In an interview with Ozone Magazine, Cash Money Records founder Birdman, also known as Baby, confronted R&B recording artist, R. Kelly, insisting that past collaborations resulted in financial debt.
When asked “What’s the worst business investment you’ve made throughout your career”, Baby replied “Probably the worst investment I did was fuckin’ with R. Kelly. That was a waste of my time. I could’ve made money if I wasn’t fuckin’ with that clown-ass nigga.”
In 2003, Baby was slated to drop a joint album with R. Kelly for Best of Both Worlds II, a follow up to the 2002 album featuring Jay-Z, but the album never took off the ground.
Ozone Magazine also addressed the recent rumors circulating around Drake and Lil Wayne. When asked if Drake writes for Wayne, Baby responded, “C’mon, man. Wayne don’t even write, man. Honestly Wayne don’t write. I don’t know how he do that shit he do, but don’t no nigga do it for him. Wayne don’t play that shit, he never did. We ain’t with that shit. That’s cheatin’ to me, when you’re trying to be great. When you’re just an artist that wants a hot record, that’s something different, but when you’re trying to be great you ain’t bout to let no nigga write for you, cause you don’t wanna lose none of the credit. Wayne wants to be the best to ever do it. To be the greatest ever takes your skillful thoughts, not another person’s.”
Brian “Birdman/Baby” Williams dropped his fourth studio album Pricele$$ in November of 2009. The project, which debuted at number three on the U.S. Billboard Top Rap Albums features Drake, Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Bun B and more.
baby = disgusting nigga
and i forgot
of course drake writes for lil wayne, otherwise how yall would explain the shitty lyrics he has ?
you don’t know shit
except Problem wrote the hook on Red Magic by The Game ft. Lil’ Wayne. sooooo there goes any truth to birdman
People really should kill the whole ghostwriting thing about Wayne. At this point, do you really think he would risk his image by using a ghostwriter.
If you listen to some of wayne’s recents verses and hooks you can hear the parallels between Drake and his lyrics. Damn near every artists that wayne worked with closely somehow he “adapts” or “adopts” their style going back to Juvie/B.G, Gillie Da Kid, Curren$y, now Jae Millz and Drake. So come on, Anybody who thinks Wayne is 100 about puttin’ together his own lyrics is blind to those facts. You can go from “500 Degres” to “The Carter” series, it doesn’t add up. You can’t dramatically change your style like that, it has to be gradual…
Definitely agree with the Curren$y comparison…the “i’ve got more jewels than your jewler” is a Curren$y line. and you know he was into Spitta’s shit cause he shouted out Hot Spitta on damn near every other track back in 05-06. Not sayin spitta wrote his shit, but spitta is a ghostwriter and you could see his influence on wayne back then. Wayne seems to emulate who he is working with. Whether it’s drake, curren$y, hot boys, or even qtip.
