@ alijah…just curious…what are you doing to get the homeless off the street and educate the youth? Jigga’s actually been running youth programs since at least ’97…check the liner notes…not to mention the initiatives he spearheaded in Africa for getting clean water to the poorest of the poor…and that’s just the shit that we know about…which, by the way, we don’t hear him rapping about those things because rapping about them would make them seem less important–a classy move on his part.
So anyway, back to my point. Post here, specifically, any and all of the initiatives you are a part of that involve getting the homeless off the street and protecting at-risk youth, and I’ll believe every word you say.
Yeah but you believe every word the media says and that is your problem.
Great we know jigga did his thing there in Africa because we saw it on TV.
How about the negative image he portryas to a large portion of american youth.
How about all the negative stuff he has created in the culture of music, do you count that too? Or pretend that everybody in the media is only positive?
i swear i pulled this vid up cuz i was waitin for gundam vid to load up. that’s a 20 min vid this is a two min vid and i know the reason too. so dx, i see you. yall can suck my dick.
Real Talk. Do you Hov. These dudes in the street want handouts. They dont have no idea how much of your money has gone to the underprivliged. You cant save everybody.
jay you my man (no homo), but could you get that coke out ya nose you talking funny son. Fuck you talking about kings get they head cut off, naw son kings wear crowns and defend they thrown, meaning get back to the lab and get back on that shit.
This is legit….Jay really has a problem with how folks attack him for being successful. I hear him mention this same topic alot and makes you wonder if that shit trully bothers him. Its intriguing cuz in the end this a nigga who came from the hood and now is filthy rich. Niggas can hate, but obiviously he had some sort of luck and plan we dont have. I do envy that, not hate.
If this dude has a problem with how folks “attack” him or whatever that word is supposed to mean that was his choice because he put himself in the public eye. Nobody asked him to go on TV, or radio. It was his own personal choice, and that is what goes along with that decision, a possible backlash because you are using media to influence people you don’t personally know and you’re not personally responding to them.
Obviously coming from the hood to being rich is a great success story, but you have to dig deeper and find out how they exactly got there.
Did they get there by helping people?
Or by taking advantage of people?
The rags to riches story has happened before and plenty of people have come from the “hood” to be “rich” through economics and through business and NOT necessarily through the media.
When you wrote “niggas can hate” it doesn’t really say anything because you don’t know what “hate” really means.
If I call this dude an asshole on a computer that he does not respond to am I “hating” on this dude or producing a positive experience for the kind of people that this guy took advantage of?
You can’t tell me either way because this is the internet era.
So you may call a person “hating” when what they are doing is showing support for the type of people that this dude “hated” on to get where they are at.
The word hate is such an overused and mass produced word that it really doesn’t have any meaning anymore. Because when the normal average person explains this stuff to people, the media and these brainwashers say only one thing and they say you “hatin”
The word hate is now an excuse word and means close to nothing.
And I envy no person because there is no way I’m going to be this dude anyway. So why would I waste time denegrating myself?
So the jealousy thing is fake also. If you jealous of someone you just wasting your time and being self destructive to yourself and the people around you.
This dude has no luck or a plan than anybody else has.
People are equal.
This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and almost everything he has ever written or said is pure bullshit.
For example in this interview dude is talkin about success. Whether you are successful or not depends on how you impact people overall.
You can have a normal job raise a few kids and have a happy wife or husband and be successful yet an idiot like this wouldn’t consider you successful because you’re not on TV or making millions or whatever dollars.
On the other hand you can do what this jerk did get involved with media and make albums and because you sold x amount of copies and won x amount of media awards and was on TV x amount of times you are automatically supposed to be considered successful.
This dude is a total hypocrite.
there are all these videos out there talkin how he devil worshipin throwin up hand signs and all that pyramid bullshit yet he don’t address any of it. he never says what his intentions are for other people he only talks about himself and tells stories.
OK so you made it out of marcy projects and onto forbes list. However what you did to get to that point defines your success. If you stepped over a bunch of people to get there, got selfish to the degree that you were only caring about yourself, you are causing a negative affect on other people and when you put yourself out there in media that is what you do. THAT is how most of these people got there. They didn’t get there by helping people, they got their by manipulating media. That is when you start affecting people you don’t know personally. If you live a normal job and take care of your family that is what success is about because the only people who are truly impacted by you are the people you personally live your life with.
Does this dude have a positive or negative affect on people overall?
Nobody can really tell because nobody knows what the future holds.
What we do know is that corporations, media, TV, etc. has a NEGATIVE affect on people because the public as a whole and as a group is not doing well.
Unemployment is up, economy is shaky, morale is low, and support and opinion about the american public from overseas is dwindiling. And what is the major issue in all of this?
Corporations, TV & media taking advantage of the average person.
That is what this dude is DOING!!
He is CONTRIBUTING to that!!
He is using media to gain advantages for himself and he’s not giving a fuck on how its impacting other people.
He’s doing the same thing all these greedy ceo’s, wall street, bankers etc. are doing. Defining their success by how much money they make. He’s not going against the media, journalists and the supposed big names who call the shots, he’s going with them so how the fuck is he helping people?
When you bought this dude’s CD, you paid $10. That is $10 taken from an average family and given to a millionaire. THE MONEY AIN’T COMING BACK!! The person who paid $10 didn’t resell it for $20, they didn’t use it for food, clothes, shelter or anything important. They simply threw $10 away on media brainwashing. And a large portion of those people were teenagers who weren’t in a a position to know exactly what was best for them and what their purchase was about. This dude is a horrible role model with the bullshit he talks about.
Were the CEO’s of Tyco, Enron etc successful? Individually they pulled in millions to billions so if only money defines success yes they were successful. BUT THEY WERE CORRUPT AND FUCKED OVER MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!! They got the money from other people’s pockets. That’s how they got rich, by taking from others. That is what this dude does. He got rich by taking other people’s income, and a good portion of it came from average teenagers.
Yo, this dude is a fraud.
Kick the satan bullshit to the curb and next time you want to sell something to arrive at a profit, sell something legit that people need and make it cheaper and more available to them if you’re such a hero.
This dude is not going against media and for the people, he is going for media and against the people.
Because the message in this dude’s music is fuckin garbage.
I agree success is how you see it through your own eyes. And to some people Jayz is successful in their eyes. Everyone views the world differently and have different perspective. Many people waste money on silly stuff like drugs and unhealthy foods. This world is not perfect and nobody is perfect. Jay-z is a man who struggles like any other man in the world. So what can you do to help jay-z become better in life? The answer is “Nothing” just live your life and do what you do. To me its like you want someone to stay at the bottom. Do you sale and make money or do you stay broke? The whole devil worship is straight BS. Unless you see Jay-z worshipping the devil with your own eyes don’t speak what you don’t know. If you don’t like what Jay is doing and know you can do better please do so and put your plan into action. Put some actions in your words and show everyone what you mean. Cause we can seat and talk all day but nothing matter unless you do something. Make music that isn’t trash. Do something make music for the people if you know what they want. People listen to someone who is doing something not someone who does nothing.
Why would I want to spend my time helping out this dude jigga? or is it even possible to do so?
Shouldn’t I be more concerned with those who haven’t reached economic success?
I personally don’t want anyone to stay at the bottom who is a normal person so I don’t know who that line applies to.
@mike B
You’re devil worship line is straight BS. not this dudes. because there is enough of it out there that if jigga doesn’t personally address the issue and flat out deny it then how can they be trusted?
You wrote unless you see jigga worshipin the devil, well how would I, or would anyone else see that? That is something that supposedly happens behind closed doors. If we don’t see the dude flat out deny it and show in their actions and words that they are not worshipin the devil, we won’t know either way if it is BS or not BS.
And music is not the only way to do something. Anybody can make music, it is the venue of whether or not it will be able to be heard that is the issue.
