TDE spitter ScHoolboy Q may consider Queensbridge emcee Nas his favorite rapper, but according to the Los Angeles-based artist, he feels Nas lost the battle against Jay Z.
When asked who won the battle between Jay Z and Nas during an interview with Vlad TV, Q was quick to label Jay Z the victor in the battle between the two New York artists. While speaking on the beef between Jay and Nas, ScHoolboy Q commented on Jay’s ability to recruit others to “his roster” during the feud.
“Honestly, I think Jay Z won,” said Q. “Everybody say Nas won, but honestly I think Jay won. I mean Nas is my favorite rapper, but Jay Z he was pretty scandalous. He didn’t let it go. When Nas kinda was letting it go, Jay Z didn’t let it go. He was still throwing a little [jab] out there. And like adding people to his roster. Nas was going simply at Jay. Like one time he mentioned someone else…Jay felt some type of way after ‘Ether.’ You know what I’m saying?”
Q later commented on Nas being the underdog in his battle against Jay Z, who he referred to as the better rapper, and cited that point as being one of the reasons why people list “Ether” as one of the highlights in the lyrical feud.
“Cause Jay is the best rapper and everybody don’t wanna believe that Jay—even though Nas is my favorite, but Jay he’s like LeBron, Jordan, Kobe,” he said. “People just wanna say ‘no’ or hate. People just wanna hate on Kobe. Like ‘He’s old.’ Fuck that, he just had 35 points…Nas was such an underdog. People wanted Nas to win. But, I mean, at the end of the day more people said Nas won. So honestly, what I’m saying is kinda irrelevant. I’m just going off what I feel. Cause I think people are caught up in him being an underdog.”
Prior to speaking on the battle between Jay and Nas, Q spoke on his appreciation for Nas as an emcee and the rapper’s ability to craft material that he feels would be considered classic in today’s music.
“He was rapping crazy like in 93, 92,” said Q. “People don’t understand the verses he was kicking would be like something classic now. Like that was like 92 when people—when even Snoop Dogg and them was rapping ‘one, two, three, and to the four. Snoop Doggy Doggy and Dr. Dre is at yo door.’ You know what I’m saying? Nas was kicking some whole other shit around that time. Like he was reading a book as he was writing his raps. It was crazy.”
As one of the most talked about feuds in Hip Hop, the feud between Nas and Jay Z lasted several years and resulted in the release of several diss records including “Takeover,” “Ether,” and “Supa Ugly.”
Years after the feud between the two rappers was ignited, both Jay Z and Nas would go on to work at the same label together and collaborate on a handful of records including the Magna Carta Holy Grail track “BBC” and reportedly the Timbaland-produced “Sinatra In The Sands.”
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I agree. I like Nas more than Jay-Z but honestly. Yes Ether was the best track of the beef but none of Nas’ other tracks were even worth mentioning. Ether and Blueprint 2 weren’t as good as Ether but they were almost as good, and Super Ugly was pretty harsh. And Jay signing Nas was the nail in the coffin.
NaS ethering Jay-Z was the nail in the coffin with regards Jay ever being considered the GOAT. Also, he looks like a fucking camel.
I never said Jay was the GOAT, he’s not. He just won the beef IMO… 2 classic diss tracks and 1 good one > 1 classic diss track. Also, I don’t care if he looks like a camel. You shouldn’t either.
Nobody can respect him as an artist now. If you think Jay won that automatically tells me that you don’t understand lyricism. With regards to that, this dude’s music is corny and he is a garbage rapper.
NAS WON.
ITS BEEN OVER FOR A DECADE.
LET IT GO ETHER RAPED THE CAMEL END OF STORY.
A GOAT isn’t supposed to resemble a camel LOL
nas>jayz
As an overall artist, I prefer Jay-Z. To me, NaS has never really reach close to his pinnacle which was Illmatic. Nevertheless, NaS def won that battle. Q doesn’t understand how battle raps work – he just showing his age. Its the person who surprises who wins. Ether was pure genius. The Rockafella quip “You rock fellas”, the Dame-Jay-Z and the Biggie/Puffy association, the acussation that he keeps mentioning Biggie in all his songs, the “name a rapper I didn’t influence” line etc. I could go on. NaS basically asserted Jay-Z was his protg and its true. No Jay-Z with NaS. No matter how you look at it NaS got him good. The only thing Jay had was the line about Illmatic being his only great album…But then, NaS came back with Stillmatic which was probably his best album since Illmatic. In the long run, Jay-Z will have higher status in general but NaS won that battle easily.