didn’t jay z change his style come on people can improve
ya jay did change his STYLE, but jays first album was classic… 500 degrees not so much lol…jay’s style changed, but his lyrics have always been sick… top 5 in my opinion… not sure if drake is writting or whatever… but one day weezy went from garbage to pretty ill… its either a ghost writter or the drugs that changed him, alot of peeps forget about the drugs possibly influencing his rhymes… the man himself says he cant quit them cause they help him do his thing… the moment dude became a fiend, he got 100 times better… best rapping fiend in the game… mans a stone cold fiend yall… how peeps rep a custy with dreds is beyond me… dude can rhyme, no question… but how peeps feel him like i felt pac ill never know… unless they custies too…
wayne did have a dramatical change in his style and lyrics…def something goin on unless one day he woke up and all the sudden had better lyrics..style and a different voice
wayne must of woke up one day with better lyrics, atyle and a dif voice haha regardless wayne not that great
like i do like some wayne songs, but i do believe wayne had a few ghostwriters through out his careers, theres no way from the first carter where hes flow was garbage and less then a year he already did carter 2 where hes lyrics just improved out of nowhere…idk,,,if i had a shit lot of money and after so many albums, i would say fuck it iam tired of writing shit, ill pay someone to write my songs…
fuck lil wayne
im mad its the same person leavin different comments wit a different name…like no one is gonna noice SMDH… C4
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im mad its the same person leavin different comments wit a different name…like no one is gonna noice SMDH…..C4
DONT FORGET THAT BOW WOW IS ON YOUNG MONEY NOW. HE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF NIGGAZ GHOSTWRITING FOR HIS USELESS BITCH ASS! SO GET REAL PEOPLE. MAYBE DRAKE HAS BEEN WRITING FOR WAYNE FOR A LONG TIME? FUCK THE BULLSHIT, IM NO IDIOT. ITS A MANUFACTURED PROCESS THAT THEY FUCKIN WITH AND THEY ARE WINNING THESE DAYS CAUSE OF FAGGOT ASS NIGGAZ LIKE YOU BUYIN ALL THE GARB. I KNO A FEW BITCH NIGGAZ THAT TOLD ME POINT BLANK ” IM BUYIN THANK ME LATER MAN” AND THAT SHIT DONT SIT WELL WITH ME. ITS A SAD GENERATION OF VERY WACK MUSIC. TRUST -FG
One of them writes for each other. Check the link. Wayne’s style changes so much I think that it’s Drake writing cause that nigga been writing for a long time. Check the link and you’ll see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JuuMXcXtQU
how could drake be writing for wayne wayne has put out hell of verses he be on way too many songs for anyone to write for him i like drake but he’s allready recycling verses he can’t be writing for wayne its rare to hear wayne have the same verse on more than one song not saying he hasn’t but its very rare that he does thats too much material to have a ghostwriter
lmao at baby’s comment about r.kelly…hahahaha. but on the real, even tho i, as a fan, lost my interest in mr. f baby in recent years. he’s always been able to spit, i was a fan back before cash money went national and wayne wasnt even cussing yet. he was still bringing the heat as a youngsta(although technically, he still is), so if u look at his start until now, u can see the progress. a lot of people look at the 2000’s and think that wayne just exploded out of the sky, but u have to go back to the mid 90’s(thats right, he’s been doing this that long) to get a tru feel of his progress. i dont rock wit the boi like i used to, but if i hear something i like, then i bump it. if not, then i keep it moving(the haters should do the same)
also, somebody should tell dx that jay-z and r.kelly did a follow up to that 2002 lp. maybe it’s just me, but i didnt hear about r and baby till after the 2004 lp from jay and r
baby shut the fuck u had ghostwriters your whole damn career (Gillie) so what makes us think wayne aint have somebody help his out and about the R.Kelly situation if i were him id rather work for Jay-Z then u 2 lol u can’t rap
baby shut the fcuk up u had ghostwriters your whole damn career (Gillie) so what makes us think wayne aint have somebody help his out and about the R.Kelly situation if i were him id rather work for Jay-Z then u 2 lol u can’t rap
Really Bryan?
I woulda thought you regretted signing TQ or Mack 10.
Damn.
man what the fuck is he on, drake done wrote for wayne, and a coupla other niggas done wrote for him too, don’t give me that off the top shit
Every body knows that Wayne & Birdman(Lil’ Wayne’s Butt Buddy) had ghost writers. Gillie da Kid didn’t wake up not gettin paid 4 no reason, exposin Wayne & Birdman down in the 504 back in 2006-07.
Help me out yall, but is hiphop the only genre where it is expected that the artist write his/her own lyrics??
MUSIC IS MUSIC. if i like it i’ll listen to it so right now ima listen to that rebirth
MUSIC IS MUSIC. if i like it i’ll listen to it so right now ima listen to that rebirth.
Is Baby bitchin’ about ghostwriting when he himself doesn’t write his own rhymes?
/irony
baby & his butt-buddy wayne are the coon-ification of Hip Hop.