You can facebook it, myspace it, use your home audio equipment or whatever you want, but if the venue isn’t proper and you don’t have mass media on your side, you may be the one that gets “attacked” and “hated” on by those who have infiltrated mass media because it isn’t the image that they may want to promote.
And what is the image that mass media in the music industry wants to promote?
Just look at the names selling the most and the image they represent and tell me what exactly that image is.
Music is not an equal or fair venue because it involves media, so until that happens it will not be the deciding factor.
And Yes I don’t like what jigga is doing.
and I know I can do better.
and I have already done so and put my plan into action.
And I don’t have mass media or corporate backing so how will I know if my image is going to be distorted or not?
How do I know that mass media or corporate backing will not try and change or distort my plan because as of now I don’t have any contact with them.
I couldn’t read your whole statement, because it was fuming with jealously and hatred.
If the saying, “success breads envy” is true. Your post validates its truth.
Also, think about this. You’re wasting your time speaking about the negative impact of someone else and his actions, while giving me very little reason to think you contribute anything to this world yourself.
Jay-Z > You.
Because he would never waste his time speaking about your life.
You’re post is so fucking stupid.
Its not filled with jealousy or hatred at all I am STICKING UP FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THIS WORLD!!!
How many fucking times do I have to post that?
Me>Jayz
I dont’ give a fuck about this dude, but I DONT’ MANIPULATE TEENAGERS AND WASTE THIER TIME LIKE THIS DUDE DOES!!
This dude is wasting his time trying to influence other people’s lives who are YOUNGER THAN HIM!!!
@wolfman you made the stupidest and most unintelligent post of all-time.
Holy shit that was some dumb stuff I just read from you.
If you got 150 mil in the bank or whatever number they say you got, that money came out of other people’s pockets. It didn’t grow on a tree and it wasn’t taken from other greedy ceo’s, bankers etc. It came almost entirely FROM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!
And if the dude isn’t giving it back, he’s not successful because he’s negatively impacted people overall. If he takes that 150 mil and just uses it to further advance his own career and agenda he’s an asshole. Because its not a normal salary. 150 mil is the salary of 200-500 people and that could mean 200-500 famalies. People are equal. Nobody is 200-500 times better than anybody. This dude aquired his wealth by taking in income from average people at a much higher rate than what the normal person does.
That is what concert tickets, cd’s, music merchandise is, it comes from normal people who make average salaries and are not famous or in the media spotlight. What can they do with a ticket or cd? NOTHING!!! Its a waste of money, some people may not consider it a waste and call it entertainment. Now tell me WHAT IS SO ENTERTAINING ABOUT 9.6% UNEMPLOYMENT, LOW PUBLIC MORALE, KIDS DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL, FEW JOBS, NO MEDIA OUTLET TO VOICE THEIR OPINOIN, AND LOW OPINION ABOUT THE GOVERNMENTS AND POWERS IN CHARGE? Is entertainment more important than that? No it is not.
If this dude never existed does that 150 mil go back to the american public?
How do we know it doesn’t?
And why do you think the public is not doing well and in the position they are in in the first place?
Because of dudes like this, who target people mostly under 21 years old that do not yet have the wisdom to understand exactly what is in their best interests because they aren’t old enough to have figured it out yet. And they have been influenced more by media, than the teachers, parents and mentors around them.
They don’t want to be their teacher, parent, mentor etc, because they don’t see those people on TV. They want to be this dude, because he’s on TV, but they aren’t old enough to truly understand what goes along with all of that, and how complex the bigger picture really is.
So here comes this dude tellin phony stories with a fake message. This dude be comin with your words and shit, here you ain’t said one word, and here they come with the word tryin to flip it and bounce it on some bullshit, not sounding right first of all……You wanna play that role son play it.
This nigga ain’t gonna sound like me, on no album.
I’m sorry dude but everything you just typed is total BS. Jay-Z has nothing to do with the economy. People spend their money where they please. And that’s proof with people buying homes they could not afford. Major corporations sending countless manufacturing jobs over seas to pay lower wages and not have to deal with unions. Jay-Z provides a service, it’s up to the individual to make the decision as to whether or not to purchase those services. If kids want to be like him, why not? He has a great work ethic, smart, and he’s successful. They don’t have to be rappers to utilize those characteristics. And do your research, he does give back on a regular bases. He has charity organizations, scholarship programs and he’s donated millions. My only suggestion is this, do the research before you start throwing out rhetoric that is not substantiated. Later.
You are 100% incorrect.
Of course jigga has something to do with the economy.
He influences the lives of many teenagers on a daily basis.
He influences how they act and what they do.
Because that is what teenagers do. They look up to the people on TV and do not have the same respect for their teachers, parents or mentors.
jigga does not provide a service. Music is a trick and it is brainwashing only. No teenager should be paying for music.
It is up to the individual to make the purchase, but most young people don’t know what they are doing and many later regret what they did as teenagers.
Nobody knows what he gives back on a regular basis. It is just more lies and propaganda sent out by the media. They manipulate what is actually being done.
I did the research, and you completely changed the subject and talked about all people like they are adults, and all people in this economy are NOT adults, so your entire post is BS.
“if kids want to be like him, why not”
That is what you wrote and it is pure garbage.
I’ll tell you why kids wouldn’t want to be like him.
Because he doesn’t address any of the videos and stuff in his lyrics that makes him appear to be worshipin the devil and evil. He never flat out denies it.
He continues to want to trick people into “purchasing” his music, so nobody knows the real story.
He is a terrible role model for young people and the information and image he is portraying to them is not helping them out. It is only making things more complicated for them.
Through your words, you’ve managed to turn Jay-Z into some kind of money hungry thief; who is out to steal the public’s money and turn people against themselves.
It is each and every person’s own responsibility to spend their wealth how they choose. If someone was influenced by Jay-Z and his music to purchase a concert ticket or his CD, it was their decision to do so.
You make it sound like if this $150 million were in the public hands, these kids would spending it on colored pencils and books for school. You’re neglecting the nature behind addictive impulses and gambling that comes natural to people.
If Jay-Z wasn’t here, the probability that this money would be spent in the same genre of entertainment is greater than 50%.
Please, use responsibility when making such blanket statements about a person who decided to use his intellect to create a life and stories for entertainment.
I can tell you I’ll always admire Jay-Z more than anyone who lashes against him. Because the man put fear of what people think of him aside and chose to be a real person. He doesn’t let petty thoughts derail his goals.
No. you are incorrect and again changed the subject.
that “probability that this money would be spent in the same genre of entertainment is greater than 50%” is THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT LINE I’VE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!!!
OMG WHAT A MEDIA COPOUT!!
I haven’t turned this dude into anything I’m just typing on a blog. wtf is wrong with some of you dudes.
Kids are influenced by this dude
Kids who don’t know what they are doing because they are too young to figure out media’s corrupt ways!!
Don’t you understand that?
How many fuckin times do I have to post that.
He chose to be a real person?????
He chose to be a FAKE person by talking about bullshit in his rhymes, with the bullshit satanic vidoes and he’s just WASTING TEENAGERS TIME.
Yo you people are either mad stupid, or part of this dude’s marketing team.
That was your response? If you plan to take this “blogging” thing seriously, you should consider waiting until your emotions have simmered down before typing a reply.
Telling others they’re “incorrect” or the “biggest bullshit line” or “stupid” doesn’t make your argument stronger. It’s the complete opposite. You look weaker, because you’re not stating any facts.
Second, no one appointed you king of the children in this world. Respectfully, you know no more about what’s better for the next man than you do for yourself.
It’s irritating to see how much effort some people put into trying to drag down someone’s reputation. Jay-Z never came out into the public and appointed himself the role model for children across America.
He’s in the business of entertainment. You seem to lack the understanding of this concept.
You managed to bring up his influence of kids in the hood, well what about the fact that he’s donated MILLIONS of his earnings to relief efforts for such things like the Hurricane Katrina disaster.
Did you know he sponsored to build a water well for children in a third-world country that had to walk miles a day just to bring home a jug of water?
