Former Bad Boy artist Shyne has repeatedly said his actions in the infamous Club New York shooting of 1999 were a mistake. In a brand new conversation with Fat Joe, the “Bad Boys” rapper is not only reliving the night, he’s standing by his decision-making.
“What was happening for me in my life in my time was a miracle, cause that incident in Club New York almost ended my career,” Shyne told Joe over Instagram Live. “All I used to pray for, I know I defended myself … I defended my friends.”
Looking back on that December 1999 night, Shyne remembers the events which led up to the shooting when Puff got into an altercation with Matthew “Scar” Allen. Shyne knew of Allen and his associates and immediately considered the protection of all parties over anything else.
“I was in fear for my life,” Shyne began around the 6-minute mark of the conversation. “Scar who was the instigator … I know Scar from Brooklyn. Those are my guys. I didn’t have a problem with him; that wasn’t my beef. That was Puff’s issue. They had a problem with Puff for whatever reason. Scar, Nino and the entire Brooklyn crowd was in Club New York. I seen them, it was all love but when they started arguing with Puff … I know what these Brooklyn guys are capable of. I know what Scar is capable of. I know what Nino is capable of. I know what happens once these arguments start. Once they start, it becomes a problem — a serious problem. Once he starts talking crazy, yeah, I became afraid for my life. Once he says it’s about to happen then it’s about to happen.
“I seen somebody reach for a gun and I reached for my weapon and I defended my friends and myself. Cause once he starts firing, once whoever else pulls out a gun and starts firing, it doesn’t stop there.”
When asked about his decision-making, Shyne held no qualms about why he decided to pull out a gun inside the club. After firing shots, Shyne fled with Diddy, Diddy’s then-girlfriend Jennifer Lopez and a bodyguard in a Lincoln Navigator. In the aftermath, there weren’t thoughts about being thankful within the group — only survival.
“I’m thinking about saving my life,” Shyne told Joe. “I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. I think for [Puff], he’s a corporation. And he’s thinking about the corporation. So obviously, something like that affects the corporation terribly. At the time, I was thinking life or death. We didn’t have an opportunity for him to say, ‘Thank you for saving my life, saving Jennifer’s life … for saving all our lives.’ Cause he was thinking about the corporation. Did I jump the gun? Absolutely not.”
Ultimately, Diddy and Shyne were tried in separate trials. Armed with high-priced attorneys, Diddy was acquitted of all charges. The same couldn’t be said for Shyne as he was found guilty on two counts of assault, reckless endangerment and gun possession. Many chastised Diddy for not helping out Shyne during his trial as Nas famously alluded towards on his 2002 song “Purple,” rapping, “I don’t like the way P. Diddy did Shyne with different lawyers.”
Eventually, the two would reconcile over the issue.
“Puff apologized, he did apologize to me for that when we met in Paris,” Shyne continued. “He did say that he could have handled it better but he was under a lot of pressure from the lawyers to throw me under the bus. That’s exactly what Benjamin Brafman, Johnnie Cochran and the entire “Dream Team,” that was their position. Cause Puff is a corporation, he’s a half-a-billion dollar corporation. So nobody is gonna sacrifice the corporation for anyone else.”
Diddy Endorses Former Bad Boy Star Shyne's Political Aspirations
The relationship between Shyne and Diddy has improved since Shyne’s 10-year prison stint and later deportation to his native country of Belize. Although the two briefly feuded, the two have smoothed things out, culminating in Shyne’s brief appearance during the Bad Boy Family Reunion tour in 2016.
In July, Shyne announced he was running for House of Representatives and got an endorsement from none other than Diddy himself.
“BELIZE I’m so proud of my brother @shyne_bz and the journey he is on,” Diddy wrote. “He is running for the House of Representatives and needs your support.”
Diddy is still free and out here r@9!n9 niggaz like they never left prison and you still have respect for a man who left you high and dry twice.. you’re insane.
And that’s how we know Diddy sorry dirty ass did it. He probably put this fella on a monthly ‘shut tha fxck up’ wage
If that were true then he’d wouldn’t be broke and living back in Belize. Yes he’s got family in politics there that got connection but they’re not wealthy like H0M0 Diddy is. Diddy is notorious for screwing people over… Almost everyone who left Bad Boy Records left with absolutely nothing since he owns all publishing/masters/royalties… Craig Mack died broke….Ma$e still can’t buy back his own masters. You honestly think Diddy really got money aside for Shyne (Rhyme Like Dough) ? Diddy only cares about himself….Diddy will only do things that will help his image or his profit margins. Once you’ve outlived your usefulness for that, he’s drops them like he always does aka the Bad Boy Curse.
And that is EXACTLY WHY Biggie was LEAVIN’ Diddly!! He ALREADY sold His Pub 2 Him for a Milli! He was starting His Own Businesses & Label, then all of a sudden was assassinated/sacrificed…..
Damn. Shyne’s that dude fr. Happy about his current life.