Fuck them and fuck all that wack shit.
hahah after r kelly did a album with jayz why would he do one with baby??? he must of told baby U SUCK loll. u should of said tq or what were they names???? boo and gotti?? lol
so i guess u cheat everytime u rap then cause i kno u dont write anything. and never did.
just listen to wayne in the hot boy days he didnt rap like this u could tell turk was writing his shit, now he the best rapper ever lmfao people are blind in the ears
LoL!!! dat! R. Kelly diss was funny as shit…. alright imma leave it alone.. in other words I think drake writes for wayne cause I swear sometimes I can’t tell who am hearing on a drake ft lil wayne track or a lil wayne ft drake track! I no know right? …Drake got cards though abit harsh to say that nigga aint shit
Glad to see the industry brainwashing is not as strong as it used to be.
500 Degrees is Five Thousand Degrees Different from The Carter..thats not progression…. thats a face lift.
That’s a two year difference. Its not impposible for someone to progress lyrically in two years, come on now. Ya act like he hasnt been in the music industry for around 10-15 years. Have you ever thought it being the other way around that wayne writes for drake? The man lives in the studio.
There are smart dumb ass people commenting. Dumb asses it’s entertaiment.
Only reason this whole “Wayne dont write his own shit” stuff got started is cus
Gillie stepped out and said he wrote for wayne.
I got two points to make for that.
1. I find it hard to believe that you wrote hits for another nigga but couldnt
write a hit for yourself.
2. When Juvie and BG were dissin Baby and Wayne a few years ago, there are several interviews where Juvie and BG were asked if they had ever seen anyone write for Wayne.
Both of these niggas called wayne all kinds of shit but both of them said they had never seen anyone write for Wayne. Never. Now if two niggas that considered themselves enemies of Wayne but were also in the studio with him countless times, say theyve never seen anyone write for them, why in the hell do you think you know someone is writing for him? And think about this, greed is a universal emotion. As big as wayne has gotten in the past three years, Dont you think someone wouldve made a sly comment about writing for him???
And to whomever said 500 degrees is completely different from carter 3 so therefore its obvious someone is writing for him….Are you an idiot?!
When you have 6 to 7 albums and youre rappin the SAME shit the SAME way, then your shit gets old and it shows no progression. Just ask 50. 4 albums straight with no progression eventually leads to you getting worse instead of better.
As for Baby and R. Kelly.
Musically R. Kelly is a legend and can headline a tour by himself right now if he wanted to. Baby couldnt fill a high school auditorium unless Wayne, Drake, and the rest of young money was on the bill as well. When he say he lost money, he mean he lost the chance to mooch off of some of kellys profits
Um the point made was about 500 Degrees and The Carter Series was not just one album. Of course rappers should have progression but his beginning style and his Carter era style aren’t consistent with each other. Most rappers who improve with their lyrics you can always hear their older style(s) within their current one. I’m not hater, it just seems that people don’t want to acknowledge those first three albums. Oh yeah, B.G. and Juvie weren’t in the studio with Wayne on a regular basis after they split so they don’t know what’s goin’ after that. Gillie got with shitty labels thoughout his career sometimes that don’t matter but a lot of times it’s the main reason artists don’t get big.
Man Fuck This Pussyass Weezy Haters, Y’all Just Mad Cause U’r Favorite Rapper Ain’t In The Same Postion As Lil Wayne, Fuckin Hateing Ass Niggas, Who Ever Thinks Drake Writes For Weezy The Rap God A Is Fuckin Dumbass Foreal!, Drake & Wayne’s Style Is Different Ass Fuck!, Look Out For That Mixtape Suffix 2 Wayne Gonna Drop It, Right Before He Goes To Jail!, And Fuck birdman Old Ass Nigga Gonna Retire!
I can tell when I listen to Wayne if it was written by Gillie, Curren$y or Drake.
Tha Carter – Gillie Da Kid
Tha Carter II/ Dedication/ Dedication II/ All the good mixtapes – Curren$y
Tha Carter III/ Dedication 3/ Rebirth – Drake
Didn’t anybody noticed that he signed Drake and all of a sudden he’s singing? Dude is straight garbage.
