Brother Ali is the latest emcee to enter the ring for an interview with Nardwuar the Human Serviette.

During their conversation, Nardwuar took his usual approach of passing off records to the Minneapolis, Minnesota rapper, setting it off by gifting a Blaxploitation album and an MC Skat Kat cassette tape.

Before discussing his performances with MF Doom, Ali reflected on battling Sage Francis at Skribble Jam in 2000. “When I first met him, I was there for blood,” he said. “He did play mental mind games, I feel like that’s how he won. When we were about to start the battle, he was acting friendly and had a wig on. He was trying to come off non-confrontational and everything. … When we got into the battle, he hit me with the best albino line there’s ever been. He said, ‘Fat man, confused black man with the Michael Jackson disease.'”

Watch the full interview below.

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