He openly discusses his past, his childhood, not having a father, being in the drug game… he’s not ashamed of where he came from.
You on the other hand want to tear down a man you’ve never met in real life. Your judgement is based solely on music material and emotional conflicting idealisms you have about how people should live.
Basically, you want to tell everyone else who’s not living a life like yours that they’re not pure.
Well, get on your high horse and do something about it. Create a CD and market it so that people will listen to you tell them what the right way is.
Oh, BTW…we already have religion for that.
But, please. If you think you can somehow become the messiah of the internet and this generation of teenagers, have at it.
another stupid comment by you.
this dude has never DENIED it and that is the point.
Yes this dude did come out of the public and appointed himself as a role model.
That is what you do when you sign the dotted line.
That is what you do when you put yourself on TV.
That is what you do when you try and charge people for music.
That is what you do when you do interviews.
That is what you do when you deal with corporations and the media.
Again you try and insult me tellin me I’m a youngin, you just prove the point.
All you are trying to do is manipulate people and waste their time.
otherwise you wouldn’t be calling somebody a youngster.
I never called anyone a youngster.
I simply stated that people like you don’t know what they are talking about.
Once you use the word youngster to describe people who disagree with you, you fail son.
Of all the points I made in my post, you stuck with some petty ones.
1. That he’s never denied it.
Actually, there’s a song that was released on Rick Ross’s album Teflon Don called Free Masons. Check it out, because Jay-z himself states, “I said I was amazing / not that I’m a mason.”
So, obviously your facts are mixed up therefore this point is destroyed.
Second, no. He never openly stated that he was a role model for anyone and to follow his lead. He describes life and stories as he sees it. Much like going to a movie filled with gun violence and street glory. But I don’t see you running an anti-campaign against movies like Scarface for leading our young youth in the wrong direction.
I GUARANTEE you would find more people that claim to be influenced more to violence by that movie in comparison with Jay-Z. It’s a ridiculous point I have to bring up to destroy your argument.
Also, there are several other artists in the industry that send messages that I believe are worse. And, Jay-Z is one of the few rappers that give something back to humanity: donations, charity and relief efforts. Why are you only picking on Jay-Z? There are a plethora of other artists you could be using as better examples.
Point in hand, Jay-Z isn’t the best example for your argument.
Answering your points and that aside, you didn’t explain where he describes his satanic views and lifestyle. If I said you were retard, “know-it-all” who claims his views are more righteous than others, who lacks any intelligence, and is brainwashed by false facts floating around the internet…would my statement be correct because you didn’t deny it?
Based on your comments above, that would be true. Because I highly doubt you’ve ever met Jay-Z in person and given him the opportunity to smash those allegations.
Show some fuckin’ proof in your arguments. All your stating is your ill-researched opinion…which is still retarded.
You are nothing but a propaganda asshole straight up.
You’re post is garbage.
Scarface is from 1983!!!! That was almost 30 years ago, what a stupid excuse for a comparison.
And fuck violent movies too that shit is mad stupid I don’t support that bullshit.
And I’m not running an anti-campaign you stupid jack ass I’m typing on a blog. And I’ll go type on a movie blog and tell them what a bunch of assholes they are also.
And I’m not picking on Jayz either the dude isn’t responding, you are such a liar and a hypcorite.
picking on JayZ what a stupid line.
I’ve stated over and over again that he PICKED ON TEENAGERS AND MANIPULATED THEM THROUGH THE MEDIA!!
How fuckin stupid are you not to realize that.
You answer shit like a politician “there is a line in a song”
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT ONE LINE IN A STUPID SONG!!
The dude doesn’t put out anti-satantic messages he doesn’t deny it flat out.
One line doesn’t mean jack shit.
Man, you are one of the most ignorant and stuck up motherfuckin bullshit propagandists if I’ve ever read one.
You’re posts are mad stupid.
This guy manipulated people and took advantage of plenty of people under 21 years to get music sales and that is a FACT!!! And that is all I am trying to get to in my posts. I don’t hate the dude. But the manipulationg of the younger and middle class generation should stop it is harming alot of people.
And its people like this that cause economic equality in the world by kissing up to the big ceo’s and corporations.
This dude is a corporate dude, he’s not a people dude.
And stick the last line of your post up your ass, again you use the word kid.
You use posts and stories like this to degrade and insult regular people and regular folks and use JayZ as an excuse to do so.
JayZ aint responding to this so I don’t give a fuck what I typed in on this story.
It was for other people so other people can read the truth and realize this dude wants nothing else but money and now younger people can read my post and know the truth.
And Fuck Scarface that shit was made 30 years ago you stupid excuse motherfucker makin up nothing but lies and propaganda.
Scarface sucks too it was too violent are you happy now.
Damn you just make up lies after lies, I don’t condone any of this media hollywood music bullshit unless it has a postive message such as the ones in my posts.
Wow, some of you are just so messed up and ass backwards to things that matter in the world. Jay-Z talking for 2 minutes in which 10% of all the people who posted didn’t even mention the damn video. It’s a no fucking brainer he is successful at what he chose to do with himself. And who cares if he is successful or not. If he puts out some shit you can enjoy and get some sort of entertainment from (for better or worse) isn’t that what really matters? And who gives a shit if he decided to kick friends/business partners, ex-employees, etc, etc to the side so he could go on a mission to get more money? People just argue about some of the dumbest & irrelevant shit. Either you like the guy or not or maybe you like some shit he offers as entertainment and some of the other shit you don’t. It really don’t fucking matter. He went after something he wanted and got it. Hating him about it is insanity because it affects you in no fucking way. Your day would be the same with or without him being who he is. Take the entertainment you like, skip the shit you don’t and keep it moving. Everybody who hates on him or anyone else who has made it to the top sound like some real emotional dead beats with ZERO self esteem. Seek some counseling, cause ya’ll sick in the damn head!
is that people like this use media and corporate backing and chase stuff like record sales and tv apperances for their own personal gain and to manipulate groups of other people.
They want to get bigger and bigger for personal gain.
And these are the people who are contributing to the destruction of our societies and our communities because they just want to get bigger and bigger instead of making other people successful.
And by getting bigger and bigger they succumb to corporations and ceo’s and the media outlets that work to control the average people and large percentage of the population.
If people like this would just be happy that they acheived a certain success and just used the rest of thier lives to help out other people and make other people successful that the world would be a better place.
People like this DON’T DO THAT!!
They just want more and more money, more and more accolades and more and more apperances in the spotlight they don’t give a flying fuck about anybody but themselves.
So get it right and stop putting in plugs for cd and ticket sales.
Just be happy with what you have gotten already and use the rest of your life to help people.
Fuck the me first bullshit, there are lots of people in this world that need help.
Jay-Z has been donating to various charities and disaster relief efforts for years. Despite what you may or may not think of his lyrical prowess, he puts money back in the community, which alot of these rappers can’t claim. He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing.
Then why don’t you prove it C.
You’re just rehashing media bullshit.
How do we know either way?
How do you know what this dude supposedly did and what everybody else supposedly did.
You don’t know.
You’re just either making up stuff or rehashing media material.
Prove it.
Prove your statement is correct.
Sorry nobody can do that.
Only the exact individuals speaking for themselves and the people around them can do that.