DIDNT ANYBODY NOTICE YO LAME HATING ASS DONT LIKE WAYNE BUT HAD TO COME READ ABOUT BABY N POP OFF WITH THAT DUMB SHIT THAT DONT MAKE SENSE. U SOUND STUPID, DUMB, RIDICULOUS, AND PITIFUL AS FUCK. CURRENSY NIGGA, CURRENSY, CURRENSY WROTE THE DEDICATION 1 AND 2 AND THE CARTER 2. “CURRENSY”, IF THAT NIGGA WROTE THE DEDICATION THEN WHY DONT HE WRITE HIS SELF ONE. DAMN I HATE HATERS, YOU MAFUCKAS DONT EVA GIVE UP.
Either way if they are getting ghostwriters they need to spend some better money. Fucking commercial bullshit. Baby & R. Kelly?! Kells is a legend and Baby is the whackest cat ever to step into the rap game.
co-sign
Well if Drake isn’t writing for Wayne, that confirms that he’s a Wayne and Kanye swagger jacker. Got the flow and corny lyrics down pat.
Kanye aint corny so shut the fuck up below me. any way baby is in his late 30s if not early 40s and still acts like hes lil waynes age. grow the fuck up i mean really whens the last time u seen him present himself like a grow man no a grow ass man. whens the last time u seen him classy in a suit or some shit………… dont worry i’ll wait. he will never be in the same class as russell simons and jay-z.
Your crazy I dont care if Birdman has a suit on or some J’s and a hoodie with some diamonds on. Baby is just as rich if not richer then simmons and jayz so what you talking about. Baby is one of the richest in the game my man.
did this cat actually just say baby has more paper then russel and jay?? LMFAO… motherfucka aint even close… either one of those dudes have twice as much paper…. baby is the worst rapper of all time, not wayne… wayne is actually really good, nowhere near best though… funny fact- they the two most ugly motherfuckers in the game… the pair of them would make little kids cry…
If you Think Lil Wayne has a Ghost Writer, you either a Hater, or a Complete idiot! I have been listenin 2 Wayne since “The Block is Hot”, when he was like 15, and now he is like 28, and he has just gotten better with age,”Not Countin the Rock Album and the Autotune songs of course!” If you listened to his “Squad Up” Mixtapes, a little after 500 degrees Dropped, thats when Wayne started tryin to be the Best! He Had like 4 or 5 mixtapes that were Heat! Then he Dropped the Carter 1, and he went for the Crown. Wayne Has over like 25 mixtapes, and most of them have better verses then his album songs. Nobody Ghostwrites Mixtape Songs because you won’t get paid, and the Mixtapes are Waynes Best Work! What the F*ck Are you Hater thinkin! lol
FUCK WAT YALL TALKIN BOUT ARTISTS GET BETTER THEIR FLOW CHANGES A LIL BIT ANY TRUE WAYNE FAN CAN EXPLAIN HIS CHANGE IN STYLE FRM 500 DEGREES TO CARTER 1 VIA DA SQAD UP MIXTAPES THOSE TAPES SHOWED HOW HE PROGRESSED TO THE ARTIST U HEAR ON THE CARTER AND A LOT OF THAT SQAD UP SHIT HARDER THAN THE SHIT THATS OUT NOW AN HE BEEN HAD FLOW AND TALENT OTHERWISE THE BLOCK IS HOT WOULD NOT HAV WENT PLATINUM
fuckin Wayne stans need to get the fuck off his dick… he has ghost writers its a fuckin fact i wish i could post a picture on this bitch i got that proves it. LMAO wayne gotta borrow gillie’s chain in that old ass music video he made why wouldnt that corny faggot borrow some lyrics too? fuckin blinded ass jock riders need to get the fuck over it. calling people “haters” is your only fuckin crutch SHUT THE FUCK UP
You N*gga’s are Dumb A*ses, Lil Wayne aint even in my Top 3, Anymore, But i Still know that Aint no N*gga gettin Ready to Ghost Write over 300 Songs for an Artist! Lil Wayne has Way too much Free Music to have a Ghost Writer, and Ghost Writers Write to make Money. The Only Thing you Dummies can think of is that Wayne Got Better After Gillie was on Cash Money. Ok, Maybe Gillie help Wayne on his Delivery, or on how to set up Punchlines, when Wayne was only around like 18 or 19 at that time. But His Mixtapes was Hot Before Gillie, and Ridiculously Better Long After Gillie was Way out of the Picture, “The Dedication’s” “The Drought’s” the lists goes on and on! Explain How that Happened you F*ckin Retards!
