Joell Ortiz Responds To Kendrick Lamar, Says He "Ain't The King Of New York"

Joell Ortiz becomes the first rapper to respond lyrically to Kendrick Lamar's verse on "Control."

With this afternoon’s release of Joell Ortiz’ “Outta Control,” Hip Hop fans now have their first official, lyrical response to Kendrick Lamar’s highly-praised verse on Big Sean’s “Control.”

On “Outta Control,” Joell Ortiz boasts, “Ya’ll knew I wasn’t gonna stay quiet” at the start of the song before directly addressing the TDE emcee’s claims to the title of King Of New York and his desire to set the bar in Hip Hop.

“Lil homie you ain’t the King Of New York/You the next thing on my fork…Maybe that’s why you left me out of that shit/Maybe that’s why the Slaughterhouse ain’t get dissed or maybe I’m not on your radar,” Ortiz raps.

Although Ortiz is not mentioned by name on “Control,” Kendrick does go on to call out J. Cole, Big K.R.I.T., Wale, Mac Miller, and a handful of other rappers.

Ortiz also makes brief mention to his time spent at Aftermath Entertainment, a label Kendrick’s currently signed to as he raps, “I’ll leave the King of L.A. to Dre, I was this close to staying Aftermath but lamped out like a genie/Dre you a fuckin gangsta and [Kerniss] you such a sweetie and guess what I’m a free agent again if y’all ever need me.”

Kendrick’s guest verse on “Control” even sparked a minor feud between Joe Budden and Styles P on Twitter as the two emcees exchanged words over the lack of response from New York rappers following the release of “Control.” Budden has since deleted his response to Styles P.


Released on August 12, “Control” features guest verses from both Kendrick Lamar and Jay Electronica, and according to Big Sean, the record will not be featured on Hall Of Fame due to sample issues.

RELATED: Kendrick Lamar Says He's "Trying To Murder" Drake, J. Cole, Wale On Big Sean's "Control"

84 Comments

  • lmao

    its funny to hear new York niggas talk shit about the south when south music its whats played mostly on their radio stations and south niggas be all up in new York performing lmao not to mention even wack south niggas can get a show up north but only top tier up north can get shows in the south and look how many of yall niggas come down south to work with south niggas

  • Anonymous

    GIVE ME A CHANCE Youtube is all about finding new artist, & though I been rapping for a while im still consider a new artist. I just want my music heard thats all, im not looking for no record deal, getting famous 'r anything like that.! so please just spare a few sec. to check me out, & if you like what you heard please SUBSCRIBE so ill know you actually listen & support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzBh55tD_eg

  • Anonymous

    fat fuck flop Ortiz go LAUGHTERHOUSE go LAUGHTERHOUSE

  • Anonymous

    I was expecting old new york rappers to get offended,sensitive bitches. joe and joell....shut up! no one is listening to that weak slaughterhouse album. I am still listening to section 80. No longevity in your music. Its just a witty lyric,get over it. I'm waiting for bussa buss to come out and say something! or has busta rhymes said something already? i don't have twitter.

  • Anonymous

    joell WHO???? Kendrick is a much better artist lyrically so pipe down and shut the fuck up looking for attention bitch

  • Mr. Haan

    MY NIGGA FRENCHIE IS THE KING OF NEW YORK

  • Official Kendrick Troll

    I'm not playing any rapper song for a week only kendrick on my playlist i just might do that for a whole year and fuck any response to that verse it's untouchable, fuck niggas have been doing we are the world collabos and sucking up to each other and dropping mediocre shit and being less competitive with each release, even fucking techno that has the same beats with different vocals have even been out selling hiphop cos all of the mediocre bullshit. Kdot is King and all worthy subjects (The emcees he called out)should wake up, the rest of the murder fuckers should give up or get better.

  • Gucci The Realest

    Gucci Mane is the realest rapper and heres why. - all other rappers rap about being gangster shooting and killing but they havent done it. - Eminem raps about killing he hasnt. - Jay z raps in open letter about sending shots he hasnt. - T.I. snitch to the feds - Young Jeezy was never bmf - 50 Cent snitch and was never in jail but a youthcamp - Game was never a banger but lived the life of his brother in his lyrics - Nas Escobar never sold drugs - Ice Cube never was a gangbanger - Dr Dre never was a gangbanger - Snoop was never a crip - 2pac was a ballerina and never sold drugs after he become famous he was doing some stupid stuff like beating and shooting at people because he though he could get away with it. Without Suge Knight 2pac was just a skinny motherf*cker. - Mobb deep are the biggiest cowards in rap they are short as midgets and keep talking this g sh*t but never did g sh*t. - Most of the rappers rap about stuff they havent done yet you all support them and say its real rap. - When rick ross does it you all claim he is fake and say its fake rap. This shows that hiphop fans are hypocritical and all these real hiphop fan wanna be's are just some unjustified haters whose opinions are just as irrelevent as the swag fag rapper fans. BIG GUWOP KILLED A MAN HE WAS A DRUG DEALER BEFORE RAPPER HE HAS STREET CREDENTIALS HE IS THE ONLY RAPPER THAT RAPS ABOUT FACTS THERE FORE BIG GUWOP IS THE REALEST RAPPER IN THE RAP GAME AND THATS A FACT!

