Royce Da 5’9 has been taking a tongue-lashing from former co-publisher of The Source Benzino over the past week — and now, he’s going head-to-head with the magazine’s founder Dave Mays.
Tensions were high on Tuesday night (January 5) when the two found themselves in the same Clubhouse room with Van Lathan, Page Kennedy, Just Blaze, Punch and King Los, among others. The topic of conversation revolved around the bubbling beef between Snoop Dogg and Eminem but began to go south after Mays brought up Slim Shady’s controversial “Foolish Pride” track, suggesting latent racism.
Although others in the room attempted to explain Eminem’s undeniable impact on Hip Hop culture, Mays appeared dismissive, saying, “he can say what he want to say.” That’s when Royce went in and fired back, “You can say what you want to say but that don’t mean it’s going to hold no merit. It don’t mean you dictate nothing.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPU8qGCW3A&feature=youtu.be
Mays continued, “I’m going to say my piece, and you can either fuck with me or not. Muthafuckas been fucking with me for 30, 40 years because of the shit I’ve done and said, and how I am. After someone suggested Mays and Eminem are “the same muthafucka,” Mays replied, “We are not the same,” to which Royce said, “You got that right bro. You are not the same.”
Mays circled back to “Foolish Pride” and maintained, “I don’t have none of that of that in my history. As far as fucking with the streets, fucking with authenticity in Hip Hop, it’s documented.” But Royce wasn’t having it and quipped, “Man, you fuck with Benzino! You don’t fuck with authenticity. I’ma kick your ass to the crowd. You fuck with cornballs.”
Royce Da 5'9 & Benzino's Beef Intensifies After 'Mr. 5 Mics In The Source' Threatens To Assault Joyner Lucas
As a moderator of the conversation, the Motor City MC had the power to remove Mays from the room which is what he did after he accused Royce of “sounding like a cornball.”
After he was out of the room, Royce added, “Enough of Dave Mays. Fuck out of here, muthafucka. Fuck he talking to, I’ll put death on your doorstep. I’m not divided, I’m not one with Dave Mays. Let’s get this shit straight. Ya’ll n-ggas in here acting like this n-gga at the cookout.”
Royce routinely stands up for his Bad Meets Evil collaborator, something Benzino loves to throw in his face. Their e-battle kicked off on December 29 and culminated with the ex-Love & Hip Hop: Atlanta personality threatening to physically harm both Royce and Joyner Lucas who hopped into the fray.
Listen to part of the Clubhouse argument above. It starts to heat up around the 11-minute mark.
Not sure what Dave thought was gonna happen on that app
Hats off to Royce and Just Blaze but they should have checked Mouse too who was also talking out of the side of his mouth. I would love these clowns to have the same energy towards those Black rappers who are dismantling this culture from within. So many artists subvert and disrespect those who paved the way for them.
Eminem doesn’t have to be your favourite rapper but his impact and contribution to hiphop culture shouldn’t be understated.
Diddy has exploited and double crossed every black person that he has done business with. Let’s talk about that.
16 year old Marshall Mathers was a stupid kid. Most of us are at that age. He will answer to his maker one day. Marshall Mathers since then has spotlighted battle rap in pop culture, brought hiphop to Middle class white kids (in turn increasing the money in this Black artform), he has played a big part in ensuring lyricism continues to sell, he has put on numerous black artists, has extensive philanthropic efforts in impoverished communities, he continues to pay homage to those MCs that come before him and most importantly he uses his huge platform to bring attention to racism.
Your GOAT or not, Marshall Mathers is one of them. I’m a Black hip hop head and I salute Eminem.
He was 18, not 16 and was considered an adult. He was conscious of the racist filth he was spewing. Stop making excuses.
That’s not an excuse. Racism is racism. However context is everything. Attonement is everything. He has attoned.
So what! Everybody has at one time or the other made stupid decisions / said some shits they later regret in past, so for you to keep bringing an old situation to judge someone now is just so corny & childish!
Is childish to keep bringing a man’s past to try to paint him as a monster. Eminem has done a lot for Hip-hop than a lot of this haters will ever do!
Lol Dave allowed Benzino to bully him to the point where he made a once great magazine into a joke and then subsequently lost that magazine! And he’s still scared of him. As for his beef with Em, then and now, it’s pretty clear it has to do with some notion of being viewed as a White icon in hip hop, which with or without Em was never gonna happen. Talking about ties to the streets? You were a backpacking fan who decided to hang with pseudo tough guys to feed your own weird infatuation of a life you were never a part of. So any street shit you did was not authentic out of need but rather a privileged little boy who wanted to seem down. It’s the same way Tekashi got down with a gang….signing up afterwards and not being able to handle what it entails. And most importantly, authenticity in Hip Hop??? Bitch please, that went out the window when you started selling album reviews, or giving mic’s away for free to guys you were scared of. 4.5 mics for a Made Men album??? That’s your legacy right there, that shit was so wack that there is nothing you could ever do to change it. You’re a bigger joke than Benzino, he’s delusional but at least his stripes are authentic, you’re just a pathetic hanger on who tried to pay his way into the culture.