Higher status in general than Nas? STFU FAGGOT and FUCK YOUR OPINIONS.
Jay also had a bunch of facts while Nas made up shit. Also, Nas made an entire song about Jay-Z while we are only talking about one verse from Takeover.
Man, fuck this. Jay and Nas have been weak for a while. Chingy would murder both these dudes right now. 2014 is Chingy’s comeback year. #FullDekk
Stop frontin Q, just because AB-Soul got the cosign from Jay-Z, does not mean he will work with you. Chill b. Just focus on your album, the writing aspect. Which Nas was ultimately be remembered for.
Man jay wishes he won that battle. I feel that this battle is still eating jay alive. I don’t give a fuck about how much money he got, people forgot that it’s a rap game not who’s got more money game. Lyrically nas spanked jay. Period. Your opinion is your opinion Q, but my opinion you and ab soul are sucking on jays dick way too much
DO I LISTEN TO THE DISS TRACKS AGAIN OR TRUST A DUDE THAT HIGH AS FUCK 99% OF HIS LIFE?
IF WE TALKING HIP HOP THEN NAS WON. ONLY REALLY JAY D RIDERS CAN HONESTLY SAY HE WON.
Schoolboy’s sick but son runs his mouth far too much about dumb shit.
First, who cares about some old ass hip hop feud?
Second, if everyone thinks Nas won, then how did Jay-Z one. People don’t say “You got Takeover’d” they say “You got Ether’d”.
JAY-Z WHOLE APPROACH WAS FACTUAL, LIKE HIS LIL WAYNE DISS . FACTS NIGGAS ,NO EMOTION
Idk, he showed a little emotion when he cried the first time he heard Ether.
Ja Rule > Jay-Z/Nas
50 ended Ja Fool!!!!!!!!
again……..Ja Rule > 50 Cent
Schoolboy’s whole argument is 3rd grade retarded. He keeps talking about how Nas was the underdog. How so?
Nas never acted like he was the underdog. “Name a rapper I ain’t influenced.” He was positioning himself as a legend speaking to a pupil, not as an underdog taking down the king. Schoolboy can rap but he isn’t all that intelligent.
Nas was the underdog. When Jay decided to go at Nas in The Takeover, no one was really thinking about him. Nas was coming off a series of professional missteps. Jay really helped to reignite his career. People loved the way Nas came back at the Jay. It was like a David and Goliath tale.
Dued got ethered and was so bitter now he plays the mainstream game an its so bad turned into a rapper.
Hold up…… Jay only had one verse on Takeover aimed at Nas while Nas made a whole track aimed at Jay? That one Jay-Z verse was hard as fuck. So hard that Nas had to go and make one of the best diss tracks ever to redeem himself.
…and did you motherfuckers forget that Jay basically ended Mobb Deep with the Takeover? No one talks about that. Not to mention the last two bars are the best end to a diss track.
“and all you other cats taking shots at Jigga
You only get half a bar. Fuck ya’ll niggas”
Just like he said “and I’ll let kama catch up with Jaz O”
how was nas the underdog? did this dude even know about rap at that time? nas was the underdog and jay was dickriding him all through his career.
Stop suckin Jay Z dick nikka! Jigga aint gon spill some quaters for your ass.
*DEAD*
NaS won, end of story.
Nas won the battle, but Jay won the war.
Jay ruined that overrated pop star nas’ career
LOL. A Jay Z fan has the balls to call another rapper a pop artist.
Hov has 5 classics while Nas only has 2!
Nas has 4.
Jay has 4 maybe….
Nas was dead in the water until his beef with Jay. FACT. His whole rebirth came off of Ether. Jay Z has NEVER been irrelevant.
Nas wasn’t dead in the water, he was a sleeping giant.
Thats true. The beef with Jay brought Nas back
ay is a Nas stan.
