Jay-Z Says Kanye West Wanted "Holy Grail" & "Oceans" On "Watch The Throne"

Jay-Z shares the details of the four-day long argument he had with Kanye West over the placement of "Oceans" and "Holy Grail."

Rappers Kanye West and Jay-Z boast what appears to be a cordial friendship, but according to Jay-Z, there were two records that sparked a four-day long argument between the two emcees.

While speaking with BBC Radio 1 personality Zane Lowe, Jay-Z revealed that the Magna Carta Holy Grail records “Oceans” and “Holy Grail” were recorded around the same time he was working on Watch The Throne with Kanye.

Consequently, the Yeezus rapper petitioned for the placement of “Oceans” and “Holy Grail” on Watch The Throne instead of Jay-Z’s solo album.

"[There were] no lyrics on 'Holy Grail' and I recorded 'Oceans' and I played those records for Kanye,” Jay explained. “And he was like, 'No those have to go on Watch the Throne,' so we spent four days arguing about those records and I was explaining to him why it wasn't right for this project and I had a whole idea for making this album called Magna Carta... Holy Grail [part of] the name came after."

Jay-Z later clarified the nature of the argument, explaining that minus the occasional, excitement-fueled shove, it wasn’t physical.

"Four days literally arguing... not like fighting. Well, there was some pushing at one point but not between us, just everyone else got a little excited," said Jay-Z, according to Pitchfork.

Released on July 4, Magna Carta Holy Grail serves as Jay-Z's twelfth studio album.

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  • Anonymous

    Thank god they didnt put that "Holy Grail" shit on Watch The Thone. Would of ruined a good album.

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  • dentaldamboy

    as an accountant for YMCMB i can confirm that JAY Z and kayne west have a sexual relationship towards each other. in this pic above you can see Kanye dressing like Frank ocean because they are both gay. they are not like Birdman and Wayne who have a father son relationship.

    • Anonymous

      I'm not gonna lie, but that comment had me on the floor. LMAO

    • Anonymous

      Birdman and Wayne have a father son relationship the same way that Michael Jackson had a father son relationship with his neverland ranch boys

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  • Anony

    Look at Yeezy and Jay in that pic, tryin look all hard. They ain't hard. They never slang any dope when they was young, they lived in white neighborhoods and were members of the chess team. they ain't real gangstas. Ja Rule could teach them a thing or two about being a real self made hood mafiaoso nigga.

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    Ja Rule poops on these niggas.

  • Anony

    Ja Rule is worth more than Gay Z and Cheesy Yeezy.

  • dentaldamboy

    Aye, when YMCMB goes bankrupt, and I get laid off, Instead of heading to the welfare line, I'm starting a new family theme park called FAGLAND. Yes, bring all your underage boys and girls so I can rub my cock around their ears. And any twelve year old named stephanie will walk funny after I give her a good rail in the tail. I will let the little boys shove a toaster up my dickhole, but hopefully my pubes dont catch on fire, otherwise I will piss all over my dick to put it out. When I go to FAGLAND, I will fuck the rhinos and shove my cock through the gopher holes. If a cat walks by, I will kill it then fuck it in the butthole, I will also eat its shit if it looks like chocolate mousse. I will bring birdman and lil wayne to FAGLAND, and will gently suck their cockheads until they explode all over my fade. I will do this in repetition while fingering their sweet, moist anus holes. Then I will use their ass hairs to floss the jizz from between my teeth. Yes Birdman, my lord, that is how I wish to service you. And lil wayne, i just want to stick my hand up your ass so I can jerk off your shit, then squeeze it between my fingers, then mix it with my ass butter and serve it to nicki minaj with a fucking souffle. YMCMB 4 Life!!!


    Watch the throne was a great album I'm glad oceans & holy grail stayed on MCHG cuz those were the best songs on the whole album, other than that bloggers can you stop being trolls and speak on the subject matter at hand READ THE HEADLINE and state your opinion we really aren't concerned with how you're a broke bitch stealing wi fi from your neighbors and ur upset Jay-Z has done all the right things as a business man & is wealthy.... SAVE IT YA BISH

  • R.I.P. Jay-Z 1996-2003

    Jay is a real attention whore he cant stay away from the media. Go home you old poprapper! You rhymes suck about your picasso paintings and maybachs. We know that you are rich, maybe this is the problem you aint trying hard enough to make dope hiphopmusic. You sound lazy nowadays go to your rich white friends who laugh behind your back when you are trying to be as them but you still a nigga.

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      ^ Someone's filled with hate.

    • Big Dan

      While this may have some element of hate, there is a lot of truth to it. I heard Holy Grail and WT hell? The song sucks. First of it sounds like it is a JT featuring Jy-Z song and the singing goes on too long, which ruins the entire thing. As far as the album, most of the beats are just disappointing. "Oceans" and especially "FUTW" are nice hip hop beats, but you need a new hungry rapper on his first album for those tracks. Jigga didn't do them right. "Heaven" almost went there, but the sample was overbearing. "Jay-Z Blue" gets a 9. Its a beat that could have you thinking. Jigga should have stepped up with the lyrics and keep the stupid vocal samples from mommy dearest out of it. I understand they want to capitalize of JT and its the title song, but "BBC" and "Part II" are the singles not "Holy Grail". It shows they effed up. Part II does it for me and BBC can just light things up when you're having a party or hanging out or cruising in the ride. These two songs get a 10 out of 10 but the album as a whole gets a 6. ..and yes, Jay-Z is now a media whore. Most of what we see him doing he does for the write ups. I hope the Christopher Wallace is getting some checks for all the lyrics Jay-Z bit. And for those posting that these are great concepts, its you fools jigga was talking about when he hit Nas with the line "just because he wear a kufi don't mean he right, just because you don't understand it (talking about Nas' lyrics)..." I don't even the rest of the line. Someone else can post it.

    • crom777

      You gotta lot of self hate. With that ignorant ass comment you might be the definition of a nigg## SMH. This is coming from a black man. It s ok not to like his new shit i hate this album but all that extra is self hate kid.

    • BDUBB

      no, the media cant stay away from him

    • imho

      hes evolved from simple regular raps to great concepts with AG and now MCHG-- whats so revolutionary about big pimpin or H to the izzo? oh yeah there easy to understand for simple simons

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  • Anoy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKOuOwQQQeU Magna Carta Holy Grail Full Album

  • gay fish

    kanyes a fag WTT wsa kinda hot- yeezus sucked- MCHG was a monster can kanye and his smut girlfriend just fly themselves to mars and stay their until theyre old?



  • Anonymous

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKOuOwQQQeU MAGNA CARTA HOLY TRAIL full album!!!!!



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