@wolfman : After reading your comments I see that we got some brilliant and smart ppl here. I am from Africa, Nigeria to be precise. I went to college in the states and I am a big fan of Jay till date. That man has influenced me in a positive way in terms of his music, and business moves he makes in life. My question is that why do most African Americans do have a problem with their own who is making it big time in terms of $$$$. You guys should be proud you got one of ur own out there doing big things. Most of the comments i see here is that they expect jay to hand them $$$$ , which i tink is dumb. He made his, now go get yours, I mean its stupid when folks come up with all this talk abt jay been a devil worshiper, he already addressed the situation on a track wit Rick ross, “Freemason” so wat else do you guys want frm the man, to come up at your houses knock on ur doors and give u a direct answer. For those of you who don”t know this, Jay came out to Africa, and did it big for kids who had to walk far away frm home to fetch water, he ran a program to get pipe borne water for them. And secondly he don”t need to come on Tv and tell u guys where his money goes or who he helps its his business. I mean do anyone walk up to u and ask u have u helped anyone , it sounds stupid. I don”t need that man”s money, I got mine, I listen to his music, read articles abt him and all of that inspires me alot to do like him. So ppl before u come out to respond to some shit , come correct and yeah hear it frm JAY IS THE GREATEST AND STILL D GREATEST ………
this dude doesn’t represent black people, just becuase you consider him black doesn’t mean that all black people are now successful because of what he does.
race is not the issue.
so the “one of ur own” line doesn’t make any sense.
he’s no different or better or worse than any other person. people are equal.
doesn’t matter what race people consider you to be.
I already got mine, so I’m not interested in the go and get mine line.
This is about other people, its not about me and its not about this dude’s personal accolades.
And his personal accolades are great that is good for him, but he uses media to obtain alot of that and that is the point.
Plenty of people become successful in life without using media or manipulating young people. That is what these posts are about.
The devil worshpin stuff is about the hand signs and the lyrics and he has a shiload of them. I don’t know either way, but don’t pretend for you to know either.
You have as much knowledge on the subject as me.
Neither one of us knows if this dude has evil intentions or not. He is involved heavy with media so how can we really know anyway.
The Africa thing is a great thing, I’m glad he helped people out.
We just have to know if it is a marketing scheme or not. Whether it was done to divert attention from what they really want to do. We don’t know. We know it is great for the kids in Africa and that is good stuff.
However millions of people have already donated aid to Africa and helped out lots of people there and those people didn’t use the media as their outlet to obtain what they needed to obtain in order to help people.
And yes he does have to go on TV and let people know what he does with his plans for some people, becuase he used TV and media to get there in the first place.
I don’t have to answer to anyone, because I didn’t use media, TV or record or concert sales to obtain what I have. I did it the real way. So I don’t have to answer those questions and he does. Because I didn’t use media or corporations to get where I wanted to be, and he did. He needed media and corporations and I did not. So do not compare him with me. It is two different things.
Nobody comes up to me and asks me what I did with my money, because I didn’t go on TV and work with the media to get it.
He did, so naturally people will have some questions as to what is really going on.
You don’t need that mans’ money thats great but its not about money. Its about influence, manipulation, media & corporate control, that is what its about.
The money is secondary, the bigger picture is what is primary.
That’s great you read lyrics and read articles, but all that stuff is coming from the media, you are not having a one on one conversation with the dude.
I appreciate your post and I think it is a good one. It is your opinion and I have my opinion too.
Neither one of us though has direct affiliation with the major corporations, the major tv stations, the media outlets. So neither one of us knows the real story.
And that is the point of these posts.
most reasonable post iv seen on this website btw, im Nigerian too< not like it means anything but just saying. My 5 cents; it doesnt matter what or who jay-z represents or what not, he's successful, as a listener or a watcher, at least, u should be inspired to make your own success, he is moving on no matter what people are saying, the same media (which is music) through which Jay, intentionally or not, made you think he worshiped the devil, is the same media through which he refuted the claims so he does NOT need to go on TV as that cld just blow up the unnecessary or what ever his reason is. He is on this website cos he is a good (i mean very good, even You know) rapper, he is talking about his businesses and people are worried about him controlling and influencing them, look: music does not influence people as much as the movies do, trust me, unless you want to stick to that (and that Lucifer had a beautiful Voice while in Heaven) and shut every other opinion out, its your business. You are not wrong by telling your loved ones/others not to listen to Jay cos he says violent stuff, but the violence, wordplay, opinions and creativity in delivery in his songs are what make him/his music interesting. even the fact that he used 'occult insinuations in his music/video(s) doesnt even make him seem occultic to me because it has happened before, a controversy bigger than Jay's came up on Michael Jackson when thriller dropped, even in MOVIES (like Constantine) where demons and d devil himself are shown and componently displayed (even if they end up defeated/killed in the end), the occult images/performances/behaviours/practices/attitudes register MORE CLEARLY (because they are visual and audible unlike music which is only audible) in our subconscious and influence us harder. Whether u know or not, he could be occult or not, but even though it may seem safer for u to stay away, i will keep listening to any tune/music i like, watching any movie i like, no matter what the nature of the content, because i am someone who has grown up in creativity all my life (i grew up drawing and creating my own comicbooks, i make beats and rap in my spare time and i am studying architecture currently at KNUST, Ghana and I'm in my 3rd year, doesn't really matter but just saying, again, to prove a point) and i have also learned to look out for creative works and products of the out-of-the-box thinking which i have found in Jay-Z, his music and his endeavours so listening to/watching him is rather more helpful to me than harmful.
Then again its still just an opinion thing except for how much positive you can make out of every happening or character surrounding you in the blue marble called Earth. i love it when dudes drop the ignorance and get logical if not a little religious.
Thanks Again
Jeffrey
However the media that you say put out the videos of Jayz devil worshipping is NOT the same media that puts out his songs and his advertising and is not the same media in which he supposedly refuted the claims.
The videos that claim this dude is devil worshipping is media put out for the people to show the people that look some of these dudes on TV are evil scumbags that use manipulation to brainwash teenagers and take your money, because that is all they care about money.
The media that Jayz works with is the corportae media that want to take money from the average public.
tHOSE PIPES COST ROUGHLY 4000 DOLLAS TO PUT IN THE GROUND. THEN HE MAKES A BIG SCENE BY PUTTING THE SHIT ON MTV SO THE WHOLE WORLD COULD BE ON HIS DICK AND GIVE HIM A MAMMOTH PAT ON THE BACK. LIKE NAS SAID…..JAY-Z LOVES ATTENTION! ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, THE ONLY REWARD HE WILL RECEIVE IS A PRAISE FROM YOU AND THE OTHER PPL IN THE WORLD THAT DON’T REALIZE THAT JAY-Z HAS A LOT OF GREED INSIDE HIS HEART. QOUTE: “APARTMENT AT THE TRUMP, ONLY SLEPT IN IT ONCE”
AND “EVEN IF I FELL, I’D LAND ON A BUNCH OF MONEY”
SEE! HE’S AN ARROGANT DUDE.
LOOK HOW HE DID DAM, JAZ-O, AND DUDES HE GREW UP WIT. HE’S NOT LOYAL, BRA!
Real Talk Playboy 2045
success in what greed, better to be working toward educating the youth and getting the homeless of the street. just reminding you that your selfish
co-sign 100%
@ alijah…just curious…what are you doing to get the homeless off the street and educate the youth? Jigga’s actually been running youth programs since at least ’97…check the liner notes…not to mention the initiatives he spearheaded in Africa for getting clean water to the poorest of the poor…and that’s just the shit that we know about…which, by the way, we don’t hear him rapping about those things because rapping about them would make them seem less important–a classy move on his part.
So anyway, back to my point. Post here, specifically, any and all of the initiatives you are a part of that involve getting the homeless off the street and protecting at-risk youth, and I’ll believe every word you say.
Yeah but you believe every word the media says and that is your problem.
Great we know jigga did his thing there in Africa because we saw it on TV.
How about the negative image he portryas to a large portion of american youth.
How about all the negative stuff he has created in the culture of music, do you count that too? Or pretend that everybody in the media is only positive?
i swear i pulled this vid up cuz i was waitin for gundam vid to load up. that’s a 20 min vid this is a two min vid and i know the reason too. so dx, i see you. yall can suck my dick.
i’m sorry that didn’t make any sense. this shit took like 15 mins to load up, a 2 min vid!
get off the dial up then
Real Talk. Do you Hov. These dudes in the street want handouts. They dont have no idea how much of your money has gone to the underprivliged. You cant save everybody.
jay you my man (no homo), but could you get that coke out ya nose you talking funny son. Fuck you talking about kings get they head cut off, naw son kings wear crowns and defend they thrown, meaning get back to the lab and get back on that shit.