1. Jay-Z begged Nas and AZ to be on “Bring It On” song off the Reasonable Doubt album. But Nas turned it down.
2. Jay-Z begged Nas to be on Dead Presidents so Nas turned him down so he sampled him.
3. Jay-Z sampled Nas voice AGAIN on Crack Game/Rap Game or whatever the fuck.
4. Jay-Z used to rap like the fu-schnickens but tried to switch his shit up when he heard Illmatic
5. The fact that Jay even knew Nas’ child’s mother is stalker-ish
6. Jay-Z said “Who’s the best MC, Jay-Z, Biggie and NAS” before the beef
7. Jay-Z admitted to listening to ALL of Nas albums in Takeover
8. Jay-Z randomly showed up at the recording of “Black Republican” and put himself on that track (No, it wasn’t a planned collab)
9. Jay-Z had AZ in the video for Dead Presidents
10. Jay-Z started working with people like Frank Ocean and Jay Electronica after NAS shouted them out and worked with them first
11. Jay-Z tried to get Nas on the Empire State song AND REMIX but Nas refused both
12. Jay-Z invited Nas to perform at the Carnegie Hall show recently
I could go on forever…Because Jay has been on Nas’ dick forever. This is why Nas called him a “STAN”. For years this dude has been seeking out attention from Nas but Nas ignored him so he started sampling him and stalking him, trying to fuck with AZ and his child’s mother…Like a weirdo…Then he throws a little stalker fit because Nas has been shunning him, getting angry just like STAN from the song. Nas is mature now, he’s grown, I think at some point he just said “Okay, this dude loves me, he’s a fan, I might as well be his friend” lol It was never a real “beef” to win or lose. Jay-Z just wanted Nas to acknowledge him all along.
and how many tracks did Jay sample off Nas tracks.”dead presidents” ,NY state of mind ..wat more ..
Jay got murked.. im a fan of both of them but nas won that shit. takeover is dope but you cant fuck with ether. imagine being nas or jay listening to each track, ether was better lyrically and it wouldve cut deeper. all takeover had was a better beat and maybe better flow but its debatable
ether’s beat > takeover beat
Nas reprogrammed that man on Ether. That joint had the streets on fire to the point where it made Jay repackage his entire brand. First he broke from The Roc, then he started that grown and sexy shit, then he retired to take a corporate desk job. Ether sucked the hood right up out that boy.
haha this made me laugh. true but funny too.
nas/jay-z stans acting like their world done flipped upside down
We can spend days on this but honestly, whoever’s better comes down to opinion and taste. Jay-Z has epitomized the business, either you can find it impressive or be one of those fight-for-the-people “conscious” niggas who know he’s a corporate fiend and blah blah. then you have nas who’s undoubtedbly gifted but has financial issues straight up his ass.
to me, in a sense they both revolutionized the genre, in their own ways. Jay-Z had the most impact, but Nas’ legacy isn’t gonna go down quietly no matter what.
I’m getting tired of this argument. Some people don’t get it. “Nas won the battle but Jay won the war because he has more money and he signed Nas to the label making him Nas’ boss” WTF kind of statement is that? We are talking about HIP HOP, not business moves. And Nas Ether wasn’t a whole song aimed at Jay, it was 1 and a half verses. Nas doesn’t even startgoing in at Jay until halfway through his 2nd verse, the first verse is just Nas explaining the disrespect he has received in the game. As far as facts…..Nas spit crazy facts on Ether
1. “Hawaii Sophie fame kept my name in his music” Jay got his first break with Hawaiian Sophie and name dropped Nas a lot in his songs
2. “KRS already made an album called Blueprint” TRUTH
3. “You got the nerve to say that you better than BIG” Jay-Z started calling himself the Best Ever in his tracks
4. “You traded your soul for riches” Jay-z even admitted it on Black Album, “truthfully I want to rhyme like common sense, but I did 5 mill, I aint been rhyming like common since, I dumbed down my lyrics, doubled my dollars”
5. “Hawaiian shirts, hanging with lil Chase” Jay-Z was rocking hawaiian shirts back with Jaz-O in the early 90s
6. “Tae-Bo Hoe” Jay-Z was on MTV talking about training in boxing and working out
7. “You ass, went from Jaz to hangin’ with Caine, to Herb, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-ridin’ faggot, you love the attention” how can you not say this isn’t fact??