  • Anonymous

    JOELL IS NO WHERE NEAR TOP 10 BEST NEW YORK RAPPERS OF TODAY. HES GOOD BUT BORING. HE HAS NO ROOM TO SAY KENDRICK AINT TAKING OVER.

    • Anonymous

      anonymous stfu fag

    • anonymus

      WTF!!! Joel aint got bars, and he never will. he's not even half of what kendrik is. I'll shove his head in your ass next time you post crap like this

    • ysleiro

      This aint about popularity. This is about lyrics and you my friend you just exposed yourself as a mental midget. Joell Ortiz is a gifted dude with the words. Words that carry meaning and are relatable .

  • TDE

    battle rappers never make it far flopper house will never be great because they are all battle rappers. Get back at me when any of these guys produce a quality album with great story telling and depth that i can go back and listen too. Probably never going to happen

  • Anonymous

    everybody he didn't really target responds first.

  • Anonymous

    NY is bigger than ever now. NY runs rap!

  • Anonymous

    he is telling new york to wake the fuck up

  • Anonymous

    ortiz voice is shit nowwwwwww

  • braddd

    going for a walk to um do somethings.

  • hey

    also check out micheal myers camp grounds.se ya.

  • hey

    hey. check out jasons camp where we teach you how to get those type of ppl that are watching you and writeing about you.

  • C-will

    Joell Ortiz murdered K.Dot. First go here and read Kendricks verse and the annotated lines so I know ya'll get what he said http://rapgenius.com/Big-sean-control-lyrics Then go HERE and read Joells verse and annotated lines so I know ya'll understand how he destroyed him. http://rapgenius.com/Joell-ortiz-control-remix-lyrics Your welcome.

  • Anonymous

    GIVE ME A CHANCE Youtube is all about finding new artist, & though I been rapping for a while im still consider a new artist. I just want my music heard thats all, im not looking for no record deal, getting famous 'r anything like that.! so please just spare a few sec. to check me out, & if you like what you heard please SUBSCRIBE so ill know you actually listen & support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzBh55tD_eg

  • jayson

    Ortiz KILLED Kendrick. Point Blank. Period. End of story.

    • Anonymous

      Joell did not speak up because Kdot called him out, it was because he claimed himself "King of New York". And yeah, Joell is better than Lamar, I didn't think that was even a topic for discussion.

    • 3 headedmonstah

      but it wasnt for him to kill kdot.. it was for them new dudes.. kdot is the best lyrikal young rapper out besides, joey b.ass and probably cole. but ortiz og.. kdot not in his leauge.. twali tweet it the best.. these new new york rapper need to stop rappin like the south.. he know kdot didnt mention him.. its like throwing a rock in a pack of wolves.. only the bitch will make noise..

  • 4life

    New York fell off.. Ortiz is a "lyrical miracle" battle rapper that can spit 300 bars with dope punchlines, but can't make ONE classic song to save his life. Slaughterhouse good rappers, but poor artists that don't make memorable songs or albums.

    • Anonymous

      then go listen to "hood hop" by royce. another classic album with classic tracks. you stupid 4life hipster dooshbag butt plug

    • Anonymous

      you need to go liten to Joel Ortiz 1st album "the Brick" theres madd classic songs on there. before u say some dumbshit like that. fuckin hipster dooshbag

    • Anonymous

      ASAP Rocky can make hit records and he is from NY.

    • Anonymous

      Very true. These artist have to realize you cant just be a good spitter and thats it. You ave to be able to be a good spitter and make a good track. Learn the difference MCs. Nas could do it, Jay could do it, 50 could do it, Em could do it and many others.

  • Anonymous

    FUCK HASHTAGS AND RETWEETS NIGGA!