Nas is the KING
Jay is the queen
faggot hes just copying NAS
NAS BEST RAPPER ALIVE
This is legit….Jay really has a problem with how folks attack him for being successful. I hear him mention this same topic alot and makes you wonder if that shit trully bothers him. Its intriguing cuz in the end this a nigga who came from the hood and now is filthy rich. Niggas can hate, but obiviously he had some sort of luck and plan we dont have. I do envy that, not hate.
If this dude has a problem with how folks “attack” him or whatever that word is supposed to mean that was his choice because he put himself in the public eye. Nobody asked him to go on TV, or radio. It was his own personal choice, and that is what goes along with that decision, a possible backlash because you are using media to influence people you don’t personally know and you’re not personally responding to them.
Obviously coming from the hood to being rich is a great success story, but you have to dig deeper and find out how they exactly got there.
Did they get there by helping people?
Or by taking advantage of people?
The rags to riches story has happened before and plenty of people have come from the “hood” to be “rich” through economics and through business and NOT necessarily through the media.
When you wrote “niggas can hate” it doesn’t really say anything because you don’t know what “hate” really means.
If I call this dude an asshole on a computer that he does not respond to am I “hating” on this dude or producing a positive experience for the kind of people that this guy took advantage of?
You can’t tell me either way because this is the internet era.
So you may call a person “hating” when what they are doing is showing support for the type of people that this dude “hated” on to get where they are at.
The word hate is such an overused and mass produced word that it really doesn’t have any meaning anymore. Because when the normal average person explains this stuff to people, the media and these brainwashers say only one thing and they say you “hatin”
The word hate is now an excuse word and means close to nothing.
And I envy no person because there is no way I’m going to be this dude anyway. So why would I waste time denegrating myself?
So the jealousy thing is fake also. If you jealous of someone you just wasting your time and being self destructive to yourself and the people around you.
This dude has no luck or a plan than anybody else has.
People are equal.
This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and almost everything he has ever written or said is pure bullshit.
For example in this interview dude is talkin about success. Whether you are successful or not depends on how you impact people overall.
You can have a normal job raise a few kids and have a happy wife or husband and be successful yet an idiot like this wouldn’t consider you successful because you’re not on TV or making millions or whatever dollars.
On the other hand you can do what this jerk did get involved with media and make albums and because you sold x amount of copies and won x amount of media awards and was on TV x amount of times you are automatically supposed to be considered successful.
This dude is a total hypocrite.
there are all these videos out there talkin how he devil worshipin throwin up hand signs and all that pyramid bullshit yet he don’t address any of it. he never says what his intentions are for other people he only talks about himself and tells stories.
OK so you made it out of marcy projects and onto forbes list. However what you did to get to that point defines your success. If you stepped over a bunch of people to get there, got selfish to the degree that you were only caring about yourself, you are causing a negative affect on other people and when you put yourself out there in media that is what you do. THAT is how most of these people got there. They didn’t get there by helping people, they got their by manipulating media. That is when you start affecting people you don’t know personally. If you live a normal job and take care of your family that is what success is about because the only people who are truly impacted by you are the people you personally live your life with.
Does this dude have a positive or negative affect on people overall?
Nobody can really tell because nobody knows what the future holds.
What we do know is that corporations, media, TV, etc. has a NEGATIVE affect on people because the public as a whole and as a group is not doing well.
Unemployment is up, economy is shaky, morale is low, and support and opinion about the american public from overseas is dwindiling. And what is the major issue in all of this?
Corporations, TV & media taking advantage of the average person.
That is what this dude is DOING!!
He is CONTRIBUTING to that!!
He is using media to gain advantages for himself and he’s not giving a fuck on how its impacting other people.
He’s doing the same thing all these greedy ceo’s, wall street, bankers etc. are doing. Defining their success by how much money they make. He’s not going against the media, journalists and the supposed big names who call the shots, he’s going with them so how the fuck is he helping people?
When you bought this dude’s CD, you paid $10. That is $10 taken from an average family and given to a millionaire. THE MONEY AIN’T COMING BACK!! The person who paid $10 didn’t resell it for $20, they didn’t use it for food, clothes, shelter or anything important. They simply threw $10 away on media brainwashing. And a large portion of those people were teenagers who weren’t in a a position to know exactly what was best for them and what their purchase was about. This dude is a horrible role model with the bullshit he talks about.
Were the CEO’s of Tyco, Enron etc successful? Individually they pulled in millions to billions so if only money defines success yes they were successful. BUT THEY WERE CORRUPT AND FUCKED OVER MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!! They got the money from other people’s pockets. That’s how they got rich, by taking from others. That is what this dude does. He got rich by taking other people’s income, and a good portion of it came from average teenagers.
Yo, this dude is a fraud.
Kick the satan bullshit to the curb and next time you want to sell something to arrive at a profit, sell something legit that people need and make it cheaper and more available to them if you’re such a hero.
This dude is not going against media and for the people, he is going for media and against the people.
Because the message in this dude’s music is fuckin garbage.
I agree success is how you see it through your own eyes. And to some people Jayz is successful in their eyes. Everyone views the world differently and have different perspective. Many people waste money on silly stuff like drugs and unhealthy foods. This world is not perfect and nobody is perfect. Jay-z is a man who struggles like any other man in the world. So what can you do to help jay-z become better in life? The answer is “Nothing” just live your life and do what you do. To me its like you want someone to stay at the bottom. Do you sale and make money or do you stay broke? The whole devil worship is straight BS. Unless you see Jay-z worshipping the devil with your own eyes don’t speak what you don’t know. If you don’t like what Jay is doing and know you can do better please do so and put your plan into action. Put some actions in your words and show everyone what you mean. Cause we can seat and talk all day but nothing matter unless you do something. Make music that isn’t trash. Do something make music for the people if you know what they want. People listen to someone who is doing something not someone who does nothing.
Now hold up, wait a second.
Why would I want to spend my time helping out this dude jigga? or is it even possible to do so?
Shouldn’t I be more concerned with those who haven’t reached economic success?
I personally don’t want anyone to stay at the bottom who is a normal person so I don’t know who that line applies to.
@mike B
You’re devil worship line is straight BS. not this dudes. because there is enough of it out there that if jigga doesn’t personally address the issue and flat out deny it then how can they be trusted?
You wrote unless you see jigga worshipin the devil, well how would I, or would anyone else see that? That is something that supposedly happens behind closed doors. If we don’t see the dude flat out deny it and show in their actions and words that they are not worshipin the devil, we won’t know either way if it is BS or not BS.
And music is not the only way to do something. Anybody can make music, it is the venue of whether or not it will be able to be heard that is the issue.
You can facebook it, myspace it, use your home audio equipment or whatever you want, but if the venue isn’t proper and you don’t have mass media on your side, you may be the one that gets “attacked” and “hated” on by those who have infiltrated mass media because it isn’t the image that they may want to promote.
And what is the image that mass media in the music industry wants to promote?
Just look at the names selling the most and the image they represent and tell me what exactly that image is.
Music is not an equal or fair venue because it involves media, so until that happens it will not be the deciding factor.
And Yes I don’t like what jigga is doing.
and I know I can do better.
and I have already done so and put my plan into action.
And I don’t have mass media or corporate backing so how will I know if my image is going to be distorted or not?
How do I know that mass media or corporate backing will not try and change or distort my plan because as of now I don’t have any contact with them.
That is the part people need to understand.
And by the way, everybody does something.
Whether you are going to find out exactly what they are doing, that’s another story.
That’s the story being manipulated by media.
ITS EASY TO BREAK A PERSON DOWN, WHILE YOU SIT IN POSITION…
who cares bro?
You typed in 1 line so how are you explaining anything.