8. “Shaun Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick” Jay-Z adopted his name after Jaz-O his mentor at the time
9. “How much of Biggies rhymes gon come out your fat lips” Jay-Z drops a shitload of Biggie rhymes on his tracks
Nuff said so GTFOH with that “jay had facts, Nas had jokes” shit, Nas won fair and square. Now they are both legends and making music together. Just appreciate it
5.
From your above points I see you and many other blacks out there are just as lame as nas.
That’s your opinion. You can argue until kingdom come, but the reality is that people judge the outcome of the beef depending on their own personal contexts. Truth is not objective, it depends on how people experience it. So to some people Nas won, and to other people Jay Z won. No amount of arguing will change that!
Why do people hate JayZ?
I respect you if you just don’t like his music. But some people call him a sellout?
why is it that so many blacks will only celebrate you as long as you dont get too much success? I’ll tell you. because those of us who think that way are the REAL enemy. you allow someone to program the idea in your head that blacks can’t be but so successful before they are considered a sell-out. it’s like a tax bracket. you good until you pass a certain success level. then you are a sell-out. Yall don’t even realize that this is a slave mentality.
I’ve never seen a white person call Eminem a sellout lol
@nick t, survival ensured every cunt called him a sell-out.
“Nas doesn’t even startgoing in at Jay until halfway through his 2nd verse”
1st line of the song is “Fuck Jay-z” u faggot,
GTFOH stop tryna bullshit us into taking your opinion as fact
what a loser. jay fucked nas baby mama and left condoms on her baby seat. get the fuck outta here with this ficticious rap bullshit.
People really need to stop dick riding Jay Z. Nas killed him with Ether. So much so that “ether” has become a term for owning somebody, i.e. Jay Z got ethered. Jay definitely won the financial batlle, but Nas clearly won the hip hop battle.
Of the 2, who’s your favorite??
JAY-Z CAN BE HATED ALL DAY – HE DONT GIVE FUCK! HE ESTABLISHED HIS EMPIRE MARRIED BEYONCE AND IS A FATHER OF 1 BOY NOW. HE WENT BEYOND HIP-HOP.
NAS CAN BE HATED ALL DAY – HE DONT GIVE A FUCK! HE KILLED HIS CAREER DIVORCED KELIS AND IS A FATHER OF A BOY AND A GIRL. HE WENT BEYOND HIP-HOP.
JAY GETS TO KEEP HIS MONEY – NAS WON THE RAPBATTLE.
Ethered my ass! The question of who won the beef depends on personal opinion. Its not something objective. Sometimes hip hop fans are so fuckin dumb! Let it go!
He got so killed he still dropping number 1 albums like it’s easy. Jay-Z got so murked by Nas, that Nas works under Jay. Jay-Zs career got so killed, he is half of the richest couple in the entertainment industry. Jay lost so bad in the hip hop battle that your favourite rapper hold Jay in high regard (idgaf who your fave is. They like Jay)
So you Nas fans who just have to hate on Jay look ridiculous. Nas is 100% bonafide legend in the game. He is for sure one of the best to ever pick up a mic. Fact is though, Jay is the winner. Jay won hip hop. Hate it or love it.
Of the 2, who’s your favorite?
I use to think Q had some sense, but more and more I see this nigga is ignorant as fuck and be basing his opinions on shit the majority might think. Nigga, Jay aint about to get you niggas a 3pc wing and biscuit from Popeye’s!
How many of you are even old enough to remember when Jay was holding it down summer after summer??
How many of you remember how after the Blueprint dropped, every rapper had to get on a track with the high pitch voice sample??
What rapper has a better verse than Streets Is Watching verse 3?
Some of you dudes are acting like Jay wasn’t ridiculous with the flow. Man please. for every hot line from your favorite rapper, I’ll give you two hotter from Jay.
jay was definitely the hotter nigga back then but nas held more lyrical skill dude thats why nas was the better mc in that clash also jay had to get other niggas to back him
Jay was that guy, I would never take that from him, but in that battle HE LOST. PERIOD.