Boo and Gotti co-wrote and so did Gillie….Drake has co-writers…..Consequence writes some of Kanye’s stuff……Baby needs to let somebody write for him…
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FUCK YOU ALL I AM THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE
fuck lil wayne fake ass nigga he aint no blood!!!! 40 glock made that nigga look like a bitch did even wanna come out his car…. so if u like him u a wanna be as nigga live the life before talking about it BG is a real nigga no wounder y he left cashmoney to many fake niggas like wayne and bitch ass baby!!!!!
lil wayne and drake are fags. what bullshit hiphop/
you need wutang in your life.
greatest?? he wont ever come close until his rhymes move past their simplicity. i have to say his deliver is good but the lyrics are child’s play. learn some new words beside martian and alien. drake is only following in his footsteps as well. i wouldnt ever admit to writing for him, that would be an insult.
hold up cuz dont cum on wayne like dat u actuakky hoen yoself wayne is near the best……..&n he say shit no other rapper say bbecuz he wanna b differ so childs play cut it out.man quit hatin
hold up cuz dont cum on wayne like dat u actually hoen yoself wayne is near the best……..&n he say shit no other rapper say bbecuz he wanna b differ so childs play cut it out.man quit hatin
Lil Wayne the greatest lol. Wayne is only an average lyricist @ best. He’s nothing special on the mic. His lyrics are so simplistic, until he can get past simplicity, he’ll never get close to being the best. And Birdman just sucks, he is one of the worst rappers ever.
simple lyrics, man stop playing. You need to do yo homework and listen to the real lil wayne not that shit u here on the radio pop in any dedication or drought mixtape. No ceilings was the best mixtape ever.
No Ceilings was average, I’ve heard better mixtapes. Lil Wayne is the most overrated rapper ever. He is not cold, he aint no lyrical genius like all these Wayne dick riders claim. Every once in forever he’ll say something nice, but majority of the time his lyrics are simplistic, elementary, whether it’s his radio music or his mixtape music. Maybe you should get out of denial and realize that Lil Wayne is an overrated, p.o.s. excuse for a rapper.
I hear what dude is saying but I have never heard any rapper with simplistic lyrics make it sound so good…
The truth is its not dickriders who make Lil Wayne’s career, dude can keep you interested for an entire song…. I still have No Celings in my playlist and there are dudes whose albums dont last that long in my playlist because you listen to it twice and you dont care for it anymore. Wayne has flow and interesting lyrics that your fav. rapper wouldnt say like: “Bars all day, no last call”, “TWO women praise me like MARY MARY” or “I exercise in my office, I guess I’m fit for business”
You can call it simple if you want but that shit is interesting and will have you listening to a mixtape for MONTHS… Other rappers mixtapes last weeks in terms of relevance.
I drive past people or go to people’s houses and ‘No Ceilings’ is PUMPING.. or somebody comes in to a flex like listen to this Lil Wayne mixtape and its No Ceilings and you just have to laugh… So in your eyes Wayne may be simplistic but people are listening and loving it..