  • Detroit niggroe

    Kendrick shit is boring as fuck. I swear cats dickride him just to stay hip or sumthin

  • Anonymous

    fat fuck flop Ortiz

  • Anonymous

    Damn, Kdot got these NYC dudes clashing lol. Checkout thegrandreport, they have some good videos on there

  • hmmm

    "according to Big Sean, the record will not be featured on Hall Of Fame due to sample issues."

  • dentaldamboy

    You know K Dot is wack when even a wack rapper recognizes he's wack.

    • J.Kill

      huh??? so if Birdman said JayZ was wack, that would make Jay Z wack? nigga shut your mouth and never open it again lest I stuff it full of your own bullshit.

  • jus10

    Now both of these dudes are Shady Aftermath affiliates. So they should see eachother sooner or later if they really about it.

    • Pharaoh

      it's not about that, it's about who is the better lyricist and if you was Hip Hop you'd know that automatically cornball...

  • Jay

    I love it...stop the WE ARE THE WORLD HIP HOP ISH. Let get back to some Ether and Takeover. Take it back to the park and your lyrics was the CHOPPA. Stop all these get money rap and see if you can test your lyrical stamina against each other. All the dudes that pop bottle in the club time to leave the game. Lupe shouldn't have an excuse now to STEP UP, JOE BUDDEN, any of those who says they do this battle rap. He knocked the wood ( pause ) off the shoulder now what....... HIPHOP REALLY NEED THIS> With Songs like APRIL FOOL FROM ChIef Keef this is a turning point. I hope.

  • sly

    EXACTLY!! OLD HIP HOP WOULD RESPOND LIKE THIS....NEW HIP HOP WILL TWEET THEIR RESPONSE SMH ...FAIRIES

  • BeatzGrymm

    That's why I like this dude because he was the only dude to step up! But this is Hip Hop y'all... don't make it anything else. I know Kendrick has nothin but love for New York!!

    • Anonymous

      This is good for Hip Hop maybe we will get some golden years back, when it was about creativity and not just money.

  • gb2968

    Ortiz is right! Kendrick Lamar is for little kids who just started listening to his garbage.

  • TiM Dog

    N.Y Hip Hop has been dead for a long time. Fuck the east coast.

  • ETK

    wow. Kendrick got the whole rap game shook! not saying it was the best verse of all-time but for one man to elicit a response like that is somethin crazy. niggas from all corners tellin him what's up, good or bad. like him or not, this is the kind of shit that people gonn remember down the line he even sparked a beef outta that shit! Joe vs Styles P, eat your hearts out y'all

  • Pharaoh

    HEAT...GOOD WORK ORTIZ, THIS IS HOW YOU ADDRESS SHIT IF YOU'RE HIP HOP!!! cuzzo blacked out a few times here... @beezleebud

  • Damn

    There is an error he said Curtis you such a Sweetie

  • Chris

    It's Kirdis, not Kerniss. Kirdis is the former GM of Aftermath

  • Anonymous

    just rappers acting like kids... BORING

  • 3 HEADED MONSTAH

    FIRST OF ALL, ORTIZ U TRIPPIN.. HE CALLIN OUT ALL THE NEW RAPPERS OUT NOW.. U OLD SCHOOL.. AND NO ONE STILL AINT FUKIN WITH SLAUGHTER HOUSE AS A GROUP.. SO I DONT KNOW WHY U EVEN CAME BACK TO COMMENT.. LET THE DUDES HE CALLED OUT DO THAT.. IF THAT WAS THE CASE THE LIST WOULD OF BEEN AN OPEN SUBJECT.. CHILL OUT.. DIFFERENT LEVELS MAN.. YOUNG RAPPERS.. HE NOT EVEN AIMIN AT THE OLD HEADS... LET JOEY BAD ASS GET EM FOR NEW YORK.. SIT UR OLD ASS DOWN SOMEWHERE.. U A BEAST . BUT KDOT NOT IN YALL LANE YET.. HE HAS ALOT OF WORK TO DO .. BUT WITH THAT VERSE HE IS NOT FAR BEHIND.. BUT DIFF GENERATION SO BREATHE EASY

    • Qiana

      He was just letting this new skool kat know what's up if you gonna call someone out this is how it's done, Y'all know none of this bottle poppin fashion rockin wanna be rappers don't know anything about battle rapping....But I do give it to Kendrick from sparking this... Maybe East Coast will show up and Show out....

    • Anonymous

      Saying you're the king of new york makes it open. You cant get away with saying that shit by saying you only meant it for the new cats. That dont fly.

  • Requiescat

    YOU FAILED, listen to the track here folks requiescatmusic.com/2013/08/new-music-joel-ortiz-responds-to.html

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