This guy is much more garbage than I’ve given him credit for. Bravo sir. You suck again, just like that garbage cypher verse. How embarrassing.
The only nicca rapping is the only nicca that has it… Fuck with Hov you know he got it!
I got it too… Two testicles and a scrotum that is!
nicca? Just spit them g’s. It won’t kill ya.
you never see jay fans shitting on nas in every jay z post.. its always the other way round. jay fans got nothing to prove because jay is already highly regarded. on the other hand i cant even enjoy a new nas song on this site without reading some nas fuckboy saying some sideways shit about jay because nas gets somewhat over looked and they dont think jay deserves all the love he gets.
i think nas dickriders are just insecure about nas’ place in hip hop and the fact that jay, his rival, is more esteemed and celebrated by pop culture. so they are constantly talking down on jay on every blog to make nas look better. nas already top 5 DOA, yet his groupies despise jay’s success to the point where they become bigger haters of jay than they are fans of nas himself…
Top 10 MCs dead or alive:
2pac
Biggie
Nas
Jay-Z
Eminem
DMX
Big Pun
Big Boi
Andre 3k
Ice Cube
We got the same list except for Big Boi and Ice Cube, I got Jadakiss and Big L. Props for the list either way though.
I shit on all those cats. But good list otherwise.
Ja Rule > everybody on that list
Several of those can be switched out for Ghostface >>>> Eminem, Big Boi, and Ice Cube.
Still a good list overall though
In Your Opinion.
Dead or Alive? … You Know Rakim THE GOD MC.. is still kicking and well, right?
Again, your list, your opinion, But Rakim was the Lyrical Beacon in the HipHop Galaxy Years before your list of greats.
We all know who really won that battle… the rap fans :):):)
Why would Vlad TV even ask such a question, this beef is dead and buried, and very much irrelevant to go back on it. Niggaz is moved past that shit, making money and leaving happy and here you have journalist who are still caught up in the past
Get a life, and move on!!!
It’s simple. Nas won the battle, Jay-Z won the war.
That’s the damn truth
im turned off by the school ** q shit,,i dont want that oxygen album ,.watever tha fuck it is…niga kissin jiga shit,,ether
makes no sense. by that logic there has to be more than 1 battle. if its only 1 wouldnt it be Nas winning the war too
i agree with Q.
The takeover >>>>ETHER
This School shit is wack,i dont feel him anymore
Nas is an mc, Jay is a rapper, know the differences.
If Nas was an MC, why can’t he rock a crowd like Jay does?
both have their own type of crowd, rock their own crowd in their own way.
yeah Jay has a bigger crowd, i believe this is because of the music jay is making more accessible for non-hiphop listeners. I would say the music its more towards pop.
Nas has a smaller group of fans, his music appeals more to hiphop listeners. of course Nas would like to reach more people but his music isn’t that accessible to the mainstream audience compared to Jay’s.
Flo-rida can rock a crowd. Doesn’t make him a good MC.
if u can claim Jay beat Nas then it’s safe for me to claim ScHoolboy Q as Kendrick’s backup dancer… bitch nikka just lost a fan with that pop culture bullshit
Dude’s completely right, Nas is a weak ass, everlosing faggot.
fucken cunnt
dude trust me I’ve done worst copy/paste shit on this site. I’m the king of that
This is an easy argument. Ether shitted on Jay. Period. Listen to Jay-Z interview afterwards. Dude sounded like he wanted to cry. Even his right hand man Memph Bleek even said it was a dark day for the Roc when Ether dropped. You know its a killer when your own squad said that.
Yeah it didnt end his career or nothing, but straight battle wise Nas won clearly. And that fact that Jay kept trying to come back with more wack disses made it even worse for him. It was like ok dude stop trying its over. And no Jay didnt sign Nas you idiots.
nas got bodied on super ugly
how come no one says u got super ugly’d
Just release your fucking album already
know those dudes who look tired, unhealthy, broke and unshowered with their huge cheap broken, fixed with tape headphones on the subway ? those are the trolls of this site.