Why don’t you back up your claim with information and facts.
I couldn’t read your whole statement, because it was fuming with jealously and hatred.
If the saying, “success breads envy” is true. Your post validates its truth.
Also, think about this. You’re wasting your time speaking about the negative impact of someone else and his actions, while giving me very little reason to think you contribute anything to this world yourself.
Jay-Z > You.
Because he would never waste his time speaking about your life.
OMG!!!
You’re post is so fucking stupid.
Its not filled with jealousy or hatred at all I am STICKING UP FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THIS WORLD!!!
How many fucking times do I have to post that?
Me>Jayz
I dont’ give a fuck about this dude, but I DONT’ MANIPULATE TEENAGERS AND WASTE THIER TIME LIKE THIS DUDE DOES!!
This dude is wasting his time trying to influence other people’s lives who are YOUNGER THAN HIM!!!
@wolfman you made the stupidest and most unintelligent post of all-time.
Holy shit that was some dumb stuff I just read from you.
I was never big on Jay, still ain’t. Never liked his style.
If you got 150 mil in the bank or whatever number they say you got, that money came out of other people’s pockets. It didn’t grow on a tree and it wasn’t taken from other greedy ceo’s, bankers etc. It came almost entirely FROM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!
And if the dude isn’t giving it back, he’s not successful because he’s negatively impacted people overall. If he takes that 150 mil and just uses it to further advance his own career and agenda he’s an asshole. Because its not a normal salary. 150 mil is the salary of 200-500 people and that could mean 200-500 famalies. People are equal. Nobody is 200-500 times better than anybody. This dude aquired his wealth by taking in income from average people at a much higher rate than what the normal person does.
That is what concert tickets, cd’s, music merchandise is, it comes from normal people who make average salaries and are not famous or in the media spotlight. What can they do with a ticket or cd? NOTHING!!! Its a waste of money, some people may not consider it a waste and call it entertainment. Now tell me WHAT IS SO ENTERTAINING ABOUT 9.6% UNEMPLOYMENT, LOW PUBLIC MORALE, KIDS DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL, FEW JOBS, NO MEDIA OUTLET TO VOICE THEIR OPINOIN, AND LOW OPINION ABOUT THE GOVERNMENTS AND POWERS IN CHARGE? Is entertainment more important than that? No it is not.
If this dude never existed does that 150 mil go back to the american public?
How do we know it doesn’t?
And why do you think the public is not doing well and in the position they are in in the first place?
Because of dudes like this, who target people mostly under 21 years old that do not yet have the wisdom to understand exactly what is in their best interests because they aren’t old enough to have figured it out yet. And they have been influenced more by media, than the teachers, parents and mentors around them.
They don’t want to be their teacher, parent, mentor etc, because they don’t see those people on TV. They want to be this dude, because he’s on TV, but they aren’t old enough to truly understand what goes along with all of that, and how complex the bigger picture really is.
So here comes this dude tellin phony stories with a fake message. This dude be comin with your words and shit, here you ain’t said one word, and here they come with the word tryin to flip it and bounce it on some bullshit, not sounding right first of all……You wanna play that role son play it.
This nigga ain’t gonna sound like me, on no album.
You know what…this sounds intelligent and it is well-written…but this is really just you hating on Jigga’s wealth.
Logan how do you know his hating cause his wealthy. That is the only typical response a typical brainwashed individual would give.
sorry bro the hating line is a copout and an excuse.
and again it is your opinion.
I write a long enough post, you think you debunk it in what 25 words?
Sorry it doesn’t work that way.
What I posted is 100% correct.
I’m sorry dude but everything you just typed is total BS. Jay-Z has nothing to do with the economy. People spend their money where they please. And that’s proof with people buying homes they could not afford. Major corporations sending countless manufacturing jobs over seas to pay lower wages and not have to deal with unions. Jay-Z provides a service, it’s up to the individual to make the decision as to whether or not to purchase those services. If kids want to be like him, why not? He has a great work ethic, smart, and he’s successful. They don’t have to be rappers to utilize those characteristics. And do your research, he does give back on a regular bases. He has charity organizations, scholarship programs and he’s donated millions. My only suggestion is this, do the research before you start throwing out rhetoric that is not substantiated. Later.
You are 100% incorrect.
Of course jigga has something to do with the economy.
He influences the lives of many teenagers on a daily basis.
He influences how they act and what they do.
Because that is what teenagers do. They look up to the people on TV and do not have the same respect for their teachers, parents or mentors.
jigga does not provide a service. Music is a trick and it is brainwashing only. No teenager should be paying for music.
It is up to the individual to make the purchase, but most young people don’t know what they are doing and many later regret what they did as teenagers.
Nobody knows what he gives back on a regular basis. It is just more lies and propaganda sent out by the media. They manipulate what is actually being done.
I did the research, and you completely changed the subject and talked about all people like they are adults, and all people in this economy are NOT adults, so your entire post is BS.
What I posted is 100% the truth.
“if kids want to be like him, why not”
That is what you wrote and it is pure garbage.
I’ll tell you why kids wouldn’t want to be like him.
Because he doesn’t address any of the videos and stuff in his lyrics that makes him appear to be worshipin the devil and evil. He never flat out denies it.
He continues to want to trick people into “purchasing” his music, so nobody knows the real story.
He is a terrible role model for young people and the information and image he is portraying to them is not helping them out. It is only making things more complicated for them.
So no, kids should not want to be him.
Through your words, you’ve managed to turn Jay-Z into some kind of money hungry thief; who is out to steal the public’s money and turn people against themselves.
It is each and every person’s own responsibility to spend their wealth how they choose. If someone was influenced by Jay-Z and his music to purchase a concert ticket or his CD, it was their decision to do so.
You make it sound like if this $150 million were in the public hands, these kids would spending it on colored pencils and books for school. You’re neglecting the nature behind addictive impulses and gambling that comes natural to people.
If Jay-Z wasn’t here, the probability that this money would be spent in the same genre of entertainment is greater than 50%.
Please, use responsibility when making such blanket statements about a person who decided to use his intellect to create a life and stories for entertainment.
I can tell you I’ll always admire Jay-Z more than anyone who lashes against him. Because the man put fear of what people think of him aside and chose to be a real person. He doesn’t let petty thoughts derail his goals.
No. you are incorrect and again changed the subject.
that “probability that this money would be spent in the same genre of entertainment is greater than 50%” is THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT LINE I’VE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!!!
OMG WHAT A MEDIA COPOUT!!
I haven’t turned this dude into anything I’m just typing on a blog. wtf is wrong with some of you dudes.
Kids are influenced by this dude
Kids who don’t know what they are doing because they are too young to figure out media’s corrupt ways!!
Don’t you understand that?
How many fuckin times do I have to post that.
He chose to be a real person?????
He chose to be a FAKE person by talking about bullshit in his rhymes, with the bullshit satanic vidoes and he’s just WASTING TEENAGERS TIME.
Yo you people are either mad stupid, or part of this dude’s marketing team.
That was your response? If you plan to take this “blogging” thing seriously, you should consider waiting until your emotions have simmered down before typing a reply.
Telling others they’re “incorrect” or the “biggest bullshit line” or “stupid” doesn’t make your argument stronger. It’s the complete opposite. You look weaker, because you’re not stating any facts.
Second, no one appointed you king of the children in this world. Respectfully, you know no more about what’s better for the next man than you do for yourself.
It’s irritating to see how much effort some people put into trying to drag down someone’s reputation. Jay-Z never came out into the public and appointed himself the role model for children across America.
He’s in the business of entertainment. You seem to lack the understanding of this concept.
You managed to bring up his influence of kids in the hood, well what about the fact that he’s donated MILLIONS of his earnings to relief efforts for such things like the Hurricane Katrina disaster.
Did you know he sponsored to build a water well for children in a third-world country that had to walk miles a day just to bring home a jug of water?
