @SteveStoute I thought we was cool, we had meetings with you, gave you a demo of our software to build an alliance to help artists. I made mistakes in my career and I’m tryna to pay forward and you n-ggaz is doing the same major label shit you preach against.
“I’m tired of n-ggaz playing wit me bro. I raised 10million for #Tullyapp and you raised over 100million for united masters and yet, I have more technology built than yal. THAT’S A FACT! So how and why is it that you n-ggaz is watching me and sending me letters and Shit? SMH lame.”
HipHopDX has reached out to Steve Stoute for comment.
Steve Stoute…you mean Puffy’s ex boyfriend. C’mon now. They got the same business model, mainly “The pay me,f*** you” model. You should never associate with anyone remotely in the same circle as those sodomites unless you want to get r@p3d of all your $$$. That’s your fault for not doing your own homework.
Young boys exposing the old way? Hmm i like it
I’m glad he is disturbing the nest. Don’t let these leaches off the hook.
Rappers are slaves to executives, there’s no smart new rappers cause they only signing the ones that can’t read contracts. But rappers are too ego driven to unionize and fight against the machine, so we get an industry full of bonehead puppets except for a few
fuck steve stout he always been a bitch cormega exposed him when he wouldn’t sign with The Firm bullshit contract
Never trust a Karen…. even a black one.
dangerous nonsense from someone who thinks it’s funny to hate your neighbour. Everybody get so excited when black people call out other black folks. what about their white benefactors? These small time rappers always have someone black name in their mouth when it comes to business acting brave. highly doubtful yelling about Steve Stoute and Karen Civil is going to hurt this muppet. Start your own business if they don’t run theirs right.
What are you going on about? All I see is word salad. I highly doubt Karen and Steve is anyone’s neighbor on here. Wrong is wrong no matter what you look like. All I see is shilling to the race baiters. The only thing I can agree with is starting your own business if you can.
Never trust a Karen? that’s your motto on here ?
people are always acting brave talking about black business people never the white ones who rip off artistes as well.
clear enough for you ? lol
Ahh cause of race got it. I’m a little slow sometimes. You sure that white people don’t get called out for shady business practices? Maybe like Harvey Weinstein; Jerry Heller, Scooter Braun, Dr Luke (Kesha producer), James Spears….I’d almost accuse you of not trying, but I think you genuinely believe what you’re saying since you repeated it to me. It’s funny. Answer me this; why is is the same people pushing for “black excellence” the same people ripping off black artists? Can you answer that? Or you can just repeat the same thing again even though it doesn’t mean anything. What I’m reading is; “don’t call out black executives/artists for shady shit they do. Ruins the narrative I know. Can we just agree that people do shady shit regardless of skin color? Maybe we can agree on that at least. Then again you just attack me personally, or attempt to insult my intelligence. Cause that works to find common ground too.
yeah this rap guy has black people name in his mouth as usual for rap guys
keep it going lmao
I’m not defending any shady business practices but obviously hip hop is corrupt. Only maybe 20-30% of the music we hear sounds like it’s meeting any artistic standard which means the rest is payola. It would stand to reason that any big time black mogul currently involved is corrupt as well. So it’s hard to feel sorry for a guy who willingly threw in with these types knowing the situation clearly from the many events and roundtables I’m sure he attended.
Lucas going off on shit he don’t understand. This is trademark, not copyright. You can’t let someone use your trademarks without an agreement in place, even if you “cool” with them. If you do, you run the risk of losing your rights to the trademark for not protecting the trademark. And that’s no record industry BS, that’s business. He can call out everyone else lackin but can’t be accountable for his missteps…
Bro is just trying to generate free publicity for his crAPP