Are you dead ass right now Schoolboy Q? Many people were not rooting for Nas because he was an underdog. It was more of seeing what he was going to say because it was a while before he responded. Nas came out before Jay and Jay-Z really blew when Nas was 3-4 albums in. Jay-Z is really the late bloomer in the scenario so it was only right, Jay-Z had to go through Nas to get the crown. So “Ether” it was a snatch back of the crown. Nas already had the crown. No matter what people want to say, Nas is the better MC. Nas doesn’t talk about the drugs and hustle as much as Jay and Nas isn’t as arrogant and arrogance is something that truly helps in Hip-Hop today. But on skills alone, Nas is the best. Jay-Z can make money all day long but Nas has a catalog of higher quality.
Jay won the battle of social status, when it comes to business, relevance, appearances, finances etc. But Nas, won the verbal battle, because he’s a better lyricist, and that’s just fact.
Jay Z raps about dumb superficial shit never heard him make a song about the kids he’s a devil..Nas is a all around great who gives you more food for thought Divine lyrics..Jay Z is a selfish devil and the fact that most of yall praise this nigga who call hiself Jahova yall some dumb ass sheep..
agreed
Q you should keep your mouf shut the more you talk u loose fans u not great u sound like a DUMB IGnorent person lay off the dope boy.
All i see is ppl mentioning Ether this Ether that… i guess everyone forgot about Takeover?
i prefer Takeover then Ether thats for sure. banging track too.
No-one is saying ‘you have been TAKEOVERED, its etherd.
^ excatly
Please!
Last i check jay-z tookover nas by signing him lol.
Congratulations on being the one person who thought takeover was better then ether. You get the Schoolboy Q award of mental retardation.
ya one person..learn how to count moron/
pretty sure schoolboy’s opinion is waaay more valid then urs too..
something u want to get off your chest, lil buddy? LOL
Y’all must’ve forgot that “Super Ugly” ended it all
Yeah, when Jay’s own mother made him apologize after…LOL! How embarrassing is that? Even she knew Jay crossed the line.
^ excatky –
Ether kills everything.
Best diss record of all time/
I pretty sure this is how the beef ended, if you can’t remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDDbEJAEIg
Do u all not remember Jay MURDERD AND I MEAN MURDERED Nas on the song “Blueprint 2″ on the album The Blueprint 2”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF??
Bro – Ether killed Jay. That was it – battle over.
took near 2 years to respond and jay says he don’t write anything down nigga is a lying fuck-boy. nas>>>>jay and these days jay aint even top 10 nas still as good as illmatic days
fu*k all you faggots, Nas murdered Jay on 2 Songs, the first one was in 1996 an underground song called ‘No Love Lost’ search it and listen to it. It was on Shaqs LP but the Nas Verse was cut off for whatever reasons. Jay’s verse was way better than his todays bullshit, but Nas fucking killed this nigga, and 5 years later he straight killed him again so fuck all you negus that say jay won!!!
how did jay win when he said he got stronger after ether.
The same way Rocky got stronger after fighting the giant Russian dude – but he still kicked his ass. Nas is great. Jay is greater. That garbage ass Ether crap. smh.
Dudes a Donkey for that one. jay won hahhha ..
Don’t know about that Q…Ether was a tuff tune..
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People always talk about ether, but the first diss track nas had over that Rakim beat was ill as hell too.
MAN WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY A MOTHA FUCKA HAS???
I THOUGHT THIS IS HIP HOP… YOUR GIFT AND LYRICISIM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GET. JAY MIGHT BE BETTER AT MAKING MONEY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MUSIC, LYRIX, AND STORYTELLING, NAS IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL.
THE TAKEOVER GOT ETHERED, AND SUPERUGLY GOT BURNT DOWN BY THE LAST REAL NIGGA ALIVE.
Typing in CAPS is annoying. It’s not about the money, and Jay Z killed Nas. But folks love to hate you when you’re on top.
Sound waves taste weird.
Nas is the greatest of all time! Ether the greatest battle record of all time! One battle record, it was over! Enough said…Nas won this battle with a better concept and word play. Jay used elementary words and went after the dudes baby mother. Too cold, it is not a battle on wax then, it becomes personal. It is a code out there as men, we don’t go after people’s baby moms and someone’s mother. Keep it on wax! Ether was intelligent. It was a honor to listen to. Shit is a classic!