He openly discusses his past, his childhood, not having a father, being in the drug game… he’s not ashamed of where he came from.
You on the other hand want to tear down a man you’ve never met in real life. Your judgement is based solely on music material and emotional conflicting idealisms you have about how people should live.
Basically, you want to tell everyone else who’s not living a life like yours that they’re not pure.
Well, get on your high horse and do something about it. Create a CD and market it so that people will listen to you tell them what the right way is.
Oh, BTW…we already have religion for that.
But, please. If you think you can somehow become the messiah of the internet and this generation of teenagers, have at it.
And LOL @ satanic videos. What satanic videos did Jay-Z produce or feature in?
This is the type of brainwashed shit that comes out of young kid’s mouths who are trying to prove a point with false information.
He has never claimed illuminatti. Get that out of your silly head.
You sound like my 17 year cousin, youngin.
another stupid comment by you.
this dude has never DENIED it and that is the point.
Yes this dude did come out of the public and appointed himself as a role model.
That is what you do when you sign the dotted line.
That is what you do when you put yourself on TV.
That is what you do when you try and charge people for music.
That is what you do when you do interviews.
That is what you do when you deal with corporations and the media.
Again you try and insult me tellin me I’m a youngin, you just prove the point.
All you are trying to do is manipulate people and waste their time.
otherwise you wouldn’t be calling somebody a youngster.
I never called anyone a youngster.
I simply stated that people like you don’t know what they are talking about.
Once you use the word youngster to describe people who disagree with you, you fail son.
end of story.
Of all the points I made in my post, you stuck with some petty ones.
1. That he’s never denied it.
Actually, there’s a song that was released on Rick Ross’s album Teflon Don called Free Masons. Check it out, because Jay-z himself states, “I said I was amazing / not that I’m a mason.”
So, obviously your facts are mixed up therefore this point is destroyed.
Second, no. He never openly stated that he was a role model for anyone and to follow his lead. He describes life and stories as he sees it. Much like going to a movie filled with gun violence and street glory. But I don’t see you running an anti-campaign against movies like Scarface for leading our young youth in the wrong direction.
I GUARANTEE you would find more people that claim to be influenced more to violence by that movie in comparison with Jay-Z. It’s a ridiculous point I have to bring up to destroy your argument.
Also, there are several other artists in the industry that send messages that I believe are worse. And, Jay-Z is one of the few rappers that give something back to humanity: donations, charity and relief efforts. Why are you only picking on Jay-Z? There are a plethora of other artists you could be using as better examples.
Point in hand, Jay-Z isn’t the best example for your argument.
Answering your points and that aside, you didn’t explain where he describes his satanic views and lifestyle. If I said you were retard, “know-it-all” who claims his views are more righteous than others, who lacks any intelligence, and is brainwashed by false facts floating around the internet…would my statement be correct because you didn’t deny it?
Based on your comments above, that would be true. Because I highly doubt you’ve ever met Jay-Z in person and given him the opportunity to smash those allegations.
Show some fuckin’ proof in your arguments. All your stating is your ill-researched opinion…which is still retarded.
P.S. You’ve spent more time in your posts calling people stupid, and saying they’re wrong than actually proving any kind of point.
You’ve got a lot to learn about debates, kid.
You are nothing but a propaganda asshole straight up.
You’re post is garbage.
Scarface is from 1983!!!! That was almost 30 years ago, what a stupid excuse for a comparison.
And fuck violent movies too that shit is mad stupid I don’t support that bullshit.
And I’m not running an anti-campaign you stupid jack ass I’m typing on a blog. And I’ll go type on a movie blog and tell them what a bunch of assholes they are also.
And I’m not picking on Jayz either the dude isn’t responding, you are such a liar and a hypcorite.
picking on JayZ what a stupid line.
I’ve stated over and over again that he PICKED ON TEENAGERS AND MANIPULATED THEM THROUGH THE MEDIA!!
How fuckin stupid are you not to realize that.
You answer shit like a politician “there is a line in a song”
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT ONE LINE IN A STUPID SONG!!
The dude doesn’t put out anti-satantic messages he doesn’t deny it flat out.
One line doesn’t mean jack shit.
Man, you are one of the most ignorant and stuck up motherfuckin bullshit propagandists if I’ve ever read one.
You’re posts are mad stupid.
This guy manipulated people and took advantage of plenty of people under 21 years to get music sales and that is a FACT!!! And that is all I am trying to get to in my posts. I don’t hate the dude. But the manipulationg of the younger and middle class generation should stop it is harming alot of people.
And its people like this that cause economic equality in the world by kissing up to the big ceo’s and corporations.
This dude is a corporate dude, he’s not a people dude.
And stick the last line of your post up your ass, again you use the word kid.
You use posts and stories like this to degrade and insult regular people and regular folks and use JayZ as an excuse to do so.
JayZ aint responding to this so I don’t give a fuck what I typed in on this story.
It was for other people so other people can read the truth and realize this dude wants nothing else but money and now younger people can read my post and know the truth.
And Fuck Scarface that shit was made 30 years ago you stupid excuse motherfucker makin up nothing but lies and propaganda.
Scarface sucks too it was too violent are you happy now.
Damn you just make up lies after lies, I don’t condone any of this media hollywood music bullshit unless it has a postive message such as the ones in my posts.
Shut the fuck up
You can’t even spell, but for some reason you’re going onto a fucking hip hop site in a sad attempt to sound intellectual
150 mil bla fucking bla
It’s obvious you don’t know shit about finances, and know even less about debating or making yourself sound like anything other than what you are
A hating, jealous, pathetic scab
Go suck a dick…and then front like you didn’t like it
no idea who you are talking about becuase your post makes no sense.
This motherfucker is OLD. And let’s keep it real…It’s not news, it’s an ad. A creative ad but an ad nonetheless.
None of you, who disagreed with my post, responded to any of the issues at hand.
You just changed the topic and talked about stuff that is totally irrelavent.
Everything I posted is 100% the truth and the realness.
Humpty Dump
Yo honestly shut the fuck up you be postin some mad stupid shit.
jay has some tight nerd glasses lol
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Wow, some of you are just so messed up and ass backwards to things that matter in the world. Jay-Z talking for 2 minutes in which 10% of all the people who posted didn’t even mention the damn video. It’s a no fucking brainer he is successful at what he chose to do with himself. And who cares if he is successful or not. If he puts out some shit you can enjoy and get some sort of entertainment from (for better or worse) isn’t that what really matters? And who gives a shit if he decided to kick friends/business partners, ex-employees, etc, etc to the side so he could go on a mission to get more money? People just argue about some of the dumbest & irrelevant shit. Either you like the guy or not or maybe you like some shit he offers as entertainment and some of the other shit you don’t. It really don’t fucking matter. He went after something he wanted and got it. Hating him about it is insanity because it affects you in no fucking way. Your day would be the same with or without him being who he is. Take the entertainment you like, skip the shit you don’t and keep it moving. Everybody who hates on him or anyone else who has made it to the top sound like some real emotional dead beats with ZERO self esteem. Seek some counseling, cause ya’ll sick in the damn head!
is that people like this use media and corporate backing and chase stuff like record sales and tv apperances for their own personal gain and to manipulate groups of other people.
They want to get bigger and bigger for personal gain.
And these are the people who are contributing to the destruction of our societies and our communities because they just want to get bigger and bigger instead of making other people successful.
And by getting bigger and bigger they succumb to corporations and ceo’s and the media outlets that work to control the average people and large percentage of the population.
If people like this would just be happy that they acheived a certain success and just used the rest of thier lives to help out other people and make other people successful that the world would be a better place.
People like this DON’T DO THAT!!
They just want more and more money, more and more accolades and more and more apperances in the spotlight they don’t give a flying fuck about anybody but themselves.
So get it right and stop putting in plugs for cd and ticket sales.
Just be happy with what you have gotten already and use the rest of your life to help people.
Fuck the me first bullshit, there are lots of people in this world that need help.