I thought the fat Joe podcast show thing .. is only available on *tryna remember* a few specific cable or internet TV package .. but now this sez it’s via gram ? Plus YouTube link ? .. is it the full episodes on YouTube .. I NVR use gram. Ain’t got cable. It didn’t appear in my YouTube feed.
Wen originally announced it was said is only on cable tv / online package thing .. now here sez it’s on gram n yt .. maybe I’m old but this annoys me . Wen ppl announce it’s only here, then u gotta b detective n look there
Nigga, learn how to write please…I mean… hot…damn…that was extremely painful to try to read that I had to reach for a 40 oz and I don’t even drink. The second thing is…Nigga..What the hell are you talking about? Be clear when you ask a question. Actually know what it is that you’re talking about at least..I think if you retype your post again with these improvements, you’d have better luck getting answers to your questions.
Yeah man throw the N word……and a bunch of added unnecessary punctuation in there ……and it becomes way more intelligent.
Nigga, Shut Up
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You sound even more stupid while trying to school someone……….. Wait for it………. Wait a little longer…………………….. It makes you look like a condescending POS.
Shit!!! You got me rolling!!! I need an aspirin!!!
Almost ended his career? It ended when that shit happened, and the sad part is that J-Lo and Sean wiped him off their shoe like some dog shit and have gone on without thinking about him in the past 20 years. Damn, it’s been actually 20 years.
Read the article next time!
What gives you the impression that I didn’t read it? Because I’m calling bullshit on Shyne’s silly proclamation that his career didn’t end when he shot up a club and went to prison for ten years for his label boss who he for years called out for doing him dirty by blaming it all on him? That article dickhead? I don’t have to read about shit that I saw happen. Just think, this was like a couple of years after B.I.G. had gotten murdered behind Sean’s fuck shit, and he fucked another young man’s life up irreparably by putting him in the middle of his nonsense.
Puff should have thrown him a bag for that. Like a mil
Puffy is a bitch he saved their life and went to jail kept it 100 it’s with more ?
I’m assuming he did. No other way to explain Shyne meeting up with him fr. Just to talk? FOH, I need a BAG for saving your life and sacrificing mine…
Why so much anger at Diddy? Shyne said OTHER people started it and that he (Shyne) finished it. And now Diddy is the bad guy for what exactly? I can tell most of y’all never been in a hood situation in your lives. Shyne shot a gun, Diddy didn’t, what’s he supposed to do go to jail with Shyne for something he didn’t do? Or have the same lawyers so he would get judged guilty by association. Shyne is a man, he made a decision and lives with the consequences as he should. You may not like Diddy for other things but this situation ain’t one of them
Cuz Diddy is a cowardly shady H0m0 who should never have been trusted in the first place.
YOU WATCH YOUR FUCKING MOUTH PUNK
I never really liked Shyne as a rapper to begin with but, his career definitely ended after this shooting lmao I don’t know why he thinks it didn’t. At least the rap career. I don’t think I could take someone serious in a political position knowing that he shot up a club.
but you can take these fake ass liars serious as politicians? wait until you do something you need to leave behind. your mind may be different then. everyone can change.
Big ups to my Belizean Family/Brooklyn Fam . I was in my early 20’s when this incident took place. I thought this whole thing was a fucked up terrible situation for my fam Shyne cause at the time he was sitting on top of the world. But through time I have followed him and witnessed how fam weathered the storm and changed his thought process and has risen above the occasion to overly become the living testimony that he is today. He had to go back to his roots and dig deep into his soul and lift his hands to God so that he allowed himself to become a living testimony of the powers of God or his higher power. Thank you . Shyne you are a beautiful representation of our people( Long Live Belize)and I am so very proud of you. Much love to you.
God is so boss
His debut album, his only real album in my opinion, was dope. As far as just raw potential, I think he was the most talented MC Puff ever had. He was a great writer, had a unique flow, strong presence, and was an educated gangster rapper, which is rare. He understood the politics of the street better than his counterparts and explained it vividly. Great story teller. He was never able to really max out what he had though. He came out of the clink sounding weird, I don’t know what that was about.
I agree, but G-Dep and his album are HIGHLY slept on too…
Word. G-Dep was dope. I think Shyne had a certain presence and power in his words that G-Dep didn’t have, but nonetheless good call, G-Dep was a dope MC.
Yeah, Shyne and G-Dep were both dope, but I hope you meant that Shyne was the most talented MC Puff ever had, OTHER THAN Biggie.
A lot of shootings happen out of fear. When you know you’re in a situation with somebody who don’t give a fuck, it forces your hand, or you become a victim. Props to Shyne for admitting this instead of that goofy, fake rapper talk…
Thank God for you
I wonder how many would bother posting if they banned lol and lmao…. Lol
Rofl
“id rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6…”…quote of the day….sometimes when dudes in that kinda situation in that particular moment….maybe it does all boil down to who is quicker on the draw…no time to think shit over n over before making a move…he did what he thought was the right thing to do in that moment and dealt the consequences thereafter….and who knows, if the other side busted first, maybe there wouldnt be no shyne running for Rep in Belize today lol
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