lil wayne got a few jams but he’ll NEVER EVER be even top 50 2 roc a mic….dickriders gotta recognize
LIL WAYNE IS TRASH!!! HE A CUP CAKE RAPPER WHO MAKES BULLSHIT RECORDS, EVER TITLE OF LIL WAYNE’S SONG HE STEAL FROM OTHER RAPPERS AND RAP TO THEM.. HE’LL NEVER TOP 50 CENT, THE GAME, JAY-Z. I LOST RESPECT FOR LIL WAYNE WHEN HE DIS’D 2PAC MUSIC SAYING HE NEVER JAMMED PAC AND THAT PAC MUSIC WAS IN NO WAY MUSIC PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN TO… LIL WAYNE’S A FUCKING FAGGET… I JUST GOT MY RECORD DEAL AND IM COMIN TO SHUT THAT CORNY ASS NIGGA DOWN ALONG WITH CASH MONEY RECORDS FOR THE FUCKED UP DEAL I HAD WITH THEM…………… WEEZY F. BABY, THATS RIGHT CAUZ WEEZY GAY ASS IS FUCKING BABY………….
Brotha if you’re going to put 50 Cent and Game in the same category as Jay Z you’ve discredited anything esle you might have to say. Jay-Z has added more historical significance to Hip Hop than 50 and Game combined. Furthermore, Lil Wayne has the career you want so find a part of you that can show respect to his artistry and aspire to be half the performer he is.
BTW those are some serious camps you’re calling out at the start of your career. Not everyone is as lucky as Gucci, do your homework.
Lil Wayne isn’t the best but hes no where near the bottom & i can’t image someone writing lyrics for him because some stuff he comes up with is straight up stupid.
Also people on here are calling him trash while listen to their Blueprint 3 CD?
Hey Blueprint 3 was an amazing piece of work…. Do you know how many singles are on that album?? Jay has at least two more singles on the album if he wanted to put them out…. Thats a GREAT body of work….
I loved American Gangster for its grittiness, so that was a good album but BP3 is commercially one of the best albums Jay has put out in a long time.
lil waynes the worst rapper i ever heard in my life and there are ALOT of bad ones out there
I am sick of niggas saying stupid shit like this… How could Wayne be the worst rapper you have ever heard in your life when you have rappers like: Gucci Mane, SouljaBoy, Shawty Lo, Lil Webbie, PLIES and other stupid fucking idiots out there… PLZ…. Everybody know when somebody says some dumb shit like that they are just hating… thats not even a valid opinion because of how much hate its filled with.
DJ Lex
His lyrical content is average but production as always is Very Good, I’m not Jay Z fan but Forever Young and New York is genuis because it has a wider audience then any other rapper could dream of…
Back to the point lil wayne is one better rappers in last 5-6 years
J Cole’s “The Warm-Up” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lil Wayne’s “No Ceilings”
Despite what Birdman says to hide the truth,Wayne has had SOME help as far as writing goes.4rm what I noticed with Wayne in the studio,if he isnt weed’ed up,he aint gon come out the booth with no verse,and it takes him a long long time sometimes just to pump out a verse,so I believe he may have had a lil help 4rm Drizzy for some songs way before Drake even signed with anybody.Plus,The V.M.A’s of 2008 is an example of how Wayne spits verses 4rm other rappers.Now back in the The Carter 1&2 days I think Currency and Gillie helped out with those great albums.I bet when Wayne get out of Jail in 7-8 months,he’ll be back to the old,lyrical Wayne that everybody loved.
There’s some amount of true behind any rumor. I dont think wayne freestyle all his songs coz av been in the booth, made some songs nd i kno wat its like nd since birdman did not admit to that sumthing must be wrong sum where. nd am so hood remix where birdman was like martin luther king that was the wackest verse i eva heard.
WHO CARES IF WAYNE WRITE HIS OWN RAPS JAY-Z DIDNT WRITE NEW YORK OFF OF HIS BP3 ALBUM I DONT C ANY OF U LAMES COMMENTING ON DAT!!!! LONG LIVE CASH MONEY YUNG MONEY…………..BTW STOP HATING YOUR OWN!!!!!!!!
Jay-z is garbage fuck BP 1,2&3… Wayne is legend already and he’s still breathing… Hip hop ain’t been the same since tupac move to cuba on us!
“Wayne is legend already and he’s still breathing… Hip hop ain’t been the same since tupac move to cuba on us! ”
XD XD XD YOU SERIOUS???