Jay-Z has been donating to various charities and disaster relief efforts for years. Despite what you may or may not think of his lyrical prowess, he puts money back in the community, which alot of these rappers can’t claim. He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing.
Then why don’t you prove it C.
You’re just rehashing media bullshit.
How do we know either way?
How do you know what this dude supposedly did and what everybody else supposedly did.
You don’t know.
You’re just either making up stuff or rehashing media material.
Prove it.
Prove your statement is correct.
Sorry nobody can do that.
Only the exact individuals speaking for themselves and the people around them can do that.
@wolfman : After reading your comments I see that we got some brilliant and smart ppl here. I am from Africa, Nigeria to be precise. I went to college in the states and I am a big fan of Jay till date. That man has influenced me in a positive way in terms of his music, and business moves he makes in life. My question is that why do most African Americans do have a problem with their own who is making it big time in terms of $$$$. You guys should be proud you got one of ur own out there doing big things. Most of the comments i see here is that they expect jay to hand them $$$$ , which i tink is dumb. He made his, now go get yours, I mean its stupid when folks come up with all this talk abt jay been a devil worshiper, he already addressed the situation on a track wit Rick ross, “Freemason” so wat else do you guys want frm the man, to come up at your houses knock on ur doors and give u a direct answer. For those of you who don”t know this, Jay came out to Africa, and did it big for kids who had to walk far away frm home to fetch water, he ran a program to get pipe borne water for them. And secondly he don”t need to come on Tv and tell u guys where his money goes or who he helps its his business. I mean do anyone walk up to u and ask u have u helped anyone , it sounds stupid. I don”t need that man”s money, I got mine, I listen to his music, read articles abt him and all of that inspires me alot to do like him. So ppl before u come out to respond to some shit , come correct and yeah hear it frm JAY IS THE GREATEST AND STILL D GREATEST ………
that’s a good post, but it is your opinion.
this dude doesn’t represent black people, just becuase you consider him black doesn’t mean that all black people are now successful because of what he does.
race is not the issue.
so the “one of ur own” line doesn’t make any sense.
he’s no different or better or worse than any other person. people are equal.
doesn’t matter what race people consider you to be.
I already got mine, so I’m not interested in the go and get mine line.
This is about other people, its not about me and its not about this dude’s personal accolades.
And his personal accolades are great that is good for him, but he uses media to obtain alot of that and that is the point.
Plenty of people become successful in life without using media or manipulating young people. That is what these posts are about.
The devil worshpin stuff is about the hand signs and the lyrics and he has a shiload of them. I don’t know either way, but don’t pretend for you to know either.
You have as much knowledge on the subject as me.
Neither one of us knows if this dude has evil intentions or not. He is involved heavy with media so how can we really know anyway.
The Africa thing is a great thing, I’m glad he helped people out.
We just have to know if it is a marketing scheme or not. Whether it was done to divert attention from what they really want to do. We don’t know. We know it is great for the kids in Africa and that is good stuff.
However millions of people have already donated aid to Africa and helped out lots of people there and those people didn’t use the media as their outlet to obtain what they needed to obtain in order to help people.
And yes he does have to go on TV and let people know what he does with his plans for some people, becuase he used TV and media to get there in the first place.
I don’t have to answer to anyone, because I didn’t use media, TV or record or concert sales to obtain what I have. I did it the real way. So I don’t have to answer those questions and he does. Because I didn’t use media or corporations to get where I wanted to be, and he did. He needed media and corporations and I did not. So do not compare him with me. It is two different things.
Nobody comes up to me and asks me what I did with my money, because I didn’t go on TV and work with the media to get it.
He did, so naturally people will have some questions as to what is really going on.
You don’t need that mans’ money thats great but its not about money. Its about influence, manipulation, media & corporate control, that is what its about.
The money is secondary, the bigger picture is what is primary.
That’s great you read lyrics and read articles, but all that stuff is coming from the media, you are not having a one on one conversation with the dude.
I appreciate your post and I think it is a good one. It is your opinion and I have my opinion too.
Neither one of us though has direct affiliation with the major corporations, the major tv stations, the media outlets. So neither one of us knows the real story.
And that is the point of these posts.
most reasonable post iv seen on this website btw, im Nigerian too< not like it means anything but just saying. My 5 cents; it doesnt matter what or who jay-z represents or what not, he's successful, as a listener or a watcher, at least, u should be inspired to make your own success, he is moving on no matter what people are saying, the same media (which is music) through which Jay, intentionally or not, made you think he worshiped the devil, is the same media through which he refuted the claims so he does NOT need to go on TV as that cld just blow up the unnecessary or what ever his reason is. He is on this website cos he is a good (i mean very good, even You know) rapper, he is talking about his businesses and people are worried about him controlling and influencing them, look: music does not influence people as much as the movies do, trust me, unless you want to stick to that (and that Lucifer had a beautiful Voice while in Heaven) and shut every other opinion out, its your business. You are not wrong by telling your loved ones/others not to listen to Jay cos he says violent stuff, but the violence, wordplay, opinions and creativity in delivery in his songs are what make him/his music interesting. even the fact that he used 'occult insinuations in his music/video(s) doesnt even make him seem occultic to me because it has happened before, a controversy bigger than Jay's came up on Michael Jackson when thriller dropped, even in MOVIES (like Constantine) where demons and d devil himself are shown and componently displayed (even if they end up defeated/killed in the end), the occult images/performances/behaviours/practices/attitudes register MORE CLEARLY (because they are visual and audible unlike music which is only audible) in our subconscious and influence us harder. Whether u know or not, he could be occult or not, but even though it may seem safer for u to stay away, i will keep listening to any tune/music i like, watching any movie i like, no matter what the nature of the content, because i am someone who has grown up in creativity all my life (i grew up drawing and creating my own comicbooks, i make beats and rap in my spare time and i am studying architecture currently at KNUST, Ghana and I'm in my 3rd year, doesn't really matter but just saying, again, to prove a point) and i have also learned to look out for creative works and products of the out-of-the-box thinking which i have found in Jay-Z, his music and his endeavours so listening to/watching him is rather more helpful to me than harmful. Then again its still just an opinion thing except for how much positive you can make out of every happening or character surrounding you in the blue marble called Earth. i love it when dudes drop the ignorance and get logical if not a little religious. Thanks Again Jeffrey
that is a good post I hear what you are saying.
However the media that you say put out the videos of Jayz devil worshipping is NOT the same media that puts out his songs and his advertising and is not the same media in which he supposedly refuted the claims.
The videos that claim this dude is devil worshipping is media put out for the people to show the people that look some of these dudes on TV are evil scumbags that use manipulation to brainwash teenagers and take your money, because that is all they care about money.
The media that Jayz works with is the corportae media that want to take money from the average public.
So it is two completely different forms of media.
tHOSE PIPES COST ROUGHLY 4000 DOLLAS TO PUT IN THE GROUND. THEN HE MAKES A BIG SCENE BY PUTTING THE SHIT ON MTV SO THE WHOLE WORLD COULD BE ON HIS DICK AND GIVE HIM A MAMMOTH PAT ON THE BACK. LIKE NAS SAID…..JAY-Z LOVES ATTENTION! ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, THE ONLY REWARD HE WILL RECEIVE IS A PRAISE FROM YOU AND THE OTHER PPL IN THE WORLD THAT DON’T REALIZE THAT JAY-Z HAS A LOT OF GREED INSIDE HIS HEART. QOUTE: “APARTMENT AT THE TRUMP, ONLY SLEPT IN IT ONCE”
AND “EVEN IF I FELL, I’D LAND ON A BUNCH OF MONEY”
SEE! HE’S AN ARROGANT DUDE.
LOOK HOW HE DID DAM, JAZ-O, AND DUDES HE GREW UP WIT. HE’S NOT LOYAL, BRA!
Im Just Wondering, But When Is This Nigga Gonna “ACTUALLY” Retire? Dam Bruh