Nas is on a mantel all ready! Dude is enshrined! He is the true King of New York period! He gives a rat ass because of record sales and who has more! We are not part of that cloth. We are from the streets! Hip hop is from the streets! Nas tells stories that you can imagine and feel the real ness! Dude is deadly with a pen! You can’t mess with that!
i might be the biggest nas fan on this site (pause). i was unsure if nas could come back after “takeover”. but nas DID actually win the battle over jay z. even jay z admits it. they even have the video on youtube with beanie sigel saying how shook jay z was going in the studio after that time
I’m a big Jay Z and Nas fan and I can honestly come to the conclusion that Nas won the battle. Not based on my personal feelings, but based on how each one of them went into the battle. On Ether, Nas was more less stating facts about things Jay Z did or just kept it real about some fake shit he was on whereas Jay Z just took jabs at Nas, Made fun of him and situations like that with his Baby Momma. If you really break down the lyrical depth, Ether is a Harder Track and Nas really won on the elements of battle. A lot of people on here don’t understand that or what battling or being an emcee is all about. That’s why Kendrick did the Control verse to get cats back on the real hip hop shit
funny you would say tha cause thats what I always argue for with regards to the beef but vica versa on the contrary I believe tha jay came with the facts on takeover whereas nas came with jabs on either… calling jay-z gay, ugly,fat lips, I rock ho’s your rock fellaz i can go on forever whereas on takeover jay z mention nas falling off from illmatic (which he admits was classic), had a spark when u started but now u straight gabarge which at the time was public perception everyone was sayin nas had switched from his original style for a more commercial feel. On ether nas says “U my brother u traded your soul for riches” as an insult 2 jay z, if u listen to Hate Me Now by Nas he’s basically defending why he is selling out which is what he blaed jay z for.. after a track like You Owe Me Nas should not even be aloud to point out sellouts
as to who won the beef will always been divided based on individual perception, one thing for sure though that beef basically resurrected Nas career
everyone defednding nas saying he’s an MC and jay is a rapper might be too young to remeber that jay z once challenged nas to a battle but nas declined opting for them to rather release albums on the same day for the fans to decide based on sales (this is your so called i do it for tha art and not the money nigga)… even though these albums did not come out the same day jay sold more
you bring up a fair point @lowprofile but again thats just my personal opinion, I believe Nas took it a level deeper with Ether than Jay did with his track. And again this is coming from a fan of both artists. I’m not a “Jay Z only and don’t like Nas” fan or a “Nas only and don’t like Jay Z fan, I have collections from both artist. I respect Jay Z as a good hip hop artist and he has unprecedented live performances at his shows. In a whole Jay is probably the top of his game regarding live performances, overall success and music. But lyrically as far as deep lyrics and overall emcee I have to go with Nas. Just a personal thing, Nas has said some really deep stuff that helped me in my life. And Jay has too but Nas is just a little deeper lyrically to me. And I just find Ehter to be more of a battle contender title.
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To be fair, the fact is when Jay challenged Nas to a public battle, public opinion was that Nas had won the beef with a KO and it seemed Jay was trying to save face. Anyone, know anything about fighting or beef is that you don’t accept a challenge from a combatant you just destroyed.
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Jay won the battle… Nas had the upper hand by responding. He had a chance to listen to Jay’s “Takeover” and sit and contemplate about how to go about making a record. Then when Jay challenged him to a real battle, he declined and wouldn’t respond anymore. How Jay really killed Nas is by making everything he said come true tho. “R-O-C WE RUNNIN’ THIS RAP SHIT”… How many years later and Jay is still runnin this rap shit. Nas couldn’t sell 100,000 copies right now. Look at Jay’s influence in the game (Kanye, Jeezy, Ross, Rhianna, Cole) all coming from under Jay’s wing. What happened to Nas’ career? Jay told him “All that thug rappin and gimmicks, I will end it”… That became reality. Ether was just filled with a lot of funny ass lines making fun of Jay but Jay in real life destroyed Nas’ career…
The word ether and stan(I know Slim shady did the track but nas took the word Stan to whole new level of use) are used on a regular basis cause of nas