Idk what they want from Em… he came into rap and brought his crew with him D12(all black), praises black hip hop legends every chance he gets, signs black artist to his label, collaborates with lots of other black artist in hip hop, donates to charities, stands up for black lives matters, etc… yet they say he’s not doing enough?? Lol. If you don’t like Em then just move on, stop trying to get everyone else to hate him cause that’s how you feel.
You can say alot about Eminem but one thing you can’t say is that he hasn’t contributed to the culture. Your kwazy if you think that he hasn’t. Alot of the animosity that comes at Em is because of his fans. I have a heavy disdain for them as well because unlike Eminem they have absolutely no respect for the culture of hiphop. Em’s popularity has giving these people license to think they have a seat at a genre they know nothing about. This to me is the real divide when it comes to Eminem. It got little to do with him as a person. It’s infuriating tryna talk rap with some Em fans because their knowledge of hiphop starts and ends with him. And in alot of hiphop circles, Em is simply not placed on a pedestal. But I will give him his respect as a lyricist. That’s one thing you can’t take from him.
Em is my favorite artist and I agree with everything you said here. Most of his fans are only fans of him and try to discredit other artists to back up their claim of him being great and it’s annoying as hell. I can’t attack someone for having a different taste or opinion. But as far as impact, Eminem definitely left a positive mark in hip hop and inspired and opened doors for a lot of great artists. It’s ok to enjoy more than one rapper lol.
Eminem is highly regarded in most hip hop circles, what are you talking about? These days the narrative has changed, but that’s because young people and new rappers are stupid and ruining hip hop. Also social media is filled with the vocal minority as it is usually used to complain and argue so the perception on many issues is ridiculously skewed. But among his peers, he has always been given credit. The people who hate on him generally tend to be cornballs that nobody cares about. If you name a great rapper most of the time that dude will say Em is one of the greats, and many of today’s greats looked up to him growing up. I hate when people blindly stan for him, but when you say “in a lot of hip hop circles…” you should add the counter “but in way more hip hop circles he is put on a pedastal”. He may not be on your list, that’s fine, everyone can like whatever. But most of the OGs and the new dudes who know how to rap love Em.
I just hate general comments about Em’s fans as if we’re all the same. Yes there are definitely some that fall right in line with what you said, but far far from all of them. Idk maybe word it ‘some’ of his fans. Just because a large majority of Em’s fans are white, doesn’t automatically mean they don’t know hip hop and it’s culture and enjoy other great artists. If people want to limit themselves that’s fine, but to throw everyone under the bus like that isn’t even fair and clearly not right. And really? Em’s not placed on a pedestal by hiphop circles…what circles are you even talking about? I’ve seen artist upon artist including almost all of the OG’s put him right up there. His legacy section on his wiki page even lists them all if you care to check something out before you say it. You just sound stupid man.
I mean, I am not for violence and don’t want to see anyone get hurt. But are these guys just gonna keep acting tough on internet forever? What’s the plan here? All bark.
dumb bullshit dude I swear.
Crazy. To think this is all due to the colour of Ems skin. Racism is big business! He’s been dealing with people trying to push him out ever since he stepped foot into the game it is what it is
How is this relevant in this specific instance. It was a white guy talking shit about Em and a Black guy defending him smh
When does he actually say the n word with the “er” because he doesn’t say it on “foolish pride”?
He has said worse shit about black folks by the way … “How many chocolaty jello pops can I possibly lace” and “words you turds better watch how you use yours” and that freestyle he talks about a girl looking like Jada Pinket and leaving her with a split rear from fucking her in the ass and torturing her … proper shady shit by the way …
You can see it as of he was “attacking” a black women or simply a women… colorism has your noodle.messed up little buddy
He doesn’t, it’s just another lie these slobs cling to because that don’t like whitey rapping.
MOUSE IS A FUCKING IDIOT WHO IS THIS CLOWN HE AINT SHIT
Clubhouse sounds like they took the worst of black twitter and just moved it over to zoom. Not interested.
Tone deaf people Tone deaf, anything related to Em is click bait … Bad news is the blood of the media good news is their anaemia so be smart about it. Shady records is Prolly behind this back and forth and it works like magic for Em everytime, why is he winning every year. Be smart people
Fun fact: Dave Mays is a small hat.
Dave Mays, Benzino and Mouse could to be wiped from the culture no one would even notice. Just ignorant, bitter has-beens acting like straight up idiots.